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Hey guys, I'm still wading through Android 101 so sorry if this is a noob question. I really want to go onto a tablet based ROM but I don't want to lose any stuff either (if I even do). Can someone enlighten me?
You will lose touchwiz and everything that requires touchwiz like the "S suite". But there are alternative apps available..
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sujal said:
You will lose touchwiz and everything that requires touchwiz like the "S suite". But there are alternative apps available..
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The stylus still works just as well, but the button doesn´t work, and neither do any of the shortcuts. You can replace all the apps, but you can´t get the note taking ability built into the interface (you can´t simply open a note anywhere, or screenshot and annotate). So if note taking is your main attraction, then you are probably best off sticking to Touchwiz based roms or stock. Otherwise, I think AOSP has much more to offer than touchwiz does.
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
dawids2k8 said:
You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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evaworld said:
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
Regards.
But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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Leechoonhwee said:
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Which kernel do you use for over clocking?
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I have my eye on the Note 4 but I still don't like Touchwiz and prefer to run Android 5 or Cyanogen when it becomes available. I'm afraid I'll lose a lot of the features you'd only get through Touchwiz such as:
1) Fingerprint reader
2) S Pen functionality and apps
3) Use of the health sensors
For those of you who had a Note 3 and ran on custom ROMs did you miss any of the features above?
re: CM/AOSP roms
teknx said:
I have my eye on the Note 4 but I still don't like Touchwiz and prefer to run Android 5 or Cyanogen when it becomes available. I'm afraid I'll lose a lot of the features you'd only get through Touchwiz such as:
1) Fingerprint reader
2) S Pen functionality and apps
3) Use of the health sensors
For those of you who had a Note 3 and ran on custom ROMs did you miss any of the features above?
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You forgot "no wifi calling", "no ir remote not working", "very inferior camera/camcorder",
"most of the smart features don't work" and many other features/options don't work or
inferior compared to Touchwiz roms.
Two of the things you are asking about are embedded in touchwiz framework, and the other one, spen...I wont really call it spen functionality but there are apps you can use with your spen (like any other stylus can). Those same can be used on touchwiz.
Hope that answers your question!
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You forgot "no wifi calling", "no ir remote not working", "very inferior camera/camcorder",
"most of the smart features don't work" and many other features/options don't work or
inferior compared to Touchwiz roms.
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The IR blaster still works, you just need a 3'rd party app. (At least if its anything like my Galaxy S5). I hated Samsung's app for the IR blaster so I downloaded another one. To answer OP's question, its a drivers issue. That being said, there are some GREAT touchwiz based roms for my S5 that have stripped down bloatware and replaced the launcher. You can still get a great experience with touchwiz features, as long as you are willing to do some tweaking. In my experience, the Samsung phones get the most custom roms of any devices.
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You forgot "no wifi calling", "no ir remote not working", "very inferior camera/camcorder",
"most of the smart features don't work" and many other features/options don't work or
inferior compared to Touchwiz roms.
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Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
teknx said:
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
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Whats the sense in getting a samsung if you do not want a touchwiz? just wait for the nexus 6
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Whats the sense in getting a samsung if you do not want a touchwiz? just wait for the nexus 6
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Exactly. I never understood the reasoning for putting that crap CM on a Note device - especially the 4. What's the point? Buy a Nexus or some other inferior device.
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
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What's the point. Either you like TW or you don't. I run Nova Prime on my Note 4 simply because I want more screen real estate. I prefer the underlying features of TW to any other launcher out and would prefer ANYTHING to stock Android or CM.
dkb218 said:
Exactly. I never understood the reasoning for putting that crap CM on a Note device - especially the 4. What's the point? Buy a Nexus or some other inferior device.
What's the point. Either you like TW or you don't. I run Nova Prime on my Note 4 simply because I want more screen real estate. I prefer the underlying features of TW to any other launcher out and would prefer ANYTHING to stock Android or CM.
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Well me personally I just like to have it at times but I KNOW what I'm leaving behind. If you like both why not? Just don't get how people complain about it than get it..I mean TouchWiz lag but.im willing to put in the effort to make it better cause I like what it offer
Aren't there custom TW roms that have little lag? I seen a Note 3 one, that's the only problem with TW in my opinion
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Whats the sense in getting a samsung if you do not want a touchwiz? just wait for the nexus 6
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1. To wait for AOSP and actually use this beastly processor
2. Because we waited for the Nexus 6 and it was never announced, until 1 day after the Note 4 came home with me.
I love your Minions Rom, had it on my note 3 for a long while .
