Android 4.4 on rooted VZW device - Moto X Q&A

Got the OTA for 4.4, how do I apply that to custom recovery? Or do I have to wait till it comes in a downloadable zip and flash it in custom recovery?

tluley51 said:
Got the OTA for 4.4, how do I apply that to custom recovery? Or do I have to wait till it comes in a downloadable zip and flash it in custom recovery?
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Are you on a VZW Developer Edition (unlocked)?

defsquad said:
Are you on a VZW Developer Edition (unlocked)?
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No sir. Safestrap on regular version, 16gb

tluley51 said:
No sir. Safestrap on regular version, 16gb
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there is no way to maintain root and take the 4.4 currently unless you have a dev phone or unlockable bootloader

bummer, was thinking that if on rooted VZW Developer Edition you could OTA update then reboot into recovery and install Su again (with TWRP for instance).

defsquad said:
bummer, was thinking that if on rooted VZW Developer Edition you could OTA update then reboot into recovery and install Su again (with TWRP for instance).
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if you have a dev edition then you can get root because you have an unlocked BL.

jayboyyyy said:
if you have a dev edition then you can get root because you have an unlocked BL.
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sorry for the ignorance, but do you happen to have the steps after unlocking the bootloader to install root? I have the dev edition and just upgraded to 4.4 and am interested in gaining root.

schmoe0013 said:
sorry for the ignorance, but do you happen to have the steps after unlocking the bootloader to install root? I have the dev edition and just upgraded to 4.4 and am interested in gaining root.
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same way you did on the last update you did. you may have to wait a sec if the su and cwm hasn't been udpated to 4.4 but i think it has so you should be able to get root the exact same way you got rot when you took the 4.2.2 OTA

jayboyyyy said:
same way you did on the last update you did. you may have to wait a sec if the su and cwm hasn't been udpated to 4.4 but i think it has so you should be able to get root the exact same way you got rot when you took the 4.2.2 OTA
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I have yet to perform any such activity.
With some googling, I am estimating the process to be something along the lines of:
unlock bootloader via motorola site
install cwm?
push su app to system
victory?
I have development background but have not kept up recently with process of these things.

jayboyyyy said:
there is no way to maintain root and take the 4.4 currently unless you have a dev phone or unlockable bootloader
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Okay, so to take the update, I have to unroot and flash stock recovery?

tluley51 said:
Okay, so to take the update, I have to unroot and flash stock recovery?
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be careful how you do it
I tried that, along with some other things, and apparently it didnt work

alex94kumar said:
be careful how you do it
I tried that, along with some other things, and apparently it didnt work
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I cheated...I used a toolkit and it did it all for me. Downloading the OTA now and hopefully it gets me all set

tluley51 said:
I cheated...I used a toolkit and it did it all for me. Downloading the OTA now and hopefully it gets me all set
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Which toolkit?

schmoe0013 said:
sorry for the ignorance, but do you happen to have the steps after unlocking the bootloader to install root? I have the dev edition and just upgraded to 4.4 and am interested in gaining root.
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To unlock the boot loader I went to the Motorola website and did it.
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schmoe0013 said:
I have yet to perform any such activity.
With some googling, I am estimating the process to be something along the lines of:
unlock bootloader via motorola site
install cwm?
push su app to system
victory?
I have development background but have not kept up recently with process of these things.
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all sounds good to me. sorry if someone answered you already and this is a repost. but that sounds accurate.

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[Q] Root for 4.4 OTA Update?

