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Android 4.4 on rooted VZW device

Got the OTA for 4.4, how do I apply that to custom recovery? Or do I have to wait till it comes in a downloadable zip and flash it in custom recovery?

tluley51 said:
Got the OTA for 4.4, how do I apply that to custom recovery? Or do I have to wait till it comes in a downloadable zip and flash it in custom recovery?
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Are you on a VZW Developer Edition (unlocked)?

defsquad said:
Are you on a VZW Developer Edition (unlocked)?
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No sir. Safestrap on regular version, 16gb

tluley51 said:
No sir. Safestrap on regular version, 16gb
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there is no way to maintain root and take the 4.4 currently unless you have a dev phone or unlockable bootloader

bummer, was thinking that if on rooted VZW Developer Edition you could OTA update then reboot into recovery and install Su again (with TWRP for instance).

defsquad said:
bummer, was thinking that if on rooted VZW Developer Edition you could OTA update then reboot into recovery and install Su again (with TWRP for instance).
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if you have a dev edition then you can get root because you have an unlocked BL.

jayboyyyy said:
if you have a dev edition then you can get root because you have an unlocked BL.
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sorry for the ignorance, but do you happen to have the steps after unlocking the bootloader to install root? I have the dev edition and just upgraded to 4.4 and am interested in gaining root.

schmoe0013 said:
sorry for the ignorance, but do you happen to have the steps after unlocking the bootloader to install root? I have the dev edition and just upgraded to 4.4 and am interested in gaining root.
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same way you did on the last update you did. you may have to wait a sec if the su and cwm hasn't been udpated to 4.4 but i think it has so you should be able to get root the exact same way you got rot when you took the 4.2.2 OTA

jayboyyyy said:
same way you did on the last update you did. you may have to wait a sec if the su and cwm hasn't been udpated to 4.4 but i think it has so you should be able to get root the exact same way you got rot when you took the 4.2.2 OTA
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I have yet to perform any such activity.
With some googling, I am estimating the process to be something along the lines of:
unlock bootloader via motorola site
install cwm?
push su app to system
victory?
I have development background but have not kept up recently with process of these things.

jayboyyyy said:
there is no way to maintain root and take the 4.4 currently unless you have a dev phone or unlockable bootloader
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Okay, so to take the update, I have to unroot and flash stock recovery?

tluley51 said:
Okay, so to take the update, I have to unroot and flash stock recovery?
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be careful how you do it
I tried that, along with some other things, and apparently it didnt work

alex94kumar said:
be careful how you do it
I tried that, along with some other things, and apparently it didnt work
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I cheated...I used a toolkit and it did it all for me. Downloading the OTA now and hopefully it gets me all set

tluley51 said:
I cheated...I used a toolkit and it did it all for me. Downloading the OTA now and hopefully it gets me all set
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Which toolkit?

schmoe0013 said:
sorry for the ignorance, but do you happen to have the steps after unlocking the bootloader to install root? I have the dev edition and just upgraded to 4.4 and am interested in gaining root.
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To unlock the boot loader I went to the Motorola website and did it.
Sent from my XT1060 using xda app-developers app

schmoe0013 said:
I have yet to perform any such activity.
With some googling, I am estimating the process to be something along the lines of:
unlock bootloader via motorola site
install cwm?
push su app to system
victory?
I have development background but have not kept up recently with process of these things.
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all sounds good to me. sorry if someone answered you already and this is a repost. but that sounds accurate.

VZW Moto X DE Phone Update?

After installing TWRP and SuperSU (not sure if they are relevant, but I'd figure I'd include all the steps), I notice that my phone has a firmware update. Now, first of all, I thought dev phones don't get updates? Also, if this is a legitimate update, how can I pull the ota to post?
Also, I'm already on 4.4, so could this be 4.4.2?

There's a bunch of ota threads my friend. Read up. Some are stickies...like the complete Moto x guide thread.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

SwiftLeeO said:
After installing TWRP and SuperSU (not sure if they are relevant, but I'd figure I'd include all the steps), I notice that my phone has a firmware update. Now, first of all, I thought dev phones don't get updates? Also, if this is a legitimate update, how can I pull the ota to post?
Also, I'm already on 4.4, so could this be 4.4.2?
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If you downloaded the update it's in the cache folder.

