According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Install better battery stats to monitor what's going on. I think the one night I left it off charge over night I lost maybe 6-8% but I slept for like 10+ hours. This is with google now on, gps on, wifi on.
What i'm testing now that I think will actually improve batt life is having wifi turn off when display is off (unless plugged in). I think I noticed less idle drain at home when I did this but it was temporary. Giving it a shot over a few days now.
I leave wifi on and I get less than 5% drain. Nothing syncs when my screen is off except notification weather pro every two hours and Yahoo weather
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FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
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phositadc said:
Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
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I honestly believe it will be patched with the Camera.
I'm having the same issue. People are reporting crazy battery stats with like 20+ hours of use 2+ hours of screen on and like 20% battery left. I get MAYBE 12 hours of use and 2 hours of screen on and 20-25% left. My mediaserver is keeping the phone awake for almost an hour+ each day, and without root I can't figure out how to stop it. I always have GPS/Google Now/Bluetooth off, too.
I thought the drain was related to Wifi. But last night WiFi was turned off for the night and I still got 18% battery drain in about 8 hours.
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
rman18 said:
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
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Interesting theory but my overnight idle drain was approximately the same on both LTE and WiFi. 10-15%.
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How about turning off all radios (flight mode) and observe battery drain at night. Then turning wifi while on flight mode the next night and see the battery drain and so on until you can pin point what causes the most drain.
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I have noticed significant battery drain lately. When I first started using the Moto X I was getting 24-30 hours easily with moderate use. Generally I will only have 1-2 hours of screen time. Now with the same usage I am only getting 12-15. I have noticed that Android Kernal is the main offender, but don't know what that is.
Not Rooted
Screen brightness 50%-60%
Notifications turned off on all apps
Don't even have that many apps that I use
No gaming
I have attached screen shots from Gsam:
Battery Monitor
Screen Detail
App Sucker
kernal
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Take a look at your wakelocks, time held awake, and times waking device. Also, are you in a weak signal area? Where I work I get crap reception, and my battery life sucks along with it.
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My battery life was fcuked: losing 40%-%50 overnight while it was inactive sitting on the nightstand.
(Factory reset did not help at all!)
Now after futzing with the WIFI setting, last night I lost only 5% total in 8 hours sleep time.
Furthermore battery read 18% remaining at 10:30 PM and still read 18% at 4:17 AM.
Now this is more like what my iPhone 6 gets while sleeping.
What seems to have fixed by battery woes.
I changed the (Advanced) WIFI frequency setting from Automatic to 5Ghz (which would not work at all) and then to 2.4 Ghz only.
As of today I have 87% remaining after 3 hours of casual use (after charging to 100%.) Previously (for the past week since installing Lollipop) I was losing about 25% per hour during casual usage - ridiculously bad battery life.
Hopefully this will work for someone other than myself. I had just listed this thing on Craigslist because I cannot use a phone with 4 hour battery life.
Good luck.
Just set it to the same WiFi setting, will get back with screens.
Thanks though, I have brought this phone recently and thought it was only me getting bad battery life :\ I've had to charge this phone more than I did my nexus 4. I brought it off someone after they had used it for 9 months.
mine
Mine loses 1 or 2% overnight with wifi left on. Luck of the draw i guess.
trsix said:
Mine loses 1 or 2% overnight with wifi left on. Luck of the draw i guess.
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trsix, what wifi frequency is yours set to? And did you ever alter the freq. setting?
Thanks.
ronnienyc said:
My battery life was fcuked: losing 40%-%50 overnight while it was inactive sitting on the nightstand.
(Factory reset did not help at all!)
Now after futzing with the WIFI setting, last night I lost only 5% total in 8 hours sleep time.
Furthermore battery read 18% remaining at 10:30 PM and still read 18% at 4:17 AM.
Now this is more like what my iPhone 6 gets while sleeping.
What seems to have fixed by battery woes.
I changed the (Advanced) WIFI frequency setting from Automatic to 5Ghz (which would not work at all) and then to 2.4 Ghz only.
As of today I have 87% remaining after 3 hours of casual use (after charging to 100%.) Previously (for the past week since installing Lollipop) I was losing about 25% per hour during casual usage - ridiculously bad battery life.
Hopefully this will work for someone other than myself. I had just listed this thing on Craigslist because I cannot use a phone with 4 hour battery life.
Good luck.
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try setting it back to auto and see what happens. IE, try to replicate the issue and the fix.
For me, I went back to KK 4.4.4 factory image and took OTA seems to fix the wifi idle to just same as OP overnight (~5%). But after some use, it can drain quick but not as quick as I was on custom ROM (all kinds I tried).
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Furthermore battery read 18% remaining at 10:30 PM and still read 18% at 4:17 AM.
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This can happen when the phone is being moderately used before a longer idle period. The battery percentage will actually go up to compensate for the earlier usage estimation, giving the illusion of zero drop over night. It becomes clear after seeing the graph and the line going up only to drop down to the pre-idle level.
Kind of annoying since I'd like to see how much was actually lost over night. Just something that happens with the estimation process that is our battery level.