Is there any current root methods for the 4.4 OTA update for the MotoX?
Any and all answers will be appreciated!
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
mastermind278 said:
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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Thanks!
2 choices
bladeofdarkness said:
Is there any current root methods for the 4.4 OTA update for the MotoX?
Any and all answers will be appreciated!
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First you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 (camera update) via RSD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515&highlight=rsdlite
Then Either:
A. Follow All Steps in SlapMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896 (which ends with 4.4 rooted)
OR
B. Do RockMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590 (which leaves you with 4.2.2 camera update rooted)
Install Safestrap - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Then, Install the 4.4 ROM via Safestrap (plus remember to manually flash 4.4 kernel and radio) - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I did the latter, but I think the more mainstream path seems to be the SlapMyMoto method....
up to you...
on OTA 4.4
so is everyone saying if you are on 4.4 there is no way to root unless you follow the downgrade process by jcase?
seems silly I went through all the trouble of buying a develop edition and i just unlocked my bootloader and i still have to do this extensive process just to downgrade to get root and keep root and then upgrade why is there not a quick simply root on 4.4 DE
Valnomien said:
so is everyone saying if you are on 4.4 there is no way to root unless you follow the downgrade process by jcase?
seems silly I went through all the trouble of buying a develop edition and i just unlocked my bootloader and i still have to do this extensive process just to downgrade to get root and keep root and then upgrade why is there not a quick simply root on 4.4 DE
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Ermm correct me if I'm mistaken but the above instructions are only for locked bootloaders. Since you have the dev edition, all you need to do is unlock the bootloader, flash the TWRP port floating around here, reboot and accept the SuperSU installation.
It's that simple. As someone buying a dev edition, I would have thought you would know this.
Sorry I did not know that coming in to this I wasn't really given a choice because moto screwed up cyber Monday I just figured what the hell get the Dev edition as it's protected with warranty and unlock boot loader I did find a cyanogen wiki that eventually lead me to your conclusion I flashed twrp and now rooted thanks
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mastermind278 said:
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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In other words jump through hoops.
esskayy said:
Ermm correct me if I'm mistaken but the above instructions are only for locked bootloaders. Since you have the dev edition, all you need to do is unlock the bootloader, flash the TWRP port floating around here, reboot and accept the SuperSU installation.
It's that simple. As someone buying a dev edition, I would have thought you would know this.
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I have the non dev edition - I'm guessing it's not this easy then?
Assumption
mpkrcl said:
First you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 (camera update) via RSD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515&highlight=rsdlite
Then Either:
A. Follow All Steps in SlapMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896 (which ends with 4.4 rooted)
OR
B. Do RockMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590 (which leaves you with 4.2.2 camera update rooted)
Install Safestrap - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Then, Install the 4.4 ROM via Safestrap (plus remember to manually flash 4.4 kernel and radio) - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I did the latter, but I think the more mainstream path seems to be the SlapMyMoto method....
up to you...
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I apologize, my advice above assumed a locked/unlockable bootloader (ATT or VZW retail)
Dev Editions or other carriers are unlockable at Moto's website, then just flash a custom recovery, and flash SuperSU.

[Q] got a new VZW Moto X - root first or OTA to 4.4 then root?

Hi All,
I just got a new X yesterday and it's running 4.2.2. I heard there's a root method for 4.4 so I'm wondering if it's better to root now, then flash a stock 4.4 ROM or take the OTA to 4.4 and then root?
amghoon said:
Hi All,
I just got a new X yesterday and it's running 4.2.2. I heard there's a root method for 4.4 so I'm wondering if it's better to root now, then flash a stock 4.4 ROM or take the OTA to 4.4 and then root?
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the 4.4 root process starts on 4.2.2 check out the guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
use the guide for Locked bootloaders that should get you started let me know if you have any issues
dray_jr said:
the 4.4 root process starts on 4.2.2 check out the guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
use the guide for Locked bootloaders that should get you started let me know if you have any issues
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Does this guide work for the Verizon moto x? In step one it seems to imply that it only works for Sprint and AT&T. I apologize if this is a dumb question however I just want to make sure before I start.
Thanks
mamba94 said:
Does this guide work for the Verizon moto x? In step one it seems to imply that it only works for Sprint and AT&T. I apologize if this is a dumb question however I just want to make sure before I start.
Thanks
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the guide is created for all Moto X i just uploaded some complete packages for atnt and sprint just never finished uploading the others
dray_jr said:
the guide is created for all Moto X i just uploaded some complete packages for atnt and sprint just never finished uploading the others
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Oh okay understood!
Thanks for responding I appreciate it.
mamba94 said:
Oh okay understood!
Thanks for responding I appreciate it.
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np good luck mate
dray_jr said:
the 4.4 root process starts on 4.2.2 check out the guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
use the guide for Locked bootloaders that should get you started let me know if you have any issues
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Thanks for putting that together dray; I had one question about installing TWRP. It seems like this is the case based on the instructions, but I wanted to be sure, is it OK to install the twrp-2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img even though I am running 4.2.2?
I have my bootloader unlocked already (VZW DE and gone through that process via adb) and have been trying to figure out which custom recovery to flash.
TIA
DuvelDroid said:
Thanks for putting that together dray; I had one question about installing TWRP. It seems like this is the case based on the instructions, but I wanted to be sure, is it OK to install the twrp-2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img even though I am running 4.2.2?
I have my bootloader unlocked already (VZW DE and gone through that process via adb) and have been trying to figure out which custom recovery to flash.
TIA
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yea that is fine
DuvelDroid said:
Thanks for putting that together dray; I had one question about installing TWRP. It seems like this is the case based on the instructions, but I wanted to be sure, is it OK to install the twrp-2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img even though I am running 4.2.2?
I have my bootloader unlocked already (VZW DE and gone through that process via adb) and have been trying to figure out which custom recovery to flash.
TIA
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did you get the twrp-2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img to flash successfully on 4.2.2 on your Dev edition?
I used mfastboot to flash it and when I try to go to recovery it just boots to Android/
drozek said:
did you get the twrp-2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img to flash successfully on 4.2.2 on your Dev edition?
I used mfastboot to flash it and when I try to go to recovery it just boots to Android/
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alot of people had this issue reinstall TWRP then then use the volume - button and highlight recovery then press the volume + button and it should boot into recovery
dray_jr said:
alot of people had this issue reinstall TWRP then then use the volume - button and highlight recovery then press the volume + button and it should boot into recovery
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Awesome thanks!
It's your vz still on 4.2.2? If so, will you please see what the boot loader version is?
Thanks
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drozek said:
did you get the twrp-2.6.3.1-ghost-4.4.img to flash successfully on 4.2.2 on your Dev edition?
I used mfastboot to flash it and when I try to go to recovery it just boots to Android/
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Yeah, as dray_jr mentioned, after you flash it, you have to select recovery rather than rebooting.
This video also helped me (youtube.com/watch?v=sw675ipX-ds) (I don't have enough posts to hyperlink).
I actually followed the video but dray's instructions are the same process.

