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WiFi Calling - Tmobile

I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?

raazman said:
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.

Ingenium13 said:
Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Alright, that sounds pretty simple. Thanks!

On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.

charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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I am on sprint and will get my N6 when it come out. I'm hoping they do the same for sprint as well for WiFi calling support. I know that on sprint they don't count against ur minutes or text... And sprint has unlimited LTE ...
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charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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Why don't you use hangouts to call?

raazman said:
Why don't you use hangouts to call?
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.

Sprint has WiFi calling on some models already also so it's probably close to the same for all

charesa39 said:
I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?

joshua.justice said:
Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.

charesa39 said:
Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
Edit: https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en

raazman said:
It's free in the USA to call to landline.
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WHAT?!?!?! I feel like my whole life has been a lie!!! Haha! But in all seriousness, I thought that was only for people with Google Voice numbers. But after doing a quick Google search, it looks like you only need a GV number to RECEIVE said calls. Wow. I feel so dumb right about now. Thanks for enlightening me, guys!

[Q] Should one want to turn on VoLTE on VZ?

Ok,
We all know that turning on Advanced Calling 1.0 on your account is free, includes HD voice to other callers that are similarly enabled, and most of all - it gives us back voice and data at the same time.
But are there negatives to go with the positives?
I've scanned the threads and wanted to consolidate this here.
I've heard if you are on adv calling and move out / drop off 4G your call may get lost. I haven't heard how one makes a call, or if it will make a call if out of a 4G area or on wifi out of a 4G area and you try to place a call.
So, that said, what are the experiences from our vast userbase here?
Has turning it on caused any issue for you? either with making/receiving calls, data use, or even other issues with the N6 once you enabled it? (I'm stock right now, what about ROM's? )
(for purposes of streamlining this thread, the conditions are that you got the phone from Verizon, or have it established on Verizon and have been able to enable the option)

I turn on day 1 but I don't have anyone to call that has that option so nothing really changed for me I don't find my coverage any better or worse. I do notice I have voice and data now (at the same time I mean)
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VZW Volte
When I go to Verizon website to select volte in my plan a pop up says 1 or more of my other selections i already have is not compatible with volte and must be unselected to get volte. It is saying Ringback Tones needs to be unselected.
Has anyone else experienced this?

Verizon range extender problems

Anybody else on Verizon using a Verizon brand extender? A search found one other old thread but no definitive fix. The one proposed fix was to set the phone to 1x speed to force it out of hunting for towers outside and hope that 5.1 fixed the problem. I just got my phone from Verizon, it came out of the box with 5.1, so it would seem they didn't fix it. And I can't seem to find how to set it to 1x. Only from global to LTE. I'm dropping calls, having problems with texts, and Verizon support admitted it doesn't seem that my calls are going through the extender. They said the 6 should be perfectly capable of utilizing this extender. My note 3 worked perfect on it, and as far as I know the wife's note 4 does as well. I get the beep like it's calling through it, just not the signal. And this phone doesn't have a separate icon to show if it's connected, intermittent, or never recognizing it. Is this a known issue and I just didn't search properly? Running 5.1 LMY47E, bone stock. I warrantied the phone, same thing. So this thing is literally about an hour out of the box, no mods. Looking forward to rooting and running some roms but I'd like to know I've got any issues ironed out before hand. That way I'll know any future issues are rom related, not hardware
TIA

Unfortunately there is no fix unless Verizon decides to somehow upgrade the software/firmware of the extender. I'm surprised that Verizon tech support didn't inform you that the extender is not capable of utilizing 4G or enhanced network capability and can only function with 3G or less. I spent a bit of time on the phone with tech support and requested a problem ticket be raised to Verizon engineers to get a definitive answer -their response was that the extender can not do 4G but only 3G. The way I was able to get my Nexus 6 to successfully connect was to turn the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" off and then it was able to connect. This is not a nexus 6 issue only but from what I've seen is any phone that has that enhanced 4G setting - my wife's Iphone 6 is also unable to use the extender unless that phone capability to use 4G/LTE is turned off. Surprised you even got the beep as never of our phones get that connection beep unless the 4G/Enhanced switch is off.
I'm surprised (maybe not) that Verizon continues to sell the same Network Extender even though it no longer works with the new network capability or with phones that use that technology. Also brought that up with them during my call but of course that wasn't addressed. I also got no information as to any plans to upgrade the extender firmware but I'm assuming the lack of info speaks loudly.
Again one can never be assured of whether the information they provided me is accurate or no so if you find out differently please post back.
Also, my Nexus 6 is rooted and I have tried numerous ROMs and the ROM makes no difference so that isn't going to fix the issue.
Hopes this helps a bit.

