Hey all,
Just a couple a quick ones...
1) Generally how is Lollipop on this phone - worth the jump from KK?? My missus only uses the very basics of any phone she has but the geek in me is trying to keep her uptodate!
2)Will it fully wipe the phone when upgrading?? (Im presuming yes, but when i did a wipe on my M7 it kept the apps - What goes/stays on this phone with the upgrade??
Cheers for any and all help! :good:
wingnutta said:
Hey all,
Just a couple a quick ones...
1) Generally how is Lollipop on this phone - worth the jump from KK?? My missus only uses the very basics of any phone she has but the geek in me is trying to keep her uptodate!
2)Will it fully wipe the phone when upgrading?? (Im presuming yes, but when i did a wipe on my M7 it kept the apps - What goes/stays on this phone with the upgrade??
Cheers for any and all help! :good:
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My wife hates when I fiddle with her phone, so for me it isn't worth it. The only way I'll fiddle with it now is if she is having a problem. While I am at it will update it and do maintenance on it, remove apps she doesn't use generally clean it out. I find lollipop to be a much cleaner interface and easier for the average joe to use, so it might be worth it in that instance.
I'm unsure whether the OTA will wipe the system, I would assume so because you are flashing an entirely different architecture (Lollipop uses ART as opposed to Dalvik) but I can't be sure. The only times I have ever done it I have done a clean flash myself and not waited for the OTA
Just remember the wife trumps everything. If I do anything to my wife's phone I go into the bathroom and lock the door. I might say a little prayer that I won't brick it also. That said, my son-in-law s Motorola updated straight from Kk to 5.01 and he didn't lose his apps. His wasn't this model although I'd think it would be the same.
Tel864 said:
Just remember the wife trumps everything. If I do anything to my wife's phone I go into the bathroom and lock the door. I might say a little prayer that I won't brick it also.
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I know that feeling! Sweat trickling down the back of the neck as the phone boots after flashing her phone... the long wait as those coloured balls fly around the screen and the sigh of relief as the homescreen pops up...
Moto g 2nd gen dual sim upgraded from KK to 5.0.2 3 weeks ago all went well no apps or data lost. You only loose data and apps if you factory reset (which Motorola recommends). I didn't do that, only cleared cache also no data or apps lost.
My suggestion, don't do anything to her phone.
If she sees too many different things, she's gonna get angry. Non technical users just want the thing to work and that's all, and at the same time, they don't want to have to relearn anything more than they already know. So many differences in her phone with lollipop installed will get her upset.
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My fiance is getting the Bionic, it's expected early next week. What are the known problems with this phone so we know what to expect?
Oh, and this wasn't a phone of either of our choice, Verizon kinda forced it on her. She had her phone stolen at work and Verizon offered to give her this phone for a price, but give up her upgrade next yr and sign a 2 yr agreement. When we tried asking for another phone, we got a firm "we can't do that." I know, really bad deal... I may try calling on her behalf to get that straightened out tonight.
But in case we're stuck, I was just curious about the problems.
What phone did she have? What phone would you and her rather have had? Since you're showing a little hate, I'll show a little love........... Bionic is the best phone out there, you won't find anything better.
Most of the issues have been resolve with the updates love the phone have had it since launch very fast and no lags in the software 4g is great, only issue is a data drop maybe once a week when switching from 4g to 3g.
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I didn't mean to give the impression I was expecting this to be a terrible phone. Just as getting anything new, you want to know what to expect. I'm an avid Android user and know the specs. The phone seems to be a great phone, but it can be a bit harder to investigate any problems with it. I was hoping someone would say the bugs were worked out, so thank you for that. The hate comes from the way Verizon kind of screwed her out of an upgrade without any choice of phone. We didn't know what we would have rather had yet, but having known it would be giving up an upgrade, we would have liked to look into what is available and actually have a choice.
But the Bionic IS an upgrade from what she had before. She had the LG Revolution which was a terrible experience. Thanks for the feedback though. Like I said, I was just trying to get a better idea of what to expect. (Thanks buttons have been clicked)
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I didn't mean to give the impression I was expecting this to be a terrible phone. Just as getting anything new, you want to know what to expect. I'm an avid Android user and know the specs. The phone seems to be a great phone, but it can be a bit harder to investigate any problems with it. I was hoping someone would say the bugs were worked out, so thank you for that. The hate comes from the way Verizon kind of screwed her out of an upgrade without any choice of phone. We didn't know what we would have rather had yet, but having known it would be giving up an upgrade, we would have liked to look into what is available and actually have a choice.
