[Q] Should one want to turn on VoLTE on VZ? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Should one want to turn on VoLTE on VZ? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok,
We all know that turning on Advanced Calling 1.0 on your account is free, includes HD voice to other callers that are similarly enabled, and most of all - it gives us back voice and data at the same time.
But are there negatives to go with the positives?
I've scanned the threads and wanted to consolidate this here.
I've heard if you are on adv calling and move out / drop off 4G your call may get lost. I haven't heard how one makes a call, or if it will make a call if out of a 4G area or on wifi out of a 4G area and you try to place a call.
So, that said, what are the experiences from our vast userbase here?
Has turning it on caused any issue for you? either with making/receiving calls, data use, or even other issues with the N6 once you enabled it? (I'm stock right now, what about ROM's? )
(for purposes of streamlining this thread, the conditions are that you got the phone from Verizon, or have it established on Verizon and have been able to enable the option)

I turn on day 1 but I don't have anyone to call that has that option so nothing really changed for me I don't find my coverage any better or worse. I do notice I have voice and data now (at the same time I mean)
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

VZW Volte
When I go to Verizon website to select volte in my plan a pop up says 1 or more of my other selections i already have is not compatible with volte and must be unselected to get volte. It is saying Ringback Tones needs to be unselected.
Has anyone else experienced this?

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Verizon range extender problems

Anybody else on Verizon using a Verizon brand extender? A search found one other old thread but no definitive fix. The one proposed fix was to set the phone to 1x speed to force it out of hunting for towers outside and hope that 5.1 fixed the problem. I just got my phone from Verizon, it came out of the box with 5.1, so it would seem they didn't fix it. And I can't seem to find how to set it to 1x. Only from global to LTE. I'm dropping calls, having problems with texts, and Verizon support admitted it doesn't seem that my calls are going through the extender. They said the 6 should be perfectly capable of utilizing this extender. My note 3 worked perfect on it, and as far as I know the wife's note 4 does as well. I get the beep like it's calling through it, just not the signal. And this phone doesn't have a separate icon to show if it's connected, intermittent, or never recognizing it. Is this a known issue and I just didn't search properly? Running 5.1 LMY47E, bone stock. I warrantied the phone, same thing. So this thing is literally about an hour out of the box, no mods. Looking forward to rooting and running some roms but I'd like to know I've got any issues ironed out before hand. That way I'll know any future issues are rom related, not hardware
TIA

Unfortunately there is no fix unless Verizon decides to somehow upgrade the software/firmware of the extender. I'm surprised that Verizon tech support didn't inform you that the extender is not capable of utilizing 4G or enhanced network capability and can only function with 3G or less. I spent a bit of time on the phone with tech support and requested a problem ticket be raised to Verizon engineers to get a definitive answer -their response was that the extender can not do 4G but only 3G. The way I was able to get my Nexus 6 to successfully connect was to turn the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" off and then it was able to connect. This is not a nexus 6 issue only but from what I've seen is any phone that has that enhanced 4G setting - my wife's Iphone 6 is also unable to use the extender unless that phone capability to use 4G/LTE is turned off. Surprised you even got the beep as never of our phones get that connection beep unless the 4G/Enhanced switch is off.
I'm surprised (maybe not) that Verizon continues to sell the same Network Extender even though it no longer works with the new network capability or with phones that use that technology. Also brought that up with them during my call but of course that wasn't addressed. I also got no information as to any plans to upgrade the extender firmware but I'm assuming the lack of info speaks loudly.
Again one can never be assured of whether the information they provided me is accurate or no so if you find out differently please post back.
Also, my Nexus 6 is rooted and I have tried numerous ROMs and the ROM makes no difference so that isn't going to fix the issue.
Hopes this helps a bit.

