Hi everyone, tonight i left my n6 unplugged, this morning i've checked the battery status and i noticed that my screen on graph tells me that screen keeps turn on and off, but it seems to behave this way only when the flipcover is closed and the screen doesnt actually turn on...can someone tell me why?
RickStrom said:
Hi everyone, tonight i left my n6 unplugged, this morning i've checked the battery status and i noticed that my screen on graph tells me that screen keeps turn on and off, but it seems to behave this way only when the flipcover is closed and the screen doesnt actually turn on...can someone tell me why?
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Most probably it's the fault of the flip cover which is allowing the proximity sensor to be turned on sometimes. Just check if there is any major gap between the screen and flip give while it's closed
does your flip cover have auto-on? I.e., does it use a magnet to automatically turn on the screen when you open it? that causes my display to periodically turn on and off while the cover is closed. I ended up getting a flip case without auto-on.
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Hi guys,
Just got my case cover for the Nexus 6 from google play.
Nice cover overall, but just discover that when i open the cover the screen turn on, if i put the cover back, screen turn off.
Not so bad, but i really like the save battery of ambiant display, i would have prefer to have ambiant display when i open the cover.
Anyone know if i can force the use of ambiant display or disable the screen on when the cover is open ?
Thank you in advance for your help.
mav54fr said:
Hi guys,
Just got my case cover for the Nexus 6 from google play.
Nice cover overall, but just discover that when i open the cover the screen turn on, if i put the cover back, screen turn off.
Not so bad, but i really like the save battery of ambiant display, i would have prefer to have ambiant display when i open the cover.
Anyone know if i can force the use of ambiant display or disable the screen on when the cover is open ?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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This is normal behaviour when you have a cover with a magnet in it. I'm not aware of any way to circumvent it.
Yep i know. But it will be so much better if it can turn on the ambient display and not the full screen
Damit, just discover that magnetic cover dont work well with the nexus 6.
It seems it's not only the one sell by google play (case mate stand folio) but other case too.
The screen turn off the the cover is flip on the screen, but soon after the screen turn on again, with result of a very fast battery use, 50% in 4 hours.
Guess i'll ask a refound ASAP.
Anyway this thread doesn't have any meaning now, it can be close.
I found out that whenever a magnet is close to the screen (like the ones to be found in auto wake/sleep smart covers ) the screen will go off, as it should, but wakes up again after 10 seconds.
It will keep doing that forever: wake up, sleep due to inactivity, wake up, sleep, etc etc. It is obvious that the magnet is somehow triggering the screen to wake up.
You can easily reproduce this by placing a white board magnet on the device (place it between the hours and minutes of the lockscreen clock). Just wait and see what happens.
This means that you are certain to drain your battery when your phone is idle, sitting in a smart cover like the official one from Casemate.
I would love to use the smart wake, it worked flawlessly on the Nexus 5 but works only as a battery drainer on the N6
Is there anything that can be done about it? or is it a hardware issue?
plaktoets said:
I found out that whenever a magnet is close to the screen (like the ones to be found in auto wake/sleep smart covers ) the screen will go off, as it should, but wakes up again after 10 seconds.
It will keep doing that forever:
Is there anything that can be done about it? or is it a hardware issue?
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The magnet sensor of the N6 is under the M logo at the back.
When there is a magnet on the M or there above on the display the screen is switched off. And stays off, but . . . a weak magnet that moves a bit away may cause the problem you described.
The magnet sensor cannot be disabled (could not find an app). The solution is to remove the magnet from the cover.
BTW this may occur also with a (belt) case that has a magnet closure. That closure must be about 1 cm from the M logo.
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The magnet sensor of the N6 is under the M logo at the back.
When there is a magnet on the M or there above on the display the screen is switched off. And stays off, but . . . a weak magnet that moves a bit away may cause the problem you described.
The magnet sensor cannot be disabled (could not find an app). The solution is to remove the magnet from the cover.
BTW this may occur also with a (belt) case that has a magnet closure. That closure must be about 1 cm from the M logo.
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Thats interesting, i didnt know the sensor as at the back. When i place the magnet there, the behavior is different. It does not go on entirely, instead it goes to ambient display. But not consistently... Weird.
Anyway i purchased some cheap neodyium magnets from eBay that are supposed to be quite strong, maybe that will have the desired effect. I plan to attach them to my spigen cover.