chameo53 said:
Unfortunately there is no fix unless Verizon decides to somehow upgrade the software/firmware of the extender....
Again one can never be assured of whether the information they provided me is accurate or no so if you find out differently please post back.
Also, my Nexus 6 is rooted and I have tried numerous ROMs and the ROM makes no difference so that isn't going to fix the issue.
Hopes this helps a bit.
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This helps a ton, thanks! I've always known that the extender didn't support anything above 3g, but it's never been an issue since my router took care of data and 3g was plenty for calls and texts. But I was thinking it had something to do with this... I haven't researched any of this new stuff about xlte or whatever it is but I know it seems the phones are changing to support some mods to the network. I haven't paid attention because my town is usually the last to receive this sort of technology. Big cities were going to 4g soon after we upgraded to 3g...
Can you tell me if the pic below is the menu that you used? I can't find any setting anywhere else that specifically says 3g, to try to force it into a mode that the extender understand.

you can dial #48 and the phone will tell you if you are under network extender coverage

The setting that needs to be disabled is on the same screen where you set the preferred network type (actually under the one you are displaying). It should be the next setting following the Preferred network type. It actually has a slider to turn on or off. Now, I'm not running stock but I believe it should be the same or very similar on stock.
Not on my phone or i'd try to include a screenshot. Hope this helps.
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you can dial #48 and the phone will tell you if you are under network extender coverage
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that detail. The Verizon tech had me do this. It actually told me I was connecting through the extender. And the call seemed relatively clear. But I could hang up and immediately dial my voicemail or some other number, get the beep from connecting through the extender, but the call would be spotty and cutting out badly. And the tech was confused by this because it wasn't showing on his system that I was connecting through the extender even when the #48 said I was. Strange things going on with this...
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The setting that needs to be disabled is on the same screen where you set the preferred network type (actually under the one you are displaying). It should be the next setting following the Preferred network type. It actually has a slider to turn on or off. Now, I'm not running stock but I believe it should be the same or very similar on stock.
Not on my phone or i'd try to include a screenshot. Hope this helps.
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I'm not typing on my phone either, to include a screenshot. But I'm looking at it. The option directly under Preferred network type (which I have changed back to the default Global), is System Select. The subtext under that says "Change the CDMA roaming mode". And within the menu, the two options are "Home only" and "Automatic", of which Automatic is the default. Is this what I'm looking for?

Do you have Advanced Calling activated on you phone? Not sure if that is the issue or not but on your Verizon Wireless account you should see Advanced Calling (I believe that is what it is called) under "Manage Products. & Aps" - you should have the option to add it to your account. It is a free service but as I understand it you need to include it on your account for the phone to use Volte and it might not show up in settings if it is not an active service on the phone. Again, I'm only guessing here since I'm not on stock but I do believe I've had the option since I got the phone and I added HD calling right after I completed the pre-order.

chameo53 said:
Do you have Advanced Calling activated on you phone? Not sure if that is the issue or not but on your Verizon Wireless account you should see Advanced Calling (I believe that is what it is called) under "Manage Products. & Aps" - you should have the option to add it to your account. It is a free service but as I understand it you need to include it on your account for the phone to use Volte and it might not show up in settings if it is not an active service on the phone. Again, I'm only guessing here since I'm not on stock but I do believe I've had the option since I got the phone and I added HD calling right after I completed the pre-order.
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I will log on in a bit and look. So are you suggesting that I enable it, or disable it? Is it believed that HAVING this feature is what is killing the link to the extender? Sorry for the dumb questions. Like I said, I've never had to look into the new tower technology before because I don't anticipate getting it in my area. I never thought about it still affecting my service anyway, even though we weren't getting it... figures.