chameo53 said:
Unfortunately there is no fix unless Verizon decides to somehow upgrade the software/firmware of the extender....
Again one can never be assured of whether the information they provided me is accurate or no so if you find out differently please post back.
Also, my Nexus 6 is rooted and I have tried numerous ROMs and the ROM makes no difference so that isn't going to fix the issue.
Hopes this helps a bit.
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This helps a ton, thanks! I've always known that the extender didn't support anything above 3g, but it's never been an issue since my router took care of data and 3g was plenty for calls and texts. But I was thinking it had something to do with this... I haven't researched any of this new stuff about xlte or whatever it is but I know it seems the phones are changing to support some mods to the network. I haven't paid attention because my town is usually the last to receive this sort of technology. Big cities were going to 4g soon after we upgraded to 3g...
Can you tell me if the pic below is the menu that you used? I can't find any setting anywhere else that specifically says 3g, to try to force it into a mode that the extender understand.

you can dial #48 and the phone will tell you if you are under network extender coverage

The setting that needs to be disabled is on the same screen where you set the preferred network type (actually under the one you are displaying). It should be the next setting following the Preferred network type. It actually has a slider to turn on or off. Now, I'm not running stock but I believe it should be the same or very similar on stock.
Not on my phone or i'd try to include a screenshot. Hope this helps.
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three west said:
you can dial #48 and the phone will tell you if you are under network extender coverage
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that detail. The Verizon tech had me do this. It actually told me I was connecting through the extender. And the call seemed relatively clear. But I could hang up and immediately dial my voicemail or some other number, get the beep from connecting through the extender, but the call would be spotty and cutting out badly. And the tech was confused by this because it wasn't showing on his system that I was connecting through the extender even when the #48 said I was. Strange things going on with this...
chameo53 said:
The setting that needs to be disabled is on the same screen where you set the preferred network type (actually under the one you are displaying). It should be the next setting following the Preferred network type. It actually has a slider to turn on or off. Now, I'm not running stock but I believe it should be the same or very similar on stock.
Not on my phone or i'd try to include a screenshot. Hope this helps.
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I'm not typing on my phone either, to include a screenshot. But I'm looking at it. The option directly under Preferred network type (which I have changed back to the default Global), is System Select. The subtext under that says "Change the CDMA roaming mode". And within the menu, the two options are "Home only" and "Automatic", of which Automatic is the default. Is this what I'm looking for?

Do you have Advanced Calling activated on you phone? Not sure if that is the issue or not but on your Verizon Wireless account you should see Advanced Calling (I believe that is what it is called) under "Manage Products. & Aps" - you should have the option to add it to your account. It is a free service but as I understand it you need to include it on your account for the phone to use Volte and it might not show up in settings if it is not an active service on the phone. Again, I'm only guessing here since I'm not on stock but I do believe I've had the option since I got the phone and I added HD calling right after I completed the pre-order.

chameo53 said:
Do you have Advanced Calling activated on you phone? Not sure if that is the issue or not but on your Verizon Wireless account you should see Advanced Calling (I believe that is what it is called) under "Manage Products. & Aps" - you should have the option to add it to your account. It is a free service but as I understand it you need to include it on your account for the phone to use Volte and it might not show up in settings if it is not an active service on the phone. Again, I'm only guessing here since I'm not on stock but I do believe I've had the option since I got the phone and I added HD calling right after I completed the pre-order.
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I will log on in a bit and look. So are you suggesting that I enable it, or disable it? Is it believed that HAVING this feature is what is killing the link to the extender? Sorry for the dumb questions. Like I said, I've never had to look into the new tower technology before because I don't anticipate getting it in my area. I never thought about it still affecting my service anyway, even though we weren't getting it... figures.

For me to use my extender the 4G enhanced/LTE needs to be disabled. What I don't know is whether that setting shows up on the phone if the Advanced Calling isn't active on the account. If it doesn't show up there might be no way to disable it. I know it sounds somewhat illogical but again
I'm guessing to some extent given that I have it on mine and I really think it has been there from the start.
Sorry I can't be definite with it.

