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Google confirms no Nexus Two=Higher Resale Price for Nexus One?

Sadly, Google CEO Eric Schmidt has confirmed that there wont be a Nexus Two:
http://androinica.com/2010/07/05/go...oming-that-means-a-nexus-two-is-coming-right/
Im actually really disappointed, as I planned on selling my Nexus One to upgrade to the Nexus Two. Then it made me wonder....I wonder now if the resale price on the Nexus One will go higher, as this is the only phone Google had directly manufactured for them?
I managed to get 120 euros for my old G1 when I sold it, and it was a year old (I babied it and kept it in FLAWLESS condition). I paid 370 Euros for my Nexus One (contract free) from someone who had purchased it from Google directly and only had it for a week. I wonder now if when January comes around, if I can get more for it now?
Would you sell your Nexus One later this year if you knew you could get more for it than what you paid? And if you could, do you think its worth it to sell it or hold onto it? Do you think Nexus Ones that came directly from Google vs a carrier will be worth more?
Thoughts?
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I paid $199 for my AT&T 3G Band Nexus One & Dock... I'm pretty sure I could get back what I paid now, even if they do make a N2

They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone

Then what will be the next phone to receive updates without carrier consent? Or the next developer phone entirely? Or the next phone with fastboot OEM unlock? There may not be a Nexus two, but there needs to be a equivalent.

My nexus is going in my permanent collection I think. It's too nice of a phone to sell when I'm done with it. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but It's almost like a collectors phone in a way.

Dai323 said:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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yep...and then it's exclusive status will cause it to sell out faster...maybe the year after they can up it to 500K and soon the Nexus brand will be widely known as quality and exclusivity..."oh you have an iPhone 6? well **BAM** I have a Nexus 3, you were saying?"

You guys are forgetting that Google has never really been about content CREATION. The nexus was some kind of weird test for them and their production/marketing teams. They're much happier (as an organization) to either be a link from others' created content or to provide backend support for others. They don't want to be in the production, direct selling, QA, and support business. This is why you'll probably never see another google phone.

very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.

jjss75 said:
very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(

they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.

kolyan said:
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
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dedicated GPU and the newer multitouch sensors....oh I'd like the touch buttons to be either heavily improved or replaced with good quality hard buttons that look like the Legend's

Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!

Tech_Boy said:
Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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That's rumored for this winter: http://androidspin.com/2010/06/24/rumor-dual-core-800mhz-phone-hitting-t-mobile-before-holidays/

im gonna hang on to alexis, my nexus, for a bit and retire it as i did my adp1. i think the htc sidekick looks like a worthy replacement in the specs but if its got a ui over stock android im out. Nothing beats having a unbranded device.

i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...

Dai323 said:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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Honestly mate, that's what's happened to the iPhone, don't cha think? At least that's how it is in Singapore. Every other schmuck has an iPhone. To think that not too long ago, anything with an "i" as the first letter in its name was something to be proud of. Now it's a phone for the masses.
What I'm trying to say is, I suppose Schmidt had his heart in the right place when he decided to announce that Google's pulled the plug on the project..
However having said that, a "limited edition" every year (to the date, e.g. 5 Jan 2011 for N2) would be wicked

DMaverick50 said:
i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time

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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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yea you could forcestop the sense homescreen, but that's about it...you couldn't do anything about the systemwide integration of sense.
If these OEMs made their skins like home replacements or something and simply disabled stock launcher that'd be great...that way regular joes would use their OS and the more tech savvy people would easily disable the OEM home replacement. Then updates would probably happen faster as well.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
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I don't think you need to go looking for a phone as such, I think they find you in a way.....
I went to the shop for my upgrade and saw the G1 for the first time, bang! that was it! that was the handset I wanted.
I then wanted the Hero and I'm now on the Nexus.
Of all the phones out now there is truly not one I want, I'd love a mash up of a couple though! (Samsung S Amoled screen, Desire radio, 8mb camera with Dual flash, HD video, hard buttons...etc).
Basically, until a new hadset comes out, makes me want I don't go looking.