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teknx said:
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I guess the best option to have the best of both worlds is just keep Touchwiz and get a different launcher if I want to change up the home screen.
Problem with that is, it will still be Touchwiz underneath..
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Yes, that's the best idea, just get a good launcher from the play store.
I use the Next Launcher 3D, most people don't want to shell out $15
for a launcher but I did and found it to be excellent.
But there are plenty of free and almost free launchers that you can
download/install from the play store and many of them are very good.
(all of them a lot better than any touchwiz launcher)
Good luck!
I remember the G1. That phone lagged. And by lag I mean press the Contacts icon and 5 seconds later it starts to open.
I wouldn't call what TW does lag. I'd call it at most at half a hiccup.
{This instant gratification society we live in.}
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Well me personally I just like to have it at times but I KNOW what I'm leaving behind. If you like both why not? Just don't get how people complain about it than get it..I mean TouchWiz lag but.im willing to put in the effort to make it better cause I like what it offer
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Perhaps some people will need to setup a "dual boot" system,
one being touchwiz and the other for cm/aosp. LOL
devynbf said:
1. To wait for AOSP and actually use this beastly processor
2. Because we waited for the Nexus 6 and it was never announced, until 1 day after the Note 4 came home with me.
I love your Minions Rom, had it on my note 3 for a long while .
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Lol im just wondering cause it seem like he dont have the note 4 yet, we know the nexus is BEAST, like would make sense for him to get it if he hate samsung that much.
And I'm glad! Do you mean the Gs4 though?
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Perhaps some people will need to setup a "dual boot" system,
one being touchwiz and the other for cm/aosp. LOL
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That would be nice, wont happen anytime soon though loool
dkb218 said:
I remember the G1. That phone lagged. And by lag I mean press the Contacts icon and 5 seconds later it starts to open.
I wouldn't call what TW does lag. I'd call it at most at half a hiccup.
{This instant gratification society we live in.}
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Ahhh the memories of the G1. That was my baby
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Lol im just wondering cause it seem like he dont have the note 4 yet, we know the nexus is BEAST, like would make sense for him to get it if he hate samsung that much.
And I'm glad! Do you mean the Gs4 though?
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That would be nice, wont happen anytime soon though loool
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Yea I guess i do mean s4. Boy it's been a while haha.
What you want is a looks customizable, slimmed down and streamlined stable touchwiz based Rom... plenty will be made with the line up of promised developers. Be patient.
You take away touchwiz, you take away note specific features. They are irreversibly intertwined. Personally I love a debloated and tweaked touchwiz rom... but on the Note 4 I don't even see the need yet on stock touchwiz with bloatware "disabled", if you don't like the looks, get a launcher/customizable home.
Hey everyone!
I'm currently thinking about rooting my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 and installing a custom ROM but I have some reservations because of some features and essential applications that I may lose.
Specifically, the task manager that can force quit all programs is essential to me and the stock camera that utilizes the full potential of the Note 4's camera is absolutely terrific. I don't really care for much of the S Pen features that might go array because I can easily download a third party note taking application. As long as I have the essential Google applications, I don't really need much more.
However, I would really like to know what other applications you can recommend that would make a good replacement for the camera, the task manager, IR blaster, etc.
Any other suggestions to make my experience all that better would be awesome! Thank you so much!
Root doesn't make you lose any apps. Everything you've mentioned still works with root access.
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Root doesn't make you lose any apps. Everything you've mentioned still works with root access.
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You're absolutely right.
Pardon me, I edited the post to include that I want to install a custom ROM, hence the reason for my hesitation.
just use firekat! it is by far the best rom i have ever used on any device...:highfive::good:
I will say flash and see for yourself. Other see something in a rom that is just not so. Flash all and see what you like
BAD ASS NOTE 4
TheGranArcanum said:
You're absolutely right.
Pardon me, I edited the post to include that I want to install a custom ROM, hence the reason for my hesitation.
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If you use a touch wiz based ROM you will not lose anything. Only on an AOSP ROM do you lose those features.
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And might I say firekat has an amazingly optimized camera you should check it out
Okey guys, please dont kill me for this question, I already know that im going straight to hell for this.
