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I've had my Bionic for the past 3 weeks now but I actually haven't used it since I didn't have a method for root access yet. Now that I realize how simple it was and did it (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17251186&postcount=19), I'll be actually using the device as my daily.
I realize that it's super late and close to release date anyway but is there anything the XDA community would like to know about the device? I'll be happy to give my opinions. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt if that makes any difference and am a rather die-hard HTC fan but I will try to be objective with the Bionic.
Edit: I also have a plethora of accessories (extended batteries, HD docking station, car dock, etc.) and will have the Webtop in a few days time if you'd like to know about them, too.
Don't know why no one believed me
I too used the same root method but no one believed me because i didn't have a picture of the phone, so i just pulled one of the net lol. Have to say that I am completely satisfied with it, much better than my DX
I just got word from my friend who runs a store, my Bionic will be ready for me on release day. Been running a Droid 2 since it was about 3 months old and it's done me well (since getting off blur and going to GB CM7, or even when it was Froyo). I am beside myself with anticipation right now.
i too am waiting for the release of the bionic,i m coming from the DROID x2 which is also a good phone. so whats the verdict on the Bionic? inquiring minds wanna know.
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I've had my Bionic for the past 3 weeks now but I actually haven't used it since I didn't have a method for root access yet. Now that I realize how simple it was and did it (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17251186&postcount=19), I'll be actually using the device as my daily.
I realize that it's super late and close to release date anyway but is there anything the XDA community would like to know about the device? I'll be happy to give my opinions. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt if that makes any difference and am a rather die-hard HTC fan but I will try to be objective with the Bionic.
Edit: I also have a plethora of accessories (extended batteries, HD docking station, car dock, etc.) and will have the Webtop in a few days time if you'd like to know about them, too.
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I do have one thing I'm curious about, is the bootloader unlocked??
HAHA, I'm lucky! I got my Droid Charge back in May from Bestbuy....ended up doing a price match on the 25th of July, which was about 40 days from the date of purchase and the 8th JUST SO happens to be the end of the 45 day return policy.....I'm incredibly excited for it!!
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I do have one thing I'm curious about, is the bootloader unlocked??
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Definitely locked.
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Definitely locked.
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-bionic-discussions/9085-droid-bionic-rooted.html
Do any of the tethering apps work?
Questions I have:
1. Is pentile as bad as the Atrix? That thing was blocky...
2. Can the phone actually draw the color yellow? Atrix could NOT. It was always a gold or brown color.
3. Hows the battery life? Realistically speaking can it last the whole day with average use?
4. Does the bulk around the camera hamper the feel of the phone?
5. Wireless tether app work?
Really really trying to get rid of this thunderbolt...
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Questions I have:
1. Is pentile as bad as the Atrix? That thing was blocky...
2. Can the phone actually draw the color yellow? Atrix could NOT. It was always a gold or brown color.
3. Hows the battery life? Realistically speaking can it last the whole day with average use?
4. Does the bulk around the camera hamper the feel of the phone?
5. Wireless tether app work?
Really really trying to get rid of this thunderbolt...
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All your questions are answered in this thread:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/droid-bionic/115848-my-bionic.html
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-bionic-discussions/9085-droid-bionic-rooted.html
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The question is whether or not the bootloader is locked, not whether it's rootable. If you had followed my link, I had used the same method to obtain root.
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Questions I have:
1. Is pentile as bad as the Atrix? That thing was blocky...
2. Can the phone actually draw the color yellow? Atrix could NOT. It was always a gold or brown color.
3. Hows the battery life? Realistically speaking can it last the whole day with average use?
4. Does the bulk around the camera hamper the feel of the phone?
5. Wireless tether app work?
Really really trying to get rid of this thunderbolt...
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1. Yes, it is just as bad in my opinion. Coming from strictly HTC phones (although my brother does have an Atrix) it was unbearable at first. Given some more time though, I've gotten used to it. The notification bar and battery icon are especially noticeable.
2. Yellows seem acceptable to me.
3. Battery life has been fine, even with fair usage I can get through a 12 hour day easily.
4. I actually find the bulk to work out well. Your finger can rest underneath it, and the phone is surprisingly light (especially compared to my Thunderbolt; it weighs way less with the normal battery and is no heaver than the TB with an extended battery in) so it holds well in the hand.
