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Force 4x msaa (dev options)

So i notice now in 4.2 in developer options we have the option to force 4x multi sample anti aliasing. Should this improve gaming performance?
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As far as I know of Pc gaming, increasing anti aliasing increases graphics quality but reduces performance.. It might be that everyone is talking about better and sharper texts..

Yes the text is much better very crisp.
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Is it active by default..? Otherwise I don't see a reason of it being on dev options..

No, i enabled it.
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So text are crisp and clear when it is enabled or they are already crisp even it is not enabled.. Shortly what difference can you see when switched on/off?

I am not sure if the crisp text is anything to do with this option.
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This should only work when playing a game since it's a 3d application. It will smooth out the rugged edges, and thus enhancing the visual quality.
This does nothing in normal usage tho'. So you won't notice it unless you are playing a game that's very "pixely".

I've lost the dev options in Settings
Is it in other path?

Go to about tablet. And keep tapping build number.
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Go to about tablet. And keep tapping build number.
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Yeah. I read about this a few weeks ago. Not sure why Google hid it though. Force 2d rendering benefits pretty much everyone. I am surprised its not on by default now. Ive never really encountered any apps that have issues.
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Its really great that google implemented that, it makes android actually to a much better gaming platform for me. Now zoo the bad news: this wont work with our nexus because tegra 1/2/3 are the only gpu known to man that don't support msaa.

Yep, Nvidia Tegra implements CSAA https://developer.nvidia.com/csaa-coverage-sampling-antialiasing

So, will enabling this option, cause any problems on tegra devices?

A quick google search says that msaa on the tegra chip only shows up in open gl applications. got a game that runs in open gl? then msaa should make it look prettier by (as someone else stated) blurring out jagged edges. text in games should be better but im not quite sure how exactly msaa works using its edge detection. on my gaming rig i have amd and LOVE their msaa. Far superior to msaa and nvidias txaa (imo). msaa will blur text edges and everything for a really nice and sharp look on about everything on every game

blackhand1001 said:
Not sure why Google hid it though.
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Probably because they would rather not have muppets who don't have a clue what they're doing messing with the settings in there.
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knuckles1978 said:
Probably because they would rather not have muppets who don't have a clue what they're doing messing with the settings in there.
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Since we're talking about muppets... Does anyone know a source where every option in the Dev options is well explained? ^^`
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Thanks for this thread
<---- Noob, ok now that is out of the way.
Thank you all so much for this thread. I finally got around to rooting my i717 and been playing with CM10, and AOSP The Collective. I flashed CM10.1 once, but because of all the screen tearing in landscape I couldn't play most of my games. I loved AOSP, but the kernel, I believe, will not let you move apps to SD which is a big deal to me. I finally went back to CM10.1 after finding out how to get the dev option to disable HW overlays and force GPU for 2d. I could not find this information in the Galaxy Note i717 forums.

Halo13Ghost said:
<---- Noob, ok now that is out of the way.
Thank you all so much for this thread. I finally got around to rooting my i717 and been playing with CM10, and AOSP The Collective. I flashed CM10.1 once, but because of all the screen tearing in landscape I couldn't play most of my games. I loved AOSP, but the kernel, I believe, will not let you move apps to SD which is a big deal to me. I finally went back to CM10.1 after finding out how to get the dev option to disable HW overlays and force GPU for 2d. I could not find this information in the Galaxy Note i717 forums.
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Wrong thread?

Developers can set the level of anti aliasing for Tegra 3 in their code manually. Although this option for us might be useful for a particularly jagged game, I ran through Epics Citadel multiple times with 4x AA enabled and disabled without being able to discern a difference.
Maybe if someone finds a title that this developer option utilizes well they can post it to this thread.