Ryno77 said:
If you downloaded the update it's in the cache folder.
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Well, it just says install. I don't want to install it because I'm rooted with custom recovery and it might brick my phone. I checked the cache folder and there are 3 folders: backup, lost+found, and recovery

SwiftLeeO said:
After installing TWRP and SuperSU (not sure if they are relevant, but I'd figure I'd include all the steps), I notice that my phone has a firmware update. Now, first of all, I thought dev phones don't get updates? Also, if this is a legitimate update, how can I pull the ota to post?
Also, I'm already on 4.4, so could this be 4.4.2?
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Developer Editions get OTAs the same as any other Moto X. But that is odd as there have been no reports of the soak test even being started for the Verizon Moto X. Sounds like the OTA got pushed to you by mistake.
Anyhow, what is clear is that you can't take an OTA when you are rooted but you already know that.
What root explorer/browser are you using?

Cozume said:
Developer Editions get OTAs the same as any other Moto X. But that is odd as there have been no reports of the soak test even being started for the Verizon Moto X. Sounds like the OTA got pushed to you by mistake.
Anyhow, what is clear is that you can't take an OTA when you are rooted.
What root explorer/browser are you using?
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Root Browser by JRummy. I normally use ES, but i stopped after it wouldnt let me edit permissions.

Its just a glitch. In your cache it'd have its own folder named after the current os. Wipe cache and dalvic and you should be free of the glitch.

SwiftLeeO said:
Root Browser by JRummy. I normally use ES, but i stopped after it wouldnt let me edit permissions.
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that is what I am using and I see the exact same subfolders you are seeing in the cache. I take it you don't see the OTA file in any of the subfolders?

Cozume said:
that is what I am using and I see the exact same subfolders you are seeing in the cache. I take it you don't see the OTA file in any of the subfolders?
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No ota file. Might be a glitch as shane suggested.
False alarm. Went into Software Update to check and I'm up-to-date .-.

Cozume said:
Developer Editions get OTAs the same as any other Moto X. But that is odd as there have been no reports of the soak test even being started for the Verizon Moto X. Sounds like the OTA got pushed to you by mistake.
Anyhow, what is clear is that you can't take an OTA when you are rooted but you already know that.
What root explorer/browser are you using?
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If you are rooted and want to take the OTA, you can flash the stock recovery and the system.img file with mfastboot.exe, and the OTA should install. i.e. if you are on 4.2.2, rooted with a custom recovery, then you should download the factory 4.2.2 image FOR YOUR DEVICE. Then extract it and use mfastboot to flash recovery.img and system. img. When you reboot, the phone will download the 4.4 OTA and it should install no problem. After it installs, just use mfastboot to flash TWRP and let TWRP root your device and you should be good as new with 4.4.
The stock recovery and an unaltered system folder are the key ingredients to a successful upgrade.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
You can absolutely take an OTA while rooted. The only thing that would prevent you from taking an OTA is if you have altered any system files (such as deleting system apps), or if you have messed and around and flashed a bootloader that doesn't match.
If you flash the factory recovery, you can take the OTA no problem even if rooted. You will of course lose root, but that's easily solved with an unlocked bootloader.
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Ok, this is the kind of stuff that makes it so hard on noobs. On the thread about the OTA it says you have to get rid of root:
[NOOBS][WARNING][OTA]how to accept an ota
I know if the Moto X were a Nexus you could take the OTA while rooted but would lose root. But with the Moto X, it seems like you can't do that.

Cozume said:
Ok, this is the kind of stuff that makes it so hard on noobs. On the thread about the OTA it says you have to get rid of root:
[NOOBS][WARNING][OTA]how to accept an ota
I know if the Moto X were a Nexus you could take the OTA while rooted but would lose root. But with the Moto X, it seems like you can't do that.
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Ok, so I just downgraded to 4.2.2, rooted, and tried to take the OTA and it failed. So, I stand corrected. You are right, you can not take the OTA if you are rooted. Well, you CAN take it, but it will fail to install. It sees the su app as an alteration to the system folder (which it is).
Easiest fix is to to use mfastboot to flash the stock recovery and flash the system.img file so it is back to stock. Reboot then let the OTA install and you should be good to go.
Sorry for the misinformation, and I will correct my earlier post so as not to confuse the "noobs." LOL.
Thank you, Cozume