5. Neither Wireless Tether or Barnacle worked when I tried them.
Wow, no wireless tether? I may have to keep my iPhone then. I was really looking forward to tethering at 4G
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Wow, no wireless tether? I may have to keep my iPhone then. I was really looking forward to tethering at 4G
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Given a small amount of time it will be possible. The problem is truly VZ cracking down on people tethering with unlimited data, putting them on a tiered plan and charging them the extra 20 or 30 or whatever a month for the tethering service (which is bull****!).
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The question is whether or not the bootloader is locked, not whether it's rootable. If you had followed my link, I had used the same method to obtain root.
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If the bootloader was locked, like you said it was....it wouldn't be rootable.
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If the bootloader was locked, like you said it was....it wouldn't be rootable.
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The bootloader does not need to be unlocked to obtain root access.
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If the bootloader was locked, like you said it was....it wouldn't be rootable.
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How does someone with 200 posts here become so misinformed?
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Wow, no wireless tether? I may have to keep my iPhone then. I was really looking forward to tethering at 4G
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I imagine there'll be a workaround once more devs get a hand on the device. The Thunderbolt (and I imagine other Verizon devices) have the same issue and a modified app was available to tether with. That's honestly one of the few things I miss going from the TB to Bionic. All in due time, I'm sure.
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I imagine there'll be a workaround once more devs get a hand on the device. The Thunderbolt (and I imagine other Verizon devices) have the same issue and a modified app was available to tether with. That's honestly one of the few things I miss going from the TB to Bionic. All in due time, I'm sure.
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Yes. Again I can't imagine it's not already in the works from the few devs that might have gotten their hands on one early. If not, I'd give it a couple weeks.
So I'm a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) user and looking to get a new phone. I'm looking at getting a Moto X and I have a few questions about it. Mainly in regards to rooting and getting cyanogenmod up and running on it. I don't mind using its stock rom as it seems rather close to stock android, but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features like the shake to unlock the camera and the voice commands. Also how is the battery on the device (I normally stick to 3G and maybe web surf a bit and look at my RSS feeds through the day not a lot of really data intense apps.) Thanks.
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
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I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
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I will eventually root this thing... someday. I would also like a new kernel and I want to have Greenify back and some small customization options, but for now I am going to enjoy not troubleshooting some sort of issue that comes as a side effect of rooting.
I I just switched to the Moto X from the gnex on Sprint. I am very happy with my decision. The battery life is an enormous improvement over the gnex. I have always rooted my devices and installed custom roms, but I am yet to do so on the Moto X. It has a great stock set up. I will likely root once 4.4 is avaliable, but only to get rid of the sprint crap.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto Maker allows an option for 32gb, so you could wait for that on Verizon, or the Developer Edition is 32gb but you have to pay $549 for it.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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We're hoping when Verizon gets Moto maker access 32gb will be an option. Right now you can get a 32gb developer version but you'll have to pay full price, ($550) and is only available in a weird white /black combo.
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Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto maker is a breeze... You do everything through the website, new line, upgrade or off contact. Much easier than I had anticipated.
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Came from a galaxy "nexus" to the X and love it. I finally did root it and have played with Xposed a bit, and I will probably never flash a rom again. Xposed let's me change all of the things that I cared about on AOKP like having a torch toggle in QS, and statusbar/navbar transparency. To be honest, if I didn't want to enable native tether privileges (still unlimited here), I wouldn't be rooted.
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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I LOVE HTC but I had the one for five weeks and at least 1 out of 4 calls were dropped randomly or my cheek would hang up the call. I loved the look of the one and thought sense 5 was the best sense yet. However due to the dropped calls the phone just did not work for me.
I have talked to others that returned the phone for the same reason
I wouldn't use the HTC one either. The sense UI is rather sluggish (I've used in the past before - HTC incredible and I've used the demo of the HTC one they had the verizon store and it was the same slowness), Not at all a fan of beats by dre/monster cables. And the button layout is kinda eh. Used to having 4 icons at the bottom with the main menu button being near the center.
