[Q] 4g version or 3g? - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I was thinking of buying the Moto G 2014, but I was wondering if it is worth to wait for the 4g version.
I personally don't use 4g too much, but I wanted to know if the battery upgrade is noticeable.
Thanks.

Personally I would use the 3g model the battery is horrible (it's not too bad I'm just used to my tablets massive battery ) I'd hate to see the 4g model and 3g is pretty fast anyways

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Should I trade N7000 for BNIB t-mobile One s

I love my n7000 its a fantastic phone alot of development its awesome. on tmobile I only get 2G speeds. since I love my N7000 ive tolerated it. I know a guy that on the April25th that is gonna get a BNIB One s and wants to trade. at first I was a little skeptical because of the snapdragon. after reading all the reviews and watching the videos, even with the snapdragon it seems like a pretty great phone. it would be great cause then I could actually get 4g. then again the screen is smaller not HD and no S pen. I thought about the one x but that would only be 2g too, im thinking hard what do you guys think?
armyms25 said:
I love my n7000 its a fantastic phone alot of development its awesome. on tmobile I only get 2G speeds. since I love my N7000 ive tolerated it. I know a guy that on the April25th that is gonna get a BNIB One s and wants to trade. at first I was a little skeptical because of the snapdragon. after reading all the reviews and watching the videos, even with the snapdragon it seems like a pretty great phone. it would be great cause then I could actually get 4g. then again the screen is smaller not HD and no S pen. I thought about the one x but that would only be 2g too, im thinking hard what do you guys think?
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If you love the Gnote and want T mobile LTE, you can buy the ATT version and then flash a a radio which supports T mobile 3g on it. The ATT Gnote (i717) is 550 without contract, and you should be able to get most of your money back if you sell your N7000. That way you still have your beloved Gnote, and it works on T mobile 3g (and 4g too)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547114
Or you can do what I did and ditch Tmo and get straight talk. I did this coming from T mobile and knowing that the ATT Gnote would support the 1700 mhz band by reading spec sheets. As you may be able to tell, I decided to go with the international version.
Are you sure you aren't in an area that is getting 1900 mhz tmo 3g soon? Mostly west coast, midwest. (also philly).
I don't really see why you would trade someone your Gnote for the One. It's like in chess- if your opponent offers up a piece for an exchange, it is almost always not a good idea to go for it. It means that they have some reason that they want to trade with you.
Hmmm I may look into straight talk. I actually had the atet note before this one and switched to the n7000 cause its much better. So no atet note for me lol.
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guitarplayerone said:
If you love the Gnote and want T mobile LTE, you can buy the ATT version and then flash a a radio which supports T mobile 3g on it. The ATT Gnote (i717) is 550 without contract, and you should be able to get most of your money back if you sell your N7000. That way you still have your beloved Gnote, and it works on T mobile 3g (and 4g too)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547114
Or you can do what I did and ditch Tmo and get straight talk. I did this coming from T mobile and knowing that the ATT Gnote would support the 1700 mhz band by reading spec sheets. As you may be able to tell, I decided to go with the international version.
Are you sure you aren't in an area that is getting 1900 mhz tmo 3g soon? Mostly west coast, midwest. (also philly).
I don't really see why you would trade someone your Gnote for the One. It's like in chess- if your opponent offers up a piece for an exchange, it is almost always not a good idea to go for it. It means that they have some reason that they want to trade with you.
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I actually offered them the trade. The one s seems like a great phone besides not having the notes 5.3 inch HD screen. Main reason I was thinking about it is cause then I would get 4g. Im gonna look into straight talk .
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LTE battery life ??

