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[Q] How does sunlight mode work?

Hi everyone,
Theather Mode is clear to me (you can toggle it off/on). However how does Sunlight mode work? There is no On/Off Toggle in this setting?
Regards,
Fabio

From what I understand, it's a kind of boost for a short moment. A toggle wouldn't make sense in this mode as it would suck your battery.
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just pull down the menu that would have muted the watch on 4.4
from there you can swipe to the left to activate the sunlight mode
apparently, Triple-clicking the hardware button quickly activates Sunlight Mode too

2k4ever said:
just pull down the menu that would have muted the watch on 4.4
from there you can swipe to the left to activate the sunlight mode
apparently, Triple-clicking the hardware button quickly activates Sunlight Mode too
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I know how to trigger it. I am more interested how it works. So it boosts brightness.... for how long? and can I stop it somehow?
Regards,
Fabio

dilorenzo said:
I know how to trigger it. I am more interested how it works. So it boosts brightness.... for how long? and can I stop it somehow?
Regards,
Fabio
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boost for about 5s and after go in normal setting brightness.

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apparently, Triple-clicking the hardware button quickly activates Sunlight Mode too
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Cool! And 2 clicks does theater mode.
I was going to say, it would be hard to be in the sun, trying to see the screen, to pull down and select Sunlight mode :laugh: ...

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Cool! And 2 clicks does theater mode.
I was going to say, it would be hard to be in the sun, trying to see the screen, to pull down and select Sunlight mode :laugh: ...
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I don't know why they made it that way: You have to swipe down, swipe 2 times to the right and then hit the switch. No way I can find my way in bright sunlight... (LG Watch, without buttons...)
I think they should have implemented it that way : every time you touch the face to wake the watch, maximize brightness for about 1 sec - enough to read but not enough to drain battery.

onyxogen said:
I think they should have implemented it that way : every time you touch the face to wake the watch, maximize brightness for about 1 sec - enough to read but not enough to drain battery.
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And, in case you do that in the complete darkness, when you are half asleep ... you got yourself a temporary blindness and a wake-up bump .

Should be a way to change the time for sunligth mode. Sometimes 5 sec is not enough, for example to open the navigator or search something in internet.
Another way could be if you are touching the screen the watch should extend this time for 5 sec more.
could be a good mod!

On the LG G watch R you can press the Button on the side 3 times quickly which gives you sunlight mode.

Technane said:
On the LG G watch R you can press the Button on the side 3 times quickly which gives you sunlight mode.
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See post 3 :good:

[Q] seconds hand not working in dimmed mode.

Hello.
Is there any possibility to get working seconds hand in dimmed mode.
Every watchface which i've tried have not working seconds hand/display in dimmed mode.
Additionally minute hands sometimes "hangs" for about 2-3 minutes which resulting showing wrong hour.
I assume that this is some kind of power saving feature but it is very annoying when watch shows for eg. 11.59 and real time is 12.02 :/
Is there any fix for this?

Edit the watch face and you can include whatever you want. You will need a face from Facer or WatchMaker or Intellicom.

I did't make my point clear. I have watchface which have secconds hand in dimmed mode, but it stops moving as soon as watch goes into dimmed mode.

It's a power saving feature. The screen refresh is slowed down to 1 frame per minute in dim mode, so you cannot have seconds displayed. Also the cpus are being slowed down a lot during that period as well as the sensors. The only sensors that is being probed during the dim mode are the gyroscope and the touchscreen.

ro_explorer said:
It's a power saving feature. The screen refresh is slowed down to 1 frame per minute in dim mode, so you cannot have seconds displayed.
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Is there any way of changing this, by changing maybe kernel or someting ?

If you build your own custom ROM, of course you can do whatever you want.
Your battery will suffer though.

ro_explorer said:
If you build your own custom ROM, of course you can do whatever you want.
Your battery will suffer though.
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it's a pity because i don't know how to do that.
So for me, there is no solution
Big thanks.

You still can use a custom watchface (like watchmaker/facer) and extend the time for the active mode. Still, why would you do that?

ro_explorer said:
You still can use a custom watchface (like watchmaker/facer) and extend the time for the active mode. Still, why would you do that?
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do you know how to change the time for the active mode in facer or wherever?
thx

How do you adjust the time the screen stays 'awake'?

My screen timeout is at ten minutes but the screen dims and turns off after 10 seconds and it's incredibly bothersome when trying to read an ebook for example. Have you encountered this? Any suggestions?
Edit: not a Always on display problem

Place AOD on schedule? So, not always on

raul6 said:
Place AOD on schedule? So, not always on
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It still dims after 10 seconds with the always on display off. Do you know of any setting that could change this in thynote9?

Are you using some power saving mode?

Doesn't AOD dim after a while after awhile so as not make the pixels burn unevenly long term? Just use a clock if you want it to be on long.

@rbiter said:
Doesn't AOD dim after a while after awhile so as not make the pixels burn unevenly long term? Just use a clock if you want it to be on long.
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The problem is the screen dimming after ten seconds not the AOD display. I turned off the AOD display and it still dims too fast.

raul6 said:
Are you using some power saving mode?
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No,

Does this setting possible have anything to do with it. It used to be default 5 seconds for most phones. Is this possibly interfering with the dimming?

