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Thought id share. Hope its not old news.
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Thanks for sharing.. this is good news!
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Today is a good day, gingerbread and another 30 days of the stock wifi tether. Can't ask for more..
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Love it! I just wish we had LTE in my area :-(
I have a feeling they're going to screw some people over with this, myself included. Before I switched to the TB I paid for hotspot on my DX. Now that I'm on the TB it no longer shows up in my features, and I bet they will switch to tiered data before the 15th. Forcing me to change my plan to re-add tethering and go to tiered data. Pretty much defeating the whole purpose of why I bit the bullet and threw down $700 to get this phone and be on unlimited 4G before they did away with it.
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I have a feeling they're going to screw some people over with this, myself included. Before I switched to the TB I paid for hotspot on my DX. Now that I'm on the TB it no longer shows up in my features, and I bet they will switch to tiered data before the 15th. Forcing me to change my plan to re-add tethering and go to tiered data. Pretty much defeating the whole purpose of why I bit the bullet and threw down $700 to get this phone and be on unlimited 4G before they did away with it.
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It's a free promotion and it says it when you use the hotspot. They can't charge you or sign you up for something during a free promotion. When I spoke to Verizon they said it will be some kind of notification (they don't know what yet) sent out that the promotion is over. I tried to opt out before the end of the promotion and both reps couldn't find a way because they didn't have anything to opt me out except a note on my account.
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I have a feeling they're going to screw some people over with this, myself included. Before I switched to the TB I paid for hotspot on my DX. Now that I'm on the TB it no longer shows up in my features, and I bet they will switch to tiered data before the 15th. Forcing me to change my plan to re-add tethering and go to tiered data. Pretty much defeating the whole purpose of why I bit the bullet and threw down $700 to get this phone and be on unlimited 4G before they did away with it.
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Ummm instead of falling for their plan and adding tethering and getting tiered data.... Root the phone and wait for someone to crack the app so it doesn't "talk" to Verizon
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Ummm instead of falling for their plan and adding tethering and getting tiered data.... Root the phone and wait for someone to crack the app so it doesn't "talk" to Verizon
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it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
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It's a free promotion and it says it when you use the hotspot. They can't charge you or sign you up for something during a free promotion. When I spoke to Verizon they said it will be some kind of notification (they don't know what yet) sent out that the promotion is over. I tried to opt out before the end of the promotion and both reps couldn't find a way because they didn't have anything to opt me out except a note on my account.
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So if I was already signed up for tethering on my account before switching to the tb, it should automatically go back on it once the promotion is over without having to change my plan?
Whatever you had on your plan should carry over, Tethering and all.
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it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
So if I was already signed up for tethering on my account before switching to the tb, it should automatically go back on it once the promotion is over without having to change my plan?
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If we were to add the tethering on to your account you will c the charge....it will not show the soc for tethering until after the promotion is over next month. So you are correct by saying the tethering did not roll over because as far as your billing is concerned it did not roll over because it's a different soc than ur 3g hotspots....if u choose to keep or "add" tethering it will not effect your unlimited data so no worries
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If we were to add the tethering on to your account you will c the charge....it will not show the soc for tethering until after the promotion is over next month. So you are correct by saying the tethering did not roll over because as far as your billing is concerned it did not roll over because it's a different soc than ur 3g hotspots....if u choose to keep or "add" tethering it will not effect your unlimited data so no worries
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ah ok. Couldn't help but be paranoid about it, after what AT&T did when they went tiered last year, although they didn't offer tethering before then for the iPhone, but if you wanted tethering when they added it you had to give up unlimited data.
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it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
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I always felt it was more people like you as too why people like us have to find a way to get our phones tethering the way we want it and deserve it: FREE.
The majority allow Big Red and AT&T to tell us this is how it will be pay it or don't have it. And people complain about it but still shell out the money to these companies. If more people stood together we'd get things change. Lest that's how it used to be. Now most are too busy bending over to the companies to stand up to them.
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mandog202 said:
it's the people doing this that are the reason this tiered data crap is happening in the first place. I pay for things I use, especially with all the attention illegal tethering is getting now.
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WRONG do you remember when Verizon rolled out 3g data service back in the day and it was tiered at first as well? It was long before there were apps for tethering and before a majority of people even knew what tethering was. It's their way of making more money.
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WRONG do you remember when Verizon rolled out 3g data service back in the day and it was tiered at first as well? It was long before there were apps for tethering and before a majority of people even knew what tethering was. It's their way of making more money.