I recently switched from 2.4Ghz only back to Auto mode as it seems the WiFi speed drop issues are no longer present on my particular home network. No battery drain or issues yet but I will keep a close eye on it. Thanks for sharing.
bblzd said:
This can happen when the phone is being moderately used before a longer idle period. The battery percentage will actually go up to compensate for the earlier usage estimation, giving the illusion of zero drop over night. It becomes clear after seeing the graph and the line going up only to drop down to the pre-idle level.
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I think your statement is true, as I noticed that with OTA updates, my idle over night is very low. However, upon using the phone the battery immediately starting to report drastic drop in percentage number. I mean this is cruel as in it gives us a false sense of battery consumption over all lol.
I will try it thanks
I'm going to give this a try. I've been using an app to turn wifi off when asleep but am still getting higher drain on wifi with the screen on than should be. Will report back after a day or two.
Personally I don't think they fixed the wifi miscellaneous drain and just hid it in the usage stats. My battery life has never been the same since the final dev preview. Luckily I'm always near a charger.
vboyz103 said:
I think your statement is true, as I noticed that with OTA updates, my idle over night is very low. However, upon using the phone the battery immediately starting to report drastic drop in percentage number. I mean this is cruel as in it gives us a false sense of battery consumption over all lol.
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Did you guys read the entire OP?
I have had an overall drastic improvement in battery life - not merely during idle time
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Did you guys read the entire OP?
I have had an overall drastic improvement in battery life - not merely during idle time
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Right, I did read the OP and actually did make the same adjustments. However, I didn't see any improvements on my KK 4.4.4 upgraded to L via OTA in terms of idling overnight. My idle stats are very good even prior to the adjustment mentioned and same post adjustments. However, the freaking issue is when I started using the phone.
I think it is varies wildly for each user and their phone.
" the freaking issue is when I started using the phone.”
Indeed, this is another issue with this phone. Battery is too freaking small.
At this point i am back on my iPhone 6. iOS is a bit rigid for my taste, but the thing is fast, great screen, and runs two days on a charge, call quality is superior, louder speaker, etc!
Battery life is critical, yo.
ronnienyc said:
" the freaking issue is when I started using the phone.”
Indeed, this is another issue with this phone. Battery is too freaking small.
At this point i am back on my iPhone 6. iOS is a bit rigid for my taste, but the thing is fast, great screen, and runs two days on a charge, call quality is superior, louder speaker, etc!
Battery life is critical, yo.
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I feel ya, I tried a 5s and iOS 7 out for about 6 months because it looked nice. Had great battery life until I had to jailbreak it to get it to do what I wanted (which is stock/non root stuff on android) and apps from cydia rocked my battery ;-( then it was like why am I having to tweak the crap out of this phone to do simple things I want that shouldn't be a big deal in the first place? Finally just decided to come back to my N5 in the end.
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Right, I did read the OP and actually did make the same adjustments. However, I didn't see any improvements on my KK 4.4.4 upgraded to L via OTA in terms of idling overnight. My idle stats are very good even prior to the adjustment mentioned and same post adjustments. However, the freaking issue is when I started using the phone.
I think it is varies wildly for each user and their phone.
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This. I hate how much my battery drains when my screen is on. I'm convinced some of it is Lollipop though. I got a feeling it is also related to the memory leaks.
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Agreed about ios, but it is getting better. The notificatiins just got a lit better....little things are slowly improving.
Something that is GREAT on iOS now: voice to text is screaming fast now, and extremely accurate. I rarely type emails and texts now. No kidding!
I went back to 4.4.4 last night - as while the idle drain was fixed with these settings, the overall battery life while using the phone under LL is still relatively miserable.
4.4.4 seems a bit better...
Now I see that 5.0.1 is apparently being released in the next day or two...we shall see. So far the release notes say nothing about a battery fix.
On 4.4, I observed a massive reduction of WiFi wakelocks by setting static IPs in my home network. So if you have problems, give it a try.
is it possaible some app drain it in overnight?
Does no one else realise that a major OS update needs to "bed in" for a good few days? The battery life performance is a lot better on LP. I've an HTC desire 610 though and it goes days between charges. It's a 420 battery but 1/4 hd screen. You take your choice of features and find your phone/s
So since I have updated to the 11 release my battery life has been decent from the perspective of SOT. However, the Standby time on the Moto X is horrendous.
I went to bed with a full charge around 3:30am and when I picked it up at 10am I was down to 77%. What gives? When I checked the battery the phone seems to be consistently waking up.
Part of me feels it is the Moto Display causing the issues as that thing tends to light up all the time for no reason, but the am going to go through and test stuff as this Standby time is not acceptable.
Terry thrumming off data before sleeping
Look at your signal too. Try turning off lte at night.
I used to have that issue with the screen. So now I use "good night" mode and the phone doesn't wake up any more
You got something waking it up constantly.
Moto display won't cause that. I uses a separate processor
Hi all,
I would like to talk about my battery. I have never gotten above 2 and a half hours of screen on time, not even on lollipop and I'm on marshmallow now. I feel like doze does not really work because the battery drains at night by over 20 percent just idling. Also, my battery chart shows 3 hours left at 85%. I noticed that Android System was usually at the top of the list of things using the battery the most. Does anyone have a fix for this situation? I only got the phone last summer and believe that battery life should be way better than this.