Root for 4.4.2 GSM Developer Editiln

For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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overthatscreen said:
For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If so I am sure it will only be a matter of time before someone updates the TWRP custom recovery for a Moto X on 4.4.2.
The only way to root 4.4.2 is off your phone's bootloader is unlocked or can be unlocked.
There is no root for locked bootloader
Here is the process for unlocked bootloader
Unlock your bootloader
Install custom recovery
Flash SuperSU flashable zip
And your done
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Install custom recovery
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But can you use the version of TWRP that is for 4.4? Or has it been updated for 4.4.2? Don't the custom recoveries need to be updated for the new versions of the OS?
The same version of twrp works for 4.4 and 4.4.2.
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Yes and Yes. I also have a GSM Dev Edition with an Unlocked Bootloader and the same root method worked and the bootloader remained unlocked.
overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ?
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It is always the same if your bootloader is unlocked in that you flash custom recovery and install a superuser. The only thing that would change is if the custom recovery changes for the new version of the OS or if the super user is updated.
I just outlined it all here:
How To Root Your Unlocked Moto X Running Kit Kat
overthatscreen said:
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Going through the root process has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader. Once unlocked, your bootloader will stay unlocked until you relock it.
Sounds good. I'll just reflash back to stock and update then root.
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Well I just got done flashing with the Moto X Restore Utility, updated to 4.4.2, flashed TWRP, and rooted.
Aw well. I was going to contribute that if you were annoyed by the 4.4.2 OTA constantly in your face: you can disable the MotorolaOTA system service.

[Q] Should i do OTA 4.4.4 Update? (verizon)

