Image retention or burn in? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
A few days ago, I bought a secondhand nexus 6. I've noticed some burn in (navbar) and I tried this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.amoledburninfix. The last 2 days I've let it run around 2 hours in total. It looks like it does help wear the pixels evenly. But I've also noticed, this evening, that if I do the test mode (gray screen) right after the "fix mode", the navbar ghost is almost gone. But if I run the test mode after normal usage (so when I don't use the "fix mode" for a while" I see more navbar ghosting. So what can explain the difference? Is the navbar ghosting that I see on a grey background image retention? Does it mean that the screen isn't that much affected with burn in because I don't see the navbar after using the "fix mode" (invert colors)?
Also, when I use the grey screen mode, it looks like I see the "ghost" of the clock in the right upper corner. The thing is, I can see the hour and minutes that where shown on the screen last minutes before testing with the grey screen. Does that confirm that this is image retention?
I'd like to hear your thoughts
Greets,
Swa100

I don't quite understand this issue as well. I bought my Nexus 6 brand new. I have not had it for quite a full month yet. I am already seeing "burn in" / "image retention" / "ghosting" from the Nav bar mainly but the status bar as well. I can only notice it in the "Amoled Burn-in Fixer" app when on the test burn in grey screen. I can not notice it anywhere else. Every once in a while I will turn off adaptive brightness, max out brightness, and run the "fix" for about 15 minutes. It literally disappears / fixes it. However, a few days later, it comes back. This is why I just run it once a week or so. I feel it will help even pixel wear, and it appears to be working overall.
This seems to be a VERY common problem on the Nexus 6. Remember, Samsung is the only manufacturer of AMOLED displays. I am assuming that their quality control department has different grading for their panels. Highest they keep for themselves, second they sell, third they throw out? Also, I have heard that burn in is much less common on the Samsung S series and Notes which also feature AMOLED displays. This is due to Samsung featuring a home button and capacitive buttons on each side of the home button. (no nav bar) Also their status bar is usually transparent. It seems to me that Samsung is well aware that AMOLED panels are subject to burn in / image retention and they kind of stay a step ahead of it by having buttons rather than a nav bar and the transparent status bar. Also if I remember right, their status bar symbols and numbers are a light blue rather than white, which is the color that is the hardest on AMOLED displays.

Rektifying said:
I don't quite understand this issue as well. I bought my Nexus 6 brand new. I have not had it for quite a full month yet. I am already seeing "burn in" / "image retention" / "ghosting" from the Nav bar mainly but the status bar as well. I can only notice it in the "Amoled Burn-in Fixer" app when on the test burn in grey screen. I can not notice it anywhere else. Every once in a while I will turn off adaptive brightness, max out brightness, and run the "fix" for about 15 minutes. It literally disappears / fixes it. However, a few days later, it comes back. This is why I just run it once a week or so. I feel it will help even pixel wear, and it appears to be working overall.
This seems to be a VERY common problem on the Nexus 6. Remember, Samsung is the only manufacturer of AMOLED displays. I am assuming that their quality control department has different grading for their panels. Highest they keep for themselves, second they sell, third they throw out? Also, I have heard that burn in is much less common on the Samsung S series and Notes which also feature AMOLED displays. This is due to Samsung featuring a home button and capacitive buttons on each side of the home button. (no nav bar) Also their status bar is usually transparent. It seems to me that Samsung is well aware that AMOLED panels are subject to burn in / image retention and they kind of stay a step ahead of it by having buttons rather than a nav bar and the transparent status bar. Also if I remember right, their status bar symbols and numbers are a light blue rather than white, which is the color that is the hardest on AMOLED displays.
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Try using the app to "fix" the burn in and check it directly after in the test mode. Then just use your phone for a few min and test it again. Do you also see the difference after a few minutes already? This must be image retention, right? So does that mean that the screen it's "normal state" is right after the "fix mode"? And the ghosting you see after a few minutes is just image retention?

