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is there any way for have official update after rooting without flashing the rom ?
is there anyway to unRoot Xperia SP ?
Thanks
You can unroot your phone flashing a stock ftf file via flashtool.
As about updates, many members here upload ftf files once released, so waiting for Sony to release the update on your country, from the moment you can flash the ftf file some hours after the release, is kind of useless l (just my opinion mate).
DaRk-L0rD said:
You can unroot your phone flashing a stock ftf file via flashtool.
As about updates, many members here upload ftf files once released, so waiting for Sony to release the update on your country, from the moment you can flash the ftf file some hours after the release, is kind of useless l (just my opinion mate).
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can you explain it a little bit better?
my girlfriend has the phone und i unlocked the bootloader, rooted it and installed a custom kernel (What is this? dont know the use of it) and now the phone says "cant install update" (12.0.a.1.257)
(german phone)
thanks in advance
Pestplatte said:
can you explain it a little bit better?
my girlfriend has the phone und i unlocked the bootloader, rooted it and installed a custom kernel (What is this? dont know the use of it) and now the phone says "cant install update" (12.0.a.1.257)
(german phone)
thanks in advance
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Custom kernel lets you get the whole control of your device. You can use it for better battery life, overclock etc. All custom kernels in order to be installed, you have to have unlocked bootloader.
But, when you unlock the bootloader you void your warranty, you loose bravia engine and you can't update using Sony pc companion.
You can still though relock your bootloader by flashing via flashtool a ftf file that you can find on development section.
If you want to relock your bootloader, I suggest you to download an ftf file of the update and flash it and after that flash the ftf file in order to relock bootloader.
Flashtool is an app for pc that lets you install ftf files.
Ftf is the extension of the update that Sony releases.
so what exactly is a (the) tft file?
and how can i upgrade the phone?
is it also possible to use new android 4.2.2 (from sdk) like google nexus?
sorry but i dont know anything about original software from sony, always had custom rom on my lg ^^
Pestplatte said:
so what exactly is a (the) tft file?
and how can i upgrade the phone?
is it also possible to use new android 4.2.2 (from sdk) like google nexus?
sorry but i dont know anything about original software from sony, always had custom rom on my lg ^^
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No, you can't use LG files because it's not compatible with your device mate.
Ftf files are the format of the stock file. When users download an update from pc companion, they create a file so other members can use it even if in their country the update is not released.
You can check how to use flashtool on YouTube. With flashtool you can install ftf files.
i already used flashtool but i just didnt know for what and i just used it to install the xperia Z drivers (dont know why i had to use them for my c5303, others didnt work)
i used this kernel forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42642971 and flashed via fastboot (just oldschool and how it worked ever on my old lg ^^)
by the way: it was a .elf file, not tft i think ^^
okay i hope i got it now. it is for: - samsung devices (only) and - necessary for using the original rom?!
but the last questions:
which kernel do i have to download to update? (german)
and: do i have to save the data? (dont have CWM on this phone, but titanium Backup)
sry for the dumb questions, but this is all so complicated for this **** phone (i hate it, but lucky it is not mine)
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for my lg i installed fastboot, download CWMrec, downloaded a custom rom, rooted, installed everythink, all done nicely :victory:
for the nexus 7 it was even more simply. used a nexus program, type a few numbers, all done
for this phone i had to install like a bunch of programms, had big problem with drivers, read dozens of sites (the technical one are not so easy for a german guy ^^), had to register imei, unlock bootloader and so on... very much crap for a 350€ phone... with old android 4.1.2
I really don't think you should be messing with unlocking bootloaders and playing with the kernel if you don't even know what it's for.
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Hey guys,
I have one or two questions I cant seem to find a definitive answer for.
I currently have a Z1 locked to my local O2 network. They still haven't release any updates past 4.2.2.
I was wondering would it be possible to flash a Sony Stock Factory Image so that future OTA updates would come from Sony and not through my carrier?
I was looking at this ROM here. So Root the phone, flash the ROM and then remove root.
