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My touch screen stopped working on my phone, but the screen is still visible. I'm assuming it's the digitizer. I was wondering if anybody has done or tried replacing only the digitizer. Does this work, is it better just to replace both? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Save yourself the headache
Just replace the complete screen unit (lcd + digitizer).
The digitizer is held on the screen with some super strong adhesive that is nearly impossible to get off cleanly. Also, there are three (4?) thin ribbon tabs that have to be soldered to the board on the rear of the lcd. Unless you are really confident with a soldering iron, it is extremely hard to do.
I replaced my screen unit in about a half hour. Make sure you go to the wiki and find one of the excellent disassembly guides before you start.
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Thanks, that's exactly the information i needed to know. I found the fon logix video. Is it only a t6 tool i need, or do i also need a t5. I have seen conflicting info on this? Thanks again.
I got my scren unit from ebay, and it included a torx driver and a plastic case tool. I honestly can't remember what size came in the kit, because I used my own torx set. Im pretty sure its just the one size, though.
Good luck!
You might find this information interesting.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=116836
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i always replace only the touch screen. okay i've done it aprox 30 times. But i never broke one.
if you decide to replace only the touchscreen, there are 2 types. thus check which on you have, and i found out that sometimes reassamble, and cleaning can help.
good luck.
torx is 5 and 6, 6 for opening the back of the phone, 5 for the screen part removal of the body and opening it. you need an opening tool!!
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is there a terrible adhesive between the screen and digitizer, as the second poster mentioned? how difficult is it to deal with?
just cut away with snapoff knives. It wil break in more pieses. (the glas that is) just be carefull, and take your time
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Thanks for all of the info, i went ahead and purchased the screen with the digitizer and tools. One thing i have noticed though is the d-pad has stopped working also, i'm using a custom rom so i'm not sure if it's just that or it's something else. i will prob re-image after i replace screen.
Abel2007 said:
just cut away with snapoff knives. It wil break in more pieses. (the glas that is) just be carefull, and take your time
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Well, guess I was a smarty pants and bought my stuff before consulting XDA...as such, I ONLY bought the touchscreen rather than the entire new unit. Cheaper, yes, but I had no idea about the adhesive until just now. My only question is, once I remove the old screen from the LCD with a razor blade, how do I affix the new one?
Anyone?
i would love to know this too because i have to also replace my digitizer!
drokkon said:
Well, guess I was a smarty pants and bought my stuff before consulting XDA...as such, I ONLY bought the touchscreen rather than the entire new unit. Cheaper, yes, but I had no idea about the adhesive until just now. My only question is, once I remove the old screen from the LCD with a razor blade, how do I affix the new one?
Anyone?
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I used rtv gasket maker the transparent blue one worked well.
you can find it in automotive section. Actually any silcone will work.
also can use double sided tape but needs to be very thin
I've already changing my digitizer, but it doesn't seem to work. So I've change the whole part. cost me $20 more on ebay.
my advice is to change the whole package with the lcd too.
Ok, had a great Thanksgiving until I dropped my Bionic on concrete outside. I guess it landed on the top corner where the power button is, the glass is smashed there and partially missing with major cracks going downwards over half the screen. Miraculously, the LCD display itself is undamaged, only the outer glass. Also the digitizer is still functional. I researched the parts and found that the digitizer and outer glass are one piece on top of the LCD. I couldn't locate any teardown video showing how to take these things apart properly but I did find photos and a new digitizer/glass assembly on E-bay for only $35 bucks. I had sucessfully replaced one of these on a motorola Cliq and figured the Bionic should be easier since it lacks the sliding keyboard. I took a T5 driver and seperation tool and had it disassembeled in 5 minutes. I love how easy it is! I reassembled it until the new screen arrives, hopefully this week.
Since I couldn't find a video of the teardown (and assuming no one else has either) I would be willing to video the job when I replace the screen IF there is sufficient interest.
