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Kaiser Hinge Problem!!! PLS HELP!! :(

Hi, i recently got my HTC KAISER,
unfortunately, the case that came with it to me is terrible, until now because of it, the phone fell from my hand 2 times until now. i have a feeling that the hinge is a bit loose from the screen. does anyone know how to tighten it back to the screen? from the right hand side there is about 2mm gap, and it makes a sound when i touch the screen since it hits the back.
any help, is appreciated.. esp if they are productive.
Thnx in advance

How can we help fix it if it was dropped? You didn't even provide any pics of it and I highly doubt we can help you. If its damaged its damaged, and your only course of action is to take it back and see if its under warranty and cross your fingers. I wish you the best of luck and hope someone can repair it for you. As far as the case I totally know how flimsy they are.

What does this have to do with XDA development?
Try the ATT wireless forums. This forum is for development.

what a couple of unhelpful posts, have we no mercy? this forum is full of topics that are 100% kaiser but 0% development, why are you picking on the poor guy with the (possibly) broken phone? and why direct him to some AT&T forum when he's already said it's an HTC branded phone? if you're going to kick a man when he's down, at least read his post properly first.
to the op: I feel your pain. in my first couple of weeks with the kaiser I must have dropped mine a dozen times, I think it's something to do with the extra weight. anyway, I too had some issues with the screen afterward - at one point their was a definite gap between the screen and keyboard as you described. I really noticed it and worried at first, but after a few days use and pocketwear, I found it pretty much closed up by itself. similiarly, i've found times where the top half of the phone has become misaligned to the left or right, so it overhangs slightly - this can be cured with a gentle but firm push the other way. I think the whole mechanism has been designed with a bit of give in it, so it can take odd knock without shattering, but still be nudged back into place without any real damage done. My advice - keep using it, slide and tilt it a few dozen times, and see if it falls back into shape. if it doesn't, try a firm but gentle push in the right direction, and if *that* doesn't work then take it back. but don't take any nonsense in the shop - insist on a warranty repair.

What are you talking about? I was blunt and straight to the point with the op. I told him we can't do anything and where he needs to go. I'm not gonna hold someones hand and tell them everything is gonna be fine and there's light at the end of the tunnel. He made a thread with NO pics to even show us what is going on so are we suppose to guess?

You don't have to be a customer of ATT forums to post there. The Kaiser design and the Tilt design are identical except for logos and the front cam.
The discussion would probably be better there instead of xda-developers

ronfin44 said:
What are you talking about? I was blunt and straight to the point with the op. I told him we can't do anything and where he needs to go. I'm not gonna hold someones hand and tell them everything is gonna be fine and there's light at the end of the tunnel. He made a thread with NO pics to even show us what is going on so are we suppose to guess?
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there may be people on the forum that are famaliar with taking apart the Tilt and tightening the hinges. this is why he posted.

Thnx for the support
Thnx for all of the support until now....
i am begining to accept the fact that i can bear the hinge problem which might not be a problem since the aligning is ok slightly loose, but today in the morning, i noticed that after the fall, the "start" button of the keyboard is sticking out, is there anyway to stick.fix it back in like the rest of the keys (something similar to the laptop buttons, by pushing it in, in a way??)
thnx for all of the support.

There is a thread around here some where that has a ZIP or a link to a PDF file that shows you how to take the phone apart. The reson for the PDF was to show you how to make the screen tilt even more than what it does stock. Search for it, I dont have the link, but I have seen it and read it on these forums.

pls
any ideas concerning the keyboard problem?
The start is not in its place no more, it is somewhat hanging...
plssss help...
thnx

mikeeey said:
there may be people on the forum that are famaliar with taking apart the Tilt and tightening the hinges. this is why he posted.
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As am I. Again. We're not mind readers. If you have a hardware problem you post pics and point-out exactly what's wrong so people can trouble shoot it. Take it to at&t like the first post suggested. I think a few of you need a cab that installs common sense before you post.

