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[Q] Did the Dev Edition not get 4.4.4?

So I keep seeing these articles about the carrier versions getting the 4.4.4 update and I check and see my Dev Edition phone has 4.4.3. Naturally, I check for updates, but it says my software is up to date?
Does the Dev Edition not require 4.4.4?

Its most recent version for it is 4.4.3, but the newest image Moto will GIVE you to restore to is 4.4.2.... stupid as trying to do that will brick your phone.

Bionic22 said:
So I keep seeing these articles about the carrier versions getting the 4.4.4 update and I check and see my Dev Edition phone has 4.4.3. Naturally, I check for updates, but it says my software is up to date?
Does the Dev Edition not require 4.4.4?
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If you are referring to the GSM dev edition, then NO. Not yet. It might not get it at all and go straight to Android L instead...we don't know.
You see, you are on 4.4.3 -- which is *exactly* the same as 4.4.4 except for the ssl bug and a few other minor code changes. You were one of the first to get 4.4.3.
The other carriers HALTED their 4.4.3 roll-out once the SSL bug was discovered. Instead, they fixed the bug and called it "4.4.4".
There is really nothing important that you don't already have in 4.4.3 that 4.4.4 can offer, so no reason to be in a rush. The likelyhood of you leaking any data due to the ssl bug is astronomically small since you are using a smart phone.
Hope that helps explain things...
knitler said:
Its most recent version for it is 4.4.3, but the newest image Moto will GIVE you to restore to is 4.4.2.... stupid as trying to do that will brick your phone.
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Stupid indeed! I discussed this same topic with another member...
Fortunately, you can find the entire 4.4.3 SBF here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=919

Lollipop due on S4 active March-April 2015

http://www.theandroidsoul.com/andro...dule-samsung-htc-sony-motorola-manufacturers/
Google announced the Android 5.0 Lollipop a couple of days back and we’re already hearing news from various Android manufacturer partners for their Android 5.0 Lollipop update schedule. Major companies like HTC and Motorola announced their update plans right after a few hours of Google’s announcement, while Sony took a day to announce its update plans.

Just to be clear, the source article states that Samsung has NOT announced any plans to update to Lollipop, and the article goes on to speculate what those dates might be "based on past update cycles". So any of the dates are nothing more than pure guesses anyway. And the "date" given for the S4 Active would be a guess for the non-branded version supplied directly by Samsung. Anything that might or might not come for an AT&T version would come many months later, if at all. Just to be clear. Personally, while it would be fantastic to get Lollipop, I'm not holding my breath...

^_^
didn't get my kitkat update yet and you guys are talking about lolipop .... how sad am i !?

same here no update still on 4.2

I don't know about ota update, but people use official kitkat around 6 months. Install update via odin and job is done.

MiZoSpaDe said:
didn't get my kitkat update yet and you guys are talking about lolipop .... how sad am i !?
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You're just gonna skip directly to lollipop. No trouble.

You can install the kitkat update from any country it will work I did it as I know that my country will be listed

How to upgrade
Yeah! Can you tell us how you upgrade? Cause I cant upgrade to KK yet, and Lolipop i almot here?...

You should download the firmware from sammobile and it will explain you how to do it

5.0.1 come
It came.. NEE

mahferer said:
It came.. NEE
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Wait---you received "Lollipop"? If so, care to share some links?
Nevermind----It looks like a slim chance. I'll be sticking with my trusty Optimus pro for now.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-i9295-5-0-1-android-lollipop-update-t3044134

mahferer said:
It came.. NEE
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Isn't that the Finland release for the international model, i9295 ?
mahferer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-i9295-5-0-1-android-lollipop-update-t3044134
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Yeah and if you actually read that, that release is for the i9295, not the i537. Don't confuse people

Is here only for i537?
Don't confuse your own..

mahferer said:
Is here only for i537?
Don't confuse your own..
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Lollipop has been available for the international model (i9295) for months, it's called Cyanogenmod 12. The only people in this forum unable to use lollipop are those with the U.S. model (i537). Along with the fact that the title of that thread you linked to has the actual model number in its title (and the firmware build number does too), I'm not entirely sure what rebuttal you just failed to articulate, but I'd wager it's inaccurate.

thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Lollipop has been available for the international model (i9295) for months, it's called Cyanogenmod 12. The only people in this forum unable to use lollipop are those with the U.S. model (i537). Along with the fact that the title of that thread you linked to has the actual model number in its title (and the firmware build number does too), I'm not entirely sure what rebuttal you just failed to articulate, but I'd wager it's inaccurate.
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Firstly, this thread never implied its about the us variant i537, so his rebuttal was very accurate.
Secondly, The official Lollipop release only came a couple of days ago for the i9295, which is clearly what the OP of the thread begun talking about. Many people in this forum were unable to use lollipop as not many people count a port of Cyanogenmod stable enough to use daily.
Hope that helps you understand this thread better =)

any danger from manual update?
Hi friends. Sure most of you knows about the official 5.0.1 update for S4active which released for nordic countries on sammobile.
I am sill on 4.2.2 in Saudi arabia. My question is : should i update manually to kitkat firstly befor i install lollipop? And is there any dangers for updating my phone to this European update?
Attached my phone info and the update info