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Is your Super AMOLED screen still working properly ?

hi guys,
Is your Super AMOLED screen still working properly ?
how long did you own your phone ?
Have my phone for 8 or 9 months, still going strong, nothing funny and no burn-in.
I use the screen mostly at low brightness.
I have the idea that JVH/2.3.3 has lower brightness, or it is just the brighter days in summer. But it is not burn in as there is no pattern.
Works perfect here.. No issue at all after 8 months. ther eis 24 months warranty so.. got some time for it to get crap and turn it in if it does. =)
All good here. 11 months, no burn in, no colour problems. Generally use lowest brightness settings. Perhaps flashing roms/themes on a weeklyish basis, helps prevent burn in.
Of course, why do you ask?
As far as burn-in (burn-out) if I display a solid blue screen I can see where the AM/PM used to be (before I turned the clock to 24hr) and some small 'smudges' where the other status icons are. Not a big deal.
Different themes would probably help, especially if there was less blue in the status icons (green or orange instead of white) since it burns out faster.
Time burnt in .....bought it like that
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status bar and time burnt in when displaying on white screen.. bought used though.. also keyboard is shown very lightly.. but doesnt bother me much though..
I've had mine for 10 months and so far no burn in.
I'm interested to know though, what causes the burn in's?
I've had mine for about 10 months, medium brightness most of times, sometimes max brightness.
Clock is a little burned in screen and sometimes I can see the swype keyboard keys on very white and bright backgrounds.
about ±7 months already...still nothing weird ... still no screen burn in detected.. and nothing unusual...
when stay in house/office = lowest brightness... when outside/driving = maximum brightness..
I don't use brightness. Screen is practically brand new. Screen protector since day 1
Fasty Captivate
I think the app, NoLED causes burn ins.
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Used for about an year now. Mainly auto-brightness all the time. Mostly portrait mode. With white display occasionally I may see taskbar contour on the top. Not seen when watching videos in landscape mode.5 star for this display after heavy use.
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The time is burning in on mine, visible barely only with blue screen. 5 months.
zerkai said:
I think the app, NoLED causes burn ins.
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Unlikely. The notifications appear all over the place and move frequently specifically to prevent burnin
13 months
auto- brightness
looks completely fine to me
Having my SGS for 7 months now,no reported burn in or screen problems.! The phone is a beast.
1 year now,no problems at all
How long do you thing that Amoled screen will last ?
i have mine just over a year now and like others I have burn-in where the notification bar is but nothing else....
Does anybody know if the warranty would cover the burn-in??
13 months, still working great.

AMOLED = burn in.

I've recently removed the soft buttons in favour of LMT and now can see some blue burn in along the bottom edge where the buttons used to be, visible on a white or grey screen.
Anyone else got this?
Same issue on my phone... Using lmt and hiding softkeys. If i look at a white screen i find a light pink stain on the lower left corner... Hmm... On k9 the up and down button are grey. If i compare both i can clearly notice a difference in shade... But, It aint a crt... So nothing burned in... Its just a production tolerance, i think. Like a pixel error on lcd. Hadnt you root the phone and hide the keys maybe the failure would never have occurred to you. I think i will observe it and give another feedback later.

Ghosting

Is it possible to fix ghosting? I have a slight ghosting where the status bar and navigation bar are, and is also visible with some tinted images, like full grey or red..
This is just how AMOLED screens work. They get burn in more easily, especially where the on screen navigation and status icons are. All Moto X have this, usually after only a month or two because they are on whenever the screen is on.
And it's not fixable?
I don't believe so. There are apps that can help "fix" screen burn, but I don't know that I'd really buy into it.
It is normal with AMOLED screens and I don't know that I would consider it a defect, as it is expected behavior with this technology.
alexhdkn said:
And it's not fixable?
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try this. i use it on my plasma when, say, netflix logo stays on too long. i've never used it on amoled but it can't hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39HUG7QrQi8
I don't think it is fixable. I had it on my gnex and ran those "screen fixing" apps every night while I slept for a week with no improvement. When I got my moto x I made sure you hide the nav bar and use pie in an effort to prevent it. I use full screen mode in the browser as well for the same reason as most of my screen time is with the browser.
The only way to "fix it" is this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bengigi.screen.diagnostic&hl=en though it basically just evens out the burn in.