My Take On The Nexus 4

As someone who has tried (and failed) to switch from iOS to Android in the past, I feel I should share this with other who maybe have the same problem.
I have tried some many android devices, HTC, Galaxy S, S2 then S3. Galaxy Note, you name it I've gave it a go.
Problem I always had was that it was too laggy or had too many things missing for me that I loved about iOS
I have once again taken the plunge with the Nexus 4.
I LOVE this phone. LOVE. It is everything a phone should be, to a point. It's the best android phone i've ever owned. I hate the look of touchwiz, never a massive fan of sense, the sheer beauty of the "people" app, should be enough to tell you that google has ARRIVED.
My only bug bears are the obvious lack of storage, which i'm actually doing suprisngly well with, like I have an N7 which I watch films / tv shows on, so the N4 is basically for music, along with spotify it's working like a dream (also have google play with 16,000 songs, which is working well, although download speeds are awful)
The other biggy, and this is the one is the battery life, I've tried franco kernel, cm10, stock kernel, etc etc. There's no two ways about it, with the screen turned on and using 3G it EATS the battery and that saddens me a lot. I'm lucky that I can charge it at work, but lordy lordy lord does it eat a lot. It's a shame, I'm hoping in the future they'll be a fix for this, I mean it's not a show stopper, but it's more annoying than anything else, seeing the battery go down as you use it for browsing and listening to music etc
Other than that, I think I've finally done it, I've finally broken the iOS spell and made the move. I'm delighted, the phone is lovely to look at, lovely to hold and use (and actually works unlike my f*cking iphone which dropped calls left right and centre)
I'm chuffed

Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
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steviewevie said:
Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
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Am wondering if maybe it's something im doing wrong. I may well try and do anything wipe and re-install from scratch etc
Appreciate the reply.

Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
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How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?

Terd Ferguson said:
Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
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How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?
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yeah im getting a full day probably, but it's obviously dependant on use.

try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
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lowrider262 said:
try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
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okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?

gsusx said:
okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod
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ahh thanks man, appreciate the help

I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs

Definitely I know for myself that I'm happy with anything below 1.5cm which we know would give a lot more battery life,shame we are stuck with manufacturer's going for thinner phones and the only company to buck the trend is Motorola however their phones currently suck .
Battery life is improving for me I have narrowed it down to the radio, it seems mobile data destroys it much more than ant other phone I have used...WiFi performance is amazing and idle well I can say its the best. This was on the matr1x 4.0 kernel, not stock however.
Not sure why mobile data kills this device but WiFi efficiency is through the roof at least
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lowrider262 said:
faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
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hi
have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?

Battery life is definitely a problem when using a phone with mobile data on. That's Google's mistake with android 4.2 and hopefully be fixed on 4.2.2.
Also congrats on moving to Android. I also moved from iPhone to android. To nexus s to be exact. The experience wasn't lag free but it did what I needed to and I loved the customization that android brought. Since then, been using android, but only nexus devices as I love pure android look
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gsusx said:
I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs
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you realize that the iPhone's battery is about 1400 mAh right? the secret here is an efficient yet limited software.
that's not to say that the 2100 mAh is not big enough for an Android device. it should do just as good if not better than the S3, which has a similar sized battery. something certainly is not working as intended. some say a buggy radio, others speak of the 4.2 and hardware not optimized. whatever it is, i am hopeful that a software update will take care of it.
i generally agree with the OP, i don't see myself using skinned Android anymore. stock android>IOS>skinned android.

Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's
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gsusx said:
hi
have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?
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open system tuner, press the voltage button, the first voltage (384) should be 900mv. press the -12.5mv a few times until that first one says 800mv, now they're all lowered by 100 you can go further if you want, some chips can handle -150 no problem. but in my experience 100 is pretty safe and enough to notice a difference in battery
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Android is already better than iOS in terms of users anyway, I would like to just pick at the part of Jobs making the touchscreen...he didnt it was infact HTC that made the first capacitive touchscreen device, Apple just put together all the same hardware 5 years later and marketed the crap out of it which is great its typical apple and now we have an amazing market where Android exists and these high end smartphones are popular and back in the market .

That's apple all over though really isnt it
I mean archos brought out an Mp3 player with video about 3 years before apple did it on the ipod, apple then claimed they invented that, along with the wheel, dinosaurs, and the earth

If you guys are worried about the battery I highly recommend an external battery pack. I know they look sorta gimmicky like that stocking stuffer present you get and never use but there are some sleek looking ones that match the beauty of the nexus 4 and are easy to use. Its sorta like carrying another phone around in terms of weight/size.
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The op said he has access to a charger so what is the problem? It is not like we are in the woods.
You are using a personal computer. If you sit down and listen to music and have the screen on how long do you expect it to last?
I also listen to podcasts bit I know of I do this I will not get an entire day.
When I use the phone normally I get great battery life. Just go into your apps in the panel and look under running. Use titanium backup to freezing what you don't need.
Good luck..
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So you think you "calibrated" your display