REAL or FAKE GT-N7000

Hey check out this GT-N7000 a friend of mine blew $350 on and tell me what you think? I vote FAKE! Pictures attached

Fake, i think even the android os is fake.

jonpaslim said:
Fake, i think even the android os is fake.
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The factory mode is entering what we know it as download mode. The factory mode basically test the functionality of the phone...lol Clever little tricksters. Oh well, glad it wasn't my $350 or we would be having a serious problem right now!

Very fake, cant even get the screen size and res right in the system info
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Hardware looks convincing.
-Its lacking TouchWizz
-Settings are Froyo style (though it reads "4.0.3")
-1.5GHz Dualcore (wtf? NOTE is 1.4ghz)
-5inch (wtf? NOTE is 5.3")
-qHD (wtf? NOTE is 800p)
...a clever copy. It may be worth $350, you never know.

Real fake
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This is not just replica only, Its IMEI also tempered
It is stealed from N7000, and it may put you in trouble.

100% fake. I understand your friend was told he's buying the real Note ? If so, get his money back ASAP

It would be good to see whether ODIN would detect it or not in its so called 'factory mode'
It look all right i think I wouldnt pay $350 for it and I most definitely wouldnt have it for my own use, But as a semi decent phone for a teenager or something it would suffice if the price was right.
Is there anything the Chinese cannot do ?????

Of course it is fake China phone. It's clear to see it is running on mtk chip and because it has 2 IMEI numbers it is probably dual sim.Probably real body but nothing about the rest is real. I have a Chinese clone of the HTC HD7 and it looks exactly the same as the real item - even came in real HTC box with HTC accesories. Only thing is it runs android and not windows, has mtk chip and dual sims.
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Just looking at how the rear camera isn't in the center makes me crack up xD

Only thing is it runs android and not windows said:
So you got a better OS then you bargained for,hehe
So, we cause a triple murder before breakfast, start a race war before dinner - that's uh, that's a pretty good day.
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thats a chinees imitation you can buy that from almost every phone:crying:
they are almost always dualsim

China try to rule the world with their fake stuff
Made in china = fake :laugh:

could not get a nexus 4? may be it is good!

Hallo,
so i am one of the people who could not get a nexus 4 from the funny Store because of unknown erros in the ordering system! (after a call they say u have one, next day call the told me that there is no transaction)!
I personally (like many other) do not believe that the Nexus 4 is out of stock! unless they hat only 1000 pieces!
I believe there it is one of the following:
either
- It is a markting game! we do not have any information about how many pieces were sold! .... not really sure
or
- Google do not trust this LG nexus really and did offered only limited pieces to be sold, to see how does the Nexus 4 do in the every day use! a kind of real life test!, so they can (maybe/maybe not) prevent the failures in the next shipment of nexus 4. And that is why google did not set a pre-order option on the funny Store!
As i can see it is really better that many of us could not get a nexus 4 first shipment (may be last shipment too!). I also do not like to buy a phone which i did not hold in my hand! or a phone which is not really tested yet!
So be happy like me because u did not buy the nexus 4 yet!
WBR
Siemens Lover

I'm sorry but this sounds like your trying to convince you're self and others that its OK you didn't get. BTW I did get one and am stoked. I'll test it and let u know.
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Rosetta Stone.

rottensalad said:
I'm sorry but this sounds like your trying to convince you're self and others that its OK you didn't get. BTW I did get one and am stoked. I'll test it and let u know.
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No i am not, i can still get one for 60$ above the price of the funny Store, that is not the Problem.
Then plz can u explain to me why was that not really professional from the Master Google?

Funny how none of those reasons could actually make someone "happy" they didn't get one... its not like you just broke the news that the device is a nuclear time bomb at T - 6:66

Well, everything has its good side. Those who weren't able to get a Nexus 4 can wait and see people's impression about this device, more reviews (besides the wide anandtech review), possible device issues, etc.
I admit I will buy a Nexus 4 as soon as it becomes avaliable again, but I'm also worried about the non-AOSP thing. So let's see hot it goes now on.

That's exactly what I told myself on my way to work after my attempts to place an order failed - until an hour later when my wallet showed an accepted order along with confirmation email-and I changed my mind:laugh:

OP that sounds really stupid. period.