GS4 Active to Lollipop OTA
delphimon said:
Just to be clear, the source article states that Samsung has NOT announced any plans to update to Lollipop, and the article goes on to speculate what those dates might be "based on past update cycles". So any of the dates are nothing more than pure guesses anyway. And the "date" given for the S4 Active would be a guess for the non-branded version supplied directly by Samsung. Anything that might or might not come for an AT&T version would come many months later, if at all. Just to be clear. Personally, while it would be fantastic to get Lollipop, I'm not holding my breath...
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I have an unlocked AT&T GS4 Active that I'm currently using through MetroPCS. I still have an AT&T sim card. If I put the AT&T sim card back in the phone, would I have the ability to get the Android 5.0 update? I assume the answer is No as the AT&T sim is not provisioned, but would the sim allow me to get the update over the air? Do all carriers look at the make, model, build # and carrier of all devices to make sure the phone is compatible? I'm assuming if this doesn't work, rooting is the only way. Also, since I have service through MetroPCS, will they update to Lollipop once available or does my model number, SGH-i537, make them think I have AT&T ( and will not update software for the phone )?
Does having an unlocked phone prevent software updates specifically when the phone was made for one carrier only ( AT&T Active )?
Will MetroPCS automatically push software updates to all their customers or to just those that have an approved device from Metro?

David182 said:
I have an unlocked AT&T GS4 Active that I'm currently using through MetroPCS. I still have an AT&T sim card. If I put the AT&T sim card back in the phone, would I have the ability to get the Android 5.0 update? I assume the answer is No as the AT&T sim is not provisioned, but would the sim allow me to get the update over the air? Do all carriers look at the make, model, build # and carrier of all devices to make sure the phone is compatible? I'm assuming if this doesn't work, rooting is the only way. Also, since I have service through MetroPCS, will they update to Lollipop once available or does my model number, SGH-i537, make them think I have AT&T ( and will not update software for the phone )?
Does having an unlocked phone prevent software updates specifically when the phone was made for one carrier only ( AT&T Active )?
Will MetroPCS automatically push software updates to all their customers or to just those that have an approved device from Metro?
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You need to have an active AT&T sim card to get the update automatically. MetroPCS nor any other carrier will never provide updates to an AT&T phone. This is similar to asking if Honda will upgrade the engine of your Ford truck, it's never going to happen. Your only option is to update the phone manually using the guides provided in this forum.

Devo7v said:
You need to have an active AT&T sim card to get the update automatically. MetroPCS nor any other carrier will never provide updates to an AT&T phone. This is similar to asking if Honda will upgrade the engine of your Ford truck, it's never going to happen. Your only option is to update the phone manually using the guides provided in this forum.
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[Q] Stock Lollipop Update

Hello,
I can't find a thread on any information about a Motorola rom lollipop update for OG Moto X. Did I miss it, or is there really no news about it? Google really isn't helping here, it's a mix of Moto X 2014 information and news reports that say it's happening from the beginning of November.
Thanks :good:

I just asked an agent of Moto. He said that the update might be available within 10 days.
However, Moto hasnt officially given any information....

Who knows? So glad I forked out the extra cash for a "developer edition". Kinda thought timely updates would be included lol.

Lollipop source came out about a month and a half ago, the 2nd gen Moto X and G are still the only phone outside of Nexus and GPE that has a wide rollout of Lollipop. Given that the Droid Turbo is getting updated soon, I'd guess the 2013 phones will be getting updated at the end of December or sometime in January, still ahead of most other devices, and before anything else from last year. People need to learn WTF patience is.
Sent from my Moto X

hlaalu said:
Who knows? So glad I forked out the extra cash for a "developer edition". Kinda thought timely updates would be included lol.
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Nope.
Developer Edition of the 2013 X doesn't get updates any faster.
See the discussion starting at Post #4 of this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt1058-to-xt1053-developper-t2967009

If anything, developer editions are LESS likely to receive updates in general (e.g. Samsung)

scryan said:
If anything, developer editions are LESS likely to receive updates in general (e.g. Samsung)
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Which doesn't hold true with the Moto X or Motorola in general since the release of the Moto X.

scryan said:
If anything, developer editions are LESS likely to receive updates in general (e.g. Samsung)
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Guess you didn't read http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt1058-to-xt1053-developper-t2967009 starting with Post #4 like I suggested to hlaalu. In particular Post #6 Otherwise you would know that statement doesn't apply to the 2013 Moto X Dev Editions.

i'm on stock 4.4, not rooted but unlocked bootloader. Will i receive the OTA update ?

