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Hi,
Just wanted to ask if there is a connection between the proximity sensor getting covered and the screen losing touch? Since I have applied a screen guard that cover the whole screen and it's a very thin one
brapicoco said:
Hi,
Just wanted to ask if there is a connection between the proximity sensor getting covered and the screen losing touch? Since I have applied a screen guard that cover the whole screen and it's a very thin one
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Which sensor are you refering to, the light sensor?
EDIT: I thing is not the same but I really do not know where this sensor is.
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Maybe this help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyM2WKkVnjI
Well I do not know actually what should I say. Everything about this phone was amazing me until I discovered by the mere chance whilst sitting under light and screen was off that there are some tiny scratches within my fingerprints on the places of typing on the keyboard and I type normally and never used my nails or the spen while chatting. It looks like some stuck stains or more like internal scratches rather than actual scratches. When I cleaned the screen hoping that this would go off I was very happy because when the screen was cleaned, these so called non removable stains or internal scratches never appeared but after chatting for a few while and checking it back under light within my fingerprints, i saw them. Im a little bit perfectionist and this issue is really minor but I would like to hear your experiences.
With all due respect.
Sooo you are complaining about fingerprints on your phone that wipe off?
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DAvid_B said:
Sooo you are complaining about fingerprints on your phone that wipe off?
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I thought the same thing about this post then I decided to take a look at my screen under bright light, and sure enough there are tiny micro scratches in the areas where you use the keyboard and even one in the dead center of the screen. This phone hasn't been dropped or abused and I have had it less than a week. Go look in a very bright light source (screen off, angle the screen towards a light bulb or other bright light source) and I bet you find scratches all over yours too. They are not noticeable with general use but wow, what gives gorilla glass 4?
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Update: It bothered me enough to see those tiny scratches that I just went and got a glass screen protector from the Verizon store. Now, after installation the microscratches cannot be seen and no more will develop. Peace of mind, but that is bothersome.
Yeah I've always had a screen protector on all my phones from day one. Bought this phone on a whim and ordered some cases from amazon a few days later. I thought gorilla glass was super tough, but I noticed micro scratches under bright light and decided to install the free screen protectors that came with the cases just to have something on that better than nothing. Normally I take the phone straight to ghost armor and have them install one.
If you are running without a screen protector I seriously suggest that you get one. Judging by how fast the screen got scratched. It may be really noticeable within a few months time
this make no sense,note 4 had it and note 8 doesnt,im from nyc,and its cold im on gloves and this feature didnt need to be taken out
1000 usd phone and doesn't have that feature.smh
can a op and developer make a zip or some way to get it on the note 8?
different type of touch sensor. note4 was pressure sensitive i believe(i COULD be wrong here). N8 isnt.
The note 8 is capacitive not resistive. And I would certainly hope so for $1000
Just buy gloves with screen touch fingertips
me2151 said:
different type of touch sensor. note4 was pressure sensitive i believe(i COULD be wrong here). N8 isnt.
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So if note 8 isn't pressure sensitive then how does the press harder on home onscreen button work ?
I was under the impression that it was pressure sensitive.
Zionator said:
So if note 8 isn't pressure sensitive then how does the press harder on home onscreen button work ?
I was under the impression that it was pressure sensitive.
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You are right. My wording was wrong. As another user pointed out. resistive vs capacative
and used to be able to use a pencil on screen....cmon Samsung
Zionator said:
So if note 8 isn't pressure sensitive then how does the press harder on home onscreen button work ?
I was under the impression that it was pressure sensitive.
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There is a pressure sensor only where the home button used to be. Not the entire screen. The touch tech is still capacitive.
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edwardob said:
and used to be able to use a pencil on screen....cmon Samsung
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You know this phone has its own pen right... And im surprised people are unaware of why capacitive is better than resistive. I would be pissed if i bought this device and it had antiquated tech such as a resistive touch screen. If you dont understand why its antiquated, then google it.
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You know this phone has its own pen right... And im surprised people are unaware of why capacitive is better than resistive. I would be pissed if i bought this device and it had antiquated tech such as a resistive touch screen. If you dont understand why its antiquated, then google it.[/QUOTE]
I didn't ask a question...look for information.... merely pointed out... it was possible to use a pencil on note series. .. don't need to Google anything... I'm not looking...
winol said:
Just buy gloves with screen touch fingertips
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Exactly, I was using mine with the little touch sensitive gloves a week or so ago. The setting is gone, because I think it just picks them up automatically. But you have to use the specific gloves (I am not sure honestly what makes them different).
