Ghosting - Moto X Q&A

Is it possible to fix ghosting? I have a slight ghosting where the status bar and navigation bar are, and is also visible with some tinted images, like full grey or red..

This is just how AMOLED screens work. They get burn in more easily, especially where the on screen navigation and status icons are. All Moto X have this, usually after only a month or two because they are on whenever the screen is on.

And it's not fixable?

I don't believe so. There are apps that can help "fix" screen burn, but I don't know that I'd really buy into it.
It is normal with AMOLED screens and I don't know that I would consider it a defect, as it is expected behavior with this technology.

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And it's not fixable?
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try this. i use it on my plasma when, say, netflix logo stays on too long. i've never used it on amoled but it can't hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39HUG7QrQi8

I don't think it is fixable. I had it on my gnex and ran those "screen fixing" apps every night while I slept for a week with no improvement. When I got my moto x I made sure you hide the nav bar and use pie in an effort to prevent it. I use full screen mode in the browser as well for the same reason as most of my screen time is with the browser.

The only way to "fix it" is this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bengigi.screen.diagnostic&hl=en though it basically just evens out the burn in.

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Is your Super AMOLED screen still working properly ?

hi guys,
Is your Super AMOLED screen still working properly ?
how long did you own your phone ?
Have my phone for 8 or 9 months, still going strong, nothing funny and no burn-in.
I use the screen mostly at low brightness.
I have the idea that JVH/2.3.3 has lower brightness, or it is just the brighter days in summer. But it is not burn in as there is no pattern.
Works perfect here.. No issue at all after 8 months. ther eis 24 months warranty so.. got some time for it to get crap and turn it in if it does. =)
All good here. 11 months, no burn in, no colour problems. Generally use lowest brightness settings. Perhaps flashing roms/themes on a weeklyish basis, helps prevent burn in.
Of course, why do you ask?
As far as burn-in (burn-out) if I display a solid blue screen I can see where the AM/PM used to be (before I turned the clock to 24hr) and some small 'smudges' where the other status icons are. Not a big deal.
Different themes would probably help, especially if there was less blue in the status icons (green or orange instead of white) since it burns out faster.
Time burnt in .....bought it like that
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status bar and time burnt in when displaying on white screen.. bought used though.. also keyboard is shown very lightly.. but doesnt bother me much though..
I've had mine for 10 months and so far no burn in.
I'm interested to know though, what causes the burn in's?
I've had mine for about 10 months, medium brightness most of times, sometimes max brightness.
Clock is a little burned in screen and sometimes I can see the swype keyboard keys on very white and bright backgrounds.
about ±7 months already...still nothing weird ... still no screen burn in detected.. and nothing unusual...
when stay in house/office = lowest brightness... when outside/driving = maximum brightness..
I don't use brightness. Screen is practically brand new. Screen protector since day 1
Fasty Captivate
I think the app, NoLED causes burn ins.
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Used for about an year now. Mainly auto-brightness all the time. Mostly portrait mode. With white display occasionally I may see taskbar contour on the top. Not seen when watching videos in landscape mode.5 star for this display after heavy use.
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The time is burning in on mine, visible barely only with blue screen. 5 months.
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I think the app, NoLED causes burn ins.
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Unlikely. The notifications appear all over the place and move frequently specifically to prevent burnin
13 months
auto- brightness
looks completely fine to me
Having my SGS for 7 months now,no reported burn in or screen problems.! The phone is a beast.
1 year now,no problems at all
How long do you thing that Amoled screen will last ?
i have mine just over a year now and like others I have burn-in where the notification bar is but nothing else....
Does anybody know if the warranty would cover the burn-in??
13 months, still working great.

Has anybody seen light bleed like this?