For me to use my extender the 4G enhanced/LTE needs to be disabled. What I don't know is whether that setting shows up on the phone if the Advanced Calling isn't active on the account. If it doesn't show up there might be no way to disable it. I know it sounds somewhat illogical but again
I'm guessing to some extent given that I have it on mine and I really think it has been there from the start.
Sorry I can't be definite with it.

Unable to get wi-fi calling activated on Straight Talk network

Just got my Pixel 5 today and in reading up on it I discovered it has wi-fi calling capabilities. While this wasn't something I was actively looking for, it would be nice to have as the finished basement of our new house doesn't really get cellular signals, and even the rest of the house doesn't have the greatest cellular connection.
I do have wi-fi all throughout the house though, so if I could enable this feature it would be a bonus. I'm on Straight Talk, using the AT&T towers, and I'm just wondering if anyone has had any luck getting this feature activated with them. I've tried using their automated tool to see if the phone is capable, but it's telling me no. I don't see any options looking through the phone settings, and looking around on the ST site they don't mention the Pixel 5 in their FAQ section.
So is this phone feature only available on certain carriers? Do I need to get an updated SIM from Straight Talk (the one I'm using I've had for about 4-5 years or so)? Any help would be appreciated.

AT&T is very particular about what devices can use VoLTE and VoWIFI. i've found occasional workarounds, but for the most part you need an AT&T branded device for those features. AT&T has a running list of provisioned devices.
I'm afraid you are probably out of luck on this.

Too bad to hear this. Luckily, I've been surprised to find that I'm able to actually make and receive calls, at least in the main living area of the basement, so everything worked out okay in the end.

I can't promise you that it will work but from experience I'm pretty sure ..... If you can get customer support at ATT to provision your account for wifi calling AND put a dummy IMEI in your acct from a device that does wifi calling (one that is whitelisted by ATT) the wifi calling will work ..
I have done this many many times. The dummy IMEI had actually never been needed with pixel devices though, for me

jcrompton said:
I can't promise you that it will work but from experience I'm pretty sure ..... If you can get customer support at ATT to provision your account for wifi calling AND put a dummy IMEI in your acct from a device that does wifi calling (one that is whitelisted by ATT) the wifi calling will work ..
I have done this many many times. The dummy IMEI had actually never been needed with pixel devices though, for me
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Would that even work in my case though, since I'm not an AT&T customer? I have Straight Talk, which is using the AT&T bands/towers, but I'm not technically with AT&T.

Geese1 said:
Would that even work in my case though, since I'm not an AT&T customer? I have Straight Talk, which is using the AT&T bands/towers, but I'm not technically with AT&T.
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Not sure if calling Straight talk sand using an IMEI from a phone that normally does wifi calling with ATT would work or not. Go to an att and copy the IMEI of a demo phone then call straight talk and switch to that phone

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Not sure if calling Straight talk sand using an IMEI from a phone that normally does wifi calling with ATT would work or not. Go to an att and copy the IMEI of a demo phone then call straight talk and switch to that phone
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I may have to try that if it really starts becoming a problem. Surprisingly, as I mentioned above, I can actually make and receive calls in the main part of the basement. Maybe because it is the house above us, and not mostly the garage/solid cement like in the other portion where I was having trouble before, I'm not sure. It's pretty much just storage rooms in that section of the basement anyway, although that is where the internet comes in and the modem is located (the house is fully wired for internet, so I have a switch that feeds out from the basement to go throughout the house). Only time it would really become a concern is if I have to be on the phone with our internet provider while simultaneously working on the router or modem. Barring that, the phone seems to work fine throughout the majority of the basement, which wasn't what I was expecting.