There is an app called Display Tester which shows if your display is calibrated well. It shows you colors with many different shades of those colors. Basically, when the colors switch nicely and smoothly and each shade has its own visible box it means your screen is well calibrated. There's also gamma stuff which is important.
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damn some lines are still present on banding test

That's what I'm saying. We got a long way to go. Also a lot of the blocks are indistinguishable meaning some values are off. By lines you mean those dark horizontal lines right? I have them too
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noobletsausecakebbq said:
That's what I'm saying. We got a long way to go. Also a lot of the blocks are indistinguishable meaning some values are off. By lines you mean those dark horizontal lines right? I have them too
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Same here, you can fix the colours but not gamma yet.
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and the last visible box on "black saturation box" test was #2

I don't care about that, as long as it looks good to me

Michealtbh said:
I don't care about that, as long as it looks good to me
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Me too, the problem arises when we have to develop and test (i.e. apps or web) on a 'miscalibrated' display. Apart from that it's all good.
Thank you all you guys, for your effort and discoveries. Although we don't have a definitive solution yet, just knowing it make things coherent.
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Might do a test later and see if there's any difference on stock jwr 4.3 kernel compared to 4.2.2
I will use a custom 4.3 kernel with gamma control with 4.2.2 values to compare with.

So can you guys tell me what methods of altering color settings there are besides the old [0-255]Red,Green,Blue. And amp0 amp1. This is all I have using trickstermod and Matr1x 4.3 kernel. Are there currently any other WORKING methods to alter colors? I heard something about faux and gamma.:cyclops:

well theres some calibration kernel released.theres also faux clock and franco app which lets you calibrate the display.but some people said that calibrating will do damage to screen and posibbly burn the screen.

Michealtbh said:
I don't care about that, as long as it looks good to me
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This.

Yep just up the colour intensity a little but not so far that skin tones look like radiation burns (folks do get carried away) and you are good to go.

Thats the app i used to find my optimal settings. Modified ceejays (i think its in the spreadsheet/francos app - i increased contrast to "2" from "0" to get gamma 2.2) settings to get 2.2 gamma on RBG and very minimal (hardly visible) banding. Infact, the banding is not worse that stock settings. Colors look absolutly fantastic compared to dull/washed out 1.6 (?) gamma stock settings.

i'm f**king colorblind, so it doesn't matter to me what you "regular" people see...my colors are awesome

Pink Tint and Brightness.

Hey guys, just got my nexus 6 yesterday and I noticed I have the pink tint issue only when I'm using adaptive brightness, its not a big deal for me but once kernels get gamma control support would we be able to fix this issue? just curious if its fully a hardware problem or software.
Also I don't if this has been answered already but why does the brightness go so much lower when adaptive brightness is on?
Any insight would be great, thanks!

I'm wondering the same thing! And what's the difference on battery comparing adaptive brightness on vs off aswell

If I turn my brightness way down it turns pinkish.
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crisvillani said:
Hey guys, just got my nexus 6 yesterday and I noticed I have the pink tint issue only when I'm using adaptive brightness, its not a big deal for me but once kernels get gamma control support would we be able to fix this issue? just curious if its fully a hardware problem or software.
Any insight would be great, thanks!
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ElementalX kernel has gamma control capabilities if you use the app for the kernel. It works great.
Here is the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57079194
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The nexus 6 is made to do this. It was explained before the phones release although I forget the link I read it on.
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trickster2369 said:
ElementalX kernel has gamma control capabilities if you use the app for the kernel. It works great.
Here is the link :
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ElementalX has color control like other kernels but no kernels have gamma control yet.
That being said. I found running the device on the cooler side ~7400K reduces the pinkish hue seen in dark rooms on lower brightness with adaptive display

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ElementalX has color control like other kernels but no kernels have gamma control yet.
That being said. I found running the device on the cooler side ~7400K reduces the pinkish hue seen in dark rooms on lower brightness with adaptive display
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True enough. Was thinking one in the same.
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Root and stay stock or ROM?

I am new to the N6 world and I am not happy with the battery performance getting around 3.5 SOT and max of 12 hrs of overall battery usage. I am so tempted to root, CM12.1 and Franco kernel. But I am hearing bad battery results with CM12.1. I know everyone has different way of usage but if you can share your experience it will be great. I have three pus email accounts one is exchange, twitter, instagram, Google+ (manual sync), screen brightness is 10%, no adaptive brightness, no ambent display, no location, i use Google now, rarely play games, dropbox, Google drive, one drive, turned off all Google sync except for contacts, calendar... etc.
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You can squeeze another hour of SOT with a custom ROM and kernel. I usually get 4 to 4.5. Everyone's phone is unique but benzo kernel gives me very good battery life regardless of the ROM it is used with. It is based off hells core kernel which many people agree is among the best.