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Ok, heres the video of the teardown and replacement I did. Enjoy!
Part 1 (Teardown): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqPLk2XNYxs
Part 2 (Re-assembly): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9CMXcVweRU
I would love to see a tear down video. Also where are you getting the replacement parts?
Check ebay for "Bionic digitizer"
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+1 on the video. It would be very helpful.
Ok, I will post a vid to YouTube when the digitizer arrives and post the link in this thread
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I cracked my bionic glass last weekend and just got my replacement screen.
I'm about ready to dig in to fix it, but in reading repair guides for other phones, it appears that the LCD could be glued to the glass. When you had yours open, did you see if the LCD is glued to the glass/digitizer assembly on the Bionic? I'm hesitant to open it up until I know since its still working with the cracks.
I paid $50 at Dealsishop and it came in 7 days.
Love to see your repair guide.
Here you guys go. The glass is not fused to the lcd fyi. Not a video but looks easy enough.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Teardown/6449/1
Thanks - the iFixit teardown was very helpful.
I finished and it works!
My only question is that the glass was stuck to the frame with a thin double stick tape. I tried to re-use it, but there were multiple gasket type shapes that didn't keep their shapes. What do people use for this material?
pasp10 said:
I cracked my bionic glass last weekend and just got my replacement screen.
I'm about ready to dig in to fix it, but in reading repair guides for other phones, it appears that the LCD could be glued to the glass. When you had yours open, did you see if the LCD is glued to the glass/digitizer assembly on the Bionic? I'm hesitant to open it up until I know since its still working with the cracks.
I paid $50 at Dealsishop and it came in 7 days.
Love to see your repair guide.
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I tore down the phone once, everything but taking the glass out of the frame. The LCD was NOT stuck to the glass/digitizer. The only adhesive material I encountered was the large sticker with the IMEI numbers and such in the battery compartment. That thing actually causes the back piece and underlying piece to stick together. Felt like I was going to bend the pieces when I tried separating them because of that sticker, so I just removed the sticker first and was a lot easier.
pasp10 said:
Thanks - the iFixit teardown was very helpful.
I finished and it works!
My only question is that the glass was stuck to the frame with a thin double stick tape. I tried to re-use it, but there were multiple gasket type shapes that didn't keep their shapes. What do people use for this material?
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Well I only payed $35 for mine on E-Bay, they say it's OEM part and all, lets hope its the real deal. Also, atleast in the photo, it LOOKS like it includes the entire piece, the frame around the glass and all. Did you get something a little different? Could be the photo is misleading on the E-Bay item too...we will find out soon enough.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200671887593
Never broke any screens but +1000 for helping community! Your services wont go unapeiciated.
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My glass/digitizer looks the same as the one on ebay. It does not come with the frame around the glass (the part that says Verizon on the bottom). The glass is held in the frame only with double stick tape around the perimeter - works really well because it was tough to get off without damaging the frame. I'm thinking I may need to buy some of that tape and re-do it if it gets loose. Also, there were little gasket-like things around the openings that I couldn't re-use.
questions...
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My glass/digitizer looks the same as the one on ebay. It does not come with the frame around the glass (the part that says Verizon on the bottom). The glass is held in the frame only with double stick tape around the perimeter - works really well because it was tough to get off without damaging the frame. I'm thinking I may need to buy some of that tape and re-do it if it gets loose. Also, there were little gasket-like things around the openings that I couldn't re-use.
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So I am about to order the screen and begin the replacement process. Do you think there is enough stick left in the tape to hold the screen to the frame for now? With it put back together, does it force the screen to but up against the frame without the tape doing anything? What does the gasket go around? Did you have to use any of the tools listed in the tear down (besides the t5 screwdriver)
Thanks for the help...