Based on the reviews that I've seen in the forums and reviews from tech sites it seems that the One has good not exceptional battery life.
Im in Canada and have international version ordered from Handtec so once I pop in my SIM I'll be on HSPA+ ......(not sure if it supports DC-HSPA like the Nexus 4)
That got me thinking ... If international HSPA version has good battery life then LTE version should probably suck !!:what:
I've seen that there's the option to turn off LTE on phone but then I don't understand the point of holding out for this version ??
I know there haven't been any reviews of LTE model but some feedback would be great .....
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Check android hilfe forum. Ppl in Germany on LTE report great battery life. Also you can check other 2 threads here. Few ppl posted screen shots with great battery life on LTE. Like 6h screen on time... 2 days of normal usage.. International version of H1 has LTE and is not limited to USA.
Battery life fine here connecting to lte got 18hrs with 4hours screen on connecting to lte most of the day with about 25% remaining few calls made, lots of music, some you tube, several texts. Very impressed.
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Just like the iPhone, is should theoretically use LESS battery on LTE.
jaaystott said:
Just like the iPhone, is should theoretically use LESS battery on LTE.
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Less than what?
BenPope said:
Less than what?
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Less than using the phone on 2G/3G
jaaystott said:
Just like the iPhone, is should theoretically use LESS battery on LTE.
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iPhone 5 battery is actually a lot better using LTE than 3G. It should be opposite, but I guess Apple really did a good optimization.
bubigrega said:
Check android hilfe forum. Ppl in Germany on LTE report great battery life. Also you can check other 2 threads here. Few ppl posted screen shots with great battery life on LTE. Like 6h screen on time... 2 days of normal usage.. International version of H1 has LTE and is not limited to USA.
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Well this is wonderful news .... Thanks
Now I'll wait for the 64Gb developers edition
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MrPhilo said:
iPhone 5 battery is actually a lot better using LTE than 3G. It should be opposite, but I guess Apple really did a good optimization.
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Well with lower latency and higher speeds, you tax the modem for a shorter period of time, hence the better battery life on LTE. Might seem miniscule at first, but apply the tiny savings to everything you do that uses data and it makes a difference. Or so I understood it from an explanation given on Anandtech. The HTC One should see the same benefits on LTE.
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Well with lower latency and higher speeds, you tax the modem for a shorter period of time, hence the better battery life on LTE. Might seem miniscule at first, but apply the tiny savings to everything you do that uses data and it makes a difference. Or so I understood it from an explanation given on Anandtech. The HTC One should see the same benefits on LTE.
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It makes complete sense but when I speak to friends that have the North American LTE enabled s3 they tell me how awful battery life is compared to the i9300 (international HSPA version) ???
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adsam3927 said:
It makes complete sense but when I speak to friends that have the North American LTE enabled s3 they tell me how awful battery life is compared to the i9300 (international HSPA version) ???
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You aren't taking into account the completely different SoC. As for the iphome just read anandtech.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
And I don't think the international i9300 is that much better in battery life to the LTE US model. They're also using two completely different SoC.
LTE is better for intensive use, 3G is better for standby. In general though the time saved by using LTE means that you come out on top even if the standby is higher.
But dude the chipsets aren't the same.
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bubbleboi said:
But dude the chipsets aren't the same.
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I don't even know what this means. The One, iPhone 5, Note 2, GS3 Exynos LTE, all GS4 phones, AT&T One X+, Xiaomi MI-2, Optimus G, Optimus G Pro, and Nexus 4 use MDM9x15, which is the same exact modem. Any differences will be on the digital to analog/analog side of the RF chain.
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I don't even know what this means. The One, iPhone 5, Note 2, GS3 Exynos LTE, all GS4 phones, AT&T One X+, Xiaomi MI-2, Optimus G, Optimus G Pro, and Nexus 4 use MDM9x15, which is the same exact modem. Any differences will be on the digital to analog/analog side of the RF chain.
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Interesting to note that phonedog did a review on the Sprint LTE version and says battery life is less than international version ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnN-iDcBhW8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Most are saying the LTE is equivalent if not slightly better than the non-LTE battery life.
Traditionally US LTE networks are horrible for battery life. I've had plenty of devices and for 95% of the time I keep them in 3G (HSPA+ on at&t) because they perform better for battery life.
The LTE networks here are not as advanced and optimized very well so devices tend to have worse battery life.
I have the dev edition on order which I hope will be network selectable and not saddled with at&t's signal meter. The one x and one x+ would only allow network selection if, on a rooted and unlocked bootloader, the standard 3G/H+ signal meter mod was done.
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moregadget said:
Traditionally US LTE networks are horrible for battery life. I've had plenty of devices and for 95% of the time I keep them in 3G (HSPA+ on at&t) because they perform better for battery life.
The LTE networks here are not as advanced and optimized very well so devices tend to have worse battery life.
I have the dev edition on order which I hope will be network selectable and not saddled with at&t's signal meter. The one x and one x+ would only allow network selection if, on a rooted and unlocked bootloader, the standard 3G/H+ signal meter mod was done.
MG
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The reason for the poor life is likely low signal quality in your area forcing your phone to constantly switch or look for better signal quality. Generally LTE (in a strong signal zone) will be excellent for your battery because it relies on faster transmission of data -- i.e. less duty cycles -- to complete the same task thus using less power. As I said earlier, it is much like 802.11ac standard now -- faster transmission, less time spent transmitting.
For CDMA/LTE devices, the power draw is due to having multiple radios on-board that need power. When VZW switches to an all-LTE phone by end of this year, it will be much better for their power draw.

