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Windows on Nook Color

Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor

Raptor said:
Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7

Try pocketcloud from the market... itll let yo remote desktop to a win7 machine and turn your nc into essentially a thin client... pair it with a membership at dynds.org for a solution away from home.
Not exactly what you asked for but its the best youll ever get...
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Win7 Pro has a tablet thing that some say are good (would switch it on but no touch screen for my pc)
As for actually running it Android does well enough, im sure its possible but lack of drivers has stopped me from trying. If anything id try a live linux distro on the SD just thinking it could run it better, but win7 even in tablet settings would probably run like that Archos one, bad.

Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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madfatter said:
not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
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This is just wishful thinking on your part. Even if the NC had the processing power it runs a TI OMAP ARM processor. Windows 7 is only capable of running on x86 and AFAIK there is nothing in the works to recompile win7 for the ARM platform.
Windows Phone 7 (who knows) could one day be ported to run on the NC hardware.
Your best bet may be to use VNC or something similar to get access to a windows 7 remote desktop environment.

madfatter said:
not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
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Let me clarify:
- No holy war comments
- AND apparently...
- No unnecessary insults
I posted the comment in "this section" (Nook Color "THEMES" and Apps) for the reason of a good fully emulated Windows 7 theme would suffice.
But YES I do wish a "hacked" version of Windows 7 could be developed. I did not ask for Win7 Ultimate, or Enerprise but Win7.
If we took the assumption that only a full unmodifed version of any OS could be run on these devices then I think we would all just be reading eBooks on them from B&N. Win7 just like ANY OS can be stripped down in many ways, even if basic stripping down was not sufficient, it would be a start. From there things can be modifed further.
So to clarify:
- YES I want Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate with BlueTooth, WiFi, USB, SDHC, Cell Stack, Fingerprint reader, Optical Scanner, camera (forward and rear facing) BlueRay DVD ROM/Writer, IR, and whatever else anyone has ever thought of that can be put into a high powered Windows workstation.
Short of that I would be willing to accept any of the following in the order listed from top down:
- Any version of Win7
- WinMo 6.5x
- WP7 (if someone can make it do something other than the standard WP7) (ie: remove the iPhone'ish lockdown limitations and run WinMo apps)
- Win7 themes that work on the rooted Nook Colors
- WP7 theme (as a theme would not come with the limitations of WP7 itself)
- WinMo 6.5x theme
- NT4 theme
- NT 3.51 theme
- OK that is as low as I am willing to go, although I would not mind having CMD on the Win7 version with the internal commands... lol
Read the above with a certain amount of sarcasim and reality, Win7 ROX so as close as my Nook Color tablet can get to it would make me happy (as well as a few others as well I am sure)!
Raptor

@ Jason - Thanks, I do have a Remote control client accessing my static IP devices.
Unfortunately we are just not there yet with the passthrough of the touch commands as I wouldlike it to be, and beyond that I was looking for a Win7 interface even when not on WiFi. I just like the standard commands, interfaces, etc... that I am familiar with over the Android OS. Not to knock it but it's not my prefered GUI.
But you are right, that does suffice at this time.
Raptor

Maybe someone can get Windows 95 up and running

dascud said:
This is just wishful thinking on your part. ....... AFAIK there is nothing in the works to recompile win7 for the ARM platform.
Windows Phone 7 (who knows) could one day be ported to run on the NC hardware.
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Wishful thinking is why I finally have skinny tablet computer in my haands only (insert sarcaism here) 42 years after seeing James T Kirk with one.
Win7 ARM platform... oh the rumors are already started. Balmer is supposed to be making an announcement of this @ CES 2011. Am I expecting it to be released before the Nook Color becomes my primary dust pan... probably not, but I am eagerly waiting onthenews just the same.
WP7 on the Nook Color; That would be nice once it has copy/paste and the other 1,400 features that WinMo 6.5x had that were removed or "not included" in the new WP7 OS (sorry, sore subject).
Raptor

wvcachi said:
Maybe someone can get Windows 95 up and running
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Wahoooo........ Now were talking...