[Q] Advanced wifi calling T-Mobile M9

I have been told that the M9 does not support advanced wifi calling. I'm not sure about my terminology, but what I mean is that it cannot hand a wifi call off to the LTE/HSPA network.
However I have just finished demonstrating that it does hand off without dropping the call, and to the HSPA network. I had noticed this behavior the other day, but in a discussion in an article on fiercewireless, i was told this is technically impossible.
My M9 is set to wifi calling, wifi preferred, and when I make the call in the driveway, the dialer says "wifi call", the call connects and the phone icon in the statusbar is green, and the phone beeps at me with a message that I'm near the edge of the wifi calling area and the call may drop. I drive away, the call never drops, the beeping/message stop, and the green phone icon in the statusbar becomes white. And I'm connected to "4G", not 4G LTE.

Who told you it didn't support it?
I myself, don't like the feature. Especially when I have little to no service, it'll constantly be searching for service(draining my battery) when I'm connected with WiFi calling.
Hoping it'll be able to be disabled in custom ROMs.

I think the screen name was Fabian and it was in the discussion about Sprint offering the international data like T-Mobile. He seems to be knowledgeable and was adamant that this is not possible. I think he said it's only possible on the iPhone 6. Aside from that, I myself thought it was impossible for a WiFi to hspa handoff, yet this is what I'm seeing.

Hopefully they make it official since it does work

I'm pretty sure I read that this was a new feature. . . I'll look for the source I read this from.
Sent From My HTC One (M8)

It's a new feature with the S810.
Wish it'd give you the option...

just wondering
Have u guys seen the aggressive Wi-Fi to cellular handover setting in developer settings?
not sure what to think I never use Wi-Fi call just thought I'd share. Because it might help those that have calls dropped. Worth a shot to check the box and try.

T-Mobile (re)enabled wifi/cell handoff with Uncarrier 8 several months ago. A decent LTE connection is required for the handoff but nearly every LTE handset can do so (coming to the Nexus 6 Real Soon Now.)
The Sprint person is incorrect, but a their wifi calling implementation is, quite frankly, bizarre, so I'm not surprised at their being clueless over T-Mobile's.
Nothing unique about the HTC One m9's wifi calling except it being on a really great handset.

Cannot get wifi calling working on LYZ28E

I thought I had wifi calling working, but now I suspect it isn't. I don't have the indicators others have such as the quick tile or the dialer indicating it is a wifi call. I checked the setting and see that I have wifi calling (wifi preferred) enabled and the cellular network type is IWLAN in the SIM status.
I thought it might be because of Google Voice so I turned that off. I ensured that I have my E911 address set. I had "wifi calling" on my account from awhile back and assumed that was necessary. I just removed it to troubleshoot the issue below and now cannot get it back. Not sure if others have that.
Here is the logcat error message:
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D/PollingManager( 4414): phone state: 0 0 voice home data home T-Mobile T-Mobile 310260 T-Mobile T-Mobile 310260 LTE IWLAN CSS not supported -1 -1 RoamInd=-1 DefRoamInd=-1 EmergOnly=false
I have stock LYZ28E with MDM9625_10649.09.05.14R radio.

Same here. If I try to place a call with WiFi calling enabled the call ends immediately. There's no indication that it's using WiFi calling other than the call ending immediately.

I spent a good bit of time on the phone with a very helpful tech at T-Mobile trying to troubleshoot this. I didn't have the feature enabled on my account so she fixed that and told me it could take a few hours to show up. Still not working yet, but she did mention she was going to start (or add) my number to an internal thread so they could track. I'd encourage everyone having issues to call and make sure you get to the actual tech folks so they have an accurate accounting of the problem. At this point I'm assuming it's a bug but we'll see...
Edit: Rebooted and have wifi calling enabled, was able to make a call and my Google voice number showed up on the other end. In my case it seems the problem was that I didn't have the feature enabled in T-Mobile's system.