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So I am about to order the screen and begin the replacement process. Do you think there is enough stick left in the tape to hold the screen to the frame for now? With it put back together, does it force the screen to but up against the frame without the tape doing anything? What does the gasket go around? Did you have to use any of the tools listed in the tear down (besides the t5 screwdriver)
Thanks for the help...
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The tape is holding for me so far, but I don't think it is right. It's not bulging or anything, but it seems loose in spots. There are holes for the speaker and camera. I'm guessing the gaskets are to keep dust/moisture out. I used the t5 and a couple of plastic tools to separate the parts. The other thing not mentioned in the teardown is that there is a large sticker just below the battery that keeps the back from coming out. I just pulled it back halfway and it releases. Then after everything is reassembled, the sticker can be put back like new.
it's funny,
because the SAME thing happened to me...i am looking fwd to your video/tips on the replacement.
I ordered the glass, and the repair kit online 60bucks total. (prices everywhere have gone up in past 24 -48 hours!)
weird.
The local shop says they can repair for 125 bucks. So hopefully i can do this.
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Sam
Done!
Ok, the digitizer/glass arrived today and after a chill with some beers I decided to take a crack at the replacement job.. so please look over my clumsiness.
I experienced the same issues as PASP10 concerning the adhesive for the glass and the slight 'bulging' after the replacement. This is a result of the replacement not being bonded to the frame as well as the original. Everything else is perfect. I will probaly be looking for a kind of epoxy to line the frame with and re-do it later.
Right now, I'm working on converting the HD video of the rebuild I did and uploading to YouTube. Once finished, I will post the link in the 1st post of this thread. Thanks all!
sammyguyana said:
it's funny,
because the SAME thing happened to me...i am looking fwd to your video/tips on the replacement.
I ordered the glass, and the repair kit online 60bucks total. (prices everywhere have gone up in past 24 -48 hours!)
weird.
The local shop says they can repair for 125 bucks. So hopefully i can do this.
KEEP US POSTED!!
Sam
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These are still $35 bucks on e-Bay.. Did you not check there?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200671887593
Tear down videos have been posted in first message... loving my shiny new screen again
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thank you!
hey man, that video was great.
I just got my screen in the mail today. Looks good. I am still waiting for the screwdriver repair toolkit.
Can you do me a favor and send me the whole unedited video via pm or something? I could pm you my email addy, thank you!
Sam
sammyguyana said:
hey man, that video was great.
I just got my screen in the mail today. Looks good. I am still waiting for the screwdriver repair toolkit.
Can you do me a favor and send me the whole unedited video via pm or something? I could pm you my email addy, thank you!
Sam
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Thanks man. I took it back apart later .because I didn't like the "looseness" of the new glass, it was missing the adhesive of the original. I put a small bead of some Plumbers Goop adhesive/sealant around the edge of the frame under the glass since I already had a tube and it seems very close consistency to the original stuff. It worked great
As far as the original video, it was several gigabytes of HD video lol
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hey guys, i have a prob with my csl mi410 (x6)
when im taking picture, it seems lil bit goldish, when i check at my camera, oh god there are lot of dust inside..
i think it troubling my lense...
anyone know how to clean it?
to dissasembly it??
thanks
Well if the shell design is the same as the Motorola triumph then there are 2 t-5 torx screws towards the bottom, underneath the battery cover. Then the case kinda prys apart. Just be careful not to damage anything.
marc12868 said:
Well if the shell design is the same as the Motorola triumph then there are 2 t-5 torx screws towards the bottom, underneath the battery cover. Then the case kinda prys apart. Just be careful not to damage anything.
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yes, i found only 2 t-screw underneath d battery, but i can*t take it apart, its kinda locked from inside
are there a sensitive cables stick on backcase? can you please make tutor with pic or video??
service centre is soo hard to find here
Well either get a flat head screwdriver or a guitar pick or something like that and kind of run it around the edges lifting gently. There are quite a few locking things on the inside so you kind of have to push against them to get it apart... I might make a tutorial soon.