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You can squeeze another hour of SOT with a custom ROM and kernel. I usually get 4 to 4.5. Everyone's phone is unique but benzo kernel gives me very good battery life regardless of the ROM it is used with. It is based off hells core kernel which many people agree is among the best.
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Thank you can you share the xda link to that kernel?
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nabobcoffee said:
Thank you can you share the xda link to that kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/kernel-benzocore-kernel-t3139822
Good luck!

A custom ROM with settings with by Kernel Adiutor (or Synapse,...) *may* help. There are so many factors, including use (which you've touched on), areas of travel/use (and therefore reception), baseband version,...
Regardless, your willingness and patience to experiment with different kernels (recommend hellscore/benzoCore or blu_spark as starting points) and ROMs are very helpful!

Has anyone tried CM12.1 it seems like a very clean interface?
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nabobcoffee said:
I am new to the N6 world and I am not happy with the battery performance getting around 3.5 SOT and max of 12 hrs of overall battery usage. I am so tempted to root, CM12.1 and Franco kernel. But I am hearing bad battery results with CM12.1. I know everyone has different way of usage but if you can share your experience it will be great. I have three pus email accounts one is exchange, twitter, instagram, Google+ (manual sync), screen brightness is 10%, no adaptive brightness, no ambent display, no location, i use Google now, rarely play games, dropbox, Google drive, one drive, turned off all Google sync except for contacts, calendar... etc.
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Try the M3 stock. I don't think you'll be disappointed. The battery is what it is, you can get some improvements however I think most of them exist in how the device deep sleeps. JDX 3.01 (rom) is in the thread. Good luck.
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All custom kernels.can be tweaked for battery life. The choice.of kernel is pretty much irrelevant, unless you can't be bothered to learn the tweaks
Also, ROMs.have very little influence on battery life unless it's bloated and poorly coded. Although in.not saying CM is either of those things, typically cm ROMs have been poorer on battery life than their aosp cousins.

nabobcoffee said:
. . . I am not happy with the battery performance. . .
I know everyone has different way of usage but if you can share your experience it will be great.
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My N6 - stock 5.1.1 - Franco Kernel.
For battery life I am using apps with a black background when possible.
No G-mail but K-9 Mail.
No wallpaper 'No wallpaper app'.
WiFi interval changed to 200 with build.prop editor.
Flashed Black Google Now launcher
(Needs Google.app updates uninstalled).
Disabled not used g-apps.
Disabled not used services.

Actually today I am bit surprised of how well the battery behaved. I got 4 hrs SOT, 3 hrs of talk time, listing to music.
Here is what I did and I believe that pumped up my battery performance.
1. Switched network to 3G.
2. No WiFi.
3. Wiped cache from boot recovery.
I will keep an eye on it but if that's the case then I will just stay stock until M is out.
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nabobcoffee said:
Actually today I am bit surprised of how well the battery behaved. I got 4 hrs SOT, 3 hrs of talk time, listing to music.
Here is what I did and I believe that pumped up my battery performance.
1. Switched network to 3G.
2. No WiFi.
3. Wiped cache from boot recovery.
I will keep an eye on it but if that's the case then I will just stay stock until M is out.
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You are welcome
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I am on Android M p3 and things are looking very promising specially in the performance and battery life department.
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nabobcoffee said:
. . . believe that pumped up my battery performance.
1. Switched network to 3G.
2. No WiFi.
3. Wiped cache from boot recovery.
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Yes agree, I noticed that too (switching to 2G).
Probably the 4G network is to weak for indoor use, and maybe bad signal causes more battery.
Hope you don' t mind that I add another point.
4. Restrict app background data of all apps. (Settings - Data usage - < per app setting > )

I just flashed Android M P3 and it looks promising regarding battery life and I am like the added features. Highly recommend to check it out.
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nabobcoffee said:
I just flashed Android M P3 and it looks promising . . .
Highly recommend to check it out.
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Unfortunately my navigation app Sygic won't start in M P3. Needed to go back to 5.1.1