Sent from my note 8...
we talk to we blue to the face and this is bull crap,that should been there,i got friendly gloves but that day i had one that was for a formal event,,now im have to be with this same gloves no matter what.smh
Deezy88 said:
we talk to we blue to the face and this is bull crap,that should been there,i got friendly gloves but that day i had one that was for a formal event,,now im have to be with this same gloves no matter what.smh
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What exactly is hard to understand about capacitive technology? It has nothing to do with pressure. Therefore there is no function to enable. I am surprised that anybody nowadays would buy a flagship and think they even still use resistive. If you didnt understand the tech you where buying, thats your own problem. You cant fault Samsung.
Gizmoe said:
What exactly is hard to understand about capacitive technology? It has nothing to do with pressure. Therefore there is no function to enable. I am surprised that anybody nowadays would buy a flagship and think they even still use resistive. If you didnt understand the tech you where buying, thats your own problem. You cant fault Samsung.
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Yeah the folks that think the screen is resistive are talking out the side of their necks.
The pressure sensitivity of the home button is localized to that location. If you don't believe it check the diagnostic test screen, it has a pressure test and the only part of the screen where it registers is the home button.
The only other pressure is from the pen to the Wacom digitizer..
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edwardob said:
and used to be able to use a pencil on screen....cmon Samsung
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You still can
https://makezine.com/projects/diy-capacitive-stylus/
Well, I think that the OP is talking about a feature that past galaxy notes had, there was a setting to increase screen sensitivity for very cold or wet situations, but now, I think that the tech evolved in a way that such setting is unnecesary now
I think the reason why they removed it is not perfect. You know samsung... If they can't perfect it then they just remove it. The feature is a part of the floating touch technology of capacitive touch screens. But the problem is it fails most of the time when used.
pcriz said:
Yeah the folks that think the screen is resistive are talking out the side of their necks.
The pressure sensitivity of the home button is localized to that location. If you don't believe it check the diagnostic test screen, it has a pressure test and the only part of the screen where it registers is the home button.
The only other pressure is from the pen to the Wacom digitizer..
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You still can
https://makezine.com/projects/diy-capacitive-stylus/
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well that's a bit of work..... use to be able to use a plain old pencil
edwardob said:
well that's a bit of work..... use to be able to use a plain old pencil
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Are you sure you aren't talking about the Xperia Z Ultra?
Jammol said:
Are you sure you aren't talking about the Xperia Z Ultra?
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only had notes... note 4 it was or 5.. plain old pencil
edwardob said:
only had notes... note 4 it was or 5.. plain old pencil
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Isn't that kind of moot since the phone comes with it's own built in stylus?
pcriz said:
Isn't that kind of moot since the phone comes with it's own built in stylus?
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all I said is a pencil used to work with the screen. just did it once..... handy though if you lose pen... and waiting on new one...
My note 7 always worked when I was wearing my prescription sunglasses but not at all with my note 8. whats up with this?
Doesn't work with my regular glasses either...I think it's due to the coatings, anti-glare, computer, etc...its a bummer.
I think there's a software glitch or something. I rescanned my irisis and it was unlocking fine with my regular glasses on... But as soon as I turned on the setting where you don't have to swipe the screen for it to scan your eyes well it quit detecting my eyes with glasses on.
Mine works fine through seeing glasses, contacts, polarized shades.
Try setting your iris unlock up in the dark.
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wjdunn3 said:
Doesn't work with my regular glasses either...I think it's due to the coatings, anti-glare, computer, etc...its a bummer.
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Glare is actually what prevents it from working with glasses. Anti-glare would essentially be a better situation over not having it
pcriz said:
Mine works fine through seeing glasses, contacts, polarized shades.
Try setting your iris unlock up in the dark.
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Glare is actually what prevents it from working with glasses. Anti-glare would essentially be a better situation over not having it
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Well this makes me wonder if there's something wrong with my iris scanner.
Hmm. Well I made my room totally dark and now it's suddenly working with both my regular glasses and prescription sunglasses...
Mine is not working with glasses no matter what I do
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Dbj.Dhaval said:
Mine is not working with glasses no matter what I do
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Check the infra-red LED on the front.
Turn lights off, get another phone with a camera, start camera, point camera at top of Note 8, see if there is a blue (infra-red light) from the top of the phone. Look through the other phones screen obviously.
Wait, so let me get this straight.....
You're trying to do something you're not supposed to be able to do, or are advised not to do, and wondering if something is wrong with your phone because it actually isn't doing It? ?
