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[Q] Gorilla Glass = who said its unscratchable!?

Hey y'all
i have an at&t Samsung Captivate,
its really a great phone,i also use an Samsung Wave which has the same
Spec and the same glass.
i have the Captivate for 2 days and allready have scratches,really tiny one's.
i used the Samsung Wave for 6 month's and dont have 1 scratch at all!
how can it be?? the same glass (the Wave's glass feel's much more thicker then the Captivate's glass)

buy a cheap screen protector on ebay if you do care ...

I don't think that anyone said it was 'unscratchable'. If they did, they don't know what they were talking about, I mean Corning doesn't even claim that:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/characteristics
It is more resistant to large scratches and pitting because it's produced more like a ceramic composite than soda glass.
Little scratches won't impact functionality, but I'm surprised people don't use cases and screen protectors these days. I have a full body ZAGG AND an Otterbox Commuter on mine. I find even the silicone cases can rub the finish off of phones a little bit.

The thickness of the glass won't affect how well it resists scratching. It should help prevent it from cracking though.
GUARDIANBD said:
(the Wave's glass feel's much more thicker then the Captivate's glass)
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I beat the living crap out of my phone when its in my pocket (change, keys, etc..) and my screen is fine. You putting it in your pocket with sand paper or something?
And I agree this thing is a bit slippery if it doesn't have a case on it.. but the one I had was too bulky.

I don't have a screen protector, I don't have a case. Had a screen protector, it was alright, but I removed it; prefer the feel of the naked glass. I would not even consider destroying the sleekness of my phone by putting it in some gross case.
I have a pocket that's dedicated to my phone. I don't drop it. I clean the screen with a fog of breath on the left shoulder of whatever sweatshirt I'm wearing. It has no scratches and is pure as hell.
My general theory is that if you don't want to treat your phone well and want it jangling around in backpacks, laptop cases and/or and pockets full of junk, by all means cover it up. Otherwise, treat it well and you won't have to worry.

just orderd ZAGG screen protector (10$) and Otterbox (13$) for the Captivate via Ebay
hope it works...

GUARDIANBD said:
just orderd ZAGG screen protector (10$) and Otterbox (13$) for the Captivate via Ebay
hope it works...
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what were you doing to that phone, had mine for a long time and the screen is still in mint condition, and i cant stand screen protectors, so its a good thing this screen is tough

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what were you doing to that phone, had mine for a long time and the screen is still in mint condition, and i cant stand screen protectors, so its a good thing this screen is tough
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nothing...just sitting in my pocket without any sharp thingys :\

I have had 2 captivates. One with a full Zagg which covers every inch of the phone with clear plastic of some kind, and just the screen protector on the other.
I have ORD (Obsessive Romming Disease and can be found on this site if you need to admit your disorder, lmao) and the full skin started peeling off because I was taking it out of my case so much. The screen protector itself is not completely smooth or very slick, but it seems that small scratches seem to repair themselves. I am a pipefitter so that should tell you how rough I am on phones hanging on my pocket everyday. weld splatter, dust, dirt, scrapes, rolled over on, so it must be a tough phone. I had to replace the other one because of the random shutdown issue of Captivates made before November.
My Captivate is so fast I need a seatbelt!!!
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Do I need to buy a screen protector?

I will have this phone in two weeks. Do I need a clear screen protector? Or does it stay looking relatively good?

I also just got this phone and I think you should get one. Better safe than sorry. As this scree. Isn't gorilla glass so I won't really take my chances. In my old captivate and even my i9000 I had one.
Always a good practice and keeps resale value higher when screen is mint.

i've had it since launch day with no screen protector in my pocket, no scratches, same with my two previous phones none of which had gorilla glass

I vote no screen protector but don't put it in your trouser pocket with a bunch of keys and then sit down - the screen cracks

I don't use a screen protector for the protective qualities, but rather for the antifingerprint features, just makes the device look cleaner, repels glare as well.