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There is a thread around here some where that has a ZIP or a link to a PDF file that shows you how to take the phone apart. The reson for the PDF was to show you how to make the screen tilt even more than what it does stock. Search for it, I dont have the link, but I have seen it and read it on these forums.
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The dismantling guide that Grizzley refers to is available here (Tonychen's guide):www.mikechannon.net (in the manuals section)
To the posters that don't like the OPs post:
If the post had been made in the Upgrading Forum then I would join you in saying this is not a development or upgrading matter. However the post was made in the regular Kaiser section and is therefore a completely legitimate post. In fact, we have a tradition of trying to help those that want to dis-assemble their device for whatever reason. Even if they don't, but just need more info on the mechanics of the device then that is ok too. Thinking of the TyTn/Hermes, a fix was found for the loose keyboard problem via dismantling procedures and physical examination of the device. Problems can be physical as well as software related, so don't be too narrowly focused in this general Kaiser forum.
I do agree with those that say you must give full details and pics if at all possible with this kind of problem, otherwise we are left guessing and possibly wasting time suggesting things that maybe inappropriate.
Mike

Pictures are here
Here are the pics...
look at the "start" button, it is not completely removed, it is hanging on like this....
look at the gap from the right hand side (Power + camera button side) is bigger that the gap from the sim slot side, therefore generating a plastic tap sound when pressing on the screen from the right side. as you can see in the pics, the gap is bigger than the paper clip size.
any suggestions for reducing the gap, and fixing the "Start" button?

any suggestions?????
help would be appreciated!

Ok, after seeing what's wrong you def need to take it back to the store you bought it from. Ask them if they can sen it out for repair. They'l most likely give ya a temp phone til it comes back. Now, it's probably not gonna be covered for obvious reasons, however, it might be cheaper to have them repair it rather than buy another one. Worst case scenario you could replace it with a refurb. Refurbs are excellent and some you can't tell if they're refurbs to be honest. Cost is approx $149, plus shipping. Let us know what they say when you take it back.

Other than taking it to the store, any possible suggestion that i could take action on by my self to fix this issue quickly?
because they will ask me to leave it with them for a couple of weeks!

I know cnn.cn does sell replacement parts, if your willing to do the repair yourself. Sorry I cant help anymore

jon_k said:
What does this have to do with XDA development?
Try the ATT wireless forums. This forum is for development.
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Hey jon_k, hat was bloody helpful mate!!!!!
I trust that you will be shown the same courtesy by the rest of us should you ever have a "non-development" question!!!
BTW, this forum is NOT just about development....ummm, can you read dude?
a$$wipe.

MACkjam said:
Hey jon_k, hat was bloody helpful mate!!!!!
I trust that you will be shown the same courtesy by the rest of us should you ever have a "non-development" question!!!
BTW, this forum is NOT just about development....ummm, can you read dude?
a$$wipe.
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jon_k's post was over 20 days ago, and he's already been corrected by a mod. Before this gets out of hand, let me remind you to not feed the trolls!

With the help of the link above you will be prepared to open the Kaiser. OK, you have to have the tools mentioned and do take a deep breath before you start, but as soon as you start the process is simple. Print out the photo's and write on the paper the colour and type of the screws you removed.
The glued on case above the battery compartment is the meanest of them all to remove and thats where you start with. So when that is done in about 5 minutes you can discover the buttons from the inside and in 10 minutes you come to the hinges where you find a total of four philips screws to tighten.
Beware for one thing though. The black plate which holds the slider system is held by six torx screws. Check them too, but don't tighten them too much or you will end up with a broken screw. Guess how I know
Regards, Roel

X1 Reassembly: conductive fabric, EMI gasket, black poron

Ok, I am considering ordering a new housing for my X1.
Ive searched and searched the forums for this and found (surprisingly) that no one has brought this up yet
I watched the SE document detailing the disassembly and reassembly of the X1. I decided to try it myself to see if I was capable of doing it before ordering the new housing. I got all the way to the part where you start peeling **** off and got scared and had to put everything back together (and did it successfully I might add)
So I was wondering, in the tech spec it says to discard these things. Obviously this is not an option since I dont have another one to reattach later.
How hard is it to carefully peel off these things and reattach them later the way they were?
Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement of these things?
Has anyone done this successfully that can give any insight or tips as to how to go about this?
I have found some conductive fabric for sale but the one used in the tech video seems to be specially tailored for the X1.
Please help, any help or comments would be appreciated!