N10AP said:
Check the infra-red LED on the front.
Turn lights off, get another phone with a camera, start camera, point camera at top of Note 8, see if there is a blue (infra-red light) from the top of the phone. Look through the other phones screen obviously.
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No not getting any light.. Only getting red light during dark when trying to unlock.. Nothing else
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Update: got the glass protector from Sparin and it works just fine. You just have to re-enroll your fingerprints, but it works just as before, no extra pressure or time needed. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RZS5SJ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Found out after I purchased from Amazon (this one in particular: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RDCNWGK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1). Looking at the few other phones that have in-screen fingerprint sensors, it's a common thing. Haven't even seen any old-school plastic screen protectors out for the Z4 yet.
I bought the same ones without the black border and it's been working fine for me. I also got the phone 1 day ago and the screen protectors 5 hours ago so that could change in 2 days lol.
I can confirm these work from Sparin, and also have the correct cutouts for the IR sensors at the top: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RZS5SJ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use these without a problem.
AMAZON
(3 Pack) Supershieldz for Motorola Moto Z4 Tempered Glass Screen Protector, Anti Scratch, Bubble Free
ASIN B07RDCN4DL
(sorry, system would not let me post the link)
Didn't even have to re-scan the fingerprints (I originally scanned w/o the screen protectors).
I've got a Nillkin glass screen protector on mine. It's a bit slow but is works. I mostly use it for authorising payments rather than unlocking the device.
If you look at the moto website for the z4 in the fingerprint section / help, they have some that are "certified" by motorola to work.
griz.droidx said:
If you look at the moto website for the z4 in the fingerprint section / help, they have some that are "certified" by motorola to work.
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That's a pretty slim list. I've had a tempered glass Supershieldz on my Z4 since day one with no FPS problems and it's not on that list. There are enough reviews on Amazon to see which ones work, which ones don't, and which ones are BS reviews.
jbraft said:
That's a pretty slim list. I've had a tempered glass Supershieldz on my Z4 since day one with no FPS problems and it's not on that list. There are enough reviews on Amazon to see which ones work, which ones don't, and which ones are BS reviews.
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Thanks. Yeah I noticed that myself. I have several in wishlist on there including the supershieldz and have read several reviews for screen protectors too. I'd like to have a small glass one for the camera.
I haven't been able to order a case or screen protector yet. I did buy a cheap silicon case originally for an apple iPhone 8+ and a one size fits all screen protector.
I prefer glass protectors too and have one on my S5. I had to get my phone through big red and I've been itching to debloat it using adb. It's just been hard to piece together what can safely be removed.
Have you bought or are you using a case? I really don't want to add a lot of bulk but since I use device when working outside a lot, I need to use a slim one at least.
On the other hand one dropped it twice on my bathroom floor's ceramic tile and haven't found a scratch anywhere even on the corners.
I'll make a post/thread with a list of everything I've debloated when I get home. Phones running great, and haven't had any issues so far. Debloated like 20 things.
Here's a list of everything I ADB debloated, the "not installed for this user".
Thanks man.
slaytanic said:
Here's a list of everything I ADB debloated, the "not installed for this user".
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I am back to update my post on my progress I finally took the time to do it tonight. Thanks for your list.
Looked at your list again mine is nowhere near as pretty.. lol
zander21510 said:
I can confirm these work from Sparin, and also have the correct cutouts for the IR sensors at the top: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RZS5SJ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I, too, have had good success with this screen protector. The glass sensor takes some getting used to, but it is no more susceptible to misreads than the hardware FPS on my Moto Z Force.
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slaytanic said:
I'll make a post/thread with a list of everything I've debloated when I get home. Phones running great, and haven't had any issues so far. Debloated like 20 things.
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Shouldn't this be in a different thread? Not sure what phone you are referring to....
jwhistler said:
I, too, have had good success with this screen protector. The glass sensor takes some getting used to, but it is no more susceptible to misreads than the hardware FPS on my Moto Z Force.
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Shouldn't this be in a different thread? Not sure what phone you are referring to....
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Considering I'm in the Moto Z4 forums, it should be quite obvious what phone I'm talking about. Feel free to look around, there is a whole new thread that was made regarding the debloat. I can post a link for you if you need. ?
I must be confused...I thought this was an accessories thread. My mistake!
So back to screen protectors......
We are fortunate to have a flatter surface, as opposed to Samsung. I personally just decided to go back to film screen protectors. Matte finish looks fantastic.
Can confirm this one works perfectly https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/aw/d/B07RZHVB6T?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image