But the Bionic IS an upgrade from what she had before. She had the LG Revolution which was a terrible experience. Thanks for the feedback though. Like I said, I was just trying to get a better idea of what to expect. (Thanks buttons have been clicked)
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I just got my bionic yesterday on a warranty swap (had an LG Revolution also... went through 3 of them before they gave me another option). All I had to pay for was a battery and battery door.
Rooting it is now fairly easy. ICS builds are out there, but I'm not satisfied with the quality try for daily use. One you root it and ROM it, first thing to do is wipe battery stats.
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I just got my bionic yesterday on a warranty swap (had an LG Revolution also... went through 3 of them before they gave me another option). All I had to pay for was a battery and battery door.
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Wow, lucky you. They'll do anything to get more money from ya (us) huh? They're reasoning is they're letting her upgrade over a year early - hence the reason for no choice.
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Rooting it is now fairly easy. ICS builds are out there, but I'm not satisfied with the quality try for daily use. One you root it and ROM it, first thing to do is wipe battery stats.
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I appreciate the rom tips, but she refuses to go that route - I tried. I've rooted and flashed countless roms on 3 phones i've owned, but she isn't comfortable letting that happen. so, her use will always be 100% stock. But since we're on the topic, any promise of an official ICS update? I'll look into this myself if no one cares to answer. I'm sure that's easy to find.
Motorola has promised ics but there is no set date for it.
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Some nice things
I just got mine a couple of weeks ago. While you did ask about known issues, I guess it's only fair to mentions some positives as well.
1. The 4g, at least in my area (around Baltimore), is pretty great.
2. Patching the mobile hotspot is fairly easy, (if you don't mind spending a couple of bucks on the right app) which is quite useful if you're grandfathered with unlimited data.
3. The lapdock can be quite useful - emphasis on "can" - as you can have a full blown linux OS running on it (takes some nerdiness to get it working nice, but I honestly think it's well worth it since I paid only about $70 for my lapdock).
4. Rooting the phone is extremely easy.
5. If you mess anything up, restoring it to its original state is fairly easy and mostly fool proof (as with all motorola android phones) using RSD Lite.
Got mine about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love the way it works. My wife upgraded as well to her first smartphone, but sadly she chose the Samsung Charge. When I showed her the pink theme for Eclipse 2.2 she was having 2nd thoughts on her choice. Over all a damn good device and lots of different options for it.
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Wow, lucky you. They'll do anything to get more money from ya (us) huh? They're reasoning is they're letting her upgrade over a year early - hence the reason for no choice.
I appreciate the rom tips, but she refuses to go that route - I tried. I've rooted and flashed countless roms on 3 phones i've owned, but she isn't comfortable letting that happen. so, her use will always be 100% stock. But since we're on the topic, any promise of an official ICS update? I'll look into this myself if no one cares to answer. I'm sure that's easy to find.
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The data drop issues I had were resolved with the leaked .904 update. Fairly simple to apply and the phone stays stock since its just an update, maybe you need to root. (I was rooted when I applied it and had to reroot after.)
Other then that I would occasionally get duplicate texts and it would get rather annoying getting the same text multiple times, one time it didnt stop so I had to reboot (note that this is same in stock as well as roms and messaging apps).
Since then I disabled the timestamp option in the text messaging and it seems to have resolved it. (2 days with no duplicates) I re-enabled it to see if it would start doing it again to see if the timestamps are the actual root cause of the problem.
Those were my only issues with Stock. Since then I have been running Eclipse and have been loving it.
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Got mine about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love the way it works. My wife upgraded as well to her first smartphone, but sadly she chose the Samsung Charge. When I showed her the pink theme for Eclipse 2.2 she was having 2nd thoughts on her choice. Over all a damn good device and lots of different options for it.
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DROID Charge?? that's a terrible choice.
I was hoping someone could give me a step by step on how to completely reset my phone back to the state it was in when I first pulled it out of the box. I just wanna completely start fresh.