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....but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features....
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Question for the group... Will rooting alone allow you to install CM? Is CM available to be flashed via safestrap?
I ask because -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...cyanogenmod-10-2-experimental-nightly-builds/ and -> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1060_Info seem to indicate its for Unlocked bootloader or Developer Edition. And since there is no way yet to unlock the non-Dev Edition's boot loader, it further appears its really for Dev Ed only. And all the roms that aren't a leak from Moto in the Developer sections here also state you need a Developer Edition X or Unlocked boot loader.
Vergil117, as far as rooting, JCASE has released ways to root the initial shipping rom version, and the OTA update for the camera fix. So that is easy enough. I have rooted mine, just to tether (I still have unlimited). As with other devices, if you don't have an unlocked boot loader, rooting after new ROM updates are pushed is uncertain.
Like most have posted, I think the X in its stock form is very nice, and I don't find a need to flash a alternate ROM. If you flash to CM, you'll loose the Moto customization like touch-less control, shake for camera, etc.
So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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Same, I got to step 2 on Tuesday morning and that's been it so far. I'm hopeful we'll get our shipping notifications soon so we can get our phones before the weekend. But I know Moto probably got slammed with a bunch of orders on Monday so some of us may have to wait till next week...
Update to the shipping post. I got the fedex info and it should be here Friday yay.
Motorola's update system is way behind. When I ordered mine, over a month ago, It didn't say shipped until the morning it arrived and I didn't get a tracking number until an hour or so after I had already received the device.
But it arrived the day they said it would... I'd rather the info be late instead of the phone
Moto X rocking 4.4
Oh I know the feeling, Fedex was being lazy yesterday with my order. I live in a gated apartment building, the main lobby is like right next to the door to the building. I honestly think they saw the door and said oh no one here and went away. So I had to call them and tell them to drop it off at a fedex store.
Yes, I know this has been beaten to death, but I have also found myself in the "which one" boat. Has anyone else been torn and made the decision? how do you feel about your choice? thoughts?
I don't like the color scheme of the dev edition, but i like the concept of ensured root and custom ROMs, if development picks up pace. That being said, I get the impression that CM and other non-stock roms lose the beautiful features of touchless control and active notifications. Is this still true? If so, is there hope for it in the future? Is there any real advantage to the DE other than not having to wait for a root exploit? I'm currently very happy on eclipse, but i did find myself frustrated while waiting for a 4.4 root exploit. Anyway, just looking to get some general impressions on whose happy with having chosen one or the other and why. And also, if you've tried DE-only ROMS, which ones and what you thought of them.
Thanks XD
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Yes, I know this has been beaten to death, but I have also found myself in the "which one" boat. Has anyone else been torn and made the decision? how do you feel about your choice? thoughts?
I don't like the color scheme of the dev edition, but i like the concept of ensured root and custom ROMs, if development picks up pace. That being said, I get the impression that CM and other non-stock roms lose the beautiful features of touchless control and active notifications. Is this still true? If so, is there hope for it in the future? Is there any real advantage to the DE other than not having to wait for a root exploit? I'm currently very happy on eclipse, but i did find myself frustrated while waiting for a 4.4 root exploit. Anyway, just looking to get some general impressions on whose happy with having chosen one or the other and why. And also, if you've tried DE-only ROMS, which ones and what you thought of them.
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It's much easier to root the DEV, but both can be http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
I fought this very same thing ... Really not into a two-toned phone LOL
But after playing with the Moto Maker site and seeing my custom 32GB ebony/black/silver device was the same exact price as a dev edition device, I promptly removed the custom device from my cart and got the dev edition. I know I will root, not necessarily ROM, so why not take the path of least resistance? Also, I'll definitely be getting a case so there's a good chance that eventually all those customizations will be hidden anyway.
Just my $0.02
Note 3 .... that is all!!
I got a 16gig retail "black woven" Demo X from Verizon in early Sept that I used for two months. This was the first phone in a long while that I didn't use a case for. It felt great in my hand. I didn't drop it. And after using it, I saw little need to root. Tethering was the biggest draw for root, along with blocking ads.