@rbiter said:
Does this setting possible have anything to do with it. It used to be default 5 seconds for most phones. Is this possibly interfering with the dimming?
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This is the screen timeout setting.

quantum88 said:
This is the screen timeout setting.
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GO to Settings, advanced features and select 'Smart Stay' to on position.
Your screen will time out to whatever you've set it in display settings, but smart stay will stop that happening if it know you're watching something

ajay83 said:
GO to Settings, advanced features and select 'Smart Stay' to on position.
Your screen will time out to whatever you've set it in display settings, but smart stay will stop that happening if it know you're watching something
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That is better than before but still not what I want. I basically want the phone screen to be on until I turn it off or the amount of time I put on the screen timeout elapses. Is this just impossible on this expensive device?

Hi,
I'm afraid the max is 10min in screen settings.
The only other way is in developer options, then 'stay awake always' but this only allows this during charging(plugged in)
To enable dev option, you need to go to settings/about phone/software information, then tap build number around 7-8 times

KinScreen is great app for that: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teqtic.kinscreen

sarobi said:
KinScreen is great app for that: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teqtic.kinscreen
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This app is incredibly useful though I am worried about the battery usage. I'm going to use this. Thanks a lot!

Ambient Display / Lock Screen Settings

I've chosen that the ambient display should light up whenever I'm near the phone. However, it stays on for about 10 mins even though I'm not near it. Sometimes it just stays off even though I'm nearby and even lifting up the phone. What settings should I use?

I would test that the proximity sensor is working. Try using the Pokémon wallpaper or app to see if it recognises that you are near and waving your hand. I only say this as my first pixel had a faulty sensor and I had to return it. If yours is too it might explain why it isn't working.

narse said:
I would test that the proximity sensor is working. Try using the Pokémon wallpaper or app to see if it recognises that you are near and waving your hand. I only say this as my first pixel had a faulty sensor and I had to return it. If yours is too it might explain why it isn't working.
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Pokémon reacts fine and proximity sensor works just fine.

rasmusj said:
I've chosen that the ambient display should light up whenever I'm near the phone. However, it stays on for about 10 mins even though I'm not near it. Sometimes it just stays off even though I'm nearby and even lifting up the phone. What settings should I use?
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The same here. I changed the Idle Lock Screen to OFF and let the other settings ON, this works better for me.

rasmusj said:
I've chosen that the ambient display should light up whenever I'm near the phone. However, it stays on for about 10 mins even though I'm not near it. Sometimes it just stays off even though I'm nearby and even lifting up the phone. What settings should I use?
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Do you use the naptime and have Android battery saver enables?

sruel3216 said:
Do you use the naptime and have Android battery saver enables?
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No I haven't if you mean DND. Sometimes also after a restart the phone also needs to cycle the power button.

rasmusj said:
I've chosen that the ambient display should light up whenever I'm near the phone. However, it stays on for about 10 mins even though I'm not near it. Sometimes it just stays off even though I'm nearby and even lifting up the phone. What settings should I use?
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Check your screen timeout settings in settings/display and change it to whatever you want, like maybe it's set to 10 minutes so set it to less minutes or disable completely.

Screen timeout is set to 1 minute and tried to change it to 2 mins. With same result. Weird ?

CameraLightSensor

Anyone having CameraLightSensor battery drain?
Edit: it is 4g Exynos model, latest firmware

I just checked and I do not see it on mine at all. T-mobile version.

No battery drain on mine either.

Possibly disable the face unlock, its going to save alot of battery for you.

coolmaster121 said:
Possibly disable the face unlock, its going to save alot of battery for you.
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Don't have it enabled, it seems it is auto brightness

Off topic: could you tell me what kind of SoT you're getting? There are no replies yet in the official thread and I'm interested in the Exynos version.

Pufanu said:
Off topic: could you tell me what kind of SoT you're getting? There are no replies yet in the official thread and I'm interested in the Exynos version.
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4 hours sot max

dzontra83 said:
4 hours sot max
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Ouch! That's on 120hz, I assume. I was half-expecting that. Thanks.

Pufanu said:
Ouch! That's on 120hz, I assume. I was half-expecting that. Thanks.
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Yup, will report tomorrow with auto brightness turned off, because today CameraLightSensor was running in the background for almost 9 hours.

dzontra83 said:
Yup, will report tomorrow with auto brightness turned off, because today CameraLightSensor was running in the background for almost 9 hours.
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That's definitely not right. Hope you get it sorted out.

Pufanu said:
That's definitely not right. Hope you get it sorted out.
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I know, don't know where to start, so first step is to disable auto brightness....