I'm running 4.4.2 unlocked bootloader . I was able to root using TWRP
I love the stock system so i dont care for a custom rom atm, i only wanna keep root.
If i do the ota 4.4.4 update will i keep root? Or if i lose it, can i just install via TWRP again?
jonortiz said:
I'm running 4.4.2 unlocked bootloader . I was able to root using TWRP
I love the stock system so i dont care for a custom rom atm, i only wanna keep root.
If i do the ota 4.4.4 update will i keep root?
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You have to return to the stock recovery to take the OTA. If you are not totally stock system, you have to return the system to stock. Totally stock means no Xposed framework, no tethering mods, no changes to the system at all.
jonortiz said:
Or if i lose it, can i just install via TWRP again?
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Yes of course - TWRP and SuperSU or whatever other Superuser you use.
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Wansanta said:
You have to return to the stock recovery to take the OTA. If you are not totally stock system, you have to return the system to stock. Totally stock means no Xposed framework, no tethering mods, no changes to the system at all.
Yes of course - TWRP and SuperSU or whatever other Superuser you use.
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could you link me to a way to return to stock recovery?
jonortiz said:
could you link me to a way to return to stock recovery?
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Its in one of the stickies either here or on general how to return to stock to take an OTA.
Basically, you get the 4.4.2 sbf for Verizon Moto X. Then you unzip it and use mfastboot to flash recovery.img. But the site with the sbf's has been down alot lately. You may be able to use regular fastboot to flash recovery. I think you only need mfastboot to flash the system.img.
Be sure and make a nandroid before you flash the stock recovery!
Can just use the 4.4.4 fxz in general. Less steps, forgets about OTA...
Then just flash recovery and root. Back to gold
tapa'd on my moto x
chrisp6825 said:
Can just use the 4.4.4 fxz in general. Less steps, forgets about OTA...
Then just flash recovery and root. Back to gold
tapa'd on my moto x
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Do this it's super simple
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Do this it's super simple
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While the 4.4.4 sbf is available for Verizon, it is not available for ATT or TMobile. For sprint, there is an unofficial one.
Wansanta said:
While the 4.4.4 sbf is available for Verizon, it is not available for ATT or TMobile. For sprint, there is an unofficial one.
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The OP is on Verizon. This thread isn't about the other carriers. ?
KJ said:
The OP is on Verizon. This thread isn't about the other carriers. ?
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I see that now that you mentioned it. The new layout is truncating the thread titles on me. I really don't like the new layout for reasons like that, but I suppose someone must like it or they wouldn't have changed it.

[Q] rooted

Do i have to unroot my moto x for the lollipop update??
rahulgoyal93 said:
Do i have to unroot my moto x for the lollipop update??
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I don't think so, however, if you made any changes to your /system directory the OTA will probably fail.
bhmcarr said:
I don't think so, however, if you made any changes to your /system directory the OTA will probably fail.
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But I read on internet that i probably unrooted automatically after upadte and afterwards i cant able to root my phone again.
rahulgoyal93 said:
But I read on internet that i probably unrooted automatically after upadte and afterwards i cant able to root my phone again.
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If you're unlocked then no problem regarding gaining root.
But yes you have to unroot to receive update
adity said:
If you're unlocked then no problem regarding gaining root.
But yes you have to unroot to receive update
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so can you please give me the link of unrooting the moto x device it would be a great help.
Really? Try scanning threads in this general section. The returning to stock thread always is hovering near the top.
And questions go in the Q&A section.
rahulgoyal93 said:
But I read on internet that i probably unrooted automatically after upadte and afterwards i cant able to root my phone again.
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It depends on which model you have. If you have a model with an unlockable bootloader, you can just re-root when you're done in the same way as you did initially. If you used an exploit on a locked (AT&T/Verizon/Republic) model to get root, it's pretty much guaranteed that you won't be able to get root after the update, and I wouldn't count on another exploit showing up anytime soon, if ever.
You can flash OTA updates while rooted, as long as nothing else is modified or missing from /system and you don't have custom recovery. The update won't remove the su binary either, but permissions will be messed up so it will seem like you're unrooted after you restart.
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imnuts said:
You can flash OTA updates while rooted, as long as nothing else is modified or missing from /system and you don't have custom recovery. The update won't remove the su binary either, but permissions will be messed up so it will seem like you're unrooted after you restart.
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I install twrp recovery in device and nothing done with the system and i cant find a way to unroot device
imnuts said:
You can flash OTA updates while rooted, as long as nothing else is modified or missing from /system and you don't have custom recovery. The update won't remove the su binary either, but permissions will be messed up so it will seem like you're unrooted after you restart.
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So I can leave twrp installed & remove Xposed and its Modules ?
Thanks
Mickoou said:
So I can leave twrp installed & remove Xposed and its Modules ?
Thanks
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At least read the post you quote
rahulgoyal93 said:
so can you please give me the link of unrooting the moto x device it would be a great help.
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hey can i use temporary unroot option in supersu for the ota??
Can someone post a link to the stock recovery.img? all links i find seem to be dead. VZW standard edition.

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