I've never been a fan of alternate ROMs. The ones I've tried on past phones always had bugs or issues, got updated frequently, etc. I spent more time "debugging" and "flashing" my phone than actually using it. With its stock ROM, the X just works and is so close to stock android that I don't want to mess that up with a custom rom. So I haven't really looked into the availability of the custom Moto X features (like active display, voice control, etc)
In early Nov when it came time to send the demo back, I opted to purchase the Dev Edition X for Verizon. At the time it was way more expensive, voided the warranty to unlock the bootloader, but the only 32gig option for Verizon, and most important to me was the ability to root without waiting on an exploit. When the Kit Kat root came out so fast, I was kind of kicking myself for not just using an upgrade and getting the Retail X. BUT.. seeing how involved the SlapMyMoto & MotoWpNoMo processes are compared to rooting the Dev Edition X, I felt better about my purchase. With the Dev X, its just flash TWRP recovery, boot into it and install SuperSU no matter what version stock ROM you are running. There is also the unknown of the 4.4.2 update coming, what is needed to install it if you've rooted with SlapMyMoto, and how to re-root if you have a locked boot loader. That wont be a problem with the Dev Ed. And recently Moto changed their policy about unlocking the Dev Edition bootloader, it no longer voids the warranty, and they re-instated the warranties which also makes me feel better.
I wouldn't say I'm a "fan" of the Dev Ed backing, either color or its slipperiness. The texture of the black woven demo I had was different/better. I have dropped my Dev X at home (on the carpet thankfully). To solve the lack of grip, I got one of those XtremeGuard full body kits when they were on sale for like $2.50 including shipping. I've only put the back on my phone and it has helped. I also have a SUPCASE and a Minisuit Clipster The cases do cover up the back, so had I opted for a MotoMaker, I wouldn't see its back when in the case. While both cases do alter the size and feel a little, its not enough to make me not use the case.
In the end, its up to you. Ease of Root and Write Protection Enable, Possibility of running 3rd party ROMs (which may cost you the Moto X features) vs custom colors and trim which might get covered by a case anyway, and may be less slippery without a case, and uncertainty of rooting.
Oh, and you can still use safe strap to run a few "custom" roms on the motomaker X.
I had the same struggle then concluded that I know I'll put a case on it and I know I hate bloatware, google included, and will want to remove it so I chose the developer edition...
Make life easier on yourself and go with the Dev Edition. You have guaranteed control of your phone.
ROMing on this phone is almost pointless with GravityBox being able to customize almost anything you'd get on a custom ROM anyway, as long as you can root. That makes the Dev edition not as important, but it also means root is required and that is only guaranteed with the Dev edition.
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I got a Moto Maker version, and while I love the phone, I do sorta regret not getting a Dev Edition. I haven't bothered to root my phone, since this phone is so fantastic on its own (and I figured out how to restore app data), but it would be nice to unlock the bootloader in case I wanted to try some ROMs.
That being said, personally, I think stock Moto X is superior to CyanogenMod (which I have on other devices). And there isn't any real bloatware (since you can always Disable it).
Bought a MotoMaker and don't regret not opting for the Dev Edition at all. The root process wasn't difficult at all. If you think that it was, stop using toolkits. I'm not a developer nor do I work in the IT industry, I'm just a tech geek like most people here. Knowing how to use adb and fastboot has saved my ass many times
Ha, well the funny thing is, I AM a developer, so part of me likes the crazy exploits that came out for the Moto X. But I'm getting to a point in my life where, between work, a relationship, and all the little things in between, time is an increasingly rare commodity. When the telnet root exploit came out, I was like "wow, what a wizard to have figured that out!", and it was kind of fun, but then especially having to do it again on 4.4, reading about, setting up, and actually executing the exploit can be time consuming. It's not challenging, just time consuming. Why spend an hour or two doing that when I could spend 10 minutes flashing SU in twrp? Also, when 4.4 came out, I found myself checking the forum daily for a new root exploit, reading up on things, and overall just being very anxious for it. Again, that's time I could have spent doing other things if I had had the DE.
