This may be a dumb question, but in another thread abt wifi issues, I mentioned that I'm on Eclipse and my wifi works fine. Another user said that Eclipse is a stock rom, not a custom rom, and that's why I didn't have the WiFi problem.
I had to flash Eclipse so I therefore assume it's a custom rom. If this person is correct, then my question is, what is considered a custom rom? And why is Eclipse considered a stock rom?
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Some ROMs are based on Stock ROM.. Without bloats....
Some change everything including the UI... Those are Custom.
This is how I was told.. :3
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Eclipse is a custom ROM based on a stock build. Eclipse has been heavily modified but everything that works on stock will work on Eclipse and more.
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New to android world and looking for first rom. On stock Froyo 2.2, rooted, clockwork installed. Which rom can be installed without Odin? Do kernels have to be installed separate, if so, is it before or after rom install? Looking for sense-like ui.
Thanks!!
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If you want sense go buy a HTC lol. Odin is going to be your bread and butter since its the easiest way to flash to stock and flash kernels. Most roms can be installed without odin though. Go to the dev page and look around at the roms and make your choice. Remember Gingerbread needs new bootloaders (except Cyanogenmod and Miui) and as always read read read.
CM7......
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For droid bionic: custom rom such as Eclipse and Liberty, are they based on the stock moto rom or based on CM7?
wow this is a premature and unneccary thread go to adroid development stickied rom/scripts/hacks etc.. it has a line up if they are 902 based 901 896 etc... click on the link it will probably bring you to rootz wiki and the rom will tell you if it is stock etc.. kinex is stock based eclipse has customized but has parts of blur still in it but is mainly aosp.
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Sorry, if you feel this as unnecessary thread. I did mention the question as newbie question. I did look/search & couldn't find the answer I was looking for. The reason I asked is that whichever custom rom I look, it REQUIRES some specific version from moto original rom such as 902, 901, 893 version to be compatible with that particular rom. That's why I though those custom rom are based on moto rom. I just want to understand why can't we just flash to custom rom like CM7 on bionic. If you can give me a clear answer it will be great.
Thanks in advance.
htceris123 said:
Sorry, if you feel this as unnecessary thread. I did mention the question as newbie question. I did look/search & couldn't find the answer I was looking for. The reason I asked is that whichever custom rom I look, it REQUIRES some specific version from moto original rom such as 902, 901, 893 version to be compatible with that particular rom. That's why I though those custom rom are based on moto rom. I just want to understand why can't we just flash to custom rom like CM7 on bionic. If you can give me a clear answer it will be great.
Thanks in advance.
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The reason that you can't flash CM7 over top of stock is this:
Think of CM7 as an "update", since we are on a locked bootloader.
Now, we can't change the kernel, which is the core of the Android OS.
So, with CM7 we can't have everything that CM7 has to offer.
So devs port the CM7 code so it will work with our kernel.
This means that whatever kernel version the dev uses to write CM7 must be installed before you flash CM7. Otherwise you have a ROM with a kernel that is not compatible with it (and that is not good). It would be the same as flashing a ROM meant for an HTC phone to a Motorola phone like ours. It just wouldn't work.
Thanks, Priddyma, for explaining .....
So, basically, custom roms for bionic such as Eclipse & Liberty are built based on particular moto locked kernel, right? Is it also the case with new bionic roms with ICS features, are they built around the .902 kernel with ICS features?
Another question, when we do OTA official updates, for instant update from .893 to .902, the official updates (from Motorola) are capable of flashing to different kernel? In other words, is it possible to flash kernel (If you are Motorola dev & have the unlock code)?
What I want to know is that in the future, if Motorola is nice enough & could release the unlock code so that we can flash bootloader/kernel to whatever we want.
It's already been stated by verizon that it's them locking the bootloader, and not moto.
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Why do so many developers suggest to revert to stock ROM before flashing another ROM or a new version?
This is widely suggested and I see no reason for it.
Of course a re-format and all cache wipes are mandatory.
A ROM upgrading procedure is deleting everything as a first step, or?
What i reckon is JB custom Roms were mostly tested to be flashed coming from a previous Android system ICS (and of course ICS from GB). That's the reason why many users experience post installation problems like invalid IMEI and instabilities when flashing directly a JB Rom coming from a GB.
It's always best to follow the recommendation of Developers who built our custom Roms, they know better.
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What i reckon is JB custom Roms were mostly tested to be flashed coming from a previous Android system ICS (and of course ICS from GB). That's the reason why many users experience post installation problems like invalid IMEI and instabilities when flashing directly a JB Rom coming from a GB.
It's always best to follow the recommendation of Developers who built our custom Roms, they know better.
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The most common developer's advice is to first flash a stock GB rom and afterwards load a new JB ROM.
I still see no reason for it. Once a new ROM is flashed everything (what was before) is wiped, or?
The only reason I see is to make it safe for the ones which do not follow the fromat/delete all caches procedure...
Still silly to me....
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The most common developer's advice is to first flash a stock GB rom and afterwards load a new JB ROM.
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I've never seen this advice. Mostly it is the exact opposite, namely flashing CM9 first and then going to JB AFAIK.
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GrippingSphere said:
What i reckon is JB custom Roms were mostly tested to be flashed coming from a previous Android system ICS (and of course ICS from GB). That's the reason why many users experience post installation problems like invalid IMEI and instabilities when flashing directly a JB Rom coming from a GB.