matthewpapa said:
Ok, I am considering ordering a new housing for my X1.
Ive searched and searched the forums for this and found (surprisingly) that no one has brought this up yet
I watched the SE document detailing the disassembly and reassembly of the X1. I decided to try it myself to see if I was capable of doing it before ordering the new housing. I got all the way to the part where you start peeling **** off and got scared and had to put everything back together (and did it successfully I might add)
So I was wondering, in the tech spec it says to discard these things. Obviously this is not an option since I dont have another one to reattach later.
How hard is it to carefully peel off these things and reattach them later the way they were?
Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement of these things?
Has anyone done this successfully that can give any insight or tips as to how to go about this?
I have found some conductive fabric for sale but the one used in the tech video seems to be specially tailored for the X1.
Please help, any help or comments would be appreciated!
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you just put them back on.. it's not that tricky.
I've never had a problem with any phone I've ever worked on.. just take 30 seconds to make sure its all lined up correctly.

ibeQuint said:
you just put them back on.. it's not that tricky.
I've never had a problem with any phone I've ever worked on.. just take 30 seconds to make sure its all lined up correctly.
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Ok thanks for the input. Now I feel a little better about it. So you HAVE done this for the X1?? or just other phones?
Screwing and unscrewing I am perfectly fine with, but when I have to start peeling **** i get uncomfortable.

matthewpapa said:
Screwing and unscrewing I am perfectly fine with, but when I have to start peeling **** i get uncomfortable.
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lol insert bad "thats what she said" joke

killerskincanoe said:
lol insert bad "thats what she said" joke
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lmao. yea, i set myself up good for that one

matthewpapa said:
Ok thanks for the input. Now I feel a little better about it. So you HAVE done this for the X1?? or just other phones?
Screwing and unscrewing I am perfectly fine with, but when I have to start peeling **** i get uncomfortable.
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I've done repairs on touch pro's and touch diamonds, I can't imagine they are too different from an X1.
just make sure you don't place them sticky side down on anything and use tweezers so none of the oils on your fingers get on the sticky side.

Replacement G1 / Dream Cover

I have looked far and wide for a replacement cover for the G1 / Dream. It is fairly easy to find replacement battery covers, however finding the front cover replacements is another story.
To specify, I am referring to the plastic surrounding the LCD, the plastic surrounding the Menu, Home, Trackball, Back and End Buttons AND the battery cover ideally.
To confirm, this photo points to the plastic I am referring to and wish to replace. - http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCN_V3MeRuKPz5AE&feat=directlink
If ANYONE can guide toward a location where I can purchase these replacement parts, I would GREATLY appreciate it.
Again, I have looked and looked and found nowhere where I can purchase them together or separately.
Thanks in advance.

ugotluked said:
I have looked far and wide for a replacement cover for the G1 / Dream. It is fairly easy to find replacement battery covers, however finding the front cover replacements is another story.
To specify, I am referring to the plastic surrounding the LCD, the plastic surrounding the Menu, Home, Trackball, Back and End Buttons AND the battery cover ideally.
To confirm, this photo points to the plastic I am referring to and wish to replace. - http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCN_V3MeRuKPz5AE&feat=directlink
If ANYONE can guide toward a location where I can purchase these replacement parts, I would GREATLY appreciate it.
Again, I have looked and looked and found nowhere where I can purchase them together or separately.
Thanks in advance.
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this is easy to find: jus t search on ebay(or any other shops) for "g1 housing"
brown housing
http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-Housing-fo...3ef7cd5f72&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2170wt_696
full black housing
http://cgi.ebay.com/Full-Housing-fo...3ef7cdb6e4&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2180wt_696
white housing (tmobile uk version) this is the best looking housing in my opinon.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Housin...19b61cd29f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2443wt_922
and white housing (tmobile US version)
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-COVER-Housi...27ab93176b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1498wt_696
here is the link for more selection
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_trkpar...ccessories&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1