It wasn't working at all for me. I even flashed back to encrypted and unrooted and used the factory image. Never saw "WiFi calling" even though it was enabled. Eventually I just went back to Chroma. He said he has T-Mobile WiFi Calling working and it'll be in his next build.
Sent from my CHROMA & hells-Core powered Nexus 6

TheMattS said:
I spent a good bit of time on the phone with a very helpful tech at T-Mobile trying to troubleshoot this. I didn't have the feature enabled on my account so she fixed that and told me it could take a few hours to show up. Still not working yet, but she did mention she was going to start (or add) my number to an internal thread so they could track. I'd encourage everyone having issues to call and make sure you get to the actual tech folks so they have an accurate accounting of the problem. At this point I'm assuming it's a bug but we'll see...
Edit: Rebooted and have wifi calling enabled, was able to make a call and my Google voice number showed up on the other end. In my case it seems the problem was that I didn't have the feature enabled in T-Mobile's system.
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Can you clarify what you mean about your GV number showing up on the other end? GV and T-Mobile WiFi calling are 2 completely different things.

tealio said:
Can you clarify what you mean about your GV number showing up on the other end? GV and T-Mobile WiFi calling are 2 completely different things.
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Was clarifying the two do work together as they should, just to rule it out as a potential part of the problem.
My phone is still showing wifi calling as active so the change on T-Mobile's side seems to have fixed things for me.

I'm having issues with WiFi calling as well. Haven't been able to get it to work and bootloader, radio and baseband are all updated and on E ROM. No matter what i do it doesn't work.

I've made a few calls now since T-Mobile updated my account, it's working well on both my home and work wifi networks.

Moble Data Not Available - disable popup?

Whenever I make a phone call, the phone (Stock, rooted) pops up a warning saying that "Mobile Data Not Available" and "Mobile data is unavailable while on this call. Apps like email, Internet and social networking will work if you connect to Wi-Fi."
I'm fully aware of the limitations on the phone hardware, and I don't need to be reminded of it every single time... and then have to click a stupid button to make it go away, particularly when I am driving. Is there a way to disable this stupid popup? I can certainly get into system files (since I'm rooted)... just need to know what to do.
Please keep in mind, this is different from the warning some users have complained about which pops up a similar warning when they disable mobile data... this is a different popup that happens with phone calls.
Thanks in advance!

so you don't have VoLTE?

ChazzMatt said:
so you don't have VoLTE?
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Never turned it on because coverage is spotty at my house. I wish it would be VoWIFI, then I'd be all over it... I assume it doesn't work that way, correct?

It's warning you the phone is dropping down to CDMA for a phone call, which can't handle data and voice simultaneously.
VoLTE can. So, if it's giving you that warning, you are probably on stock ROM?
If you used VoLTE, it would not give you that warning.
I'm also assuming custom ROMs don't have that warning, but I'm not sure -- since I don't use Verizon and I always have simultaneous data/voice.

schwinn8 said:
Never turned it on because coverage is spotty at my house. I wish it would be VoWIFI, then I'd be all over it... I assume it doesn't work that way, correct?
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Correct. If you want to make VoIP calls with WiFi, your best bet is downloading the google hangouts dialer. You'll be able to make calls over wifi free to US numbers, and you can even make it so it will show up as your number on their caller ID. The only drawback is that you can't receive calls over WiFi using this app.
But to answer your question, just turn on advanced calling. Even if it doesn't work due to your lack of signal, it shouldn't hurt anything, and it will get rid of that message.

Yeah, I know what the warning is about., I just don't need to hear about it every time I make a call... so I wanted to disable the popup. I figure if the ROM cookers have seen it, they can point me to where it is and I can remove it.
My concern with adding Advanced Calling is that, as I've heard, it's not able to transfer off VoLTE into a regular calling mode. In other words, if you're on VoLTE, you have to stay on it or else you'll lose the call... is this no longer true? If so, then I'd consider turning it on... but I can't afford to drop calls during a drive (I'm now working in sales, after all!)
Related: I saw a some info about Wifi calling, which is available on some newer phones... I know VZ doesn't let us do this on our phones (for whatever reason) but I wonder if we can enable this feature on our phones via a custom ROM or some manually added modules?