Looks as if I'm going to have to join the return game on this device. I've been a very happy TF700 owner on CROMi-X for the last year and still had that WOW effect when I started playing with this tablet.
Until it got dark.... I mean - the attached picture is with the tablet in sleep mode!!!!! That's gotta suck the battery dry like nothing.....
Opened a ticket with Asus for what it's worth...
I'm going to update to 4.3 manually, but don't expect that'll do much.
Does anybody have something similar?
Edit: After about an hour of reading the screen dimmed and had dark shadows on both sides. I flashed the 4.3 update manually since the System Update wouldn't - now everything seems to be fine.
Light bleed gone when in sleep mode and no shadows either... ?????????
Weird, glad you got it sorted out.
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Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
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Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
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Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Smart saving has nothing to do with smart dimming unfortunately. You can only turn smart dimming off if you are rooted. I'd take it back and get a replacement as what you are seeing is not normal.
berndblb said:
Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Never seen this on any tablet.
To me it seems that some parts of the Led backlight are not working correct or totally not.
Better try to get it swapped or Rma'd ASAP.
R.I.P
I was filling out the Amazon return form and picked it up 'cause I got a notification about new mail - and that's when the digitizer gave up completely.
I was able to wipe my data by hooking it up to the TV and got it to reset with a lot of huntin' and pecking.
A replacement is on it's way. You gotta love Amazon :cyclops:

Image retention or burn in?

Hey all,
A few days ago, I bought a secondhand nexus 6. I've noticed some burn in (navbar) and I tried this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.amoledburninfix. The last 2 days I've let it run around 2 hours in total. It looks like it does help wear the pixels evenly. But I've also noticed, this evening, that if I do the test mode (gray screen) right after the "fix mode", the navbar ghost is almost gone. But if I run the test mode after normal usage (so when I don't use the "fix mode" for a while" I see more navbar ghosting. So what can explain the difference? Is the navbar ghosting that I see on a grey background image retention? Does it mean that the screen isn't that much affected with burn in because I don't see the navbar after using the "fix mode" (invert colors)?
Also, when I use the grey screen mode, it looks like I see the "ghost" of the clock in the right upper corner. The thing is, I can see the hour and minutes that where shown on the screen last minutes before testing with the grey screen. Does that confirm that this is image retention?
I'd like to hear your thoughts
Greets,
Swa100
I don't quite understand this issue as well. I bought my Nexus 6 brand new. I have not had it for quite a full month yet. I am already seeing "burn in" / "image retention" / "ghosting" from the Nav bar mainly but the status bar as well. I can only notice it in the "Amoled Burn-in Fixer" app when on the test burn in grey screen. I can not notice it anywhere else. Every once in a while I will turn off adaptive brightness, max out brightness, and run the "fix" for about 15 minutes. It literally disappears / fixes it. However, a few days later, it comes back. This is why I just run it once a week or so. I feel it will help even pixel wear, and it appears to be working overall.
This seems to be a VERY common problem on the Nexus 6. Remember, Samsung is the only manufacturer of AMOLED displays. I am assuming that their quality control department has different grading for their panels. Highest they keep for themselves, second they sell, third they throw out? Also, I have heard that burn in is much less common on the Samsung S series and Notes which also feature AMOLED displays. This is due to Samsung featuring a home button and capacitive buttons on each side of the home button. (no nav bar) Also their status bar is usually transparent. It seems to me that Samsung is well aware that AMOLED panels are subject to burn in / image retention and they kind of stay a step ahead of it by having buttons rather than a nav bar and the transparent status bar. Also if I remember right, their status bar symbols and numbers are a light blue rather than white, which is the color that is the hardest on AMOLED displays.
Rektifying said:
I don't quite understand this issue as well. I bought my Nexus 6 brand new. I have not had it for quite a full month yet. I am already seeing "burn in" / "image retention" / "ghosting" from the Nav bar mainly but the status bar as well. I can only notice it in the "Amoled Burn-in Fixer" app when on the test burn in grey screen. I can not notice it anywhere else. Every once in a while I will turn off adaptive brightness, max out brightness, and run the "fix" for about 15 minutes. It literally disappears / fixes it. However, a few days later, it comes back. This is why I just run it once a week or so. I feel it will help even pixel wear, and it appears to be working overall.
This seems to be a VERY common problem on the Nexus 6. Remember, Samsung is the only manufacturer of AMOLED displays. I am assuming that their quality control department has different grading for their panels. Highest they keep for themselves, second they sell, third they throw out? Also, I have heard that burn in is much less common on the Samsung S series and Notes which also feature AMOLED displays. This is due to Samsung featuring a home button and capacitive buttons on each side of the home button. (no nav bar) Also their status bar is usually transparent. It seems to me that Samsung is well aware that AMOLED panels are subject to burn in / image retention and they kind of stay a step ahead of it by having buttons rather than a nav bar and the transparent status bar. Also if I remember right, their status bar symbols and numbers are a light blue rather than white, which is the color that is the hardest on AMOLED displays.
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Try using the app to "fix" the burn in and check it directly after in the test mode. Then just use your phone for a few min and test it again. Do you also see the difference after a few minutes already? This must be image retention, right? So does that mean that the screen it's "normal state" is right after the "fix mode"? And the ghosting you see after a few minutes is just image retention?