You can answer this question yourself. Did you have a screen protector on your previous phone (with glass display)? If not, did you feel safe? If yes, don't buy one for the Nexus S. One screen doesn't scratch faster than another. Gorilla Glass maybe helps a little, but it's there to prevent cracking, not scratches.
Keep in mind that the Nexus S has a curved display. This actually DOES help a lot to prevent scratches, a lot more than Gorilla Glass.

This screen isn't like old ones. Most previous android phones didn't have an oleophobic coating which is far easier to scratch and wear off than the screen itself.
Just take a look at any iPhone 4 that's been used... there will be lots of little micro scratches in the coating but not the actual screen.
Androyed said:
You can answer this question yourself. Did you have a screen protector on your previous phone (with glass display)? If not, did you feel safe? If yes, don't buy one for the Nexus S. One screen doesn't scratch faster than another. Gorilla Glass maybe helps a little, but it's there to prevent cracking, not scratches.
Keep in mind that the Nexus S has a curved display. This actually DOES help a lot to prevent scratches, a lot more than Gorilla Glass.
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I have the full body Zagg one ... i like it..

anything that's going to scratch the screen is probably going to crack it. Although it's not gorilla glass it's pretty tough. i've dropped my phone numerous times face-first, and thanks to the curved display, not one scratch....
however the back is another story. I have numerous large scratches on it... so if you need any protection get a cover. don't worry so much about the screen. i hate those plastic coatings anyway....

well...
I personally like a SP just because, hey, you just dropped some $ on a relatively pricey piece of equipment.
also it depends, do you have one of those nifty belt carrier thingys??? or do you rock it in the pocket, personally my phone stays in my pocket (I should really look into one of those nice padded carriers lol) Its all preference and just how hard on that phone youre gunna be man.

Thanks for all the feedback. I only carry my phone in my pocket. I hate those enclosed cases as aesthetics are important to me too and the cases always make it look clumps. I have never had a clear screen protector before and don't think I'll have one now. Thanks again!

Like most of the people told, I was against a screen proctector. But after using the NS for 1 week, I have noticed 3-4 round oily marks on the screen which I was not able to remove. Then I had to go and replace the handset and had the screen guard purchased right away.

I usually use a screen protector on any phone for:
1. Peace of mind
2. Fingers seem to glide on them easier than bare glass.

koottan said:
Like most of the people told, I was against a screen proctector. But after using the NS for 1 week, I have noticed 3-4 round oily marks on the screen which I was not able to remove. Then I had to go and replace the handset and had the screen guard purchased right away.
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Really - oily stains that wouldn't come out? Has anyone else had that issue?
I have a HTC hero I've had a year, no idea what type of screen it is. Aside from finger prints on the screen, thats all that ever happened to it. No scratches or anything!

I did get one but took it off after a while.
Sine the screen has anti fingerprints and is A LOT smoother without a "protector" I choose to take the risk of getting it scratched.
I thought like this. If I have a protector and it gets scratched I still be walking around with a phone with scratches, unless I change me protector shield. But yeah if you get a good protector Shield, I suppose my argument is not valid. Anyways get 2 if you find anything decent !

just got my phantom skinz in the mail for my new nexus s 4g. cannot wait to actually use the phone when i get it this week.

[REVIEW] Skinomi Tech Glass™ Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Full Coverage Screen Protector