Some might say why not root, unlock etc. but the to be honest I have done my fair share of trying different ROM's on different phones, throughout the years and I just love how stable the phone is and how good the battery life is that I just don't want to mess around with it too much.
Dave
You already messing around. That link which you posted is a method to root your phone and if you do not want to root it then is not the right thread. To update your phone to latest FW you have to flash the Unbranded Firmware .136 for your model from HERE
Use flashtool v0.9.13 to do that, wipe everything and you are done. This is for Locked Bootloader and you will also get next Updates when they comes.
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You already messing around. That link which you posted is a method to root your phone and if you do not want to root it then is not the right thread. To update your phone to latest FW you have to flash the Unbranded Firmware .136 for your model from HERE
Use flashtool v0.9.13 to do that, wipe everything and you are done. This is for Locked Bootloader and you will also get next Updates when they comes.
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Its as simple as that? I might give it a shot this evening so when I get home.
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Its as simple as that? I might give it a shot this evening so when I get home.
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Yes, it's simple because you just want the latest Firmware only, No Root, No Unlocked Bootlader.
One last question, if I flash the latest UK version which is .290 will I receive OTA or PC Companion updates as soon as .136 is out for the UK version?
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One last question, if I flash the latest UK version which is .290 will I receive OTA or PC Companion updates as soon as .136 is out for the UK version?
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Yes
harfot said:
Yes
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Brilliant, Thanks!
i recently bought a bell xperia z1, went on to the sony website to unlock bootloader to find that mine is locked, unlike the international version which has an unlockable bootloader.
ive updated it to see if the updates would unlock the bootloader but alas they did not, now im running :
model c6906
android 4.3
build 14.2.A.0.209
Main question :
Will i be able to downgrade and bypass the bootloader?
ive rooted a S2/Htc HD/ Desire Z in the past im just worrying about bricking my phone that ive had for less then a week.
and all other guides ive seen are for different versions, ive heard of flashing the 6903 stuff but that makes me worry way to much.
so pretty much want to know is it possible to do via downgrade to achieve root or should i just wait till a safer method becomes available.
sony bloatware is annoying
Yes, you can get C6906 Rooted with Locked Bootlader. First you have Read a bit more about it, starting with this thread and also watch the Video Tutorial.
You have to use Flashtool v0.9.15 to downgrade to .534 using Rogers FTF for your model from here.
When you are on 4.2.2 FW .534 Root it with Bin4ry Method, then Install Dualrecovery, SuperSU and Upgrade to your favorite latest Android Pre-Rooted, like KitKat Here or JB 4.3 Here.
Done.
Good Luck!
you sir are the man, followed the video and got root, now to find a rom to use.
edit : went to install a rom + gapps and had to do the whole process over again. right from flashing nuts custom. got stuck in a sony logo boot loop. zz
so attempt #2 with a different rom.
edit 2: was able to update to 4.4 kitkat so now i hope i can update my rom. since i was trying to do a 4.4 rom on the 4.3 firmware ?
edit3: nope stuck on sony logo so went back to nuts again... hrmm well atleast i could upate to 4.4 going to try boot to cwm and see if that works
Before I flashed mine I was reading for weeks, You did in few hours and I think to quickly. If the phone stuck in Boot logo, I think you did something wrong but I don't have the phone with me so I cannot tell.
Now you have to go back to stock, keep pushing Volume UP and Power, 3 vibrations, phone in off, keep pushing volume down and connect to pc in flashmode, flash a Stock FTF for your model from the link I give you. Now you phone should boot. Repeat the process to get Root and be careful.
Remember to Wipe Data, Appslog, Cache, every time you flash a Fresh Installation is recommended.
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keep pushing volume down and connect to pc in flashmode, flash a Stock FTF for your model from the link I give you. .
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You should not connect the phone to the PC until the PC prompts you after flashtool has prepared the files for flashing
sorvis said:
since i was trying to do a 4.4 rom on the 4.3 firmware ?
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4.4 will need a 4.4 kernel.