How to avoid the AMOLED flickering?

I've recently bought the 9.7" version of the Tab S2. I was aware of how unrealistic and oversaturated the AMOLED display is on default setting, but luckily this can be turned off, so it was the very first thing i did (though now the white balance is off, but at least it is not oversaturated).
Unfortunately i wasn't aware the fact that the display at below ~75% brigthtness flickers. The lower the brightness the more disturbing it is. And it drives me crazy. I hate the flickering cheap cr*p LED light bulbs, i hate that most notebook screens with LED backlight are non PWM free, and are flickering And after having this tablet for three days, i am hating it too. I frankly believe these products should be banned, because it hurts your eye, and your brain. I thought when we said good bye to CRT monitors, flickering screens will never be an issue again. Unfortunately they are :/
After googling the internet i found this article gs5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/eliminate-screen-flicker-lower-minimum-brightness-android-0157760 but the solution unfortunately requires a rooted device, wich would trip the knox and void the warranty, so it's a no no for me. Then I found several other apps on the play store which are doing the same without requiring root access: drawing a black overlay over the screen and you can set the transparency of it, so you can get a lower brightness without the flickering, because your screen brightness is around maximum, the lowered transparcy of the black overlay makes it less bright. Unfortunately none of these apps work like the one for the rooted devices, wich has a second slider at status bar, so instead of the brightness you can change the transparency at the notification screen. The non rooted apps i found do not work this way, they don't have the extra slider, you need to tap them, so you can get to where you can change the trasnparency and that's very uncomfortable. I tried so far Darker and three other Screen Filter apps, but none of them works with a second slider :/ Also using the Screen Filter apps when there is a smooth color transition on the dipslay (default background picture for example) gives ugly end result. Using a Screen filter app might reduce battery life so i might need to charge it more often (i don't care), but since the display is not flickering, it is always on, it might will burn in faster (i do care, i intend to use this tablet for 3+ years) So i am currently in debate wether i should return this product and get my money back or not. It is a really great device, but this terrible flickering of the AMOLED screen makes me super unhappy, wish it had an IPS display :/
If this is an issue for you too, and you found a Screen Filter app with a second slider at the notification area (without requiring root permissions) please let me know.
Is this just an s2 thing, nothing of the sort on my tab s?
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It's not an S2 issue, I've seen several other phones and tablets in low light conditions set to a low brightness flickering like mine.. But you can test it, set a low brightness and start waving your finger in front of the screen like crazy. If you see ~10 seperate fingers -like in the picture attached- instead of one blurry (what you should see if there was a constant backlight), than yours is flickering too.
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It's not an S2 issue, I've seen several other phones and tablets in low light conditions set to a low brightness flickering like mine.. But you can test it, set a low brightness and start waving your finger in front of the screen like crazy. If you see ~10 seperate fingers -like in the picture attached- instead of one blurry (what you should see if there was a constant backlight), than yours is flickering too.
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I see what you mean, but it doesn't bother me as there is no perceivable flickering at all and it only happens when the brightness is below a certain level.
If that certain level would be around 20% brightness i wouldn't care. I haven't tested out yet, but that certain level is somewhere below 70% So -for me- it would flicker all the time.
Eh, there is no screen flickering but your finger is flickering over a light source aka *screen*. It's an optical illusion you are referring to.