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Eh you are stretching it there...yeah they had "tiers" but there was always an unlimited data option and lower options, like there are now. With the new tiered plans there won't be an unlimited data anymore...it will be how ATT is currently charging for their data.
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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You may find you answer in the t-mobile thread
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Great disregard my post if this is known
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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they include 500mb tethering in their plan. more than that, you need to pay. 500mb isnt much.
I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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Only for the first 500, as stated above.
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Only for the first 500, as stated above.
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Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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Yes you get 500mb of tethering but there are questions as to T-mobile can truly track it since the Nexus 4 does not switch APNs when tethering like other phones do
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playya said:
Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.
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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.
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Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Aw man: again misleading..the fine print:
"Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: (Tethering/Wi-Fi Sharing): Qualifying plan required. Plan data allotment applies.; Unlimited 4G data plan includes 500 MB of tethering. No roaming. Use of connected devices subject to T-Mobile Terms and Conditions."
This statement can be read several ways, naturally...TMO really needs to step up and simplify this silly language.
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Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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playya said:
Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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Gotcha...correct info is more important than right/wrong. I just recall several months back a thread where users were bemoaning paying for Unlimited Nationwide 4G and not getting ANY tethering...even when they wished to pay extra for it...it simply wasn't offered (assumed too abusive to the network). Even I was shocked they changed and allowed 500MB on that UN4G plan. Cheers!
I have the $30 pre paid 5 gig plan and you can add tethering for $15 a month. I have used it though with apps just during power outages. I never had an issue but I don't come close to using the 5 gigs anyways.
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I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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No prob glad it helped
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No prob glad it helped
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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?
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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?
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They randomly check user agent strings. I started getting the warning texts a few months ago (was on value unlimited which doesn't have a tethering allotment) and then they blocked me from accessing Internet Explorer from my laptop via mobile hotspot (but could still use Chrome or my iPad). One phone called they switched me to Simple Choice and kept my contract term so I didn't have to pay a migration fee.
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I just switched to unlimited 4g a few weeks ago and I've occasionally gotten rerouted to a page that says I don't have tethering or I've reached my data limit. Disabling tethering and reloading the page works to bypass the page I'm using native android tether, and that's the only problem I've seen so far.
Does anyone have any information on when Foxfi will be working again for phones with KitKat? My app broke when i updated to KitKat.
Have you tried emailing the app maker?
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Have you tried emailing the app maker?
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i have, and they have yet to respond. it doesn't work. hoping someone comes up with a workaround as i'm trying to see how long i can go without rooting this phone.
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i have, and they have yet to respond. it doesn't work. hoping someone comes up with a workaround as i'm trying to see how long i can go without rooting this phone.
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My post on another forum below. I've been emailing the creator/current holder of FoxFi and they're incompetent.
FoxFi does NOT work on Verizon. It asks for credential passwords (of which there is no answer for) or to enable native tethering which just results in a subscription check. I've brought this to the Foxfi developer's attention, and it's not been fun. We've exchanged multiple emails back and forth and it seems I'm dealing with someone who doesn't understand English or is just bad at reading. They keep answering everything but what I ask. First they said I can update to Kit Kat and FoxFi wifi tethering would work - false. I replied telling them this and also explained that FoxFi is asking for a credential password after having me create a lock screen with password (also new). Their reply - I can remove the lock screen by entering the wrong password 5-10 times. Again, not even close or relevant to what I asked. I'm just about done speaking with them and wouldn't consider buying FoxFi if support can't even be bothered to respond coherently.
Yazzinit said:
My post on another forum below. I've been emailing the creator/current holder of FoxFi and they're incompetent.
FoxFi does NOT work on Verizon. It asks for credential passwords (of which there is no answer for) or to enable native tethering which just results in a subscription check. I've brought this to the Foxfi developer's attention, and it's not been fun. We've exchanged multiple emails back and forth and it seems I'm dealing with someone who doesn't understand English or is just bad at reading. They keep answering everything but what I ask. First they said I can update to Kit Kat and FoxFi wifi tethering would work - false. I replied telling them this and also explained that FoxFi is asking for a credential password after having me create a lock screen with password (also new). Their reply - I can remove the lock screen by entering the wrong password 5-10 times. Again, not even close or relevant to what I asked. I'm just about done speaking with them and wouldn't consider buying FoxFi if support can't even be bothered to respond coherently.
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thei VPN certificate is supposed to bypass the check. i had this working on 4.2.2, before the KitKat update came. I suspect the additional security layers added with 4.4 negated the effectiveness of their solution. It is possible they haven't even started testing with the latest version.