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You should not connect the phone to the PC until the PC prompts you after flashtool has prepared the files for flashing
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Ok, that is why I saw in Flashtool Disconnect and Connect my device few times but never had a problem. Good to know.
i was able to go back and use flash tool to flash nut's ftf
so im on 4.4 kitkat rooted which is good.
but when i flash any custom rom trough any recovery it boot loops im guessing its because locked bootloader.
so im guessing any rom i want to flash has to have 2 parts. The flashing process in recovery and the flashtool flash firmware for that rom.
unless like you said update my kernal
I have rooted my Z1 many times without problem, first downgraded to .534, root with Bin4ry's root tool, then flash the .zip file from recovery and flash stripped .ftf with FlashTool.
By rooting this way I can keep my bootloader locked.
A couple of weeks ago I had to send my phone for repairs when the call speaker gave up and they changed the mainboard (new IMEI).
After this I can not downgrade to .534 anymore! It will stuck at a bootloop, with only the Sony logo showing. Downgrading to .257 (the version after .534) is no problem though.
I have tried many different .534 tft-files, including NUT's.
Any ideas? Could this new mainboard be incompatible with the oldest firmwares? Sounds unlikely to me.
Thanks!
dape16 said:
I have rooted my Z1 many times without problem, first downgraded to .534, root with Bin4ry's root tool, then flash the .zip file from recovery and flash stripped .ftf with FlashTool.
By rooting this way I can keep my bootloader locked.
A couple of weeks ago I had to send my phone for repairs when the call speaker gave up and they changed the mainboard (new IMEI).
After this I can not downgrade to .534 anymore! It will stuck at a bootloop, with only the Sony logo showing. Downgrading to .257 (the version after .534) is no problem though.
I have tried many different .534 tft-files, including NUT's.
Any ideas? Could this new mainboard be incompatible with the oldest firmwares? Sounds unlikely to me.
Thanks!
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If it's incompatible with 534 then i'd be surprised, my guess is that it's a dodgy download and you should re-download the FTF file or an alternative and make sure it's the only thing that your computer is doing at the time, even check the MD5 checksum if it's available.
Are you flashing the full FTF file when downgrading and allowing for a wipe?
Only problem i've had when downgrading is losing the IMEI but after you've rooted , installed a custom recovery and installed a custom rom that'll come back anyway.
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If it's incompatible with 534 then i'd be surprised, my guess is that it's a dodgy download and you should re-download the FTF file or an alternative and make sure it's the only thing that your computer is doing at the time, even check the MD5 checksum if it's available.
Are you flashing the full FTF file when downgrading and allowing for a wipe?
Only problem i've had when downgrading is losing the IMEI but after you've rooted , installed a custom recovery and installed a custom rom that'll come back anyway.
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Thanks, yes I have tried with 5 different .534 ftf-files, all of them resulting in this bootloop. I am doing a full flash with wipe. Downgrading to .257 is working fine though, but then I cant root.
I am running out of ideas
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Thanks, yes I have tried with 5 different .534 ftf-files, all of them resulting in this bootloop. I am doing a full flash with wipe. Downgrading to .257 is working fine though, but then I cant root.
I am running out of ideas
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Are you branded? What model is the phone C6903? C6902?
don't forget the obvious stones
dladz said:
Are you branded? What model is the phone C6903? C6902?
don't forget the obvious stones
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It's not branded. No SIM-lock, Generic_NCB customization. C6903.
Now I have tried with older versions of FlashTool and I tried other USB-ports too, but no success. Newer firmwares then .534 flashes just fine.
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It's not branded. No SIM-lock, Generic_NCB customization. C6903.
Now I have tried with older versions of FlashTool and I tried other USB-ports too, but no success. Newer firmwares then .534 flashes just fine.
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Which version of flashtool are you using currently? I've found that some firmwares just don't like the older flashtools.
What about different USB cables? Shouldn't make any difference but I thought I'd ask. I find it odd the way it'll work for newer but not older firmwares, perhaps someone else should chime in with an idea.