I personally think that it's better to wait, since I want to see how durable the device is. And for the most part, I will be buying my Nexus 4 when either Ballistic Cases/Otterbox/Trident release a case for this phone, idk something about that back glass gets me a little worried about how sturdy this phone is...

I don't know how you can say that...I had to cry myself to sleep
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the grapes are sour

Sparta507 said:
I personally think that it's better to wait, since I want to see how durable the device is. And for the most part, I will be buying my Nexus 4 when either Ballistic Cases/Otterbox/Trident release a case for this phone, idk something about that back glass gets me a little worried about how sturdy this phone is...
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Why not go with an official bumper case? That is the lightest thing that will protect fully against falls (unless you drop it on an uneven surface where the glass touches first.. unlikely)

barondebxl said:
OP that sounds really stupid. period.
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hhhhhhh.. u r a samsung and iphone guy.. so u should not say/write any letter here

SiemensLover said:
Google do not trust this LG nexus really and did offered only limited pieces to be sold, to see how does the Nexus 4 do in the every day use! a kind of real life test!, so they can (maybe/maybe not) prevent the failures in the next shipment of nexus 4. And that is why google did not set a pre-order option on the funny Store!
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Are you serious? You really think that there is enough time between the first batch arriving and being used and shipping the second batch of phones they're going to have enough information to make serious hardware changes? A little far-fetched methinks.
How about something positive like Google set a limit on the devices to ensure that each one was sent out in a timely manner and the orders could be processed swiftly before relisting the device that was hugely popular?
Sparta507 said:
I personally think that it's better to wait, since I want to see how durable the device is. And for the most part, I will be buying my Nexus 4 when either Ballistic Cases/Otterbox/Trident release a case for this phone, idk something about that back glass gets me a little worried about how sturdy this phone is...
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I don't think that the glass makes the phone not 'sturdy'. I would guess that the phone is well made, solid and also looks really nice because of the tough Gorilla Glass 2 backing. Obviously, this is purely speculative but I can imagine that with a bumper and - more importantly - a little care, this device will last a while and be great to have.

fatjivi said:
I don't know how you can say that...I had to cry myself to sleep
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u cry because a phone? A phone that u can/may buy?!

All my phones up until now have been on contract, and each upgrade has never coincided with a launch. Part of the appeal with the N4 (along with the price of course) was to get a phone at launch for the 1st time. I'm happy to put up with teething problems -as a long standing Android dabbler, that is part of the masochistic fun. It is just nice to be in at the very beginning for a change.

jimmygoska said:
Are you serious? You really think that there is enough time between the first batch arriving and being used and shipping the second batch of phones they're going to have enough information to make serious hardware changes? A little far-fetched methinks.
How about something positive like Google set a limit on the devices to ensure that each one was sent out in a timely manner and the orders could be processed swiftly before relisting the device that was hugely popular?
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I said they maybe/maybe not prevent the coming issues inthe next shippment!
It is silly... what about a pre-order option from the Master Google in the funny store??

Trying to make yourself feel better, but it's not working.

I love it when people never use periods, just exclamation points on every sentence! So exciting!

cool story, bro.
-Sent from my Nexus 4

O4X is dropping, now just €299 in Denmark

See price here here
seems we are preparing to get the LG nexus 4 replacement.

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price is dropping cos no one is buying them cos of locked bootloader etc

This is good, more people could buy it, and more popularity can only be good...I just hope some nasty custom kernel will be possibility in near future...

Oh my god! Im surely getting this fone!

Dop3KinG said:
price is dropping cos no one is buying them cos of locked bootloader etc
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In India the price dropped caused a large number of users to buy this device compared to Samsung galaxy S3 or HTC one x. In fact it is out of stock in some of the popular online stores.
People are buying it due to the hardware specs and I don't think all of them are bothered about the bootloader.
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mastiandroid5 said:
In India the price dropped caused a large number of users to buy this device compared to Samsung galaxy S3 or HTC one x. In fact it is out of stock in some of the popular online stores.
People are buying it due to the hardware specs and I don't think all of them are bothered about the bootloader.
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if it was not for the camera, the family member who got mine, is very happy with it, it does the job + a little more. but she hates the poor camera pictures. but it works