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thei VPN certificate is supposed to bypass the check. i had this working on 4.2.2, before the KitKat update came. I suspect the additional security layers added with 4.4 negated the effectiveness of their solution. It is possible they haven't even started testing with the latest version.
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I have it working on another VZW phone(HTC One) running a 4.4 Sense ROM so it may be directly related to something with the Moto X 4.4 update. Have you tried the PDA+ app. I know they are essentially the same company now but previously it worked for me when the actual Foxfi app didnt. I should have be Moto X sometime early next week(hopefully:fingers-crossed so I will give it a go myself and report back.
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I have it working on another VZW phone(HTC One) running a 4.4 Sense ROM so it may be directly related to something with the Moto X 4.4 update. Have you tried the PDA+ app. I know they are essentially the same company now but previously it worked for me when the actual Foxfi app didnt. I should have be Moto X sometime early next week(hopefully:fingers-crossed so I will give it a go myself and report back.
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if you go to pdanet/foxfi's site, it specifically says that wifi tethering is through/from the actual foxfi app, so i have no confidence that pdanet will work any better than foxfi on its own.
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if you go to pdanet/foxfi's site, it specifically says that wifi tethering is through/from the actual foxfi app, so i have no confidence that pdanet will work any better than foxfi on its own.
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It was merely a suggestion based on my past experience with both apps but ok
PDANet only works on usb tethering for VZW 4.4. The FoxFi part doesn't work, as I posted above. The developer (also as I mentioned above) is pretty incompetent so I'm not holding my breath on a fix and wouldn't recommend buying it after the responses I've gotten. Seriously, they constantly fail to read my questions and I'm not the only one. Another person on another forum (not sure if I can mention it here?) has said the same thing.
I accidentally upgraded to KitKat after having my ultra for only 3 days. Verizon wouldn't help me roll back to jellybean or let me exchange my phone (without paying a restock fee) I agreed to pay the fee and switch for another ultra still running jellybean but the vzw rep said it would be a waste of money because vzw is going to push the update and I eventually won't have an option. So I'm stuck paying my $39 hotspot fee when I was getting the use of my hotspot free on my DNA. I power two TV streaming media boxes, two tablets and my laptop. My average monthly GB usage is around 600gb. I have a 4 and 5 yr old who stream Netflix cartoons to their rooms all day. And never a glitch. So for $30 I shouldn't complain...however it really bothers me that Verizon made me upgrade and now an app I paid for is useless.
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PDANet only works on usb tethering for VZW 4.4. The FoxFi part doesn't work, as I posted above. The developer (also as I mentioned above) is pretty incompetent so I'm not holding my breath on a fix and wouldn't recommend buying it after the responses I've gotten. Seriously, they constantly fail to read my questions and I'm not the only one. Another person on another forum (not sure if I can mention it here?) has said the same thing.
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PDANet also works on bluetooth for Verizon 4.4. Not as fast as WiFi and smaller range, but if you don't want to root or tether with a USB cord it is your only option.
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candi.ultra.girl said:
I accidentally upgraded to KitKat after having my ultra for only 3 days. Verizon wouldn't help me roll back to jellybean or let me exchange my phone (without paying a restock fee) I agreed to pay the fee and switch for another ultra still running jellybean but the vzw rep said it would be a waste of money because vzw is going to push the update and I eventually won't have an option. So I'm stuck paying my $39 hotspot fee when I was getting the use of my hotspot free on my DNA
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Ok, so you want Verizon to help you violate their TOS?
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I power two TV streaming media boxes, two tablets and my laptop. My average monthly GB usage is around 600gb. I have a 4 and 5 yr old who stream Netflix cartoons to their rooms all day. And never a glitch. So for $30 I shouldn't complain...however it really bothers me that Verizon made me upgrade and now an app I paid for is useless.
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LOL! No, you shouldn't complain AT ALL.
You are pissed because you get to use 600GB of wireless data per month for the price of your $29.99/mo unlimited data plan but now a $5 app is useless to you? It is the data hogs like you that are going to result in Verizon putting an end to the unlimited data plans for all of us.
And you have a 4 and 5 yo who stream Netflix cartoons in their rooms all day *smh* Where did you go to parenting school?!?!? Oh, wait, that is right anyone can have a child no matter how crappy of a parent they are. Get your kids off of their boob tube habit, lady!
This has got to be one of the most unbelievable posts I have ever read. I can't believe you are for real.
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Yet you took the time to respond? Is this a parenting forum? Are u even a parent? /useless defending myself but I've got time if you do.