I'm all out, as this isn't something i've come across and everything i'd try myself i've told you.
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Which version of flashtool are you using currently? I've found that some firmwares just don't like the older flashtools.
What about different USB cables? Shouldn't make any difference but I thought I'd ask. I find it odd the way it'll work for newer but not older firmwares, perhaps someone else should chime in with an idea.
I'm all out, as this isn't something i've come across and everything i'd try myself i've told you.
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Thanks for your help.
Now I have tried with another computer and another USB-cable, and also tried to flash the older .526 and .518 firmwares. Tried FlashTool 0.9.1.6 and .5 and .4.
Same result.
Seems very strange that this new mainboard should not be compatible with these firmwares?
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Thanks for your help.
Now I have tried with another computer and another USB-cable, and also tried to flash the older .526 and .518 firmwares. Tried FlashTool 0.9.1.6 and .5 and .4.
Same result.
Seems very strange that this new mainboard should not be compatible with these firmwares?
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It does seem strange and i'm pretty much out of ideas myself for you m8. Mad one that.
dladz said:
It does seem strange and i'm pretty much out of ideas myself for you m8. Mad one that.
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Thanks anyway, I hope somebody else has an idea
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Thanks anyway, I hope somebody else has an idea
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click thanks dude,
Hope you work it out
Just had a thought, can't you now root later firmwares?
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click thanks dude,
Hope you work it out
Just had a thought, can't you now root later firmwares?
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I dont think it is possible to root any firmware later then .534? Not without unlocking bootloader?
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I dont think it is possible to root any firmware later then .534? Not without unlocking bootloader?
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yes it is, any 4.2 FW can be rooted
Its just that 534 can be done using [NUT]s installation of dual recovery
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yes it is, any 4.2 FW can be rooted
Its just that 534 can be done using [NUT]s installation of dual recovery
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Thanks, but I have tried both vroot and Bin4ry's root tool on .257. Didn't work. Is there any other method for rooting?
Edit: Sorry, didn't see the link in your signature, will try that.
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Thanks, but I have tried both vroot and Bin4ry's root tool on .257. Didn't work. Is there any other method for rooting?
Edit: Sorry, didn't see the link in your signature, will try that.
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DO NOT USE VROOT!!!!
It send your IMEI number to an IP address in china..
I cant believe people still do not know this
gregbradley said:
DO NOT USE VROOT!!!!
It send your IMEI number to an IP address in china..
I cant believe people still do not know this
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Well, I tried vroot because it is in the first posts in the "Ultimate Xperia Z1 Guide" sticky thread.
Since I have always used Bin4ry's tool, I guess I have not noticed any thread about vroot being dangerous.
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yes it is, any 4.2 FW can be rooted
Its just that 534 can be done using [NUT]s installation of dual recovery
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Right now I have .257 firmware flashed which is a 4.2.2.
I have tried to root with Bin4ry, vroot, Kingo, and [NUT]s recovery, but it is not possible.
Everywhere I look people say that it is a must to downgrade to .534 when rooting with a locked bootloader.
What have I missed?
Thanks,
257 was the first one that closed that exploit, you have to go back further.
I know you say 534 does not flash for you, but what error does flashtool give?
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257 was the first one that closed that exploit, you have to go back further.
I know you say 534 does not flash for you, but what error does flashtool give?
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Thank you, I misunderstood an thought .257 was rootable too.
No error in Flashtool, flashes fine but is stuck on bootloop with Sony logo.
Tried .518, .526 and .534
make sure you do not exclude any part of the FTF and wipe everything,
Can you get a log from the phone?
Make sure you backup and clean your sdcard (So there is no trace of recovery files on there)
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make sure you do not exclude any part of the FTF and wipe everything,
Can you get a log from the phone?
Make sure you backup and clean your sdcard (So there is no trace of recovery files on there)
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I have cleaned the internal sdcard and tried without external sdcard and simcard.
Don't think it is possible to get a log file from the phone while in bootloop?