RoTo11R said:
i'm on stock 4.4, not rooted but unlocked bootloader. Will i receive the OTA update ?
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Yes you will

RoTo11R said:
i'm on stock 4.4, not rooted but unlocked bootloader. Will i receive the OTA update ?
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Do you have stock or custom recovery? If custom you will want to flash your stock recovery before taking a OTA.

Stock bootloader
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690sid said:
I just asked an agent of Moto. He said that the update might be available within 10 days.
However, Moto hasnt officially given any information....
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well, its been 10 days...guess we can strike that off the list

UK Nexus 6 asking me to update to 5.1.1, should I?

I'm on the o2 UK Network and running android 5.1 LMY47D it's asking me to update to 5.1.1 but I don't know if I should because the only 5.1.1 ROM's I've seen have been US Carrier Specific, not sure what to do, help?

You wouldn't be offered the update if it wasn't relevant. The ones on the Nexus Factory images website, suggest they are US carrier specific but that is not really the case. The difference with some Nexus 6 in the US is that the carriers must approve the updates before they are rolled out. When they say Sprint / USC only for example, that means out of the american carriers, only they can use this build. Most of the updates are international generic. So yes, update

wright_ac said:
I'm on the o2 UK Network and running android 5.1 LMY47D it's asking me to update to 5.1.1 but I don't know if I should because the only 5.1.1 ROM's I've seen have been US Carrier Specific, not sure what to do, help?
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I flashed build 47z to mine (also o2, uk) and has been working fine for over a week
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I did manage to find the upgrade path for various countries around the world, which of course I can't find now. Try a Google for that, it makes it much clearer

wright_ac said:
. . . running android 5.1 LMY47D it's asking me to update to 5.1.1 but I don't know if I should because the only 5.1.1 ROM's I've seen have been US Carrier Specific
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Here too (Netherlands).
I waited for the OTA update. Before the update N6 was running LMY47D and after update LMY47Z.
The factory image LMY47Z is marked 'For Sprint USC only', but it is working without issues.

NLBeev said:
The factory image LMY47Z is marked 'For Sprint USC only'.
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That text is meant for Americans only. That text is not true outside of USA

danarama said:
That text is meant for Americans only. That text is not true outside of USA
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LMY47Z works fine on all American carriers. I have had it on Verizon with zero issues since the day the factory image was released. Before that I used the LYZ28E "T-Mobile specific" build on Verizon and also had no issues.

patmw123 said:
LMY47Z works fine on all American carriers
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Yes it does. Every single factory image works on every single Nexus 6. The reason it is marked up as this is the latest updates for T-Mo and Verizon add carrier specific things like WiFi calling and better VoLTE respectively. So the recommendation is if you are in the US, those images are for SPRINT / USC only.

danarama said:
That text is meant for Americans only. That text is not true outside of USA
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Right but it was confusing. Especially outside the US.
I did not flash a factory image but waited for the OTA.
After receiving the OTA message and installing the update I found out that the version LMY47D was updated to LMY47Z.

NLBeev said:
Right but it was confusing. Especially outside the US.
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I agree

T-mobil MRA68K to MRA68X

I have a Nexus 6 bought directly from Motorola but with a T-mobil sim from my
last phone. I'm running the MRA68K factory image of 6.0., and have never been
offered an OTA update.
Let me tell you what I THINK I know.
Although MRA68K does include the T-mobile band 12 and wifi calling feature,
for some reason T-mobil was not happy with it due to some bug revealed
in testing. MRA68X is the release they are happy with, and is what T-mobil
users running 5.1.1 are getting OTA. This OTA is not usable for phones running
any of the 6.0 release. There currently is no factory image for MRA68X.
Here is what I don't know:
- Will MRA68X be eventually released as a factory image.? Usually that comes
before not after the OTA. If not it would seem the need to flash a 5.1.1 image
to be able to take the MRA68X OTA.
- Is the T-mobil specific release a one time thing, or will there be a sequence of
T-mobil specific releases as in 5.X?
- I presume that when the phone checks for an update it bases it on the carrier's
SIM. Just curious, is it Google downloading the update but subject to the carrier's
instructions?