Thanks for your nasty attitude and offering no help at all. Maybe you can tell me how I am violating the TOS? Vzw is aware of my data usage. The FCC rules they can't cap my data right? I get what I pay for. If u were a parent you would know that just because the TV runs doesn't mean they are glued to it. They attend a private christian academy and here in Rural Ga it costs more than my mortgage, car notes and utilities, so I try to get more for less anyway I can especially when I pay for the phone and service. We don't subscribe to cable or satellite and I clip coupons too, they also eat ice cream for breakfast would you like to bash me for that? If you dont have anything productive to add then why be so rude? I have been with Verizon for 15+ years since it was cellular one. Don't even get me started on how this huge conglomerate is screwing over its customers...I have a right to use the phone I paid full price for and the unlimited data that came with the original contract I signed with them in any way I see fit. Data hog or not. Your rude opinion is not needed. Just any technical advice. I purchased pda.net in 2007 for around $19 and the same serial # activation still work from junefabrics. Its not the apps fault it is VZW trying to screw customers.
candi.ultra.girl said:
Yet you took the time to respond? Is this a parenting forum? Are u even a parent? /useless defending myself but I've got time if you do.
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Of course you do; your kids are staring at Netflix watching cartoons all day so what else do you have to do, lol!
candi.ultra.girl said:
Thanks for your nasty attitude and offering no help at all. Maybe you can tell me how I am violating the TOS?
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By tethering without paying the extra fee.
Now, having said that, as I post all over the internet all of the time, Verizon can't stop you from using an app to do that because of the terms of their block C licenses. But that doesn't mean it doesn't violate their TOS; it does. They just can't enforce their TOS by stopping you from using that app.
But guess what they can do once your contract expires? Drop you as a customer for violating their TOS.
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The FCC rules they can't cap my data right?
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NO!!!!!!! That is NOT what the FCC rules say. The FCC rules say that Verizon can't stop you from using an app. But it doesn't mean that isn't a violation of their TOS. And it doesn't mean that they can't pressure Google or the phone manufacturers into closing exploits that allow apps to allow you to violate their TOS. What they clearly can't do is pressure Google to remove those apps from the PlayStore. That they can't do.
I violate Verizon's TOS. However, I don't ask them to help me to do it nor do I get angry at Verizon when they won't help me to do it. That is the point that is ridiculous to me. You want them to help you violate their TOS and are angry that they won't, lol!
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If u were a parent you would know that just because the TV runs doesn't mean they are glued to it.
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I was remarking on what you said. You said they stream Netflix cartoons all day.
candi.ultra.girl said:
They attend a private christian academy and here in Rural Ga it costs more than my mortgage, car notes and utilities, so I try to get more for less anyway I can especially when I pay for the phone and service. We don't subscribe to cable or satellite and I clip coupons too, they also eat ice cream for breakfast would you like to bash me for that?
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Clipping coupons doesn't deprive me of anything. Being a data hog by using 600GB of data a month risks depriving all of us who have unlimited data ultimately.
Verizon does not have to continue to allow us to have unlimited data. People like you risk ruining it for all of us. Shame on you!
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I have a right to use the phone I paid full price for and the unlimited data that came with the original contract I signed with them in any way I see fit.
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OK, you clearly didn't go to law school, but hey, you stick your kids in front of a TV all day so I wasn't thinking you were very educated.
First - that contract expired long ago. Verizon can at any time after a contract expires refuse to renew it at those terms. That is clearly in the contract. So no, you do not have any "right" to the terms of the original contract once it expires.
Second - it is Verizon's position that data is a feature and not part of the contract anyhow and that they can change your data plan at their whim. Whether or not they have a legal leg to stand on with that argument is a complex legal argument that depends not only on federal law but the choice of law provisions in Verizon's TOS and one that you would never be able to grasp no matter how clearly I explained it to you.
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These are the FCC rules that are being discussed here in case anyone is trying to follow this:
47 CFR 27.16
(b) Use of devices and applications. Licensees offering service on spectrum subject to this section shall not deny, limit, or restrict the ability of their customers to use the devices and applications of their choice on the licensee's C Block network, except:
(1) Insofar as such use would not be compliant with published technical standards reasonably necessary for the management or protection of the licensee's network, or
(2) As required to comply with statute or applicable government regulation.
600GB of data runs the risk of giving Verizon the argument that they can cut you off under 47 CFR 27.16(b)(1). Now having said that, there is this:
(c) Technical standards. For purposes of paragraph (b)(1) of this section:
(1) Standards shall include technical requirements reasonably necessary for third parties to access a licensee's network via devices or applications without causing objectionable interference to other spectrum users or jeopardizing network security. The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network.