Same thing at negir electronic, the black one is a little cheaper then the white but I rather get the white one instead http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=lg+optimus+4x#.UM1XXO7gErY
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Dop3KinG said:
price is dropping cos no one is buying them cos of locked bootloader etc
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Don't think so many people really care about the bootloader.. How many of people that owns a smartphone is on XDA? EX..
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axepted said:
Don't think so many people really care about the bootloader.. How many of people that owns a smartphone is on XDA? EX..
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you can be correct, but forums talk, reviews and discussion on the model type, does not really make this one the most popular.
and the fact LG hardly advertise in Denmark about this model. and the combo of forum discussing XXXXX is not there, makes someone less interested that someone says XXXX is here and its great.
just look at ppl buying nexus4 its another LG OEM branded mobile sold in the google tradition, and suddenly people likes LG mobiles? i believe someone said the internals was still as it is in previous LG mobiles, so they didnt really improve, they just got better advetising.

Dexter_nlb said:
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and the fact LG hardly advertise in Denmark about this model.
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LG believes that the device should be sold based on the quality and specs and does not like to depend on advts., for sales.
As you said, nexus 4 has shown LG devices in good perspective and everyone I know is interested in LG optimus G device.
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I got mine for new for 250 Euro. It's probably like 3 for 4 months ago.
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mastiandroid5 said:
LG believes that the device should be sold based on the quality and specs and does not like to depend on advts., for sales.
As you said, nexus 4 has shown LG devices in good perspective and everyone I know is interested in LG optimus G device.
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Nexus4 has shown the same as iPhone shows a iFan, that the brand tells more about the product than its quality its made on. that you can take to the bank
LG's bigbrother Samsung is still just one step ahead of LG when it comes to mobile and television and promoting themself on their own label not using Google as you say to sell its name as being better or qualified to be worthy the credit its given.

Dexter_nlb said:
Nexus4 has shown the same as iPhone shows a iFan, that the brand tells more about the product than its quality its made on. that you can take to the bank
LG's bigbrother Samsung is still just one step ahead of LG when it comes to mobile and television and promoting themself on their own label not using Google as you say to sell its name as being better or qualified to be worthy the credit its given.
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On phones maybe.. but LG Tv's are alot better than samsung.. i allways see a difference when it comes to picture quality.. LG over samsung any day Phones i can agree on.

in my country, on every channels i watched only one advertise about the O4X just one, then they advertise all the channels with freaking crap samsung seriously man every time
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mikkis2k said:
On phones maybe.. but LG Tv's are alot better than samsung.. i allways see a difference when it comes to picture quality.. LG over samsung any day Phones i can agree on.
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sadly they do make 2011 models better, but its past tense , their 2012 series are not better and reviews says that their topmodel lm980 is worse than the lw980 from last year, so yes they do make better tv's but that was last year.
lets hope they get better at it in 2013 with the new series coming out. and hopefully the OLED displays shows up in alot more shops.

mikkis2k said:
On phones maybe.. but LG Tv's are alot better than samsung.. i allways see a difference when it comes to picture quality.. LG over samsung any day Phones i can agree on.
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My LG Smart TV is great!
When I went for it I saw a guy delivering back a samsung smart tv, some defects for what I understood, but the day before another one was doing the same in Mediamarkt....
I bought a F*cking expensive Samsung Fridge. One of those ultra silence, extra capacity comparing external size, A++, etc... The
problem is that its noisy like a truck... I call service (Poland... no comments) and they repair something but, no result. Call them again, this time they said might be something different... another repair, no result once more. If we try to contact Samsung by the internet its worst than LG, at least Samsung polska...
And I have to leave with a fridge that works lowder than my old fridge of 20 Years ago cause theres nothing I can do... I don't speak ****ing polish... Its like being in africa!!!
Well, one day I'll wake up with a very bad mood and I'll throw it out of the window! Than I'll buy other...
By the way, Samsung smoke extractor is not much better than the fridge
Sorry for the OT but, Samsung,... no thanks.