I know most of us (if not all) keep looking for that perfect tempered glass screen protector for our phones (not to mention that it has to be curved of course).
Today I received my Skinomi Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge tempered glass screen protector, and I'd be more than happy in sharing my review of the product.
Packaging:
Packaging is retail. I pre-ordered from their website directly (rather not deal with Amazon), and I got a cool coupon that saved me 25% .
What comes included is your screen protector, fiber cloth, alcohol cleaning cloth and dust lifter screen.
Installation:
I'm going to be completely honest here; This is my first time installing a tempered glass screen protector. Much less a dry installation. I've always used invisible shield for my previous devices so I was expecting a hassle. This was by far the easiest installation I've ever done. Super easy!
Fit:
The fit is not as great as I'd expect it to be. It doesn't cover the phone fully on the edges, you can still see some small space that's left uncovered (I've attached pictures for your leisure). I'm sure that I've installed it as best as humanely possible (actually quite proud of that haha).
The capacitive buttons on the bottom or probably my main issue; The cover completely warps them. The cutouts on the glass protector don't match the cutouts on the phone itself. This causes the buttons to look weird and warped when they light up. I personally don't care (now if this is a mistake and someone from Skinomi is reading this, then please reach out!), the case does what it's supposed to do, but I feel that it makes the fact you have a glass protector on your phone obvious.
Feel:
The protector feels great, you really can't tell there's something on top of your screen. Touch sensibility is weird around the middle towards the left edge on my particular protector (I do have to press slightly harder in order to get a response), but I'm having that after 24 hours that problem clears out.
Final thoughts:
I actually like the protector overall. It's not bad for the price I payed (although I was expecting a better fit for the buttons and a better fit around the screen itself). I'm guessing that as long as the screen protector doesn't come off like the Spigen one I would consider myself happy.
I know the pictures are not the greatest, but If you guys want better ones or different angles or something just let me know!
Hope this helps!

Are those glittery specks permanent?

Graffiti Exploit said:
Are those glittery specks permanent?
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Yes they are.

I own this as well. My personal take on this is 7/10. Only thing that bothers me is the edges.... How they aren't as sensitive
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Mikeonic said:
I own this as well. My personal take on this is 7/10. Only thing that bothers me is the edges.... How they aren't as sensitive
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Exactly my thoughts. If the edges were more sensitive, I wouldn't care about the rest.

I'm very impressed with this tempered glass. SGP use to be my favorite for all my devices but I'll start considering Skinomi tempered glass going forward.
There are some sensitivity issues on the left side but hopefully that will go away once the glass settles in and will report back if it does or doesn't go away later in the week. What I mean is that I would have to press harder than normal.
Here is a pic with the glass before installation. I just realized I still had the clear plastic covering my lens after I took this picture and will add a few more pictures with it being installed once I borrow a colleagues camera phone.
It looks so beautiful once installed and no bubbles like the SGP curved one. TBH, hyped went away once I started to get sensitivity issues on the left hand side and hopefully it will go away after a few days.
EDIT: after re-aligning the glass, I don't have any sensitivity issues anymore. You might have to re-aligning it a few times if you're off. Don't worry, you won't lose any stickyness. This tempered glass is worth buying IMHO.

Is it really necessary to have a screen protector?

I've had my Note 8 for 9 days now and while I was thinking about buying a screen protector when it arrived, I must admit that I'm quite impressed by the quality of the screen. It just feels so hard to scratch, so much so that one would probably struggle trying to scratch it even on purpose. I don't really see myself scratching it by accident anytime soon, although I must admit I'm this kind of guy who never drops the phone and handles it with extreme care.
I'm just curious to read what you guys think, maybe somebody persuades me to buy a screen protector after all, who knows.

The Gorilla Glass 5 is more shatter-resistant than previous versions and that means it is softer also. I had my Note 7 only a few days before it started picking up micro scratches on the front and back. Your mileage may vary. I'm putting on a Whitestone done and a skin on the back of mine.

I bought a screen protector but am debating putting it on. I may try it and see how it goes

Many of us do fine with no protection. Others report getting scratches no matter how hard they try not to.

I've always put a protector on my previous phones but I'm using my Note 8 without a screen protector. Like you, I'm always very careful with my phone and never drop it. The pocket that I put my phone in only contains my phone; I never put loose change or key in there. My Spigen Slim Armor case protects most of the phone and keeps the screen off the table surface if I do put it face down. With all of the issues people have had with curved tempered glass screen protectors, it just seems like more hassle than it's worth. The only one I'd get is the Whitestone Dome but that costs $60 here. Bit pricey.