OK ,its simple. 1 moto is no nexus device
2 where does the su binary flash to?xbin folder, is that not part of the system? The only reason why some folks on T-Mobile have root afterwards is, the 4.4.2 is a partial update for them as they received 4.4 , it only replaces some files,If you have a carrier such as Rogers that's going from 4.2.2 directly to 4.4.2 then all the system folders are replaced and you need to remove root along with the binary file, there are other carriers as well that are going from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 directly
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

flashallthetime said:
OK ,its simple. 1 moto is no nexus device
2 where does the su binary flash to?xbin folder, is that not part of the system? The only reason why some folks on T-Mobile have root afterwards is, the 4.4.2 is a partial update for them as they received 4.4 , it only replaces some files,If you have a carrier such as Rogers that's going from 4.2.2 directly to 4.4.2 then all the system folders are replaced and you need to remove root along with the binary file, there are other carriers as well that are going from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 directly
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Yup, sorry for the misinformation. I was mistaken and corrected it. Likely while you were typing up your response.

[Q] Moto X DE Is 4.4.2 worth it?

Moto X DE rooted. VZW native tether hack. Replaced the "warning unlocked bootloader" message. The rest is stock. Is the 4.4.2 update worth it? I don't see anything that appears to be much different from 4.4

I have a Dev X and pretty much in the same boat as you.... Unlocked, Rooted, changed logo.bin, but I'm using Wifi Tether for root app rather than the entitlement apk hack.
I took the OTA when it hit my phone. I can't say that I notice anything really different after the upgrade. No negative impacts at least.
It was easy to take because I was basically stock... just flash stock recovery back on, and take the OTA. Since it sounds like you did the entitlement apk replacement, you'd need to undo that.
I didn't lose root, and write protection stayed disabled (due to unlocked bootloader). So I just had to reflash my custom logo.bin, and I haven't put custom recovery back on, I don't need to right now. Only issue would be, if I do find a bug that wasn't there in 4.4, I can't downgrade now due to the bootloader update.

KidJoe said:
I have a Dev X and pretty much in the same boat as you.... Unlocked, Rooted, changed logo.bin, but I'm using Wifi Tether for root app rather than the entitlement apk hack.
I took the OTA when it hit my phone. I can't say that I notice anything really different after the upgrade. No negative impacts at least.
It was easy to take because I was basically stock... just flash stock recovery back on, and take the OTA. Since it sounds like you did the entitlement apk replacement, you'd need to undo that.
I didn't lose root, and write protection stayed disabled (due to unlocked bootloader). So I just had to reflash my custom logo.bin, and I haven't put custom recovery back on, I don't need to right now. Only issue would be, if I do find a bug that wasn't there in 4.4, I can downgrade now due to the bootloader update.
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You don't have root unless you put the custom recovery back on there.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

KidJoe said:
Only issue would be, if I do find a bug that wasn't there in 4.4, I can downgrade now due to the bootloader update.
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Not to nag, but probably important to correct... you CAN'T downgrade now.
Updated last night. I did it cause I wanted to be on latest and greatest, plus I think the camera does take better low-light pictures now.

Schaweet said:
You don't have root unless you put the custom recovery back on there.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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No, you'll keep root after taking the update. You do not need to reinstall TWRP to have root. Root is root, a recovery is a recovery. If you lost root, you'd need to install a recovery that allows you to install root, but you don't lose root from taking the OTA.

cw18306 said:
Moto X DE rooted. VZW native tether hack. Replaced the "warning unlocked bootloader" message. The rest is stock. Is the 4.4.2 update worth it? I don't see anything that appears to be much different from 4.4
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Not much different, you can always update everything but motoboot and gpt so you can still downgrade if you don't like...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/xt1060-164-55-2-unofficial-fxz-unlocked-t2659682
FWIW, The only things I notice are that USB OTG works in 4.4.2 and static in bluetooth headphones when using wifi is gone.