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Well either get a flat head screwdriver or a guitar pick or something like that and kind of run it around the edges lifting gently. There are quite a few locking things on the inside so you kind of have to push against them to get it apart... I might make a tutorial soon.
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if it not bothering you please do,
it's will be very usefull, especially for newbie like me..
and it will be the first assemble tutor for x6 i think, b'coz i've been searching almost 3 day and got nothing...
thankyou
Ok well when I get time I will try and make a tutorial. It may be slightly different, because it's gonna be a Motorola Triumph, but it should basically be the same. I'm pretty sure the shells are put together the same, just a different exterior.
anyone??
Has anybody replaced the bottom speaker before? Google hasn't been able to find me any guides on how to do it. Ifixit implies that it is soldered to the motherboard, but another repair site says it can be pried off.
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Ifixit implies that it is soldered to the motherboard, but another repair site says it can be pried off.
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Ifixit is usually right. Also, if something is surface-mount soldered to the board... Yes, you can pry it off... No you wouldn't be able to solder a new one on without the right tools and skills.
I'm hoping it's more like wedged between the board and the grille. Even if it's not it can't be more than a couple leads to solder.
Just replaced it. Very straight forward if you have ever had the phone apart. It is glued down to the motherboard and has contact pins on the backside of it. When I removed the broken one it took the adhesive with it. I used a thin film of super glue to get the new one to stick. If there is anybody else considering replacing the bottom speaker I would be willing to write up a guide. Considering how little info I have found on this I don't think its something many people do.
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Just replaced it. Very straight forward if you have ever had the phone apart. It is glued down to the motherboard and has contact pins on the backside of it. When I removed the broken one it took the adhesive with it. I used a thin film of super glue to get the new one to stick. If there is anybody else considering replacing the bottom speaker I would be willing to write up a guide. Considering how little info I have found on this I don't think its something many people do.
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I don't have a need at the moment, but it would be nice to have the write up available just in case.
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Just replaced it. Very straight forward if you have ever had the phone apart. It is glued down to the motherboard and has contact pins on the backside of it. When I removed the broken one it took the adhesive with it. I used a thin film of super glue to get the new one to stick. If there is anybody else considering replacing the bottom speaker I would be willing to write up a guide. Considering how little info I have found on this I don't think its something many people do.
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I have to do the same on mine, bottom speaker not working. Is it visible ones you remove mid frame?
Yes once the midframe is removed it is very obvious where it is. It will be the largest component on the PCB at the bottom of the device. It is held down with some adhesive and uses contact pins for the connection. It was very easy to remove and replace. If you buy a replacement on eBay you may get a damaged one like I did. It appeared dented and crackles when it is installed. I was going to send it back but just never got around to it. I will be picking up another speaker and replacing it again.
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Yes once the midframe is removed it is very obvious where it is. It will be the largest component on the PCB at the bottom of the device. It is held down with some adhesive and uses contact pins for the connection. It was very easy to remove and replace. If you buy a replacement on eBay you may get a damaged one like I did. It appeared dented and crackles when it is installed. I was going to send it back but just never got around to it. I will be picking up another speaker and replacing it again.
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Thanks, going to order one on ebay and hope it doesn't come damage. Good luck with the replacement.
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Just replaced it. Very straight forward if you have ever had the phone apart. It is glued down to the motherboard and has contact pins on the backside of it. When I removed the broken one it took the adhesive with it. I used a thin film of super glue to get the new one to stick. If there is anybody else considering replacing the bottom speaker I would be willing to write up a guide. Considering how little info I have found on this I don't think its something many people do.
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Are the top and bottom speakers the same part? I'm seeing tons of top speakers online but very few for the bottom, anybody got a part # by chance?
No, bottom speaker is different from the top. I don't see part numbers listed but if your search term includes lower you should find it. Anything labeled earpiece is upper.