My phone is running so damn slow and is all sorts of messed up cause my friend ****ed with it and tried to put one of the custom ROMs he made on it even tho I told him not to and he didn't remove the current ROM I had running first and it just made everything messed up. Which is why I don't want anyone messing with rooting or custom firmware on my phone except for me. I had my phone running the ROM I liked and had my phone running nice and smooth and fast. It ran perfectly. And when he did it he failed to make a nandroid backup beforehand and someone reformatted my sd-card so all the backups I had of my own are gone and now its all sorts of ****ed up.
I've never done a full reset except for on motorola phones and all you had to do with that is get the proper SBF file and run RSDlite. But I don't know what to do on this phone. So a detailed step by step or a link to a detailed guide would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for the help.
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The only way I know of to fully get that "out of box" look and feel is to flash a tot, then factory reset.
Try this Then do a factory reset or vice versa. it's best to do the factory wipe from cwm. essentially wiping data, cache, and dalvik.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337386
Factory reset
Flash v9 Firmware
then Wipe SD and Internal Storage
Out of box.
I know its been awhile since I posted this, but I unfortunately went to jail shortly after posting this and finally got acquitted of the charges and released from custody just 4 days ago, because the witness refused to testify and all he would tell the Prosecutor was that I didn't start the fight and was only defending myself.
Which was the truth. I was sucker punched twice in the back of the head and after that I completely just saw red as they say, and I don't really remember much of what happened between the getting sucker punched and then being in hand-cuffs with blood on me that wasn't my own, but I apparently broke the dudes jaw and left eye socket. And they, they being the police, tried to say that even tho he swung first, I used excessive force in response and therefore it no longer was self defense lol which is bull****, and it took about 4 months in jail for me to prove that......Well technically I didn't prove anything, the prosecutor just didn't have a case since their so called eye witness ended up backing my story up and wouldn't testify, so they had no choice but to drop it.
And since no one I knew could afford 4,500$ in bail and even tho I had the money in savings, more then enough, they wont let you pay your own bail, unless you have the cash in your property but I only had my debit card and they wouldn't let me release it to anyone so they could pull the money out and since they don't have ATMs in jail lol I got ****ing stuck in there
Anyways, now that I explained my interesring story as to why I am having to resurrect a thread from like 4months ago, my question is, where can I get the current V9 firmware that the most recent poster mentioned. So I can do what I wanted to do 4 months ago lol
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reading the laments over poor Lollipop battery life, i kept on KitKat until 23.4.A.1.200 -- which seems to be the one that Sony nailed.
just updated yesterday. system went through a series of updates, i think five or six. didn't know that for OTA, you actually had to do them incrementally, one after another. system would get done with one, immediately there would be notification of another, and so on and so on until 23.4.A.1.200.
after the first one, the phone got hot. and by the 5th of 6th reboot/update, it was REALLY HOT. never ever felt it this hot. i was really starting worry that i would eventually become a victim of the dreaded cracked glass syndrome.
i've swapped roms on tablets and Samsung phones, without noticing any heat dissipation. and for things like downloading and installing apps with Lollipop, my Z3c gets warmer -- something i didn't notice with KK. surely this isn't normal?
edit: just doing a several minutes of WhatsApp chats ... why is this thing getting warm now?
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reading the laments over poor Lollipop battery life, i kept on KitKat until 23.4.A.1.200 -- which seems to be the one that Sony nailed.
just updated yesterday. system went through a series of updates, i think five or six. didn't know that for OTA, you actually had to do them incrementally, one after another. system would get done with one, immediately there would be notification of another, and so on and so on until 23.4.A.1.200.
after the first one, the phone got hot. and by the 5th of 6th reboot/update, it was REALLY HOT. never ever felt it this hot. i was really starting worry that i would eventually become a victim of the dreaded cracked glass syndrome.
i've swapped roms on tablets and Samsung phones, without noticing any heat dissipation. and for things like downloading and installing apps with Lollipop, my Z3c gets warmer -- something i didn't notice with KK. surely this isn't normal?
edit: just doing a several minutes of WhatsApp chats ... why is this thing getting warm now?
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Well... Ive been using it since it was out (used @moly82 debloat script and some other modifications) and the phone definitly does not get hot. Maybe you should do a fresh install by flashing the FTF with flashtool (you can exclude data wipe... if that wont work try to do a full clean install)? Here is the newer 23.4.A.232. Try that one. Or use Moly82's rom V7.
At least with a clean install you can be sure if it is not related to your phone just being a little messed up (it shouldnt be but well... anything can happen with software).