kmandel said:
I have a Nexus 6 bought directly from Motorola but with a T-mobil sim from my
last phone. I'm running the MRA68K factory image of 6.0., and have never been
offered an OTA update.
Let me tell you what I THINK I know.
Although MRA68K does include the T-mobile band 12 and wifi calling feature,
for some reason T-mobil was not happy with it due to some bug revealed
in testing. MRA68X is the release they are happy with, and is what T-mobil
users running 5.1.1 are getting OTA. This OTA is not usable for phones running
any of the 6.0 release. There currently is no factory image for MRA68X.
Here is what I don't know:
- Will MRA68X be eventually released as a factory image.? Usually that comes
before not after the OTA. If not it would seem the need to flash a 5.1.1 image
to be able to take the MRA68X OTA.
- Is the T-mobil specific release a one time thing, or will there be a sequence of
T-mobil specific releases as in 5.X?
- I presume that when the phone checks for an update it bases it on the carrier's
SIM. Just curious, is it Google downloading the update but subject to the carrier's
instructions?
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I have run all the MRA builds (K, N, R) on T-Mobile and they all support and have fully functioning WiFi calling, Band 12 support, and VoLTE. Not sure what's specific about X but I decided to switch to it just because it's "official".
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

nnorton44 said:
I have run all the MRA builds (K, N, R) on T-Mobile and they all support and have fully functioning WiFi calling, Band 12 support, and VoLTE. Not sure what's specific about X but I decided to switch to it just because it's "official".
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How did you switch? Did you flash a 5.1.1 factory image and then take the OTA?

kmandel said:
How did you switch? Did you flash a 5.1.1 factory image and then take the OTA?
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For X I flashed the factory ProFi 5.1.1 then sideloaded the 48I to 58X OTA.
T-Mobile and ProFi will both use X.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I hope there's a factory release. Please post here if anyone gets it

kmandel said:
I have a Nexus 6 bought directly from Motorola but with a T-mobil sim from my
last phone. I'm running the MRA68K factory image of 6.0., and have never been
offered an OTA update.
Let me tell you what I THINK I know.
Although MRA68K does include the T-mobile band 12 and wifi calling feature,
for some reason T-mobil was not happy with it due to some bug revealed
in testing. MRA68X is the release they are happy with, and is what T-mobil
users running 5.1.1 are getting OTA. This OTA is not usable for phones running
any of the 6.0 release. There currently is no factory image for MRA68X.
Here is what I don't know:
- Will MRA68X be eventually released as a factory image.? Usually that comes
before not after the OTA. If not it would seem the need to flash a 5.1.1 image
to be able to take the MRA68X OTA.
- Is the T-mobil specific release a one time thing, or will there be a sequence of
T-mobil specific releases as in 5.X?
- I presume that when the phone checks for an update it bases it on the carrier's
SIM. Just curious, is it Google downloading the update but subject to the carrier's
instructions?
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Someone posted about this on the Android Central comments section: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...etting-an-over-the-air-update-to-marshmallow/
Looks like if you are on K you will get the X updated OTA

blazinazn said:
Someone posted about this on the Android Central comments section: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...etting-an-over-the-air-update-to-marshmallow/
Looks like if you are on K you will get the X updated OTA
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According to the T-mobile document
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-18109
It's only the L* releases that can be updated with the OTA.

kmandel said:
According to the T-mobile document
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-18109
It's only the L* releases that can be updated with the OTA.
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I don't see where it says *only* L releases get the update but it may just be a matter of semantics.
"To be able to update to the current software version, the below requirements must be met:"
^^^ I take this to mean that you must have at least L to get the update. If you are on M already then you still meet that requirement. That's just my thoughts though. Dez is always in the know and that's what he said. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

i am completely unable to install mra58x no matter how i try to sideload the update from 5.1.1

Tmobile goes back to MRA58K
It confused me.
https://i.imgur.com/vQYNKiL.jpg

I got the ota today, from 28m
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joshtb86 said:
i am completely unable to install mra58x no matter how i try to sideload the update from 5.1.1
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I noticed that your signature says "Nexus 6 rooted". If that is in fact the case, you will not be able to install any OTA. Neither via sideloading nor "over the air". The installer looks at the system file, and if there is ANY change from stock (including being rooted), it will abort the install. I've had it fail, even with a couple of apps frozen.

It looks like the document
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-18109
has been updated. It now list MRA68K as eligible for the OTA to MRA68X. Earlier
it just listed the L* releases.

cam30era said:
I noticed that your signature says "Nexus 6 rooted". If that is in fact the case, you will not be able to install any OTA. Neither via sideloading nor "over the air". The installer looks at the system file, and if there is ANY change from stock (including being rooted), it will abort the install. I've had it fail, even with a couple of apps frozen.
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yeah tried on a clean flash without root, still not luck
i installed mra58k clean rom from the andriod dev page until someone makes an X rom

Wow

And for those with MRA58N currently, there was a hint that TMO would OTA push MRA58X as well.

I am starting to think that was Des speaking before he had the details
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Dougshell said:
I am starting to think that was Des speaking before he had the details
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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Check their support web site
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I see they added it. Well again, sitting here with a nexus device, waiting.
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BigDig said:
Check their support web site
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TMO's update site is questionable in and of itself.