Thus, as it has been with many other decisions in my life, I will have to go the path of function over form. I am pretty set on getting the DE now (unless in the next couple days a Droid 5 is confirmed XD miss my physical keyboard). I'll just get that SUPCASE that was posted above, as I think the black/black variant looks rather nice, and will cover up the white that I don't like. Plus, there's an excuse for protecting my phone, eh?
Even if I just end up running Eclipse on it anyway, I think I like knowing that when 4.4.2 and eventually other versions of android come out, I will be able to root immediately and easily. And if custom roms continue to make progress, I'll have those options as well.
Plus, I was also reading there's a tutorial for removing the backplate, and backplates have shown up on ebay.
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I got a Moto Maker version, and while I love the phone, I do sorta regret not getting a Dev Edition. I haven't bothered to root my phone, since this phone is so fantastic on its own (and I figured out how to restore app data), but it would be nice to unlock the bootloader in case I wanted to try some ROMs.
That being said, personally, I think stock Moto X is superior to CyanogenMod (which I have on other devices). And there isn't any real bloatware (since you can always Disable it).
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Hi there - I have a DE on the way and my wife has a Moto Maker on the way. What's the best way to restore app data on an MM device?
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Hi there - I have a DE on the way and my wife has a Moto Maker on the way. What's the best way to restore app data on an MM device?
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Here is my article in how to restore without root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604423
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MikeyNick said:
t's not challenging, just time consuming. Why spend an hour or two doing that when I could spend 10 minutes flashing SU in twrp?
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If it takes "you" an hour or two to root this phone, it's probably best that "you" not attempt it yourself. It's as simple as downloading a few files, reading some instructions, then typing them in letter for letter.
If you have enough time to browse and post on this forum, you have enough time to root this device. Took me all of 15 mins.
rsage said:
Hi there - I have a DE on the way and my wife has a Moto Maker on the way. What's the best way to restore app data on an MM device?
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Moto Migrate.
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Moto Migrate.
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As far as I know, MM only migrates photos, videos, texts, calls, etc., but not app data like saved games, shared preferences, etc. I could be wrong, haven't tried it
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If it takes "you" an hour or two to root this phone, it's probably best that "you" not attempt it yourself. It's as simple as downloading a few files, reading some instructions, then typing them in letter for letter.
If you have enough time to browse and post on this forum, you have enough time to root this device. Took me all of 15 mins.
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Unless "you" simply look at commands and then type them, i don't think that's a 15 minute process. I think it is safe to assume that a majority of people like to understand the risk of a new root exploit. You're telling me when the telnet exploit came out for the very first time, it took you 15 minutes? I for one like to read about the potential risks, how the exploit works (best to stay informed, eh?), others' experiences with it thus far, etc. I don't think that's an atypical pattern. Yea, now that I've read about it and already know it, I can brush through a re-root quite quickly, but unless you're just going into a blind I don't think running a new exploit is a 15 minute process in most cases.
Sorry if that sounded a little disgruntled. I just couldn't help but get a "you don't seem good enough to muss about with your phone" vibe from that. Perhaps I should have been a little more particular, and mentioned that i was thinking more along the lines of the first time you run a new root exploit.
I battled myself on this for a while and ended up going with the dev edition. I couldn't decide on what color scheme I wanted so I said f it and went dev.
Note 2 N3BULIZED!
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I battled myself on this for a while and ended up going with the dev edition. I couldn't decide on what color scheme I wanted so I said f it and went dev.
Note 2 N3BULIZED!
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Haven't ordered yet, and now maybe reconsidering all together after the lenovo news.
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Haven't ordered yet, and now maybe reconsidering all together after the lenovo news.
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The Lenovo deal wouldn't stop me. I went through the IBM PC division sold to Lenovo, and have been using Thinkpads since about 1995. They haven't screwed up the Thinkpads after all this time, so I'm hopeful they don't screw up the Moto devices.
Yea, I've been doing a lot of reading on it. Strong arguments on both sides. Either way, I suppose even if they do muss about with stuff, we'll definitely get 4.4.2. Who knows if future updates might have some bloat on them, or how long it'll take to get them. But with the developer edition, I guess that's much less of a concern. Plus, considering how popular this phone has been, it's hard to believe anyone would want to drop good support for it.