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Anyway i purchased some cheap neodyium magnets from eBay that are supposed to be quite strong, maybe that will have the desired effect. I plan to attach them to my spigen cover.
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If you want to be sure that the magnet sensor is active (screen off) you need probably more magnets.
NLBeev said:
If you want to be sure that the magnet sensor is active (screen off) you need probably more magnets.
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That's OK, they come in ten
I've observed this too. I wrote a Tasker app to sound a notification everytime the screen turned on (since my casemate flip case was closed) just to prove I wasn't crazy. mine turns on with every magnet (auto sleep) case I've tried. this is with stock software.
after posting about this issue in one of the case threads in the nexus 6 accessories forum, it turned out not everyone experienced this issue. or at least they didn't know they did.
I just wanna know how Google can even sell the casemate case in the play store when this issue exists (at least for some)...
Xposed has a module that turns off the magnetic sensor. I have no idea if it works or not so look at the thread for it. My phone is naked so I don't have this problem.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621807
No software yet to disable the magnet sensor
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Xposed has a module that turns off the magnetic sensor. I have no idea if it works or not so look at the thread for it. My phone is naked so I don't have this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621807
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On the hard cover I mounted a small round metal plate (glue) at the same height as the M-logo at the back.
I did choose that place, because it is above the coil for wireless charging.
But. . . . the problem is that exactly there the magnet sensor is located.
So when the N6 was mounted at the neodymium magnet, the screen becomes black.
The first thing I tried is to disable the magnetic sensor with the xposed-module. Unfortunately is does not work on the N6 with Lollipop.
Xposed need to be updated.
My hardware solution is to glue the metal plate on the cover, about 1 cm below the M-logo. And then wireless charging is not possible (metal becomes hot).
I am using at the moment two ultra thin covers for the N6. One with metal for car use and another original to allow wireless charging.
Same problem with the official case mate cover, it is useless. I pulled mine from a shelf this week wondering why I wasn't using it, two days later "ahh, now I remember...". One of the many reasons I don't like this phone. Generally, Motorola does a nice job but when they don't, the phones are real duds. At least this problem is better than those with the screen protectors keeping the screen off when you make a call.
Someone mentioned a fix using gravity box for the ambient display activating in a pocket and causing phone calls and texts inadvertently; I think it was setting to keep the screen off if the proximity sensor was active, like in a pocket. It would probably work for this problem too.
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. . . a fix using gravity box for the ambient display activating in a pocket and causing phone calls and texts inadvertently.
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When a magnet stays close enough to the M-logo there is no problem. But most leather cases are flexible. Little movings will continuously activate and deactivate the magnet sensor. So the screen is frequently tuned on.
We need a software solution that turns the magnet sensor completely off.
In the meantime you need to remove the magnet from the case/cover and replace it with Velcro.
In some types of cases the magnet is not in the center. Put the N6 in the case with the M-logo turned away from the magnet.
When the magnet is about 1 cm away from the M-logo, the magnet sensor is not activated.
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When a magnet stays close enough to the M-logo there is no problem. But most leather cases are flexible. Little movings will continuously activate and deactivate the magnet sensor. So the screen is frequently tuned on.
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The update really didn't make a difference for this but I did notice that for the official cover, either I received a defective one or the magnet is extremely weak. Velcro won't help as it doesn't have a flap to keep it closed. I guess the prosimity sensor only works with a phone call.
I just got the phone last week and it’s always had a screen protector on it. I know many have issues with the proximity sensor covered but I don’t get how the phone should work. All my other phones turn off the display as you put the phone to your ear and on again if you move it away to look at something or end the call. The Nexus 6 just stays on until the screen time out and then I have to tap the power button to get the screen back.
I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?
Also, the Ambient display setting says it will turn on the display when you pick up the phone or get notifications. Never worked. ???
Bad phone, software or setting?
Thanks.
P.S. Why in God’s name are the volume buttons and to a lesser extent, the power button, dead center of the phone? I hit them every flipping time I pick it up. Is there a way to disable the volume buttons when the screen is off?
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I just got the phone last week and it’s always had a screen protector on it. I know many have issues with it covered but I don’t get how the phone should work. All my other phones turn off the display as you put the phone to your ear and on again if you move it away to look at something or end the call. The Nexus 6 just stays on until the screen time out and then I have to tap the power button to get the screen back.
I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within inches or so and jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?