It's always best to follow the recommendation of Developers who built our custom Roms, they know better.
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I've never seen this advice. Mostly it is the exact opposite, namely flashing CM9 first and then going to JB AFAIK.
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Elitemovil reccomends this. I'm running this ROM and want to upgrade to new version with new Partition layout.
Anyway, we are loosing the point here - I still see no reason to make any "intermediate" steps before flashing the ROM which I want.
Anyone knows the answer wha there might be problems from swithching ROMs immediately?
HI, wanted to know of a way to check what kind of bootloader I have. Btw flashed and ran AOSP lollipop ROMs and stock based KitKat ROMs, but when trying to flash CloudyG2 3.3 which is a stock based lollipop rom it got stuck in a bootloop.
Help appreciated, thanks.
Well the 39a bootstack is required for that rom and its highly recommended if coming aosp roms to flash complete stock (in op's posts) and bootstack which is included with the debloated stock rom. Also make sure to do a full wipe coming from a different base or its null and void
Edit: oh and the first most important to do before anything is backup!
Thanks for the answer. I figured it out a little after writing here Thanks anyway.
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My note 4 is now android 5.1.1 , and I heard that you must flash custom Kernel to avoid boot loop when rooting android 5.1.
I don't know where to start, can anyone please tell me what the current most stable, fast and battery friendly solution for Note 4?
What I can think of so far are:
1. root + custom kernel+some way to debloat
2. Stock debloated TW rom like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/trltecan-n910w8-aoa1-stock-rooted-t3025538
3. Modified stock debloated TW rom like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/moving-please-dont-post-t2943845
4. Custom rom like cm: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=trltetmo
ps: Apart from custom kernel, can we also root 5.1.1 note 4 by Install 5.0.1 Bootloader ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/root-5-1-1-n910c-t3190520 Is there some other ways that I'm not being aware of?
inonosa said:
My note 4 is now android 5.1.1 , and I heard that you must flash custom Kernel to avoid boot loop when rooting android 5.1.
I don't know where to start, can anyone please tell me what the current most stable, fast and battery friendly solution for Note 4?
What I can think of so far are:
1. root + custom kernel+some way to debloat
2. Stock debloated TW rom like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...ooted-t3025538
3. Modified stock debloated TW rom like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...-post-t2943845
4. Custom rom like cm: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?ty...evice=trltetmo
ps: Apart from custom kernel, can we also root 5.1.1 note 4 by Install 5.0.1 Bootloader ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...n910c-t3190520 Is there some other ways that I'm not being aware of?
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If it helps, I rooted and installed a modified international TW ROM. I lose wifi calling. (Never used it) Lose Tmobile hotspot (FoxFi replaces this just fine) Other then adding the APN manually and changing the region in my build.prop to US, it was pretty straight forward. If you want debloat, just root, add TWRP, wipe the stock rom and add a custom one. I prefer modified TW because of stability. I flashed the international because its 5.1.1. So far it runs very well. The ROM I flashed required no additional flashing of a kernel . Look at my sig for the ROM im currently on
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If it helps, I rooted and installed a modified international TW ROM. I lose wifi calling. (Never used it) Lose Tmobile hotspot (FoxFi replaces this just fine) Other then adding the APN manually and changing the region in my build.prop to US, it was pretty straight forward. If you want debloat, just root, add TWRP, wipe the stock rom and add a custom one. I prefer modified TW because of stability. I flashed the international because its 5.1.1. So far it runs very well. The ROM I flashed required no additional flashing of a ROM. Look at my sig for the ROM im currently on
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That is what I thought, and i'm getting Modified stock debloated TW rom, RAPTURE
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That is what I thought, and i'm getting Modified stock debloated TW rom, RAPTURE
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I was running Darthstalker for months. It ran well for the most part. I heard there was several android bug fixes from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 that make running a ROM more user friendly.
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inonosa said:
My note 4 is now android 5.1.1 , and I heard that you must flash custom Kernel to avoid boot loop when rooting android 5.1.
I don't know where to start, can anyone please tell me what the current most stable, fast and battery friendly solution for Note 4?
What I can think of so far are:
1. root + custom kernel+some way to debloat
2. Stock debloated TW rom like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...ooted-t3025538
3. Modified stock debloated TW rom like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...-post-t2943845
4. Custom rom like cm: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?ty...evice=trltetmo
ps: Apart from custom kernel, can we also root 5.1.1 note 4 by Install 5.0.1 Bootloader ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...n910c-t3190520 Is there some other ways that I'm not being aware of?
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I have a group on Google+ that is dedicated to debloating ROMs send me a PM if you are interested.
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I have a group on Google+ that is dedicated to debloating ROMs send me a PM if you are interested.
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thanks man, just the backing up/restoring the app+data had turned me off......
I think that I will stay with RAPTURE before something Major went wrong.
but what is your recommended rom?
inonosa said:
thanks man, just the backing up/restoring the app+data had turned me off......
I think that I will stay with RAPTURE before something Major went wrong.
but what is your recommended rom?
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I'm using TEKHD right now. It's good 5.1.1 with good battery life, but really its just to hold me over till 6.0 drops either CM or TW.
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