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sadly they do make 2011 models better, but its past tense , their 2012 series are not better and reviews says that their topmodel lm980 is worse than the lw980 from last year, so yes they do make better tv's but that was last year.
lets hope they get better at it in 2013 with the new series coming out. and hopefully the OLED displays shows up in alot more shops.
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thats wierd.. since my new lg 3d tv is like 2-3steps better than my friends brand new samsung tv he even said so himself.. I Don't care what reviews says.. there is allways one of them that is a "fanboy" somewhere inside them, that brings out some of the stupidest reviews ever. But i'm no fanboy.. i've had like every brand there is TV it's LG, phones its apple/htc/samsung(and some of the lg phones.. nexus 4, optimus g.. i think my phone lacks what i rly like about android), tablet imho ipad is the best choice, PC or mac? for me.. pc.. with that HUGE price diffrences.

Will Oneplus 3T be also pissed off in 6 months by Oneplus 4 !

As oneplus 3T is a controversial launch for all op3 owners and its dev community, this question came in my mind. We all know how oneplus is treating op2 after release of op3, I am just worried they are gonna do the same with Op3 by discontinuing it. And will the same happen with op3T also when again after few months they will come with another new flagship Op4...

As for now, they have proven to be mistrusted, so I'd say they'll discontinue just like they did before.

I don't think they'll be on a 6 month release schedule.
Finally, OnePlus told us this is not indicative of a new line-up and that users should not infer that there will be two separate SKUs (one being superior) in 2017 and beyond — they claim that the OnePlus 3T is a situational phenomenon . . .
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I expect they'll release the OP4 around this time next year or a bit earlier. This device mainly seems to be a challenge to the Pixel (and it serves to better position their releases for Christmas sales?)

Sell the 3T for $350 and get the 4, $100 every 6 months or $200 per year for a flagship product is one hell of a deal...

Hopefully there won't be an OP 4T, there will just be an OP 4 this time next year.

Best guess. There'll be a OP4 in six months and another OP device six months after that. This is what a smaller company does. This is what Chinese mobile phone companies do - they release new versions all the time and are continually releasing new devices with the latest hardware.

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Best guess. There'll be a OP4 in six months and another OP device six months after that. This is what a smaller company does. This is what Chinese mobile phone companies do - they release new versions all the time and are continually releasing new devices with the latest hardware.
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I think its great that they are constantly updating and keeping the devices current...dont have to Wait so long in between devices.
I dont get why everyone is complaining about new hardware dropping? Its some thing to get excited about not upset!
I wish sammy and google would folllow suit honestly...a couple notes per year would be amazing. (As long as they dont spontaneously combust lol)
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force70 said:
I dont get why everyone is complaining about new hardware dropping? Its some thing to get excited about not upset!
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I think they see it as loosing their bragging rights, since they no longer have "the best" that company makes. It's irrational and somewhat childish, technology does move forward and the phone they bought didn't get any worst because of this (in fact it's still one of the very best around).
To finish my rambling:
1) Buy what you need, not what consumerism and marketing departments tells you to.
2) Once you do buy something, take the most out of it while it still works. I believe that is why we are all here at XDA, is it not?

thats the cell game bro.....look at samsung..

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I think they see it as loosing their bragging rights, since they no longer have "the best" that company makes. It's irrational and somewhat childish, technology does move forward and the phone they bought didn't get any worst because of this (in fact it's still one of the very best around).
To finish my rambling:
1) Buy what you need, not what consumerism and marketing departments tells you to.
2) Once you do buy something, take the most out of it while it still works. I believe that is why we are all here at XDA, is it not?
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It's not just that, it's lying to the customers, standard phones have a year cycle. it also makes the development friendly phone less friendly as already many devs have said they wont support the 3T

crysen said:
As for now, they have proven to be mistrusted, so I'd say they'll discontinue just like they did before.
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This is silly. I still have an awesome phone, better software, greater development than virtually any phone, and have gotten great customer service from OnePlus. Every time I have had to deal with Customer Service/ Tech Support, they have been very helpful and answered all my questions, plus have been extremely efficient when handling various situations and when I had to RMA my device they emailedme almost daily to keep me abreast of what was happening with my device. They have already provided several updates and Nougat is in beta testing, but if you don't want to wait, there are plenty of third party Nougat roms already available. The reason they are available, they released all sources and posted stock roms. So I am not sure why you are so butt hurt and say they are proven to be mistrusted just because they released a new device?