I always run a protectors. Better safe then sorry.
I take very good care of my stuff. If a scratch did happen you cant take it back. So there would be no way ti fit it without buying a no front glass or new phone.
With a protector you can simply remove it and put on another one.

Fwiw, 5 days and i have a scratch, no clue where it came from. Have never used screen protectors, but will now
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It's def worth it. On my S8 there was a scratch after few days and I am very careful about my phone so really don't know how it happened.

Same here...it is so minor and you cannot even feel it. Babied it too. Also a small one on the back and it had a case day 1. Something tells me it came like that

Going naked for now. Just watch out for sand, fine sand , seems to be the only thing. If it was a flat screen I would have tempered glass on it.
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ANY sharp instrument will scratch if the point is pressed in to the display, period. It is MUCH easier to bang on it with a long blade edge and look like you did nothing than the tip of an x-acto knife. That is what those demos do. Resisting attack across a large area is really what you are seeing. Keys are small like that etc...
Finally, a big part of Gorilla Glass is that it also HIDES or better put doesnt show minor damage as much as other glass. In other words, its there you just don't see it.
I bet a screen for this will be $300-$400. How much is a protector that looks good?

Better safe than sorry. Once it's scratched it would bug the hell out of me. It's a £1000 device.

Throw a screen protector on it. In time, micro-scratches will appear on your screen if you dont!

Note FE, had it on the ironing board (and forgot about it). Folded the ironing board and it very gently slid down it onto the floor face down....very gently....resulted in a 7mm scratch.
Not got one on this yet but it does highlight how pathetically weak GG5 is.

I put one on from iq shield...works great with my ringke wave

Since its a huge pain to find a glass protector that fits and doesn't screw up touch sensitivity I just grabbed the $8 Skinomi wet install protector, works great including with the edge display and S-Pen.

I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.

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I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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But if it still looks like a scratch....

I personally really don't get the mentality of people who put huges cases and screen protectors on their phones. Most people here are obsessive on having 'the latest' and upgrade yearly when new stuff comes out so they can have the nicest, thinnest, prettiest shiny piece of hardware - Then they go wrap it all up in a thick rubber/plastic case and make it look sh*t. Why buy a device with no bezel if you're gonna put a huge thick case bezel around it!
I've had all my smartphones without cases/screen protectors as that's how they're meant to be and to honest I look after my devices. I usually get 2 year contracts on phones and at the end of 2 years, worst case, a few micro scratches on the screen - That's it. Do these guys bubble wrap their cars? It's a phone, it's designed to be used, it'll get the odd small scratch, just enjoy it for what it is IMO.

I have dropped my Pixel XL and the screen protector cracked but the screen was fine. Same on my Nexus 6. Dropped it on it's face from about 5' and the screen protector cracked all over it but the screen remained crack free. I fell that a glass screen protector takes the abuse of a drop. Granted, I've never dropped a phone with a screen protector so not sure if they would have cracked the screen without a protector but to me, It used to be relatively cheap protection. Some of the better protectors are 40+ now so it's not as easy a decision as it used to be for me.

beyond frustrated please help with a screen protector see below..

I've tried plastic, wet install, and glass..... Glass was the best in terms of clarity but much more of a finger print magnet than the original glass underneath. And more reflective... The wet install one showed the spent marks.. At this rate I'll spend more on screen protectors than a replacement screen.... Please send your recommendations. Thanks

Lol. There are like 10 screen protector threads here already !
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Dejan Sathanas said:
Lol. There are like 10 screen protector threads here already !
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But a lot of people are just looking for protection.... I am looking for more...