So they can't do it if the only reason is the potential for excessive bandwidth demand, but it opens the door for them to argue that it jeopardizes other users on the network depending on the network traffic. Now so far Verizon hasn't tried to make these arguments because they have been successful in getting people off of their unlimited data plans. But we will see how this all plays out over time.
However, someone who thinks they should get all of their internet, TV and video through their $29.99 Verizon data plan to the tune of 600GB/mo so that they can send their kids to an overpriced private school is over the top and jeopardizes unlimited data for all of us.
1- The kids are at the aforementioned school.
2- I am educated. I have a BS in Justice Administration from Georgia Southern University. And I know it doesn't mean much but I also have an Associates degree from a community college in Early Childhood education. Why must you make things so personal? Do you have no life other than belittling people on a Tech advice forum? You obviously have trouble comprehending what I stated- just because the TV is on and streaming doesn't mean the kids are stuck in front of it, like I said obviously you are not a parent. Yet you continue to harp on that.
3- Back to the only thing that really pertains to you hijacking this thread- I havent researched as much as you but as to the FCC ruling in which I was referring:
"Verizon defended its tethering fee explaining that customers with unlimited data plans were able to share their data with an unlimited population of wireless devices and such activity was bound to have negative operational effects on its network.[10] Verizon implemented the tethering fee in hopes of supplementing the cost of the additional data the customer would be sharing among multiple devices.[11] This in itself makes sense to most consumers, however, the issue lied in the fact that Verizon was also charging the $20 tethering fee to customers whose data plans were limited, hence, these customers were being charged extra for using only what they had already paid to use![12] Furthermore, Verizon was also limiting access to tethering apps for its customers by requesting Google to make tethering apps invisible from its Android application market on Verizon’s C Block customers’ phones.[13]
The FCC began investigating the matter in 2011 and after preliminary inquiry, Verizon decided to settle without admitting any fault, agreeing to pay $1.25 million to the Department of Treasury in exchange for the termination of the investigation.[14] The FCC touted the settlement as a message that “compliance with FCC regulations is not optional." That came from rctlj dot org (can't post links) for verification I fan message it to you
I know that is for tethering...but if I opt to buy an app that means I don't have to "tether" but can connect wirelessly then I think the same would apply.
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That came from rctlj dot org (can't post links) for verification I fan message it to you.
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Here is the actual FCC consent decree that is binding on Verizon:
FCC Consent Decree
Doesn't say you can tether without paying a fee and doesn't say that you can use as much data as you want when you have an UDP. It says Verizon can't pressure Google to remove tethering apps from the PlayStore. Verizon voluntarily then started offering the Share Everything plans, which allow free tethering. Note that Verizon still does not allow free tethering on not only unlimited data plans, but any of the capped data plans on the older, grandfathered plans. It is only the new Share Everything and now the More Everything plans that have free tethering.
Also, nothing in any contract you signed with Verizon says they have to offer you unlimited data after the contract expires and you go month-to-month. They are doing that for public relations reasons and because they have been able to get people voluntarily off of unlimited data plans by refusing to give us subsidized phones.
But 600GB a month usage is why they want people off of unlimited data plans. There is not infinite bandwidth. Maybe none of your neighbors are on Verizon, but a lot of mine are and if we all used that kind of data through our tower, our data speeds wouldn't even be able to support video streaming.
And I linked you to 47 CFR 271.6, which is the federal regulation that governs Verizon's Block C licenses. It also doesn't say you can tether without paying a fee nor does it say you can use as much data as you want when you have an unlimited data plan. Rather, it says Verizon can stop you from using apps that objectionaly interfere with other network users' use of the spectrum under the provisions of 47 CFR 27.16(b)(1), which in turn is further spelled out in 47 CFR 27.16(c)(1).
We will see how this all plays out. For now enough people have been moved off of unlimited data plans that Verizon is still letting us keep them but who knows how long that will last if the data hogs overburden the network.
If you feel Verizon is violating the Consent Decree or the terms of their Block C licenses by not allowing you to tether for free, complain to the FCC and see what they say.
Also keep in mind that Apple DOES block tethering for free in iOS and refuses to allow apps that can circumvent these restrictions in the App Store. Apple is allowed to do that since they are not the licensee of any Block C spectrum. Google could do it, too for the same reason. It is just that Verizon can't pressure Google or Apple to do it.
And remember, you are using 600GB a month and are not even willing to pay $60 for it ($29.99 UDP + $30 hotspot fee), which would only be 10 cents per GB! Instead, you want to pay 5 cents per GB. Wow, that takes the cake on being cheap!