Still have till the third to decide, since that's when my code is valid through XD
So I now have an upgrade available for my Verizon Wireless account. I have mulled over waiting for the X2 love enough and with the rave reviews I always see for the Moto X (minus the camera), I'm pulling the trigger. Have a few questions first. Asked on another thread but nobody addressed my questions.
1. I would like to have root for Root Call Blocker and Greenify but have read that there is no root for new phones unless it's a developer edition, correct?
2. If question one is correct, am I able to use my upgrade (which makes the phone one cent) towards the price of the dev edition, or would I have to pay the full amount for the dev edition X?
3. For those that have had experience with the wood backs, do you have any positive or negatives that are noteworthy? I have found that there is a brand that makes wood cases so maybe a wood back isn't necessary. I just think it's so unique. Haven't seen one in person though. Maybe they look crappy in person for all I know. From the pictures it just makes this beautiful device even more appealing.
4. Is the X wireless charging compatible?
Can't think of any other questions at this time. I'd probably get the 32 gig. Open to any other issues good or bad that I am not aware of.
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Jersey846 said:
So I now have an upgrade available for my Verizon Wireless account. I have mulled over waiting for the X2 love enough and with the rave reviews I always see for the Moto X (minus the camera), I'm pulling the trigger. Have a few questions first. Asked on another thread but nobody addressed my questions.
1. I would like to have root for Root Call Blocker and Greenify but have read that there is no root for new phones unless it's a developer edition, correct?
2. If question one is correct, am I able to use my upgrade (which makes the phone one cent) towards the price of the dev edition, or would I have to pay the full amount for the dev edition X?
3. For those that have had experience with the wood backs, do you have any positive or negatives that are noteworthy? I have found that there is a brand that makes wood cases so maybe a wood back isn't necessary. I just think it's so unique. Haven't seen one in person though. Maybe they look crappy in person for all I know. From the pictures it just makes this beautiful device even more appealing.
4. Is the X wireless charging compatible?
Can't think of any other questions at this time. I'd probably get the 32 gig. Open to any other issues good or bad that I am not aware of.
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1. Correct. A retail Verizon will probably come with 4.4.2 now and it can't be rooted.
2. No, I'm pretty sure you have to buy the dev edition outright. Well worth it in my opinion.
3. Not sure, sorry.
4. No built in wireless charging. Tho a few have opened it up, did some soldering and made it work. Bye bye warranty tho.
Hope that helps!
Very helpful thanks so much. Just pulled the trigger on the X. Very excited!
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Jersey846 said:
Very helpful thanks so much. Just pulled the trigger on the X. Very excited!
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Which one?
kj2112 said:
Which one?
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I went ahead and got the discount through Verizon. 32 gig version since there's no SD slot. Only cost me $50 so that seemed pretty good. It was a tough decision because I really wanted root, but I will just have to bite the bullet for the money I'm saving. I'll keep my fingers crossed that somehow the X I created through the Moto Maker site hasn't been updated to KitKat. Slim chances I know, but that's what I did. If it somehow hasn't been updated to 4.4.2, is there any way for me to prevent it from automatically updating when I receive it and root? All I need is root. Don't need to unlock my bootloader as I won't be installing any custom roms. Unless this is one of those devices that you need both to have one or the other. I think my Nexus7 was like that.
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You have a 0.1% chance that it won't be pre-installed with 4.4.2.
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DroidOnRoids said:
You have a 0.1% chance that it won't be pre-installed with 4.4.2.
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So you're saying there's a chance! Lol!
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Jersey846 said:
So you're saying there's a chance! Lol!
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A very very slim chance. Good luck though.
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A very very slim chance. Good luck though.
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Yeah I'm not banking on it.
Love Muscle Pharm Assault Btw.
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Jersey846 said:
Yeah I'm not banking on it.
Love Muscle Pharm Assault Btw.
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You can keep an eye on the MiddleMan thread, and can hope your X is a winner, if you're willing to spend the money for a forever-unlocked X :victory:
Update: just saw you were already posting over there, good luck either way
Weischadle said:
You can keep an eye on the MiddleMan thread, and can hope your X is a winner, if you're willing to spend the money for a forever-unlocked X :victory:
Update: just saw you were already posting over there, good luck either way
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Yup keeping an eye out! Thanks man! Definitely hope I am able to hook it up when my phone comes in!