I am also very sensitive to pwm on displays, it takes me less than a minute to feel sick from the display having pwm.
Any further solutions to this? Thank you.
I'm using the the app 'Night Screen' it does the job on Android 7.0 on my LG G6 which uses pwm under 35% of brightness even though this is an ips screen. Hope it helps.
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I've recently bought the 9.7" version of the Tab S2. I was aware of how unrealistic and oversaturated the AMOLED display is on default setting, but luckily this can be turned off, so it was the very first thing i did (though now the white balance is off, but at least it is not oversaturated).
Unfortunately i wasn't aware the fact that the display at below ~75% brigthtness flickers. The lower the brightness the more disturbing it is. And it drives me crazy. I hate the flickering cheap cr*p LED light bulbs, i hate that most notebook screens with LED backlight are non PWM free, and are flickering And after having this tablet for three days, i am hating it too. I frankly believe these products should be banned, because it hurts your eye, and your brain. I thought when we said good bye to CRT monitors, flickering screens will never be an issue again. Unfortunately they are :/
After googling the internet i found this article gs5.****************/how-to/eliminate-screen-flicker-lower-minimum-brightness-android-0157760 but the solution unfortunately requires a rooted device, wich would trip the knox and void the warranty, so it's a no no for me. Then I found several other apps on the play store which are doing the same without requiring root access: drawing a black overlay over the screen and you can set the transparency of it, so you can get a lower brightness without the flickering, because your screen brightness is around maximum, the lowered transparcy of the black overlay makes it less bright. Unfortunately none of these apps work like the one for the rooted devices, wich has a second slider at status bar, so instead of the brightness you can change the transparency at the notification screen. The non rooted apps i found do not work this way, they don't have the extra slider, you need to tap them, so you can get to where you can change the trasnparency and that's very uncomfortable. I tried so far Darker and three other Screen Filter apps, but none of them works with a second slider :/ Also using the Screen Filter apps when there is a smooth color transition on the dipslay (default background picture for example) gives ugly end result. Using a Screen filter app might reduce battery life so i might need to charge it more often (i don't care), but since the display is not flickering, it is always on, it might will burn in faster (i do care, i intend to use this tablet for 3+ years) So i am currently in debate wether i should return this product and get my money back or not. It is a really great device, but this terrible flickering of the AMOLED screen makes me super unhappy, wish it had an IPS display :/
If this is an issue for you too, and you found a Screen Filter app with a second slider at the notification area (without requiring root permissions) please let me know.
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So here is the app( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.js.oledsaver ) to avoid pwm & use the phone with low brightness.
App name is OLED SAVER
It's simple. You install it & follow the instructions & use it. Enjoy! ?
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I am also very sensitive to pwm on displays, it takes me less than a minute to feel sick from the display having pwm.
Any further solutions to this? Thank you.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.js.oledsaver
harigavara said:
So here is the app( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.js.oledsaver ) to avoid pwm & use the phone with low brightness.
App name is OLED SAVER
It's simple. You install it & follow the instructions & use it. Enjoy!
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.js.oledsaver
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Thanks for answering this 3 years old post I used Darker in the last three years to eliminate the flckering and was happy with it. I checked OLED Saver now, but it's permissions says to me it's a big no no.
Unfortunately, since Android 8 apps cannot draw a an overlay over system areas (notification bar etc., thanks google! ), so i guess i'll never have an OLED screen phone/tablet again.