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I know, don't know where to start, so first step is to disable auto brightness....
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It definitely seems to be auto brightness, I turned it off, charged the phone to 100%, and today CameraLightSensor it not showing in the battery usage at all.

dzontra83 said:
Yup, will report tomorrow with auto brightness turned off, because today CameraLightSensor was running in the background for almost 9 hours.
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Same thing on my T-Mobile model - 3.1% over 9 hours. I have not checked my unlocked model, as its still in the box.
Have you noticed the 'ring" of pixels around the camera changing color to black when using the phone? I notice it mostly when browsing the web, or on a phone call.
Hard to describe what it is, but a "ring" about 5 px wide turns black or dark grey around the front camera just for a second. Is that the light sensor thing?
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Interesting - I read an article about samsung using the camera instead of a sensor in new phones to detect the ambient brightness. The phone will take a picture, adjust the brightness, then the picture is permanently deleted. I guess that flash of the ring around the camera is the phone doing that to see what the light levels are in the room.
I turned off auto brightness and that ring flashing has stopped.

fncd said:
Same thing on my T-Mobile model - 3.1% over 9 hours. I have not checked my unlocked model, as its still in the box.
Have you noticed the 'ring" of pixels around the camera changing color to black when using the phone? I notice it mostly when browsing the web, or on a phone call.
Hard to describe what it is, but a "ring" about 5 px wide turns black or dark grey around the front camera just for a second. Is that the light sensor thing?
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Interesting - I read an article about samsung using the camera instead of a sensor in new phones to detect the ambient brightness. The phone will take a picture, adjust the brightness, then the picture is permanently deleted. I guess that flash of the ring around the camera is the phone doing that to see what the light levels are in the room.
I turned off auto brightness and that ring flashing has stopped.
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Definitely when you turn off auto brightness, the CameraLightSensor is not working in the background. But it must be a software glitch, it should be active only when the screen is on, it shouldn't be active while the device is in sleep.

dzontra83 said:
Definitely when you turn off auto brightness, the CameraLightSensor is not working in the background. But it must be a software glitch, it should be active only when the screen is on, it shouldn't be active while the device is in sleep.
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I spoke too soon. Even with auto brightness turned off, the flashing ring of pixels around the camera still persist. ?
Edit: Sent in an error report along with two of them about the screen sensitivity issues.

Just checked my S20 FE 5G variant and it too has the CameraLightSensor draining at 2.8% for a total background usage of 8hrs and 28 minutes
(Snapdragon)

dzontra83 said:
It definitely seems to be auto brightness, I turned it off, charged the phone to 100%, and today CameraLightSensor it not showing in the battery usage at all.
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How many hours SOT after auto-brightness is turned off please?
My country will only have the 4G Exynos type too.

fncd said:
I spoke too soon. Even with auto brightness turned off, the flashing ring of pixels around the camera still persist.
Edit: Sent in an error report along with two of them about the screen sensitivity issues.
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Flashing ring of pixels around the camera???

ChildishSmef said:
Flashing ring of pixels around the camera???
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Yes - Whether on the home screen, in a call, or in an app, there is a perfect "ring" (if you will) about 3-5 pixels wide around the camera that goes black for a split second or so and then changes back to the color of whatever it was displaying (think background color of a chrome tab, phone call, etc). It's impossible to catch as it happens so quickly. It's almost as if a perfect circle is turning off and then back on. And it has happened on both of my S20 FE, with or without adaptive brightness turned on.
I don't think it's something that screen recorder will even capture since that doesn't show the camera cutout, but I'll try!
EDIT: So I made a screen recording - and I think it was just the troubleshooting I needed to figure out what the problem is (was). . . When recording, the screen never shuts off, so there is no need for Smart Stay to activate (the camera checks to see if you're looking @ the phone to stay on). . . As soon as I stopped screen recording, that ring of pixels turned off and back on as it has been doing. I turned off Smart Stay, and it hasn't happened in the past 10 minutes or so. . .
I wonder if those that are seeing the high CameraLightSensor usage have Smart Stay turned on? It's not on by default - you have to look for it in settings.

fncd said:
Yes - Whether on the home screen, in a call, or in an app, there is a perfect "ring" (if you will) about 3-5 pixels wide around the camera that goes black for a split second or so and then changes back to the color of whatever it was displaying (think background color of a chrome tab, phone call, etc). It's impossible to catch as it happens so quickly. It's almost as if a perfect circle is turning off and then back on. And it has happened on both of my S20 FE, with or without adaptive brightness turned on.
I don't think it's something that screen recorder will even capture since that doesn't show the camera cutout, but I'll try!
EDIT: So I made a screen recording - and I think it was just the troubleshooting I needed to figure out what the problem is (was). . . When recording, the screen never shuts off, so there is no need for Smart Stay to activate (the camera checks to see if you're looking @ the phone to stay on). . . As soon as I stopped screen recording, that ring of pixels turned off and back on as it has been doing. I turned off Smart Stay, and it hasn't happened in the past 10 minutes or so. . .
I wonder if those that are seeing the high CameraLightSensor usage have Smart Stay turned on? It's not on by default - you have to look for it in settings.
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I have smart stay off, accidentall touch protection off, face unlock off, and from today adaptive brightness off, and my CameraLightSensor is not working in the background when I turned it off. Auto brightness was definitely the culprit for me.