Instead of being angry at Verizon you should be thanking them for only charging you 10 cents a GB for data!!!!
candi.ultra.girl said:
however it really bothers me that Verizon made me upgrade and now an app I paid for is useless.
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I usually don't like to add fuel to a fire but... If you still have unlimited data, be thankful that you didn't get forced onto a tiered data plan. at 600gb per month, that would get pricey. At one time the $29.99 Hot Spot feature had a 5gig limit. I'm not sure did they finally remove the cap?
On a side note, if you purchased a developer edition Moto X, Droid Maxx, or other DE Moto phone, you'd still be able to root and tether, even with Kit Kat. Maybe not via FoxFi, but you could do it.
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If you still have unlimited data, be thankful that you didn't get forced onto a tiered data plan. at 600gb per month, that would get pricey.
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Yes, on tiered data she would be paying $5980 per month just for her data use since the 10GB tiered plan is $80/mo and overages are $10/GB!!!!!!
Even paying the $30 hot spot fee, she is only paying 10 cents a GB!! She is angry at Verizon that she can no longer pay 5 cents a GB!!!
Good grief! Wireless data was not meant to be used to stream media throughout an entire house like that, filled obviously with people who watch WAY TOO MUCH TV! And it is the data hogs like her who are going to ruin it for all of us reasonable UDP users. She is avoiding paying for dish or cable TV and using her kids school as an excuse.
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Good grief! Wireless data was not meant to be used to stream media throughout an entire house like that, filled obviously with people who watch WAY TOO MUCH TV! And it is the data hogs like her who are going to ruin it for all of us reasonable UDP users. She is avoiding paying for dish or cable TV and using her kids school as an excuse.
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I'm not going to comment on the "way too much TV" part... I'm not there..
I can say using the 6ABC app to watch the news during power outages the first few days of Feb I used about 16gig in 2 days. And I didn't watch constantly, only a few news casts. So I could see data adding up for streaming movies and other shows.
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I can say using the 6ABC app to watch the news during power outages the first few days of Feb I used about 16gig in 2 days. And I didn't watch constantly, only a few news casts. So I could see data adding up for streaming movies and other shows.
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yes it can - the wireless phone networks were not meant to support replacing your cable provider so you can watch TV throughout your house using your phone's data plan.
And to be indignent at Verizon for doubling the cost of data from 5 cents to a whooping 10 cents a GB when other network users pay $10/GB (which is 100 times more than what she is paying even with the hot spot fee) instead of thankful they let her keep her UDP, well that takes the cake!
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...the wireless phone networks were not meant to support replacing your cable provider so you can watch TV throughout your house using your phone's data plan.
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Yup, and that is why cell data has ALWAYS cost more than "wired" data like cable, fios, DSL, etc.
I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
Hope this helps.
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That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
Hope this helps.
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Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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No, you will be fine.
Like I've said, do a search and you will see that people here are using hundreds of gigs, some even 1tb+. Truly unlimited is truly unlimited.
I do 300+gb a month and never experienced a slow down or anything of that nature.. Blast for it..
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Some of these people who use it as a dedicated internet shouldn't advertise it.
this is not how T-mobile setup their plans.
$80 unlimited is phone only data. The plan included 5GB tethering over t-mobile hotspot app.
I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Agreed. We already went from $70 unlimited to now $80 unlimited.
??? Self-limited or Communty-limited, Unlimited Data ???
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?
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Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?
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"Consciously using and abusing... Followed by... Why don't they get an ISP... Followed by... You must not work???"
Im REALLY sorry NOW... That I said ANYTHING lol... Why didnt I think of those points to make?!?!?
The point of he T-Mobile network isn't about coverage it's about data that's what they advertise is the "data strong " network they have set up their network to handle the amount of data that is being used unlike the other carriers that have capped data
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Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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First of all jack ass I was throwing an arbitrary number out there. I have no idea how much data a MMO pulls. Secondly what's the difference between using a cell phone for my Internet and using Comcast besides I can get similar speed for a much better price using T-Mobile. I am only home for maybe two hours after work and that's enough time to eat mess around on the computer for a bit and crash so **** off with your generalizations. It'd make zero sense for me to spend an extra $100/mo on Comcast just to use maybe 20hrs/wk. If you want to pay my bill then I'll call them tomorrow. If not piss off.
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not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.
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not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.
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Well said. The man in the business said it himself and I know a hand full of people in the business and they all have said the same.
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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You're absolutely right. It can go both ways, but at the end of the day truly unlimited is truly unlimited. No matter what the nay sayers may think, their opinion can't over rule the fact that truly unlimited is what it is. Lol...