magichoward said:
I've tried plastic, wet install, and glass..... Glass was the best in terms of clarity but much more of a finger print magnet than the original glass underneath. And more reflective... The wet install one showed the spent marks.. At this rate I'll spend more on screen protectors than a replacement screen.... Please send your recommendations. Thanks
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Feel your pain. I've done all what you have except for trying the glass ones.
Here is my experience. Get wet applied plastic one that is harder than the usual wet applied ones. A person on another thread recommend a Walmart Onn brand , I used it and it didn't leave S Pen marks at all. However, it was a ***** to fit correctly, so I being OCD I removed it and went back to the usual wet applied one again that does leave S Pen marks.
I believe Tech21 makes a screen protector similar in characteristics as the Walmart ONN one . Ain't tried that yet. But I can tell you that if the the Walmart ONN screen protector was applied correctly then I'd still be a fan.
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But a lot of people are just looking for protection.... I am looking for more...
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So your criteria would be: best protection available without fingerprints, reflections, or s-pen marks? Might be tough without compromising a bit on one of those aspects. I've tried 2 cheap glass ones that I took off immediately, the Spigen film protectors that leave s-pen marks, and the Whitestone Dome which which was best for me of the bunch (no s-pen marks of course, and no fingerprint issues so far. Haven't paid attention to reflection issues as of yet). The new Zagg glass looks promising too...ymmv

I like Skinomi. You get some s pen marks but they go away overnight. I use the spen alot too, it's my preferred way to interact with the screen.

Go naked and live with it. I have been there, where you say to be and feel your pain. I just gave up and live with it. In case I really manage to break or badly scratch it, I will have to get a new one or live with it. All is better than the smudgy protectors giving a bad feeling to the touch and a bad view.

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Go naked and live with it. I have been there, where you say to be and feel your pain. I just gave up and live with it. In case I really manage to break or badly scratch it, I will have to get a new one or live with it. All is better than the smudgy protectors giving a bad feeling to the touch and a bad view.
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I'm so close to doing that but I live by the beach worried about scratches more than dropping it..

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I'm so close to doing that but I live by the beach worried about scratches more than dropping it..
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Beach and sand indeed is an issue. I do not live on the beach but was there last summer (S8+, no pen, easier situation) and was so glad to have a film protector on it.
Bite the bullet and get a Whitestone dome?

If I may offer an alternative suggestion? I did not even want to risk the screen protector lottery on this phone, so I took a different approach.
I have used a case with a built-in screen protector. I feel it gives me the best of both worlds; ultimate protection from drops and screen damage when out and about, and in a couple of seconds (when at home and the soft safety of my sofa), it can be out of its case and back to a slippery naked unblemished masterpiece.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/i-Blason-Galaxy-Note-Protection-Reduction/dp/B074W3WBVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516792422&sr=8-1&keywords=i-blason+note+8
Cons:
Minor reduction in finger sensitivity at the edges.
Adds significant bulk, especially in width making one-handed use impractical
Screen protector picks up scratches after a few months
Wearing polarised sunglasses makes screen hard to see (rainbow effect)
Be certain inside of screen cover is clear of grit before fitting
Pros:
Zero reduction in S Pen sensitivity.
Phone is tank-like. Has survived drops onto solid concrete no problem.
Screen protector can be popped out and used just as case if desired.
Dust caps for charging and headphone sockets
Easy to take off and have naked phone
It all balances out IMO. It might not be a perfect solution, but it is mine and I am happy with it.

I would advise against it, especially in a sandy environment. It WILL find a way in and then have a party with your screen. Also, in my personal opinion, this is way too bulky.
Personally, I am using a pitaka case. I am also having a thin, blank film on the back because ofscrarch protecting the back.

i'm using the official one for S8+ and it's very good, the s-pen does not leave any mark

I have used all types and found my favorite to be the tech21. No sensitivity issues, screen is clear, no spen marks, and decent with dealing with fingerprints. I couldn't use another after using this one.

Wouldn't it be just nice if Samsung offered a factory glass screen protector as an option when buying these devices. I'm sure they are aware of customers concerns - surely they have the technology to be able to do this, albeit probably not financially viable hence no go.
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