Schaweet said:
You don't have root unless you put the custom recovery back on there.
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I beg to differ. Root Explore, Greenify, Wifi Tether for Root... all work, as do going into system and renaming files, and downloading/installing the hosts file in AdAway from BigTinCan.com (which survive power off/on, so helps to tell me write protection is still disabled).
On an unlocked bootloader, once you have rooted, you can use whatever recovery you like.
Now, for LOCKED bootloader on the X which are rooted via RockMyMoto or SlapMyMoto without using MotoWPNoMo, you might need to keep that "recovery trick" in place so you can boot with write protect disabled. In that case you would loose the ability to boot with write protect disabled (which makes root useless) when you put stock recovery back on, but that is different and doesn't "unroot" you.
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Not to nag, but probably important to correct... you CAN'T downgrade now.
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You are right. that is a Typo that I need to fix!!!

cw18306 said:
Moto X DE rooted. VZW native tether hack. Replaced the "warning unlocked bootloader" message. The rest is stock. Is the 4.4.2 update worth it? I don't see anything that appears to be much different from 4.4
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It took me about an hour to do the update because I am a novice and had to do a bunch of stuff first but I did it and my phone is back to its current state...except now I am using the xposed wifi tether instead of the hack (And the xposed one is better). So it was worth it just to have the latest and get rid of that wifi mod that i never liked to begin with. Apparently the upate makes battery life better but my battery life was already awesome considering I came from Gnex. So I guess the question is why not update? If you know what you are doing it shouldnt take 5-10 minutes.

from what people are saying it seems 4.4.2 makes a huge difference for battery life, i don't have it yet on my xt1058 so i can't say for sure...

Yeah I really only root for the tether hack and tibackup. Both of which I've used less and less since I got this phone. I've never had any issues with the phone and battery life is awesome so I'll probably just wait for some more feedback on the update before I go through the hassle of doing it.

How do you get rid of the unlocked bootloader message? Just flashing logo.bin?

jawest12 said:
How do you get right of the unlocked bootloader message? Just flashing logo.bin?
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Yes replacing logo.bin. the logo.bin's I made for 4.4 work on 4.4.2 too.
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If you are rooted and locked on 4.4 using SlapMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo, can you downgrade to 4.2.2 and use PwnMyMoto then RockMyMoto then SlapMyMoto 0.5c to get the "recovery trick" back? Or is the ability to do that gone once you have used MotoWPNoMo?
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I am not sure since I have a Dev Edition with an unlocked bootloader, so I never used them... only read about them.

KidJoe said:
Yes replacing logo.bin. the logo.bin's I made for 4.4 work on 4.4.2 too.
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I am not sure since I have a Dev Edition with an unlocked bootloader, so I never used them... only read about them.
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Thank you for the response. Where can I download your logo.bin to flash?

tcrews said:
No, you'll keep root after taking the update. You do not need to reinstall TWRP to have root. Root is root, a recovery is a recovery. If you lost root, you'd need to install a recovery that allows you to install root, but you don't lose root from taking the OTA.
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For a n00b,,,,,English please?!

jawest12 said:
Thank you for the response. Where can I download your logo.bin to flash?
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See the "edit" section of Post #150 in this thread -> Moto X Boot Logos The post also has info how they were made and a link to a zip that contains a little more than 25 LOGO.BIN files, and matching BMP's so you can see what they look like first (or use to flash clogo if you have never unlocked your bootloader). they do include the 0-3% battery indication too.
I'm using Logo-prettydev2.png.bin included in the zip file.

PennyKnight said:
For a n00b,,,,,English please?!
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Moto X Developer Edition only....as this thread title states a DE model.
The OTA doesn't remove ROOT. You need the stock recovery to install the OTA so you have to flash the stock recovery.img back to the phone to install the OTA. Once the OTA is done.....you do NOT need to install TWRP or any other recovery to have root. You never lost root.
All of this is assuming you had previously installed TWRP to root a Moto X Developer Edition (DE) and want the OTA to 4.4.2.

tcrews said:
Moto X Developer Edition only....as this thread title states a DE model.
The OTA doesn't remove ROOT. You need the stock recovery to install the OTA so you have to flash the stock recovery.img back to the phone to install the OTA. Once the OTA is done.....you do NOT need to install TWRP or any other recovery to have root. You never lost root.
All of this is assuming you had previously installed TWRP to root a Moto X Developer Edition (DE) and want the OTA to 4.4.2.
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Also for noobs, how do I flash the stock recovery?