Hope this might help you
thx. will look into this. i'm based in Canada though ... will CE and Singapore work okay given my locale?
was kind of hoping to keep it stock (my Z3c has been STOCK for 10 months! by far a record for me ... kind of hard to believe, actually), but i was *just* installing an app, and the phone rebooted itself. grrrr.
heat issues, and a reboot: never once had an issue with the phone until now ... hmmm.
AM Radio said:
reading the laments over poor Lollipop battery life, i kept on KitKat until 23.4.A.1.200 -- which seems to be the one that Sony nailed.
just updated yesterday. system went through a series of updates, i think five or six. didn't know that for OTA, you actually had to do them incrementally, one after another. system would get done with one, immediately there would be notification of another, and so on and so on until 23.4.A.1.200.
after the first one, the phone got hot. and by the 5th of 6th reboot/update, it was REALLY HOT. never ever felt it this hot. i was really starting worry that i would eventually become a victim of the dreaded cracked glass syndrome.
i've swapped roms on tablets and Samsung phones, without noticing any heat dissipation. and for things like downloading and installing apps with Lollipop, my Z3c gets warmer -- something i didn't notice with KK. surely this isn't normal?
edit: just doing a several minutes of WhatsApp chats ... why is this thing getting warm now?
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Give it some time. Turn off "Scanning always available" in wifi settings. Turn off location/gps. Let it cool down properly. Then proceed to do your work.
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If all else fails, perform a factory reset. Also if you reboot a modern phone that many times and update it would obviously get hot
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I havent rooted a device before but the idea of getting rid of the bloatware that came on the phone and extending battery life as well as increasing performance is appealing to me.
Is your device rooted? and do you feel its worth it?
I also dont really know where to start with rooting it, I had a friend reccommend Kingoroot, but I am not sure which root is 'best' per se.
I also believe I need to unlock my bootloader...Not sure if it is unlocked already, it is a refurbished verizon unloicked phone.
Pardon my ignorance I am just getting into this stuff.
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I havent rooted a device before but the idea of getting rid of the bloatware that came on the phone and extending battery life as well as increasing performance is appealing to me.
Is your device rooted? and do you feel its worth it?
I also dont really know where to start with rooting it, I had a friend reccommend Kingoroot, but I am not sure which root is 'best' per se.
I also believe I need to unlock my bootloader...Not sure if it is unlocked already, it is a refurbished verizon unloicked phone.
Pardon my ignorance I am just getting into this stuff.
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Yes. Hopefully you didn't do any updating. http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684
Its on 5.1 currently and trying to get me to update I cleared my cache to get rid.of the update file
Wow that's a long and slightly intimidating process.
Hopefully the performance battery life and lack of bloat is worth it
I owned two XT1225 (the international version of the Droid Turbo) and won a FREE, NEW AT&T LG G4 last summer, when it was first released. (I'm on AT&T.) Stayed in the box. The LG G4 is an excellent phone, but just doesn't hit all the cumulative features of the Quark. I even bought a Qi wireless back plate for the LG G4, to enable that feature -- but still never used the phone.
Sold it on eBay a few months ago and bought a 3rd XT1225 to keep as backup for me and my wife. So, yeah, it's worth it.
I love the phone. It's awesome, I'm just getting cold feet on the root. It's the first time I've tried it.
So the root makes a big difference?
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I love the phone. It's awesome, I'm just getting cold feet on the root. It's the first time I've tried it.
So the root makes a big difference?
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Unlocking the phone lets you do the following things:
Remove bloat
Use the Xposed framework to customize your phone in almost any way you can imagine
Install custom roms, including roms that are a more recent version of Android than what Motorola slowly rolls out
Use security programs like Cerberus to give your phone remote commands if it is lost/stolen
Use battery optimization programs like Amplify and Greenify
Tweak your kernel to favor power over battery life, or vice versa
Other stuff that I can't think of right now
Another reason is to install a custom recovery (TWRP) after boot loader is unlocked. TWRP allows you to make a back up of everything on your phone.
It's worth it just to keep your phone relevant. Odds are we'll see android n with the unlocked boot loader I doubt we'll see it without
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There are youtube videos showing the Sunshine unlock, root, and TWRP process. It's really easy and takes only a few minutes.