Non-uniform intensity across screen at low-brightness settings?

Hi,
Has anyone notciced un-even brightness across the screen at low light levels (for darker colors)? I thought it was just the nature of these OLED screens, but I don't see this with Galaxy Phone with similar display type, so I'm wondering if I just have a defective unit with bad display.
To test it:
- Do this at night (when ambient light is fairly low).
- Lower brightness down to the lowest setting (turn off auto-brightness)
- Open Chrome browser, and close all tabs, so that you get a blank dark screen with just the "+" icon. This leaves a dark gray background, just enough to notice if there is any uneveness in brightness.
On my unit, I see about 3-4 inches of bands/streaks of darker areas at bottom half of the screen. If I rotate the tablet, the darker areas stay in their physical location (so these bands become vertical instead of horizontal), so I know it's not a software issue.
I have a couple of weeks left before I need to decide on whether to exchange the tab, so would appreciate if anyone can help me verify if this is normal thing with these screens.
Many thanks, Tony.
tonyc1 said:
Hi,
Has anyone notciced un-even brightness across the screen at low light levels (for darker colors)? I thought it was just the nature of these OLED screens, but I don't see this with Galaxy Phone with similar display type, so I'm wondering if I just have a defective unit with bad display.
To test it:
- Do this at night (when ambient light is fairly low).
- Lower brightness down to the lowest setting (turn off auto-brightness)
- Open Chrome browser, and close all tabs, so that you get a blank dark screen with just the "+" icon. This leaves a dark gray background, just enough to notice if there is any uneveness in brightness.
On my unit, I see about 3-4 inches of bands/streaks of darker areas at bottom half of the screen. If I rotate the tablet, the darker areas stay in their physical location (so these bands become vertical instead of horizontal), so I know it's not a software issue.
I have a couple of weeks left before I need to decide on whether to exchange the tab, so would appreciate if anyone can help me verify if this is normal thing with these screens.
Many thanks, Tony.
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I have notice a similar thing, mostly on gray - dark gray backgrounds, and not necessarily at lowest brightness (low enough though). I wanted to check about it on a couple of devices on display at retail stores but it's hard to test there.
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Hi tonyc1,
Having had 4 of these I can confirm that this unevenness is normal on the 9.7" screen but was not present on the 8" model.
I went through 4 to get one that was reasonably even, 2 of them were pretty awful to the point that the greyscale was all over the place.
The unit I settled on has a slightly darker band in the middle of the screen and a slight darkening at the very top.
I owned the original tab s 10.5 and have to say the screen on that was more even and detailed, I prefer the former factor and speed of this S2 but the screen is a step backwards.
Hope this info helps.
Cheers
Thanks for the notes and confirming this is a somewhat common issue. I guess I will live with it for now..

Question Strange White line at upper edge of rhe Screen

Hallo,
Recently I have noticed this white line at the top of my screen. Since it shows in the screenshots it is an Software problem. I started my S21 Ultra once in the safe mode but the problem still persisted.
I have already contacted Samsung Customer Service but they also had no idea. Does someone have the same same problem or a solution?
It doesn't bother me but I fear burnin over Time
It seems like a part of the notification bar. But disappears when I show the navigation bar with the tiles.
It looks like one of those battery indicator lines. Did you install any UI mods or battery analysis apps? Sometimes these battery apps have a built in option for exactly that. Easy way to know is, does the white line get shorter the less battery % is left? If yes it's probably the described issue and you should look into the options of apps you installed.
Yeah that's it. I had one UI mod for this but I explicitly changed it to "hide".
But it seems like in the settings the options to enable and disable are flipped (hide = enable) and since my cover obstructed the last line of my screen it took a few weeks until I noticed it.

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