Also, does flashing stock recovery erase any data? (Like messages/pictures/etc..? If not, what actions actually erase this data... I feel like I never know)
Sent from my XT1060 using xda app-developers app

zackiv31 said:
Also, does flashing stock recovery erase any data? (Like messages/pictures/etc..? If not, what actions actually erase this data... I feel like I never know)
Sent from my XT1060 using xda app-developers app
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No. Flashing Recovery does NOT erase data. Using RSDLite to flash an entire SBF/XML file (without editing it) will erase data.. or giving the following command via PC with your phone in fastboot mode will erase data... mfastboot erase data

KidJoe said:
I have a Dev X and pretty much in the same boat as you.... Unlocked, Rooted, changed logo.bin, but I'm using Wifi Tether for root app rather than the entitlement apk hack.
It was easy to take because I was basically stock... just flash stock recovery back on, and take the OTA. Since it sounds like you did the entitlement apk replacement, you'd need to undo that.
How do I undo the entitlement apk. I tried to reverse it but messed it up.
Not good at that stuff.
Thanks
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Moto x official 4.4.4

Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks

Josue96 said:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
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The xt1055 doesn't have 4.4.4 yet. You can install stock 4.4.2 - just find the thread in general titled 'return to 100% stock'. Everything you need is there.

samwathegreat said:
The xt1055 doesn't have 4.4.4 yet. You can install stock 4.4.2 - just find the thread in general titled 'return to 100% stock'. Everything you need is there.
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Do you think the 4.4.4 update is going to be released soon?
also, if i return to 100% stock, will i be able to install the new update normally ? i mean without downloading it to the pc, etc
Thank you very much!!

Josue96 said:
Do you think the 4.4.4 update is going to be released soon?
also, if i return to 100% stock, will i be able to install the new update normally ? i mean without downloading it to the pc, etc
Thank you very much!!
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It will probably be released soon but I have no way of knowing.
Yes, if you flash to stock 4.4.2, you can take the ota normally with no PC. That is assuming you don't flash custom recovery or modify /system. If you do, you cannot take the ota normally. You must flash stock recovery back first and undo any significant changes to /system. That means no Xposed, etc.
If you want further details, search XDA for how to take an ota update.

samwathegreat said:
It will probably be released soon but I have no way of knowing.
Yes, if you flash to stock 4.4.2, you can take the ota normally with no PC. That is assuming you don't flash custom recovery or modify /system. If you do, you cannot take the ota normally. You must flash stock recovery back first and undo any significant changes to /system. That means no Xposed, etc.
If you want further details, search XDA for how to take an ota update.
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i think i did... i unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone, moved some files to the phone too, i dont really know lol

Josue96 said:
i think i did... i unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone, moved some files to the phone too, i dont really know lol
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I said that's assuming you 'don't' (not didn't) do those things -- you will receive the OTA as normal AFTER following the instructions in the return to stock thread to return to 100% stock.
Once you "return to stock" you will be 100% stock - any past changes won't matter.
IF **AFTER** you follow the return to stock guide to return to full stock 4.4.2, you flash TWRP and/or modify files in /system, you can't take the OTA until you un-do all of those changes.
Understand? Nothing you did or have done previously matters. All that matters is what you do AFTER you return to stock...

Josue96 said:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
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If you want Stock images Found here for your dive
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Choose your device and download insatll using RSD lite it will go 100% stock then if any updates 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 download automatically shows in your mobile .

can i update without losing root?

topic. thanks!

No. Not by accepting an OTA update. You'll have to update and re root.

what about getting rid of the update notification? is it possible to get rid of it?

foreverzero89 said:
topic. thanks!
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Yes you can. Install ota rootkeeper from playstore.
Sent from my LG-H815

I don't even get the update when I check since it has been modified in an "unauthorized way"

You can update via odin. Not through an OTA. Root has still not been written for 5.1.1, so if you want to keep root, don't update.

TheArtiszan said:
I don't even get the update when I check since it has been modified in an "unauthorized way"
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Dont Update!!!!!!! Not only do you lose root BUT you also lose your unlocked bootloader and you cant flash custom recoveries anymore until someone comes up with a method and you can't downgrade.

ethanscooter said:
Dont Update!!!!!!! Not only do you lose root BUT you also lose your unlocked bootloader and you cant flash custom recoveries anymore until someone comes up with a method and you can't downgrade.
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The bootloader is still unlocked. It's custom recoveries like TWRP that need to be updated to work in conjunction with the new bootloader. That's all.