Question Avoid keyboard burn-in

Hello all, my past 3 AMOLED phones have been facing burn-in where the keyboard is displayed as I tend to chat a lot! Can anyone give me an option to avoid it? Please don't troll and say use less keyboard!
Might help if you keep the brightness on the lower side, other than that seems like catch22
Also choose a darker theme for the keyboard.
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Also choose a darker theme for the keyboard.
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That's why it kept happening for me... The I turn it to light mode and then the burn in goes away!
Dark mode will help reduce it, but I leave my phone set to auto switch light and dark mode based on sunrise and sunset, this way whatever app I'm using also switches, so the light and dark apps, flip button colours as well so anything white on a black screen also becomes black on a white screen so it helps reverse any burnin in that sense too.
For example, texting apps usually also have white icons at the top which can burn in with dark mode, so if you switch to light mode, the same icons are now black on a white screen, so the screen burns but the icons don't, so it all slowly burns in together and nothing becomes noticeable.
Been doing this after getting burnin on my S10+ using only darkmode and light icons left burnin. And then on my S20 Ultra I did the flipping light and dark mode and never had issues but I also had the full screen settings to hide the pinhole camera so it made the entire top black, and then One UI 3.0 came out and they removed that option so now you can't hide the pinhole camera and I had a burnin bar across the top from where it was black lol.
Now on my S21 Ultra I have the light and dark mode set to flip at sun rise and sun set, and I can't hide the pin hole so maybe third phone is the charm here and I won't have any burnin at all this time haha.
Hope this helps.
There is no burn in with AMOLEDs; they have a finite lifespan and get dimmer as they age before finally failing after many 10's of thousands hours.
Don't over drive them by using them at maximum or near maximum levels.
High energy blue pixels are the most susceptible to damage, red the least because of its longer wavelength.
Use manual brightness control. Avoid going much over 50%.
Using full brightness reduces pixel lifespan as probably does high temperatures ie direct sunlight.
Limit usage at full brightness by the second*.
Using manual control ensures you're aware of it and keeps the phone from auto jacking it up on you when not really needed.
Turn it down in low light; don't burn out your retina's as they aren't replaceable.
Use dark mode whenever possible. Use dark or black wallpaper. You Good Lock to get rid of the stutus bar icons; simply use the pull down notification screen.
My 10+ gets heavy usage every day with a lot of keyboard time. At 15+ months there is no discernible weakness or dead pixels of any color at any brightness level.
*this is especially important with static images
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Dark mode will help reduce it, but I leave my phone set to auto switch light and dark mode based on sunrise and sunset, this way whatever app I'm using also switches, so the light and dark apps, flip button colours as well so anything white on a black screen also becomes black on a white screen so it helps reverse any burnin in that sense too.
For example, texting apps usually also have white icons at the top which can burn in with dark mode, so if you switch to light mode, the same icons are now black on a white screen, so the screen burns but the icons don't, so it all slowly burns in together and nothing becomes noticeable.
Been doing this after getting burnin on my S10+ using only darkmode and light icons left burnin. And then on my S20 Ultra I did the flipping light and dark mode and never had issues but I also had the full screen settings to hide the pinhole camera so it made the entire top black, and then One UI 3.0 came out and they removed that option so now you can't hide the pinhole camera and I had a burnin bar across the top from where it was black lol.
Now on my S21 Ultra I have the light and dark mode set to flip at sun rise and sun set, and I can't hide the pin hole so maybe third phone is the charm here and I won't have any burnin at all this time haha.
Hope this helps.
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you say you had burn in from keeping a black bar in the area where the pinhole was?
that doesnt make any sense. If it was black those pixels were off and there wouldnt be any burn in
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Get Gboard, And change it to a dark skin, I've never had any problems
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If it was black those pixels were off and there wouldnt be any burn in
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Reverse burn in, the screen area being used has a yellowish tone to it from being worn in over time, no matter how long the display is on, it's always burning in and the colour always adjusts over time from the burn in, it's the image retention burn in that people talk about, but the entire screen is always burning the entire time it's used. So by never using the top area the pixels are fresh and have a cooler tone to them than the rest of the screen as a result of this.
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Might help if you keep the brightness on the lower side, other than that seems like catch22
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Indeed. And to add, perhaps occasionally change from white to black keyboard to even things out.
This is a good one. Says something about fast charging and not showing this message again. Guess they forgot to check don’t show again.
No offence but:
Pay 1.2K for phone after you see super HDR, huge brightness etc. and then limit everything to minimum? Seriously?