Also, the Ambient display setting says it will turn on the display when you pick up the phone or get notifications. Never worked. ???
Bad phone, software or setting?
Thanks.
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my suggestion would be to take your screen protector off. when you pull away from thd phone, the screen should pop on, but it not doung that for you. over the past 8 months or so, ive been reading about this same issue. and its always fixed by raking off the screen protector. im fuessing that your screen protector is covering one of your sensors.
Understood but:
"I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
Can someone without a screen protector on chime in with naked sensor readings?
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Understood but:
"I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
Can someone without a screen protector on chime in with naked sensor readings?
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Readings the same.
Tanquen said:
Understood but:
"I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
Can someone without a screen protector on chime in with naked sensor readings?
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your phone has its own proximity sensor thats being blocked by your screen protector, probably. im telling you that of the very many that have been reporting thus issue, have no more issue when they remove the screen protector. its worth a try, isnt it?
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your phone has its own proximity sensor thats being blocked by your screen protector, probably. im telling you that of the very many that have been reporting thus issue, have no more issue when they remove the screen protector. its worth a try, isnt it?
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His screen is staying on tho. Usually with screen protector it stays off.
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His screen is staying on tho. Usually with screen protector it stays off.
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for most ppl it stays off, a few that ive read stay on non stop.
for example.. if it doesnt "see" your face get close, it wont turn off the screen.
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for most ppl it stays off, a few that ive read stay on non stop.
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Kewl. He needs to make sure ambient display is on in display settings. Also the buttons are in middle of phone so you can reach them holding phone normally.
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... its worth a try, isnt it?
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Yea, but the protector would not be usable afterwards and it was really hard to get it on clean and lined up and the sensor readings are the same. I thought the folks that had problems had stuck or sporadic readings.
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for most ppl it stays off, a few that ive read stay on non stop.
for example.. if it doesnt "see" your face get close, it wont turn off the screen.
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Mine can be toggled on and off with the power button, never gets stuck. It just acts like the proximity sensor mode during a call never activates. It only powers off after the normal screen timeout if you are still on the phone. The sensor does see me and sets the value the zero.
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Kewl. He needs to make sure ambient display is on in display settings. Also the buttons are in middle of phone so you can reach them holding phone normally.
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It’s on, even tried toggling it.
The buttons should be higher. I understand you can’t reach the power button on larger phones if on top of the phone but putting the volume at the center of gravity is crazy. It’s actually noticeably difficult to hold the phone without it dipping when grabbing it lower and that’s after training myself to grab it lower. I still forget and grab it in the middle like any brick sized object. I'm old, hands weak.
I have read here, somewhere, that the proximity sensor does not have a variable output. It's either off or on, so to speak.
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I have read here, somewhere, that the proximity sensor does not have a variable output. It's either off or on, so to speak.
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Probably yes but everyone who had a screen protector without a sensor cut out had to change it for one with a sensor cut out.
This is step 1. Even if this isn't the cause, it will cause problems later.
You say not variable. Sure on or off. That said, a protector can limit how close the "close" reference can be identified at.
Step 2 is a factory reset.
Unfortunately, can't troubleshooting without doing these steps.
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I have read here, somewhere, that the proximity sensor does not have a variable output. It's either off or on, so to speak.
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That is my understanding also and someone posted above that they have the same readings from the sensor without a screen protector. They did not say but I’m assuming their phone works as it should when on a call. Again: "I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
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Probably yes but everyone who had a screen protector without a sensor cut out had to change it for one with a sensor cut out.
This is step 1. Even if this isn't the cause, it will cause problems later.
You say not variable. Sure on or off. That said, a protector can limit how close the "close" reference can be identified at.
Step 2 is a factory reset.
Unfortunately, can't troubleshooting without doing these steps.
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I know, I know. I’ve read that many have had issues with screen protectors but I thought the folks that checked saw that the proximity sensor readings were also bad. Mine seem to be just what the phone would want to see.
I will take it off at some point and I guess I’ll be the first to verify that even if you use an app to monitor the proximity sensor readings and they look normal the protector can still cause an issue or it is something else.
I did find that the Ambient display will not work without screen lock turned on.
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I did find that the Ambient display will not work without screen lock turned on.
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True, because it needs a lock screen to display it.