Since this week im a (sometimes) happy nexus 6 owner. Before N6 i had S5, S6 and Note 3. Now i cant get used to the stock rom, it is not made for me and im missing some Samsungcrap like making a folder inside app drawer, seeing on what type of data connection im online, having some lag and out of nowhere reboots, be able to modify haptic feedback sentivity, ****-up knox, be able to reset all recent used apps and other ****ty stuff.
Now i like the hardware of the N6 like the bigass display, stereo speakers, cpu und ze fast charging time.
Oh yeah, back to my question aka TL;DR:
Is there, somewhere in the forbidden dark place of the internet, a Samsung rom for the Nexus 6?
Thank you in advance
Edit: I know that there are some apps that can help me out but i dont want to have tons of apps. I just want to know if there is a Samsung rom.
no, and there wont be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKHq-mAEQlU
Genna7 said:
Okey guys, please dont kill me for this question, I already know that im going straight to hell for this.
Since this week im a (sometimes) happy nexus 6 owner. Before N6 i had S5, S6 and Note 3. Now i cant get used to the stock rom, it is not made for me and im missing some Samsungcrap like making a folder inside app drawer, seeing on what type of data connection im online, having some lag and out of nowhere reboots, be able to modify haptic feedback sentivity, ****-up knox, be able to reset all recent used apps and other ****ty stuff.
Now i like the hardware of the N6 like the bigass display, stereo speakers, cpu und ze fast charging time.
Oh yeah, back to my question aka TL;DR:
Is there, somewhere in the forbidden dark place of the internet, a Samsung rom for the Nexus 6?
Thank you in advance
Edit: I know that there are some apps that can help me out but i dont want to have tons of apps. I just want to know if there is a Samsung rom.
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You should be able to find an installable Touchwiz launcher that will work on the Nexus 6. That's about is close as you'll get. Haptic feedback adjustment is a kernel feature AFAIK, I know most of the ones I have used had that available in Kernel Adiuter under misc controls.
Based on what you say you want, a Samsung Galaxy Note is for you. The Nexus 6 is designed for a pure experience --if that isn't what you want, you should sell it and buy what gives you the things you like about the Nexus (the size) with the interface of the Samsung.
With no disrespect, the Samsung experience is the complete antithesis of why people buy a Nexus. As people buy a Nexus to get away from Samsung's TouchWiz, HTC's Sense, and all of these other overlays, you're just not going to find that sort of thing.
Genna7 said:
Okey guys, please dont kill me for this question, I already know that im going straight to hell for this.
Since this week im a (sometimes) happy nexus 6 owner. Before N6 i had S5, S6 and Note 3. Now i cant get used to the stock rom, it is not made for me and im missing some Samsungcrap like making a folder inside app drawer, seeing on what type of data connection im online, having some lag and out of nowhere reboots, be able to modify haptic feedback sentivity, ****-up knox, be able to reset all recent used apps and other ****ty stuff.
Now i like the hardware of the N6 like the bigass display, stereo speakers, cpu und ze fast charging time.
Oh yeah, back to my question aka TL;DR:
Is there, somewhere in the forbidden dark place of the internet, a Samsung rom for the Nexus 6?
Thank you in advance
Edit: I know that there are some apps that can help me out but i dont want to have tons of apps. I just want to know if there is a Samsung rom.
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The settings you said are more or less in cyanogenmod, and you can always use a TW launcher. If it's not enough, then you really should by a Samsung phone.
I was a Samsung user for years, I don't have anything really against TW, I never complained about the lag. When the warranty period was over for my Note 3, I've installed cyanogenmod, and never went back. Now I'm running my own pure AOSP rom, experimenting with ideas for modification.
So if you give it some time, you might even get to love the pure Android feeling. But some people can't and there's no shame in going back. The Note 4 n910F has basically the same hardware, the same resolution and almost as big a screen.
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The settings you said are more or less in cyanogenmod, and you can always use a TW launcher. If it's not enough, then you really should by a Samsung phone.
I was a Samsung user for years, I don't have anything really against TW, I never complained about the lag. When the warranty period was over for my Note 3, I've installed cyanogenmod, and never went back. Now I'm running my own pure AOSP rom, experimenting with ideas for modification.
So if you give it some time, you might even get to love the pure Android feeling. But some people can't and there's no shame in going back. The Note 4 n910F has basically the same hardware, the same resolution and almost as big a screen.
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Thank you for your comment, it makes me think.
I will try to get used to it, otherwise im going for a Note 4.