TM, pushed the whole truly unlimited campaign like mad angry birds head on first. Now that customers are utilizing a service that they signed up for, doesn't give TM any right to try and take that away. Truly Unlimited Data is what customers are paying for.
So for them to even complain now is called: hypocrisy.
It also seems that the ones complaining are perhaps jealous or can't afford the $80 plan or maybe jealous of those who have a grandfathered unlimited plan? Who knows. ..
The fact remains, no matter how you tip the scale, documentation will beat conversation any day.
Truly Unlimited is Truly Unlimited. Pretty black and white to me.
And for goodness sake, what's the difference of streaming 1080p Netflix on your phone vs your 1080p TV? ROFL....
bipoler said:
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If someone uses 10000gb in a month or 10gb a month the infrastructure cost doesn't change.
I use on average 15-20 GB a month. T-Mobile is flat out the best carrier with the best prices for what they offer. If I'm paying for unlimited data, regardless of whether I use 20 or I use 200 it shouldn't make any difference. T-Mobile makes it a point to advertise that truly unlimited means just that: truly unlimited. They expect people to switch to their network for that very reason. I don't see the person using 300gb a month as an abuser; he/she is taking advantage of a service that is being paid for. They aren't doing it in an unethical way or cheating the system.
Am I the only one getting a Pixel 4 xl from Verizon? They have a 450 trade in offer for upgrades. I bought a used Galaxy S5 for 50 bucks and will be trading it in for the $450. I honestly used to love rooting my phones but I haven't bothered the past year and haven't missed it. So that doesn't really matter to me anymore.
New Rising said:
Am I the only one getting a Pixel 4 xl from Verizon? They have a 450 trade in offer for upgrades. I bought a used Galaxy S5 for 50 bucks and will be trading it in for the $450. I honestly used to love rooting my phones but I haven't bothered the past year and haven't missed it. So that doesn't really matter to me anymore.
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I did the exact same thing. My Pixel 4 XL arrives tomorrow!
If you don't care about rooting your phone then Verizon is the way to go.
GohanBurner said:
If you don't care about rooting your phone then Verizon is the way to go.
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Sometimes people find an exploit and can open up rooting/unlocked bootloaders on Verizon, sometimes they can't. But ultimately, since Pixel phones come without any bloat, I find rooting to be mostly unnecessary. If it happens, then great! If it doesn't, I feel no loss. And in the meantime, I'm saving about $400 ($450 in trade-in, minus shelling out $60 for the phone to trade in).
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Sometimes people find an exploit and can open up rooting/unlocked bootloaders on Verizon, sometimes they can't. But ultimately, since Pixel phones come without any bloat, I find rooting to be mostly unnecessary. If it happens, then great! If it doesn't, I feel no loss. And in the meantime, I'm saving about $400 ($450 in trade-in, minus shelling out $60 for the phone to trade in).
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I only need root for system optimizations, allowing tethering (since Verizon thinks they can bar you from using a feature of your phone) and Viper4Android. Other than that I wouldn't need to root. I long for the day when I can just buy a phone and not have to worry about it.
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I only need root for system optimizations, allowing tethering (since Verizon thinks they can bar you from using a feature of your phone) and Viper4Android. Other than that I wouldn't need to root. I long for the day when I can just buy a phone and not have to worry about it.
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I'm a Verizon customer with a Pixel 2 XL and locked bootloader, and can use my phone as a hotspot. I use the feature pretty regularly to get my tablet online. Are they disabling that for some folks?
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I'm a Verizon customer with a Pixel 2 XL and locked bootloader, and can use my phone as a hotspot. I use the feature pretty regularly to get my tablet online. Are they disabling that for some folks?
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Not sure how you are doing that. There is a provisioning thing that pops up if you don't pay the $30 to use it and you're on Verizon. You might be paying for it and not know it. I'd check.
The other great reason for obtaining root is using VPN and VPN tethering. If you use both of those apps, you can bypass ALL carrier caps on hotspot tethering. They also can't throttle video usage because you are behind a VPN.
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The other great reason for obtaining root is using VPN and VPN tethering. If you use both of those apps, you can bypass ALL carrier caps on hotspot tethering. They also can't throttle video usage because you are behind a VPN.
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Yes, that as well. I don't have to do that right now though because I am still grandfathered into unlimited (no throttle) data with Verizon. I still use a VPN though sometimes.
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Not sure how you are doing that. There is a provisioning thing that pops up if you don't pay the $30 to use it and you're on Verizon. You might be paying for it and not know it. I'd check.