If I see them, I will ask EE(my phone provider) to replace it. I had same issue with OP 7 Pro, screen burn ins, they have replaced phone.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
No offence but:
Pay 1.2K for phone after you see super HDR, huge brightness etc. and then limit everything to minimum? Seriously?
If I see them, I will ask EE(my phone provider) to replace it. I had same issue with OP 7 Pro, screen burn ins, they have replaced phone.
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Some countries like the UK have better consumer laws than others.
Sukrith said:
Hello all, my past 3 AMOLED phones have been facing burn-in where the keyboard is displayed as I tend to chat a lot! Can anyone give me an option to avoid it? Please don't troll and say use less keyboard!
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From normal use there will be no burnin. However, if you keep your display on showing the keboard all the time it will burn in. Also pixels start to burn in once they are on
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From normal use there will be no burnin. However, if you keep your display on showing the keboard all the time it will burn in. Also pixels start to burn in once they are on
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Mate - I had burn ins on my screen from things like clock etc, you cannot get rid of them, and it is a design flown, as long there is nothing in instruction etc.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Mate - I had burn ins on my screen from things like clock etc, you cannot get rid of them, and it is a design flown, as long there is nothing in instruction etc.
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Samsung shifts the AOD clock to help prevent this. However I use only tap on AOD now.
Perps know the deal, organic LEDs have a finite lifespan. Yeah you can drive your car as fast as it will go but you probably don't because you know it wouldn't last very long.
You wonder why the price tag keeps going up?
Freebies are never free.
Using in direct sunlight or at 80+% is just asking for it. In most cases completely avoidable. One can at least limit the time of use at full brightness and not have a homescreen that looks like a Vegas billboard.
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Samsung shifts the AOD clock to help prevent this. However I use only tap on AOD now.
Perps know the deal, organic LEDs have a finite lifespan. Yeah you can drive your car as fast as it will go but you probably don't because you know it wouldn't last very long.
You wonder why the price tag keeps going up?
Freebies are never free.
Using in direct sunlight or at 80+% is just asking for it. In most cases completely avoidable. One can at least limit the time of use at full brightness and not have a homescreen that looks like a Vegas billboard.
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So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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I live in Texas desert, the sun here is intense.
It burns out LED traffic lights all the time; OLEDs are far less tolerant.
Simply use in the shade.
The individual pixels are microscopic. That they work at all is amazing let alone being capable of high lumen output with extremely excellent color/gamma rendering.
The AMOLED matrix has 10's of thousands of active solid state components not just the OLED pixels themselves. All are hest sensitive plus the fact the display is helping to dissipate mobo heat while producing heat of it's own. The most heat sensitive component, the OLED is smack on top of this glass heatsink*.
Direct sunlight in especially high ambient temperatures is a real bad plan. You can fry any display like this.
Know, understand and respect their limitations. You will be rewarded with a long lived gorgeous display.
*glass is a good thermal insulator. Do tempered glass protective screens increase the thermal burden? Most likely. If cool at first the added mass will be protective but once the device (or the sun) heats that mass up things will go down hill from there and the display temperature will rapidly climb.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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Common sense should prevail I guess. I live in a place hotter than Spain. If I were to use my device in the middle of the day in bright sun light it’ll cook after 15mins. Hence why I don’t. But then would any other device.
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I live in Texas desert, the sun here is intense.
It burns out LED traffic lights all the time; OLEDs are far less tolerant.
Simply use in the shade.
The individual pixels are microscopic. That they work at all is amazing let alone being capable of high lumen output with extremely excellent color/gamma rendering.
The AMOLED matrix has 10's of thousands of active solid state components not just the OLED pixels themselves. All are hest sensitive plus the fact the display is helping to dissipate mobo heat while producing heat of it's own. The most heat sensitive component, the OLED is smack on top of this glass heatsink*.
Direct sunlight in especially high ambient temperatures is a real bad plan. You can fry any display like this.
Know, understand and respect their limitations. You will be rewarded with a long lived gorgeous display.
*glass is a good thermal insulator. Do tempered glass protective screens increase the thermal burden? Most likely. If cool at first the added mass will be protective but once the device (or the sun) heats that mass up things will go down hill from there and the display temperature will rapidly climb.
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And this was me think you lived in the Mojave desert.

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