In all seriousness... what about Windows CE?
Or even xp, the nook has good enough specs for that, i mean come on, it only needs a 233mhz cpu and only 128 meg of ram?
Basically, id love to play age of mythology on this thing ;D
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urbanengine1 said:
In all seriousness... what about Windows CE?
Or even xp, the nook has good enough specs for that, i mean come on, it only needs a 233mhz cpu and only 128 meg of ram?
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Maybe if we all ask Bill Gates real nice he will find it in his heart to release the source for WinXP so that XDA developers can port it for ARM architecture. What with this being Xmas and all.
I am an optimist but also a realist. Chances of getting WinXP to run natively on the Nook Color or any other ARM tablet are next to none.
Why will Microsoft take it upon themselves to port an unsupported 2 generations old OS to the ARM platform. IMO it will be a cold day in Hell before Microsoft releases the source for WinXP.
If you need a tablet running Windows maybe you are better off with the Archos 9 https://store.archos.com/archos-tablet-p-96.html or the new Dell Duo or the HP slate.

Look i dont know much about such things but surely CE is possible?
got this from arm.com:
"Hi, There
Microsoft itself makes tools for developing with Windows CE running on an ARM processor. If you go to the ARM Connected Community page for Microsoft Windows CE:
http://www.arm.com/community/display_compa...3&display=3
and scroll down to the contact information, you'll find a link to Microsoft's resources for embedded developers:
http://www.microsoft...ndows/embedded/
You should find what you need there."
OR BETTER THAN CE: linux and wine
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CE wouldn't be too bad.
You should check out Windows Embedded Compact 7 which uses a lot of the same underlying software as Windows Phone 7 but has a traditional windows gui but can be overlaid with whatever you want.

Man. As soon as someone has a complete backup so we can flash this thing back to default if something goes wrong. Im gonna windows this thing to death >.
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I was thinking Windows 3.1 would be perfect.
OTH, I have seen tablets out there that run windows 7 so it's definitely not unheard of.
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-Windows-Starter-Tablet-Black/dp/tags-on-product/B002V3C4F8

dascud said:
If you need a tablet running Windows maybe you are better off with the Archos 9 https://store.archos.com/archos-tablet-p-96.html or the new Dell Duo or the HP slate.
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Actually I will probably be getting a Dell Duo, but it's not as thin and heavier then the Nook Color as well as the price difference. I bought this on a wim as I bought 2 Nooks (non coler versions) for family members and it was just too darn cheap to pass up on. Needless to say I was thrilled when I checked and xda-developers had a section on Nook Color hacks...
I agree on the XP comments, but CE does support ARM (as in Windows Mobile (take your pick on the version)). I would like to see a WinMo 6.5x OS running on the Nook Color.
Raptor

new question...
has anyone succesfully gotten a full OS to boot from an sd card?
if so i might try mucking around with CE and get it installed on an sd...
if not i wont do it because i REALLY dont want to stuff up my color.
Now... does anyone know of any working drivers ;D

Raptor said:
So to clarify:
- YES I want Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate with BlueTooth, WiFi, USB, SDHC, Cell Stack, Fingerprint reader, Optical Scanner, camera (forward and rear facing) BlueRay DVD ROM/Writer, IR, and whatever else anyone has ever thought of that can be put into a high powered Windows workstation.
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I forgot GPS, 64bit dual proc quad core with 32 GB of RAM and a compass in the stock!

Raptor said:
I forgot GPS, 64bit dual proc quad core with 32 GB of RAM and a compass in the stock!
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you will brick your nook... ok closest i could come up with..

[Q] 32-bit vs 64-bit

I bought 4gb of ram today for my old Toshiba with T2050 processor. From what I've read this appears to be a 32-bit processor. Here are the specs on this machine. - http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...=&moid=1468771
Am I just SOL on the extra gigabyte of ram that 32-bit windows can't see? Will xp 64-bit even run on this machine? What about Linux 64-bit?
It had 1gb of ram before and now it has 4gb but even if it only sees 3gb this is still a huge improvement.
I'm afraid if I get frustrated enough I'll probably end up at Best Buy with my credit card burning a hole in my pocket.

That processor is only 32bit. Not sure what would happen if you installed a 64bit OS, but my guess is it would be slower than with the 1gb of ram. And why XP 64-bit? Most of the programs wont even run on it. And what kind of ram is it? If it's DDR2 then you can probably sell it for about the same price that you bought it for when you get a new PC.

jaszek said:
That processor is only 32bit. Not sure what would happen if you installed a 64bit OS, but my guess is it would be slower than with the 1gb of ram. And why XP 64-bit? Most of the programs wont even run on it. And what kind of ram is it? If it's DDR2 then you can probably sell it for about the same price that you bought it for when you get a new PC.
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Yeah it's pc5300, ddr2. I just want to make the most out of this old-ass machine.
What Linux distro does everyone recommend? I did a little looking into it about a month ago and thoroughly confused myself.