Ok I need help finding one of those black thingys that goes behind the back cover on my G1, I dont know what its called but when I take it out the phone turns off and it has three gold thingys on it. I tried looking allll over the interwebz for it but I cant find it anywhere. PLEASE HELP ME!!!

crpercodani said:
Ok I need help finding one of those black thingys that goes behind the back cover on my G1, I dont know what its called but when I take it out the phone turns off and it has three gold thingys on it. I tried looking allll over the interwebz for it but I cant find it anywhere. PLEASE HELP ME!!!
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care to take a picture of what u need? or take a picture of a g1 from the web and show what u need.
i am having trouble trying to picture what youre talking about.
r u talking about the charger port?

My only camera is the G1 and it if I take out the black thing it turns off so I cant take a picture of it. It is square and black and has some writing "HTC Innovations", I really hope you can help me cuz I am going mad looking for one of these black things on the world wide interwebs.

Nice, is all I have to say to this one

crpercodani said:
My only camera is the G1 and it if I take out the black thing it turns off so I cant take a picture of it. It is square and black and has some writing "HTC Innovations", I really hope you can help me cuz I am going mad looking for one of these black things on the world wide interwebs.
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http://www.formymobile.co.uk/Dismantle/g11.jpg
can u show me where on the phone you are talking about. the only thing that says htv innovation on my phone is the battery.
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-innovat...m3350a4c226&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_863wt_696

It's that black thinger on the far right. So what is it called cuz I need one BAD mine is leaking ooze all over and it burns my fingertips.

crpercodani said:
It's that black thinger on the far right. So what is it called cuz I need one BAD mine is leaking ooze all over and it burns my fingertips.
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lol dude are u f*cking with me =P i pretty sure u know thats a battery

I'm sorry man but you went along with me and I couldn't resist. Thanks for being a good sport.

Oh ****, too funny

crpercodani said:
I'm sorry man but you went along with me and I couldn't resist. Thanks for being a good sport.
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Oh ****, too funny
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lol that should be an FML story. **** dude i even took out my battery to look for something else that says htc innovation.. i just like helping ppl. -_-
link to my thread..FML on XDA. it was suppose to be for dream only ppl but it got moved to off topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553931

brian_v3ntura said:
lol that should be an FML story. **** dude i even took out my battery to look for something else that says htc innovation.. i just like helping ppl. -_-
link to my thread..FML on XDA. it was suppose to be for dream only ppl but it got moved to off topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553931
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Your awesome.

[Q] Housing Swap

Hey guys! So i completely understand how to completely disassemble this phone due to how easy it is (it only takes ten minutes!). But i was wondering do you guys think it would be worth being out of a phone for like a day (while paint drys, etc.) if i painted the whole thing and got rid of some scratches? Im seriously contemplating doing it but i just wanted your guys opinions and also any ideas on what colors i should use . Thanks!

that could be very bad for one no more warranty and two the paint could flake off and damage the hardware inside i would just skin it if u want to change the color that bad.

Thanks.
Thanks mate. My warranty is actually long gone and i will be getting a new phone shortly. The reason i assumed this would work because i saw a guy do it on the evo in the portal. It was actually a top post for the day. Id think about skinning it but for some reason the difficulty of the project is intriguing me. But i will def take what you said into consideration. Thanks

thats cool just please post pics if u do it im interested to see how that would turn out.

Okay
I'd be glad to post pics but it probobaly wont be untill this weekend because i use my phone too much during the week. I was thinking a white and metallic silver look. What do ya think?

i always liked the flat black look

The htc back housing will take dye better than paint. There was some pretty easy steps way back when. Check out ppcgeeks touch diamond forums, or google it.

il Duce said:
The htc back housing will take dye better than paint. There was some pretty easy steps way back when. Check out ppcgeeks touch diamond forums, or google it.
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Hey thanks man.