schwinn8 said:
Yeah, I know what the warning is about., I just don't need to hear about it every time I make a call... so I wanted to disable the popup. I figure if the ROM cookers have seen it, they can point me to where it is and I can remove it.
My concern with adding Advanced Calling is that, as I've heard, it's not able to transfer off VoLTE into a regular calling mode. In other words, if you're on VoLTE, you have to stay on it or else you'll lose the call... is this no longer true? If so, then I'd consider turning it on... but I can't afford to drop calls during a drive (I'm now working in sales, after all!)
Related: I saw a some info about Wifi calling, which is available on some newer phones... I know VZ doesn't let us do this on our phones (for whatever reason) but I wonder if we can enable this feature on our phones via a custom ROM or some manually added modules?
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Unlikely since we haven't even figured out how to get VoLTE onto custom ROMs. Plus, Wi-Fi Calling wouldn't be as easy as enabling something. Even if we could somehow enable it, Verizon would need to allow it on their side.

iiWoodstocK said:
Unlikely since we haven't even figured out how to get VoLTE onto custom ROMs. Plus, Wi-Fi Calling wouldn't be as easy as enabling something. Even if we could somehow enable it, Verizon would need to allow it on their side.
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This is also why I can't Wi-Fi calling. AT&T has it for premium AT&T branded phones (mine is not) and for their postpaid/contract customers (I am on AT&T in-house prepaid GoPhone). So, only AT&T can give me Wi-Fi calling, not a custom ROM.

USA Carrier Test[Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Google Fi]

This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.

ZyroSS said:
This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.
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Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?

tech_head said:
Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?
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Yes, didn't work

So this is all true for the international version, but not for the Tencent edition. Tencent version only supports bands 1-4 and pretty much nothing else. Those are the old school bands for AT&T and TMobile, so signal is ok but not great. Indoors TMobile is pretty bad with the Tencent phone, whereas I get fantastic signal with my OnePlus 7 pro in the same places on TMobile.
Damn shame, other than that the rog2 is better in every way and I'm going to miss it dearly but I've got a 1 year old and not having a cell signal at home or work is not an option.

cyagl643 said:
Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.

Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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And what happens when the gsm(3g) gets turned off in beginning of 2020? Asus seriously f'd up not allowing volte.

homerunbm33 said:
So I have att and really would like to get this phone but concerned about any possible issues(for example no band 14 and 30) . Did you have any issues with service with att? I'm considering the rog, op7t or pixel 4. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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No, I had no real issues with AT&T, it's the reason I'm getting my 2nd sim to be an MVNO for this phone. 1 Carrier only AT&T is simply the best overall for this phone. If we say Verizon is 100% 4G LTE strength/reliabililty, then AT&T is like 90%, while AT&T is 60%. This is of course in more rural areas. In the city it matters not if you have AT&T or T-Mobile...

cyagl643 said:
The Verizon idea sounds like a great workaround because you can also download the My Messages app at the play store and it works the same as the website. The only downside, and correct me if Im wrong would be when calling people they would see your google number and not your real cell number. Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...

Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.
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Technically speaking 911 SHOULD work, but I'm not about to get in trouble trying that one out LOL. I have a backup emergency cell phone line for those emergencies since I also, cannot stand not being able to have that option even if the chances are slim. I am also keeping Verizon because it simply has the strongest 4G signal of the USA carriers that I tested, however AT&T isn't too far behind it's definitely good, just not great. AT&T gets calls and texts by default too so theres that as well lol

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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I may consider this as well. I'll likely run it Verizon only with the work around and see how it goes before adding a second SIM.
As for 911, I think I may be able to contact a local 911 operator and see what info I can glean from them.
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I did find this, which includes some info both on how 911 works with un-activated phones, and how to make a test call.
https://www.911.gov/frequently_asked_questions.html

ZyroSS said:
I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...
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I mean I tried the app on the current phone I have with wifi calling off and airplane mode on, and had someone text me and I got it.

Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you

Drkstover said:
Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you
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I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.

AVJ1221 said:
I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.
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What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...

ram4ufriends said:
What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...
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Try restarting your phone. Sometimes GV gets buggy for some unknown reason. I also have Hangouts and Hangouts dialer downloaded so Google assistant can make calls when I ask. I believe GV can dial out through dialer as well.
And make sure to allow GV and any other calling app you're using to auto start in your phone settings.

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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How is Good2go working for you?
Any problems in calls/texts?
Thanks.

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