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I don't know about Call Blocker, but you don't need root to use the basic function of Greenify. It can't automatically hibernate apps in the background, but it can automate hibernating of all running apps manually. It have a widget so I just put the widget on my dock and press it once a while.
As for woodback, save your money and get the nonslip material, which is more comfortable and grippy to hold. I believe if it fell, the dents will be less visible compared to woodbacks as well. The woodbacks are nice looking, but is more slippy. Also they aren't real wood (some people say the bamboo version is real wood but it didn't seem that way when I had it). You could get adhesive real wood back from toastmade.com which I think is higher quality, but it will add more bulk to the phone and is not comfortable to hold unless you sand down the edges.
Also the app Helium for backing up apps data doesn't need root to work.
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If it somehow hasn't been updated to 4.4.2, is there any way for me to prevent it from automatically updating when I receive it and root?
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Once you're rooted you can freeze the Android Update service. This will stop it checking for OTAs.
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I don't know about Call Blocker, but you don't need root to use the basic function of Greenify. It can't automatically hibernate apps in the background, but it can automate hibernating of all running apps manually. It have a widget so I just put the widget on my dock and press it once a while.
As for woodback, save your money and get the nonslip material, which is more comfortable and grippy to hold. I believe if it fell, the dents will be less visible compared to woodbacks as well. The woodbacks are nice looking, but is more slippy. Also they aren't real wood (some people say the bamboo version is real wood but it didn't seem that way when I had it). You could get adhesive real wood back from toastmade.com which I think is higher quality, but it will add more bulk to the phone and is not comfortable to hold unless you sand down the edges.
Also the app Helium for backing up apps data doesn't need root to work.
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The last time I used Greenify on a non-rooted device it was a bit time consuming. Everything had to be done manually unless I was doing something wrong. Or maybe it's better now from what you're saying. That'd be nice.
I did not get the woodback. I figured if I wanted a wood back I could always get one of the few wood cases or backs later. Toast Back was the exact one I saw that gave me confidence that I should get the regular back. I'm very happy.
And if I don't end up with root I will DEFINITELY be checking out Helium, thanks!
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Helium not working on X yet. I have a link in my sigi.
I have both the T-Mobile and AT&T version with 4.4.2, no root, both have Helium working without problems. Check your drivers.
eksasol said:
I have both the T-Mobile and AT&T version with 4.4.2, no root, both have Helium working without problems. Check your drivers.
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Is that premium?
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Is that premium?
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I just use the free version. What I did is:
-Install Motorola driver: http://download.clockworkmod.com/drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.32_Driver_5.4.0.exe
-Run Helium on the phone and run Helium PC program: http://www.clockworkmod.com/carbon
-Connect the phone to PC, then the Helium app will ask to enable USB Debugging
-In a moment after enabling USB Debugging, a window will pop up asking to allow ADB permission for the PC, if the permission window doesn't pop up, unplug and replug the phone
-In a few seconds you should see a green check in the Helium PC app
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I just use the free version. What I did is:
-Install Motorola driver: http://download.clockworkmod.com/drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.32_Driver_5.4.0.exe
-Run Helium on the phone and run Helium PC program: http://www.clockworkmod.com/carbon
-Connect the phone to PC, then the Helium app will ask to enable USB Debugging
-In a moment after enabling USB Debugging, a window will pop up asking to allow ADB permission for the PC, if the permission window doesn't pop up, unplug and replug the phone
-In a few seconds you should see a green check in the Helium PC app
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Awesome thanks man!
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It is entirely too unweildy for me for everyday usage.
Basic things like it not fitting in the cup holder or the dedicated cellphone pocket in my truck, not to mention being very afraid of dropping it because of the slick sides and back.
1" smaller and I'd be in love (that's not what she said)
roadratx said:
It is entirely too unweildy for me for everyday usage.
Basic things like it not fitting in the cup holder or the dedicated cellphone pocket in my truck, not to mention being very afraid of dropping it because of the slick sides and back.