The first phone I rooted was the Samsung Intercept back before all of the "One Click Root" apps came about. I had to mate it with my computer and run a long string of ADB commands. That's when I learned about Paths and Environmental Variables. Then installing ClockworkMod Recovery... You had to pull the battery out at a precise moment to get the recovery to stick before the first boot or else the phone reverted to stock recovery. But all of that hinged on if you got the Samsung drivers to work right. If that's wasn't intimidating, then I don't know what is.
Hi all,
I am losing my mind trying to figure out how to make the lag and stuttering stop. I have exchanged my hand set, bought new batteries, tried several roms (stock lollipop, stock MM, DU, TekX, CM, DynamicPop, CleanRom, Emotion, etc), tried several kernels, reformatted sd card, etc and the only one that does not stutter and lag is Dirty Unicorns 5.1.1 but I wanted to move up to MM. When I say lag, I mean for everything; typing, scrolling thru settings menus, even the boot animation stutters sometimes. It locks up for a sec or so at most each time so it is not unusable but is annoying the hell out of me. Is anybody else dealing with this? Does anybody have any idea how to fix this? I am at a total loss and would love some feedback. Thanks in advance.
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Is anybody else dealing with this?.
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No. My phone is fine. Was Dirty Unicorn 5.1.1 on a specific kernel when it was working (smoothly)?
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No. My phone is fine. Was Dirty Unicorn 5.1.1 on a specific kernel when it was working (smoothly)?
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For DU 5.1.1, I just left it with the default kernel that DU loads in.
What happens if you take out the sd card?
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What happens if you take out the sd card?
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Still has lag with or without sd card. Could a sim card possibly effect performance?
I just completely wiped and reflashed stock MM build EPE3. It even lags during the initial set up where you agree to terms, put your name in, etc... It is just a choppy frustrating experience all around.
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Could a sim card possibly effect performance?.
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I highly doubt it. I'm convinced that you got 2 defective devices in a row.
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I highly doubt it. I'm convinced that you got 2 defective devices in a row.
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I suppose it is possible... Yeah Ill give an exchange another shot at this point.
You should not have any issues with lag on a stock ROM anyway
I had a warranty replacement phone that would lag and stutter no matter what. I was able to get it replaced after getting too technical for support and threatening to leave TMO. My replacement was back to good... although it does have some lag at times until I restart it... but it's heavily modded and has lots of xposed modules that could cause leaks. The lag I have is nothing like what I experienced before.. I could not even play a local video without it stuttering every 15 seconds in video. The same thing with UI... it was like there was an interrupt or gpu issue. Even the stock everything would have problems.
No lag here. I did a factory reset while updating to MM and the phone has been performing really good since then. I'm running stock.
So I went to TMobile and they agreed to exchange it under warranty. Apparently the phone came with a lifetime warranty; nice. Big but, I have to wait 29 days for the replacement because it is heavily backordered. They offered me a S7 edge but I have to have a removable battery. Hoping that the whole Note 7 disaster will be the end of Samsung releasing solid handsets.
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Apparently the phone came with a lifetime warranty.
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That sounds so far-fetched, however, I'm happy to know that this is going to work out in your favor.
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That sounds so far-fetched, however, I'm happy to know that this is going to work out in your favor.
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That's what they said and I was not going to argue. Fingers crossed #3 works out!
If you have JUMP, it's under warranty as long as you're paying EIP
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If you have JUMP, it's under warranty as long as you're paying EIP
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https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674
I wish we had this in Jamaica as well. Our local carriers only exchange phones (under warranty) if you can prove that it was a factory defect.
My Stock TMO note4 had similar issues, Freezing, Lagging, Rebooting, Battery drain(ordered a new battery), I tried clearing cache and did a Factory reset, which did not help much.
But then it suddenly Bricked up, not responding to anything (hard bricked) . Called/walked into Tmo to see if they would be able to do anything (I'm still paying EIP) but they said its out of warranty and told me to get a new phone.
I had to unbrick it with the help of http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/help/galaxy-note-4-n910t-fixed-hard-bricked-t3466547
Now I'm Just seeing if a new battery fixes my issues or I'll have to look into another solution; :fingers-crossed:
Sorry I have relatively not knowledge about phones and this is the first time I've looked into them.
Personally, a lot of lag was removed with taking out Knox and lookout. I installed the dev base that overdrive posted with most of the stuff taken out already and that was perfect. Just had to load the stock kernel for pogo. Most of the lag is gone.