If you never used linux then Ubuntu, Maybe you can try mint.

jaszek said:
If you never used linux then Ubuntu, Maybe you can try mint.
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I played with Wubi and couldn't figure out how to drop files on the desktop, although it would let me put shortcuts to programs.
That online quiz recommended either OpenSUSE or Mint.

I' d also recommend ubuntu, and you might want to install Gnome as a ui
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Paramet3r said:
I' d also recommend ubuntu, and you might want to install Gnome as a ui
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.

Gnome-Shell that is.
Code:
sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
I recommend everyone that's using Ubuntu to check out Webupd8. Plenty of tips, tweaks and guides for Ubuntu/Gnome.

The processor is x86, so a x64 OS won't boot on it, nor will the installation disc
Linux is a lot more better than windows, faster too
I'ld suggest trying out Ubuntu once, you'll feel the difference

cdesai said:
The processor is x86, so a x64 OS won't boot on it, nor will the installation disc
Linux is a lot more better than windows, faster too
I'ld suggest trying out Ubuntu once, you'll feel the difference
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Thanks. I find myself very drawn toward it, but worry about day to day compatibility. Do programs like SOC, LG Updater, etc, work on Linux? Am I forced to keep Windows on another partition just in case?

Phateless said:
Thanks. I find myself very drawn toward it, but worry about day to day compatibility. Do programs like SOC, LG Updater, etc, work on Linux? Am I forced to keep Windows on another partition just in case?
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Yes, unfortunately some don't, and that's why dual boot is a better option (games too)

[Q] ideal Linux computer

I need your guys opinions on the ideal Linux computer for building roms and stuff.
Maximum: $500
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lreyes15 said:
I need your guys opinions on the ideal Linux computer for building roms and stuff.
Maximum: $500
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Linux supports a lot of hardware and is very fast even on older processors
You can easily get a decent computer with this amount
You should buy a laptop or computer without OS as it costs cheaper and then you can install Linux over it
You can easily get a laptop with Core i3 processor in this amount
Which Linux are you planning to use: Ubuntu, Cent OS, Suse, Red Hat or Fedora or any other variant?
try searching google or visit few shops to get more details on computers at this price

vivek_bhoj said:
Linux supports a lot of hardware and is very fast even on older processors
You can easily get a decent computer with this amount
You should buy a laptop or computer without OS as it costs cheaper and then you can install Linux over it
You can easily get a laptop with Core i3 processor in this amount
Which Linux are you planning to use: Ubuntu, Cent OS, Suse, Red Hat or Fedora or any other variant?
try searching google or visit few shops to get more details on computers at this price
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Ubentu is a common one so I guess that one
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lreyes15 said:
Ubentu is a common one so I guess that one
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But I'd want a pure Linux only computer I have a windows vista but its a family computer for the family so I'm not gonna install all this stuff
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you can run Linux on every Computer. Ubuntu is fine, Unity is now sstable.
If you want to have dualboot with with windows, you have to make partitions on disk.
1. windows partition
2. Linux / (rooot) partition, make it about 20GiB
3. Linux /swap partition, size of your RAM
4. Optionaly /home, usefull if ou wanna reinstall distro and keep desktop, settings of most app etc untouched.
1st install windows then linux

the most versatile Linux operating system
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPqUuYbVR8

Please see this thread for such questions: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**. Closed.

Windows OS?

If the phone is Intel based, is it possible to run Windows on it - even if its a cut down version?

Windows desktop? Don't think so. Wouldn't scale right on the 4:3" screen.
Windows Phone? Maybe. But it would take a lot of time, time which I think should be invested into Android ROM baking and stuff.

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agree.

If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.

kHron0S said:
If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
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I think Intel have changed quite a lot within the x86 based architecture to be running fan-less and at that level of battery consumption.
Porting a x86 PC OS would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack and that's just getting it booting.
As for windows phone it has more chance of getting ported to any other android phone as it runs on ARM.
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Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.

i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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Robbilie said:
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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As in the stock bootloader won't let you boot from whatever you need to boot from? I figured with an unlocked bootloader, there wouldn't be any issues on that front.

then tell me how to make it boot from my sd card xD

Oh, I have no idea. I just thought those problems would be over. I guess the bootloader just doesn't support that function.