Rog phone 3 mobile network issue

Hey so I've had my Rog phone 3 for over 3 months now, updated to A12. A constant problem has been the mobile network. Works fine for WhatsApp, but for normal browser (different browsers), other apps requiring internet, though the mobile data is on, it acts like it's offline, showing offline. I have to toggle on and off airplane mode for it to eventually work. Then if I turn off mobile data and turn back on, the cycle repeats. Please help

I'm having the same issue here too. The A12 Beta had choppy Network Connectivity that would just crumple my phone and not allow me to use Communications or Data, the random disconnects were absolutely infuriating, and after updating to the stable build, it was just not allowing Mobile Communication at all. (No Incoming or Outgoing calls)
I'm extremely happy about the downgrade FW however to allow me to revert to A11 that at least allows my phone to function as intended, even if I cannot enjoy the update that A12 has to offer.

Downgrading from A12 to A11 is an Upgrade. A12 has little to offer beyond making your OS look like a kindergarten app ...

Upgraded to A12 last night with the OTA. Data is fine but I cannot make calls, network immediately drops. no other issues with the phone though, 4g data works.5g never worked but volte did (At&t network) VoLte doesn't show up and I cannot find a place to enable it however there is a toggle for it in notifications. I spent about 3 hours at AT&T. So. here is info if it helps anyone. They told me that the phone is somehow locked to 3g calling even though the sim card shows LTE voice. After the update only calls dont work. The guy said he helped me before by provisioning an older sim card and using VoLte, however from what i understand The phone Does support more than 3g voice but if someone can correct me that would be cool. Also I found out if I put a sim card from an ATT iPhone it will connect at 5g (20mbps speed tested). I said well if I lose voice and have to figure out a wifi calling plan I would rather do it with 5G, however when they provisioned a 5G sim for me on my account it wont link above 4g+ (1-3mbps) same tower. So im at a loss. I know part of it is the new android 12 update, I know some of it is the stupid account provisioning and i know some is the phone. I DO NOT know what is what so any help would be awesome. If there is some way to add VoLte back to the phone in android 12, flash a new radio or something... but if someone can shed some light onto what is really happening so I know where I can press that would be slick. if the phone does communicate through something other than 3g voice then I can push back on At&t but i have kept this "less" a development platform and more a daily driver. I guess that has to now change LOL!

Andrologic said:
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How can I downgrade. This new update is killing me

TheMightyElk said:
Upgraded to A12 last night with the OTA. Data is fine but I cannot make calls, network immediately drops. no other issues with the phone though, 4g data works.5g never worked but volte did (At&t network) VoLte doesn't show up and I cannot find a place to enable it however there is a toggle for it in notifications. I spent about 3 hours at AT&T. So. here is info if it helps anyone. They told me that the phone is somehow locked to 3g calling even though the sim card shows LTE voice. After the update only calls dont work. The guy said he helped me before by provisioning an older sim card and using VoLte, however from what i understand The phone Does support more than 3g voice but if someone can correct me that would be cool. Also I found out if I put a sim card from an ATT iPhone it will connect at 5g (20mbps speed tested). I said well if I lose voice and have to figure out a wifi calling plan I would rather do it with 5G, however when they provisioned a 5G sim for me on my account it wont link above 4g+ (1-3mbps) same tower. So im at a loss. I know part of it is the new android 12 update, I know some of it is the stupid account provisioning and i know some is the phone. I DO NOT know what is what so any help would be awesome. If there is some way to add VoLte back to the phone in android 12, flash a new radio or something... but if someone can shed some light onto what is really happening so I know where I can press that would be slick. if the phone does communicate through something other than 3g voice then I can push back on At&t but i have kept this "less" a development platform and more a daily driver. I guess that has to now change LOL!
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Any developments on this? I am having the same issue.

Mine seems to lose connectivity after returning from do not disturb or when I'm inside with no signal for a while. I have to toggle airplane mode for sec, then I can use the phone. My wife texts me a few times a week, "It's going straight to voicemail again.", then I toggle it and call her. It will work fine for the rest of the day. Doesn't happen every time, though. Bizarre, though most of the time it's in the morning after returning from do not disturb mode. Kind of a hassle, but I'm coping. I'm going to start logging when it happens to see if any settings may be causing this.