The screen worked as it should randomly the other day. Only on the one call. I pulled the phone away to look at something and it turned the screen on. Put it to my ear and what do you know, it turned the screen off. Not worked again so far and I ran the sensor app right after the call and it showed just what it always has, zero. Anything close to the phone you get a zero every time, right away. The phone app just ignores the zero reading.
Hi,
I have a Moto G 2014 dual sim 5" phone (XT1068). For the last 6 months the screen as been turning black when I'm using it like it has gone to sleep. I hit the wake up button and the lock screen is displayed. I swipe the screen to unlock the phone and it then turns to a black screen again. I have to do this for around 30 seconds until the phone behaves normally again. It happens at random times. I have tried doing a factory reset but this didn't fix it. I then unlocked the bootloader and rooted it and stuck a custom ROM on it (Blisspop) but it is still doing it! Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks.
Tried reflashing stock?
Do you have it in a flip case?
spielleips said:
Do you have it in a flip case?
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Yes....it is in one with magnets that wakes it up when you open the flip case.
Vatsal said:
Tried reflashing stock?
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No, not yet. Do you think that might help?
Dagk66 said:
Yes....it is in one with magnets that wakes it up when you open the flip case.
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Same here. The magnets also turn the screen off. When you flip the lid around the back, they are strong enough to activate the sensor and turn the screen off.
There is an Xposed module which you can use to control this behavior. From memory (I don't have it installed right now) you can selectively tell it to ignore the turn off message but keep the turn on message. I think there was something about turning it off using the proximity sensor as well, so it will still turn off when you close the lid.
In fact, I'll install it again, I forgot how useful it is.
UPDATE: The Xposed module is called MagnetOff. If you want to have your phone turn off when you close your case, you'll need to look into an app to use the proximity sensor to do it (I used to use Tasker).
spielleips said:
Same here. The magnets also turn the screen off. When you flip the lid around the back, they are strong enough to activate the sensor and turn the screen off.
There is an Xposed module which you can use to control this behavior. From memory (I don't have it installed right now) you can selectively tell it to ignore the turn off message but keep the turn on message. I think there was something about turning it off using the proximity sensor as well, so it will still turn off when you close the lid.
In fact, I'll install it again, I forgot how useful it is.
UPDATE: The Xposed module is called MagnetOff. If you want to have your phone turn off when you close your case, you'll need to look into an app to use the proximity sensor to do it (I used to use Tasker).
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You might well have cracked it! I never thought of this. It is my wife's phone and she always folds the cover around the back. I have ordered a non magnetic wallet and will test with that. Is this 'Xposed module' an app that you can download from the play store? Would come in useful if thsi is what is causing it. Did you phone suffer from the same thing? I was already fighting with Motorola about the warranty cover because I had unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. If this is all it is then thank you so much!!!!!
spielleips said:
Same here. The magnets also turn the screen off. When you flip the lid around the back, they are strong enough to activate the sensor and turn the screen off.
There is an Xposed module which you can use to control this behavior. From memory (I don't have it installed right now) you can selectively tell it to ignore the turn off message but keep the turn on message. I think there was something about turning it off using the proximity sensor as well, so it will still turn off when you close the lid.
In fact, I'll install it again, I forgot how useful it is.
UPDATE: The Xposed module is called MagnetOff. If you want to have your phone turn off when you close your case, you'll need to look into an app to use the proximity sensor to do it (I used to use Tasker).
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Just seen your update! Thanks very much! I will keep you posted.
Dagk66 said:
Just seen your update! Thanks very much! I will keep you posted.
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You're very welcome, hopefully it solves your problem.
I've got into the habit of keeping one finger in between the cover and the phone when I flip it around, so I don't use the software anymore. The main reason I originally found it was for the magnetic phone holder in my car. If I put it too much too the left the screen would turn off and keep turning off when I turned it on, but I don't use it any more.
That's totally fixed it! Thanks so much. :good:
Not had the phone long but wondered if theres a flip case that will turn off screen when closed and turn on when opened? Does this phone have the right hardware to do this?
coercri said:
Not had the phone long but wondered if theres a flip case that will turn off screen when closed and turn on when opened? Does this phone have the right hardware to do this?
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Hello, I highly doubt since the phone lacks a physical proximity sensor and only relies on a gyro to turn the screen/on and off. You could just use the built-in screen-lock widget that MIUI has. I know, quite drastically different from just flipping the flap and expecting the screen to turn off but it is what it is.
Thanks,at least I know now.