Hi hope someone can offer some advice, I have replaced the screen on my Z3 compact. Screen works fine but it is lifting and not sticking. I have tried different types of tape, I have applied tape to the edge of the screen itself and the frame it's still lifting. Please can someone offer some advice
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Any one got any advice, this must be an issue somewhere.
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Any one got any advice, this must be an issue somewhere.
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Consider buying a B-7000 glue, it is used for displays mostly, I was advised by a friend to use it, since my screen has unglued as well, and he has already repaired couple of Z3/Z3c devices with it, and there were no reported lifted screens since than. For the back panel, you can use double sided tape, but adding B-7000 glue on one side (to avoid cracking sounds, depending on the used tape probably). You can do a bit of searching on Youtube for repair videos, I recall watching some with the mentioned B-7000 glue, easy to find.
I haven't done it myself, but I will very soon, dust has filled my front cam, and proximity sensor.
Good luck.
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Consider buying a B-7000 glue, it is used for displays mostly, I was advised by a friend to use it, since my screen has unglued as well, and he has already repaired couple of Z3/Z3c devices with it, and there were no reported lifted screens since than. For the back panel, you can use double sided tape, but adding B-7000 glue on one side (to avoid cracking sounds, depending on the used tape probably). You can do a bit of searching on Youtube for repair videos, I recall watching some with the mentioned B-7000 glue, easy to find.
I haven't done it myself, but I will very soon, dust has filled my front cam, and proximity sensor.
Good luck.
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other solution than b7000 ? from what i read on forums, after a while also this glue become "unglued"...clean, unclean, is still da same.
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other solution than b7000 ? from what i read on forums, after a while also this glue become "unglued"...clean, unclean, is still da same.
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I think B7000 will get the job done. I have used it for my device and it has been a month already, screen and back plate haven't moved a bit, its like new. One thing to remember though, you have to make sure the whole frame is COMPLETELY covered with glue, otherwise it will not be enough to hold the screen. I made a mess at first try, because I missed some spots and the screen lifted on sides, next time though, I've checked 3 times for any empty spots and applied glue to those spots, now everything is perfect. Of course, you should cover frame only, avoid applying that much so that glue is dripping inside the phone itself.
Good luck
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I think B7000 will get the job done. I have used it for my device and it has been a month already, screen and back plate haven't moved a bit, its like new. One thing to remember though, you have to make sure the whole frame is COMPLETELY covered with glue, otherwise it will not be enough to hold the screen. I made a mess at first try, because I missed some spots and the screen lifted on sides, next time though, I've checked 3 times for any empty spots and applied glue to those spots, now everything is perfect. Of course, you should cover frame only, avoid applying that much so that glue is dripping inside the phone itself.
Good luck
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Gooood,ill give it a shot. But i was thinking if must remove back cover and the screen for glue only a corner...the back cover doesnt have any problem, only the display in left corner is unglued. And if i must to remove thats, i must buy and that adezive black or simple use only b7000 ? Thanks
I have some of the B-7000. Stuck the screen down over a week ago appears to be fine. The only issue I have is that I think the glue has squeezed onto the front camera, the camera is now blurred. I don't use the front one so it's not a big problem.
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Gooood,ill give it a shot. But i was thinking if must remove back cover and the screen for glue only a corner...the back cover doesnt have any problem, only the display in left corner is unglued. And if i must to remove thats, i must buy and that adezive black or simple use only b7000 ? Thanks
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I have used the glue, it's fine, you don't need stickers
You can try applying the glue only in that corner as well, but I'm not sure how well will that fix the issue.
I had to remove the screen anyway to clean the notification led cutout and front camera, so I didn't care for the back plate sticker.
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I have used the glue, it's fine, you don't need stickers
You can try applying the glue only in that corner as well, but I'm not sure how well will that fix the issue.
I had to remove the screen anyway to clean the notification led cutout and front camera, so I didn't care for the back plate sticker.
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go0o0d thanks man