DKSE said:
Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
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That phone is of no help since it uses wrong chip. It uses the Intel atom z530 made in 2008 long before Intel remodeled them for mobiles.
RAZR I uses a atom (soc) completely different.
As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
As for booting from sdcard if it doesn't support it then there's nothing we can do to the bootloader to get that to work.
We could boot to nand then mount sdcard partition partitions other phones have ran android from sdcard.
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dethrat said:
As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
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I'd be more than happy to help sponsor some development to have the RAZR i running Windows 8 Pro not Windows 8 phone.
I was quote about $2000 for a ITG xpPhone 2 a while ago, with the RAZR i being about $500 unlocked with a newer chipset and a thinner device, it would be really nice to have instead. I have asked for another quote for the ITG xpPhone 2 to see if the price has come down at all.
I'd didn't buy it yet as I thought with Windows 8 being released, there might be a bit more interest in getting it to run on Intel Medfield phones.
I really want a Windows 8 Pro device that I can have in my pocket.

Win 3.1 through aDosBox ?
Another way could be to use aDosBox ?
As for the Asus transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079332
Does the Razri version remove the x86 emulation layer ?
http://www.freeware4android.net/motorola-razr-i-xt890-device-2815/adosbox-get-24103.html
It should provide a faster version than the current ARM-based Android version.

We were talking about the real Windows 8/Windows Phone 8, not 3.1 through emulation.

Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.

kamuikun said:
Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
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The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...

Vistaus said:
The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
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Actually I'm not specifically interested in the Razr i, just wanted to know if it was possible to run desktop windows in x86 phones, my real target is the upcoming Lenovo K900, which have killer specs that should be good enough for a desktop windows 8.
I though that being x86 theses phones can install anything x86, it is not that simple it seems, too bad -.-

running Windows 8 Firmware
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU

Waruna said:
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
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Seems fishy. The lockscreen was an Android lockscreen, and the error popup also looked like an Android popup.
I honestly think he was just using something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XwIeWfvcZ_o#!

It seems that the ASUS tablet 810 has a medfield SoC and runs windows 8, so it's almost certainly within the capabilities of the hardware. The question is whether or not we can get the bootloader to play nice or maybe stick a custom bootloader on it.

Single Board Computer that's low power, runs Linux and secure - are there any out there?

Someone on Freenode suggested MikroTik last time I asked I want to use it for DNS/EMail and such/Dovecot/Postfix. RPi has CPU bugs hence the Q.
[while you are at it, any recommendations for a decent/secure/command-line-reversible firmware modem/DSL perhaps or something for the new RelianceJio towers that are sprouting all over.
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veekm said:
Someone on Freenode suggested MikroTik last time I asked I want to use it for DNS/EMail and such/Dovecot/Postfix. RPi has CPU bugs hence the Q.
[while you are at it, any recommendations for a decent/secure/command-line-reversible firmware modem/DSL perhaps or something for the new RelianceJio towers that are sprouting all over.
New user - my 1st Q - I kind of post in Reddit's r/indianripoff
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veekm said:
Someone on Freenode suggested MikroTik last time I asked I want to use it for DNS/EMail and such/Dovecot/Postfix. RPi has CPU bugs hence the Q.
[while you are at it, any recommendations for a decent/secure/command-line-reversible firmware modem/DSL perhaps or something for the new RelianceJio towers that are sprouting all over.
New user - my 1st Q - I kind of post in Reddit's r/indianripoff
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Yes there's the raspberry pi and many different kinds that will run linux with the 32bit and even 64 bit. Using 1-4 gigs of RAM to power the graphics on linux. Linux isn't tolling like windows is and the raspberry pi is perfect. Watch Network Chuck on youtube. Perfect place to start.

Jonharder89 said:
Yes there's the raspberry pi and many different kinds that will run linux with the 32bit and even 64 bit. Using 1-4 gigs of RAM to power the graphics on linux. Linux isn't tolling like windows is and the raspberry pi is perfect. Watch Network Chuck on youtube. Perfect place to start.
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