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Most Verizon plans include mobile hotspot at no additional cost. I'm on the fUDP, which includes 15 gigs of hotspot (see attached screenshot). And all current unlimited plans larger than the Start Unlimited include it as well (see second screenshot). Lastly, it doesn't limit me to slow speeds, either (see the third screenshot from my tablet, tethered to my phone). No extra charge! ?
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Most Verizon plans include mobile hotspot at no additional cost. I'm on the fUDP, which includes 15 gigs of hotspot (see attached screenshot). And all current unlimited plans larger than the Start Unlimited include it as well (see second screenshot). Lastly, it doesn't limit me to slow speeds, either (see the third screenshot from my tablet, tethered to my phone). No extra charge!
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Yeah, I guess it has been awhile. Still on a plan from like 2009 lol.
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The other great reason for obtaining root is using VPN and VPN tethering. If you use both of those apps, you can bypass ALL carrier caps on hotspot tethering. They also can't throttle video usage because you are behind a VPN.
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I don't use a VPN, but it's available in the settings without the need to root. See the attached screenshot.
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Yeah, I guess it has been awhile. Still on a plan from like 2009 lol.
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Ha ha, yeah, you might want to check and ensure you are still on the most cost-effective plan for your needs! The fUDP is best for me, since I've got 6 people. We split the $100 monthly nut 6 ways ($16.67 each), and each person has a $20/month access fee. Even after taxes, it's under $40 per month for a legit unlimited plan that includes hotspot and 720p video. There's a guide on reddit r/Verizon on how to enroll in the fUDP, if it's an effective plan for you. If you've got fewer lines, then some of the current plans are cheaper.
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Ha ha, yeah, you might want to check and ensure you are still on the most cost-effective plan for your needs! The fUDP is best for me, since I've got 6 people. We split the $100 monthly nut 6 ways ($16.67 each), and each person has a $20/month access fee. Even after taxes, it's under $40 per month for a legit unlimited plan that includes hotspot and 720p video. There's a guide on reddit r/Verizon on how to enroll in the fUDP, if it's an effective plan for you. If you've got fewer lines, then some of the current plans are cheaper.
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I'm holding onto this plan strictly because of 5G. If I have this plan when 5G finally rolls out then I will cut my home internet back to the most basic package (for the always-on security stuff in my home). Then I'll use my phone as my primary internet again. Had been using 300-400GB/mo from 2009-2018.5.
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I don't use a VPN, but it's available in the settings without the need to root. See the attached screenshot.
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It's not the VPN that you need root for, it's VPN tethering so you don't have to worry about the ISP (Verizon, AT&T, T-mobile, and Sprint) throttling your hotspot usage @ 15 to 20 GB's per month. You can use it forever without hitting the fake usage limit that the ISPs dictate.
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I'm holding onto this plan strictly because of 5G. If I have this plan when 5G finally rolls out then I will cut my home internet back to the most basic package (for the always-on security stuff in my home). Then I'll use my phone as my primary internet again. Had been using 300-400GB/mo from 2009-2018.5.
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Amen, I am waiting for Verizon's fixed 5G service to hit where I live. Then I can kick my wired ISP to the curve, **** COX (suckers), COMCAST, SPECTRUM, AT&T, and the othered wired internet providers. They are monopolies with the state governments acting as their pimps.
Verizon's 5G fixed service is only $50 per month.
Yeah i'm on the fence here. My LgV30 has 1 month left on device payment plan. With the trade in I can get the P4 XL 128 for $23 a month which is less than I was paying for my LG, but then free is less than $23/month lol.
New Rising said:
Am I the only one getting a Pixel 4 xl from Verizon? They have a 450 trade in offer for upgrades. I bought a used Galaxy S5 for 50 bucks and will be trading it in for the $450. I honestly used to love rooting my phones but I haven't bothered the past year and haven't missed it. So that doesn't really matter to me anymore.
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Mine wasn't working the other day, but is now. Try a couple power off cycles (not just restart)?
I purchased as 4 XL thru my job on VZW. I haven't felt a need to root my phone for at least the last few years (last phone I rooted was an HTC device I cant remember. LOL
btonetbone said:
Sometimes people find an exploit and can open up rooting/unlocked bootloaders on Verizon, sometimes they can't. But ultimately, since Pixel phones come without any bloat, I find rooting to be mostly unnecessary. If it happens, then great! If it doesn't, I feel no loss. And in the meantime, I'm saving about $400 ($450 in trade-in, minus shelling out $60 for the phone to trade in).
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Don't hold your breath for an exploit. They didn't find one for the 2 or the 3. They found one for the OG Pixel, but only under a certain firmware version.