1" smaller and I'd be in love (that's not what she said)
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The Nexus 5 sounds like it would be the perfect device for you. It will give you the Nexus experience, runs on Lollipop now, early updates, and it is still officially supported by Google. I upgraded my Nexus 5 to Lollipop and runs great on it. Unfortunately now, it is retired to its box as a backup
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The Nexus 5 sounds like it would be the perfect device for you. It will give you the Nexus experience, runs on Lollipop now, early updates, and it is still officially supported by Google. I upgraded my Nexus 5 to Lollipop and runs great on it. Unfortunately now, it is retired to its box as a backup
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Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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It is entirely too unweildy for me for everyday usage.
Basic things like it not fitting in the cup holder or the dedicated cellphone pocket in my truck, not to mention being very afraid of dropping it because of the slick sides and back.
1" smaller and I'd be in love (that's not what she said)
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Why not get a new truck?
Witek_M said:
Why not get a new truck?
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and he can upgrade his dainty girly hands lol
PaisanNYC said:
The Nexus 5 sounds like it would be the perfect device for you. It will give you the Nexus experience, runs on Lollipop now, early updates, and it is still officially supported by Google. I upgraded my Nexus 5 to Lollipop and runs great on it. Unfortunately now, it is retired to its box as a backup
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My nexus 5 is also back in its original box.
Since you are with Verizon, why not get the Droid Turbo? Seems like a solid upgrade from the Moto X (2013) and it's easily one of the best phones you can get on Verizon.
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Since you are with Verizon, why not get the Droid Turbo? Seems like a solid upgrade from the Moto X (2013) and it's easily one of the best phones you can get on Verizon.
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I would highly advise against this. The turbo has a ton of bugs as of right now. May become better over time but it is a flawed device.
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Ironkidz said:
I would highly advise against this. The turbo has a ton of bugs as of right now. May become better over time but it is a flawed device.
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Bugs such as what? Linus released a video and his biggest complaint was the camera with moving action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIInLiej680&list=UUXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw
Although, I will say this... if development such as ROM or kernel development is important then Droid Turbo is not the way to go because Verizon devices tend to be very locked down (with the exception of Nexus devices... but then again VZW proved us wrong on the Galaxy Nexus and released no details about N6 yet other that they're having it on their network)
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Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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I'm in okc. Would you be willing to ship? If we do it over PayPal there is a claims resolution. I've used it to get back cash from a crappy sale. I think this is how it goes.
1. I pay you over PayPal
2. You ship with signature confirmation to prove shipment and protect yourself.
We could also use Google wallet if you prefer, but i don't know how that might work.
zephiK said:
Bugs such as what? Linus released a video and his biggest complaint was the camera with moving action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIInLiej680&list=UUXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw
Although, I will say this... if development such as ROM or kernel development is important then Droid Turbo is not the way to go because Verizon devices tend to be very locked down (with the exception of Nexus devices... but then again VZW proved us wrong on the Galaxy Nexus and released no details about N6 yet other that they're having it on their network)
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Screen brightness is terrible, speaker volume is a joke, battery life is abysmal, quick charging is as fast as regular charging, phone gets ridiculously hot, some users including myself and on the Verge experience terrible screen scrolling lag, you can't remove the Google search bar which is persistent on every screen, camera is very slow.
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You can't remove the Google search bar which is persistent on every screen
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It's been this way in stock Android since Jelly Bean, so nothing new...I actually like having it
roadratx said:
Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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what color is it?
Blue 32gb.
roadratx said:
Agreed, except I'm on Verizon.
AT&T and TMo are not sufficient for my coverage needs.
Back to my Moto X (2013) for now.
Hopefully, they release a "N6 Minus" (hahaha)
If anyone in Houston wants a 1 day old N6, I'll happily sell it at cost rather than return it to Google Play.
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The Nexus 6 mini is already out. It's the Moto X (2014)
Did you buy through Motorola or the play store? Why not get your money back and buy the new moto x outright. Sounds like exactly what you're wanting from the nexus, plus it got lollipop already before any other carrier version. What bizarre world did I wake up in today?
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