Issue
Do you guys any idea how i could paint the hardware buttons to hide all the scratches mine had from when i "let" my sister "play with it. Do you thing if i just buffered it all out with a fine sandpaper or something and then paint around them that would work. Because i figured if i was going to make the whole phoen beautiful then i may as well fix this falw too. If you do not think that part is possible then i guess ill just buy new housing for like 5 bucks. But just lmk. Thanks

I like the chips and scratches on my phone -- it reminds me of Boba Fet's helmet.

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I like the chips and scratches on my phone -- it reminds me of Boba Fet's helmet.
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That is clever

Paint scratched off inside Stylus hole?

Just looked inside my stylus hole for the first time and boy do I wish I hadn't. Half the paint seems scratched off, not like it matters what your phone internals look like but I still feel a brand new phone shouldnt appear this way? Anyone else have this or is my unit just unlucky?

saranwrap said:
Just looked inside my stylus hole for the first time and boy do I wish I hadn't. Half the paint seems scratched off, not like it matters what your phone internals look like but I still feel a brand new phone shouldnt appear this way? Anyone else have this or is my unit just unlucky?
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You may need to grease your S-Pen.

Funny i actually noticed the exact same thing.

It's not missing paint. The metal structure for the internal part where the pen goes is deisgned this way, probably for ease of manufacturing. The plastic is beneath the metal wrap-around is normal, the metal inside just isn't completely covering the structure. Not a defect. Look closely.

I had to laugh when I read this thread - really - ? Nothing against the OP - but how hard do you have to look to even see down there?

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I had to laugh when I read this thread - really - ? Nothing against the OP - but how hard do you have to look to even see down there?
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It's called attention to detail. Doesn't anyone else inspect the mic, speaker and headphone holes right after looking for mispellings in the manual? Me and the OP must be the only one, huh?

Yup

done12many2 said:
It's called attention to detail. Doesn't anyone else inspect the mic, speaker and headphone holes right after looking for mispellings in the manual? Me and the OP must be the only one, huh?
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I was really only teasing in a good natured way - Sure, it is an expensive phone = you want out check everything out - I just don't think I owuld have ever th ought to look in the hole where the SPen sits..If I ev3er create a new phone, I wnat you and the OP on the QA team. LoL

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I was really only teasing in a good natured way - Sure, it is an expensive phone = you want out check everything out - I just don't think I owuld have ever th ought to look in the hole where the SPen sits..If I ev3er create a new phone, I wnat you and the OP on the QA team. LoL
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I was just giving the OP a hard time. I think his post may have been a hit and run.

I'll take a pic when I'm home from work but I'm not talking far down, just what you can see even without trying once you take the stylus out. I'm not digging for problems here it's was just an unexpected sight.

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I was just giving the OP a hard time. I think his post may have been a hit and run.
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I have been known to hit it then quit it but xda isn't the place for that
mocsab said:
I was really only teasing in a good natured way - Sure, it is an expensive phone = you want out check everything out - I just don't think I owuld have ever th ought to look in the hole where the SPen sits..If I ev3er create a new phone, I wnat you and the OP on the QA team. LoL
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As long as hole inspector is in the job title and the compensation package is generous

saranwrap said:
I have been known to hit it then quit it but xda isn't the place for that
As long as hole inspector is in the job title and the compensation package is generous
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Nice! :thumbup:
I'm just concerned why the S-Pen slot was such a source of interest.

done12many2 said:
Nice! :thumbup:
I'm just concerned why the S-Pen slot was such a source of interest.
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let's just say that grease will have to be multi purpose

I got nothin'...

This thread cracks me up. .. People shouldn't be looking into holes.
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shook187 said:
This thread cracks me up. .. People shouldn't be looking into holes.
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I look into holes as often as possible.

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I look into holes as often as possible.
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Exactly, sometimes you want to square off and get a good peak before inserting anything. You could bend your S-Pen or even get it stuck for crying out loud.

saranwrap said:
I have been known to hit it then quit it but xda isn't the place for that
As long as hole inspector is in the job title and the compensation package is generous
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Hole inspector....hmmmmm