Do you guys think it's better to wait for 1+4 or go with 1+3t?
I can resist... but i don't know if my Nexus5 can do it too.
I've read some of the rumors (2k, 4000mah), but i don't know if they can be trusted.
Sorry if i've made any mistakes, but i'm new :>

IMHO, wait if you can. If any of the rumoured specs are right, this should be a really good device! If you can't wait, check out the 3 on eBay. Now that the 3T is out, 3's are showing up for discounts. Seen them as cheap as $310.

Thanks.
I guess I'll wait...
The downside is that there is no specific date nor price around :/
You know, waiting and then it turns out that 1+4 costs 550/600€ would probably kill me...
Like Xiaomi did with Mi Note 2.
Thanks for the advice!

AnotherM1m said:
Thanks.
I guess I'll wait...
The downside is that there is no specific date nor price around :/
You know, waiting and then it turns out that 1+4 costs 550/600€ would probably kill me...
Like Xiaomi did with Mi Note 2.
Thanks for the advice!
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Don't wait.. If you really wanna buy a new phone, do it now. New devices will always come and manufactures themselves will always make them outdated in few months. So don't wait, buy Op3/Op3t whichever is available in your country and enjoy.
That's how it works.
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Yea, i get your point.
But i prefer waiting (if my N5 allows me to ) and get a phone with a 2k screen.
1+3t will be available in one week from today... I'm gonna start to count six months from that day asd.

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It's not just that, it's lying to the customers, standard phones have a year cycle. it also makes the development friendly phone less friendly as already many devs have said they wont support the 3T
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In what way they lied? Did they say that they won't release new phone before next year or what? Why they have to keep 1 year cycle? Because you want them to? What does it change for OP3 user? Their phone specs will get lower somehow? You are getting what you paid for but you expect to be the best for one whole year? Everyone will wait?
I am very happy that they improve, because why not? And it is actually not that they released new phone, they had to produce them more and it was probably just easier to put 821 and battery is just using different voltage.
A lot of butt-hurt here...

Rossyyy said:
It's not just that, it's lying to the customers, standard phones have a year cycle. it also makes the development friendly phone less friendly as already many devs have said they wont support the 3T
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I get what you are saying, but that's just how customer point of view, not necessary what explicitly stated by the manufacturer. But, even if what you said is true about standard phones then exactly what exactly is standard? I mean Samsung have tons of phone out each year, and you could also say both the Galaxy S and Note series are just half a year apart, yes they are not exactly the same series of phone, but in many PoV, they are close enough. As far as the manufacturer PoV is concern, OP is considered relatively small company, making two similar phones simultaneously would cost more for them, and thus it make economic sense. But seriously, why would it bother you or anyone? I mean, it is stupid to think that they can't get better android phone half a year from now. Seriously, every month, there is at least a new android phone and most customers would look at the phone that suit them best, or whatever that have the latest and greatest features.

You mention the Samsung phones and yes they are similar but it isn't the exact same model.
Also the note and S series are aimed at different people. I wouldn't want a mobile any bigger than 5.5 and before the op3 I wasn't even sure i wanted to more up to 5.5
If they told customers they were releasing a 3T more people would have waited .
Also I can tell support for the OP3 is going to slowly fade away and be in the same position as the OP2

AnotherM1m said:
Yea, i get your point.
But i prefer waiting (if my N5 allows me to ) and get a phone with a 2k screen.
1+3t will be available in one week from today... I'm gonna start to count six months from that day asd.
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2K screen, or you mean UHD screen? I have a note 4 right now, and even Notebook w/ UHD, but seriously even after a year and looking at the current situation, i think it's a bit overrated. There still isn't a lot of app or software that take full advantage of that high res. Yes, the screen look nice but only to a certain point. In most cases, it won't be distinguishable from 1080p screen. What suck about it is that your graphic gaming performance will suffer because it's now 4 times the pixels it have to render, and also battery life. Hence I'm leaving the Note 4 to the OP3T.