Signal Reception, Moto or HTC One

im on my second htc one. reception is horrible, it wont stay on 4g, and barely has any signal on 3g. internet doesnt work most times i need it. are the moto phones better at receiving signal. im thinking of a moto x or a maxx. my time is almost up to exchange phone
thead73 said:
im on my second htc one. reception is horrible, it wont stay on 4g, and barely has any signal on 3g. internet doesnt work most times i need it. are the moto phones better at receiving signal. im thinking of a moto x or a maxx. my time is almost up to exchange phone
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I had the One, and while I didn't have any issues with reception per se, I can tell you that the Moto X is hands down the most bulletproof phone I've owned in the reception department.
There's no real contest between HTC & Motorola radios (I have both) -- Motorola wins every time.
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There's no real contest between HTC & Motorola radios (I have both) -- Motorola wins every time.
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Agreed, I have both and the X beats it easily.
My Moto X loses LTE a lot more than my GPe One.
I have had every Android phone to date and can safely say this Moto X and other Motorola phones have always had the best reception / RF quality
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thanks guys, i made the switch from htc one to moto maxx. and this phone is great. it has not left 4g since i got it 2 days ago. simply awesome and the huge battery is a bonus
Verizon one is terrible.. I have a network extender and it had a heck of a time changing between the terrible signal in my area and the extender. X is great... Best signal I've had yet.
My Moto X is the only phone that gets LTE where I work. Better reception then S3, N4. But best reception I've ever had was on my s2 I9100 (non LTE). That's the only phone that ever got signal on the subway in Toronto. I've had full phone conversations on the subway.
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I had the One X & Atrix HD @ the same time. My Atrix HD always got the best reception whereas the One X struggle to pull the signal. I imagine its the same if not better with the Moto X.
We were out of town recently. My wife's Moto X had a signal strength of 23 ASUs. My HTC One X was 5 and I had only 4G whereas she had LTE.
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I had a Nexus 4 before getting my Moto X(XT1053) and the reception is noticeably better and the internet is more reliable when it's on LTE vs HSPA+. I'm on AT&T's GoPhone plan with my unlocked Moto X., and I live in an area with marginal coverage for most carriers. Anyway my Moto X and my Mom's Moto G LTE get great signal most of the time; I can't comment on the HTC One as I don't know of anyone who has one.

Buy S3 or S3 LTE

Hi,
I am planning to buy a galaxy s3. Actually I do not need LTE but I tend to buy the LTE for the 2GB RAM.
Do you think there is a significant difference in performance between both versions?
Are there any good reasons to take the normal s3 instead of LTE version?
Well, on N5 you can keep more than 2 apps active, I believe this happens cos of 2GB ram, so 2GB of ram are necesseary now
I think there is no good reason to buy s3. Just go get the LTE version.
I don't know if you have used LTE (4g) before. If not I can tell you, 4g is way faster than 3g. So getting a 4g compatible device is a smart move. You may not want or need 4g now, but definitely 4g is the trend. For example in hong kong ,4g coverage is very well already.
Of cos the 2g ram makes a big difference in performance.
But if taking into account of nexus 5, I would suggest nexus 5.
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Thanks for your reply. I don´t think the N5 is an option for me even though it was my first idea for my new phone. I don´t like the weak battery and the missing sd card slot.
Then I thought about the S4 but when I read about the self-destroying displays I dropped this idea.
Now I chose the S3 as I think it still is a great device and it provides everything that I need plus it is also much cheaper (<200€ instead of 400€ for the N5 32GB)
4G definitely....in the city i live got 90% 4G coverage...and you can notice the difference...
4G is the future...sooner or later it will come to you...and the extra GB of RAM is great
I think there are more rom options for s3, and the difference between 3g and 4g isn't that big, I would have bought s3 instead of the lte version
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Improve GSM performance?

Hi guys,
I have been using this phone for the past 2 weeks and its great (perhaps it uses too much ram idle but doesnt matter)
That aside, I found that the gsm connection isnt as good as my old Atrix HD, it takes more time when roaming between antennas, it loses connectivity in places where the HD have had, etc.
Theres anything that I can do to improve that? I tought that sonce the phone is mainly for CDMA usage, it wasnt optimized for gsm (just guessing) Other rom perhaps? (using xdabbed right now)
Any advice would be great, thanks.
I don't think there is anything you can do to improve it, except not using a case maybe.
In my opinion, Motorola and Nokia have the best cell reception out there, so LG is not going to be as good. I also noticed that my G2 has worse reception than my last Nokia Lumia 925. My wife still has a Nokia, and it consistently gets better signal. I am using my VS980 on T-Mobile by the way.
Yep, before jumping to the g2, I had a lot of moto devices (atrix hd, atrix 4g, photon 4g, etc) and every single of them had incredible signal reception.
I guess ill have to accept the situation. Thanks

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