If my new mainboard is incompatible with .534 and older, I guess other users would have the same problem?
i installed 4.4.4. for the N version, now that i want to install stock german 4.3 and then update to international i get error. It seems i cant downgrade back to 4.3 from 4.4.4. Any idea how to get international version on now?
Well i installed my country version and it said error on the end and went in to emergency mode, then i flshed revocery and phone turned on. But it says i cant update from 4.3 because its moded
klemen241 said:
i installed 4.4.4. for the N version, now that i want to install stock german 4.3 and then update to international i get error. It seems i cant downgrade back to 4.3 from 4.4.4. Any idea how to get international version on now?
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OMG! It seems we're gonna have many problems with this firmware version. Yesterday, after flashing the new 4.4.4 via Odin, I wanted to reinstall it for twice, and PC Odin brings me FAILED in step SetupConnection. Then, I tried to do a Downgrade to 4.3, getting the same error. I don't know what's happening but I don't wanna be stuck in this firmware forever!
Please, can anyone lend a hand?
most probably we won't be able to downgrade as it was 4.3->4.1, so we can't 4.4->4.3 due to some bootloader changes
I think you'd have to wait until 4.4.4 for non-N model is released as odin package
adamuadamu said:
most probably we won't be able to downgrade as it was 4.3->4.1, so we can't 4.4->4.3 due to some bootloader changes
I think you'd have to wait until 4.4.4 for non-N model is released as odin package
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actualy i am in 4.3 now, but not german one, german one wont flahs. I used slovenian one since i am slovenian, and it didnt boot untill i installed costum recovery. So yea, all is so very confusing. I think i will just stay on s5 lite rom
ps. anyone knows whay german rom fails right away to flash?
adamuadamu said:
most probably we won't be able to downgrade as it was 4.3->4.1, so we can't 4.4->4.3 due to some bootloader changes
I think you'd have to wait until 4.4.4 for non-N model is released as odin package
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actualy i am in 4.3 now, but not german one, german one wont flahs. I used slovenian one since i am slovenian, and it didnt boot untill i installed costum recovery. So yea, all is so very confusing. I think i will just stay on s5 lite rom.
of course I don't know how risky it could be with new bootloader, but keeping in mind that people downgraded from 4.3 to 4.1 using mobile odin (no bootloader change) it could be worth trying
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of course I don't know how risky it could be with new bootloader, but keeping in mind that people downgraded from 4.3 to 4.1 using mobile odin (no bootloader change) it could be worth trying
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i did manage to install german rom with mobile odin, but i still cant update, it says your software was modified
klemen241 said:
i did manage to install german rom with mobile odin, but i still cant update, it says your software was modified
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try to do full wipe, some users in Polish forums reported the DBT 4.3 FW didn't start until full wipe
adamuadamu said:
try to do full wipe, some users in Polish forums reported the DBT 4.3 FW didn't start until full wipe
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nope, still cant update. The problem is status, i cant change it to original
klemen241 said:
nope, still cant update. The problem is status, i cant change it to original
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wanam xposed can fake the system status, but I don't know if it'd work in this particular case
anyway, full odin package for 4.4 non-N appeared, so no need to tamper at 4.3 DBT just to be able to update anymore http://live.samsung-updates.com/details/34084/Galaxy_S_3_LTE/GT-I9305/DBT/I9305XXUFNI3.html
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wanam xposed can fake the system status, but I don't know if it'd work in this particular case
anyway, full odin package for 4.4 non-N appeared, so no need to tamper at 4.3 DBT just to be able to update anymore http://live.samsung-updates.com/details/34084/Galaxy_S_3_LTE/GT-I9305/DBT/I9305XXUFNI3.html
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yea installed it. Thanks for help anyway
The ODIN package for the GT-I9305 is avaible at SamMobile
adamuadamu said:
most probably we won't be able to downgrade as it was 4.3->4.1, so we can't 4.4->4.3 due to some bootloader changes
I think you'd have to wait until 4.4.4 for non-N model is released as odin package
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yes i have 4.4.4 now, moderators can delete or lock or whatever they do