There is an iPhone 3G app called VOiPover3G that tricks other iPhone apps into thinking that they are on Wi-Fi even though they are on 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Is anything like this being looked at/developed for Android phones??
Please post questions about apps in the correct subforum. This will probably get locked...
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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It would allow programs like sipdroid (the market version) to think it was on wifi and when we finally get something like Fring for Android that would also be able to use the data package to make voip calls, even "real" skype calls.
It is in the wrong part of the forum, but I might as well answer it...
While the iPhone doesn't allow certain services over 3G (e.g. VoIP stuff), the current Android handsets + apps don't do such a thing.
e.g. Sipdroid works fine over edge/umts/wifi (as good as those networks can support VoIP).
It's really kind of a strange question to be honest. If there isn't a problem, don't ask questions about it
JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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Not to harp on the point made by Diceman4, but it really isn't the correct sub-forum. If you look at the Stickies in the Apps/Games sub-forum, you will see that one of them is regarding request/ideas for applications.
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This forum is for dev including apps dev.
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I don't see any development going on in the first post though. This seems more like a post for the "ideas for apps" thread in app subforum. Although if the op came back with a chunk of code that needed debugging, that would be a different story.
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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Why? a better bet would be to ask the sipdroid creator to include a user configurable port setting. The point of android is that the workarounds don't need to be workarounds on the phone, but rather workrounds for interfacing with the network.
robiom said:
The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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If you use pbxes there are a handful of different ports that will work but I haven't been able to get any to work. Saying that, up till recently I was using Gizmo5 but pbxes have blocked it's use after they (Gizmo5) allegedly stole/used sipdroid code and renamed it as if it was there own.
If any one has had success with sipdroid on 3g etc on t-mob UK please post the sip provider and the settings used.
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
turboyo said:
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Been there, done that, even got the T-shirt.
The problem is T-mob in the UK are a pain in the neck and are blocking the port 5060.
As someone has already mentioned in this thread, what is needed is a user configurable port so that T-mob UK can't block.
Let's hope sipdroid developers can do something along those lines.
I don't get it... have you tried all the alternative ports listed in pbxes website?
53, 69, 80, 135, 161, 443, 500, 1433, 1701, 1812, 3389, 4500, 5061, 5900, 16999, 26999 and
36999 (recommended)
Note:
Because of the DNS entries for pbxes.org your device may be selecting port 5060 automatically. If you want to use an alternative port enter 188.40.65.148 as SIP server.
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Both of them work as UDP or TCP.
TCP is recommended as it will help with battery life.
If none of these ports work, then It has to be that T-mobile has a Layer 7 filter in place looking for the SIP signaling traffic, and there should be no workaround possible unless you can wrap your sip traffic in a VPN. Nothing can be done to stop that, unless they filter the whole L2TP,PPTP,IPSEC or OpenVPN protocols.
I have tried most if not all of the ports specified and still no joy BUT I'll give it another go. What SIP provider do you use?
If T-mob are killing all SIP traffic how is it possible to use sipdriod over VPN?? Surely that is a major undertaking?
If it was done though, it would be the most robust and bulletproof VOIP app and would never be stopped Brilliant
I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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Changing phones WILL NOT work since it isn't the phone that is causing the problem, it is the provider.
VPN should be fine, but you'll need a VPN server somewhere to connect through, i.e., your home computer.
There is nothing a carrier can do to block SIP over VPN. Everything is tunneled over the VPN connection so they can't know what goes in there.
As soon as we have a reliable VPN service (Donut seems to have PPTP or L2TP, although I'd love to see OpenVPN there) , you'll ve able to set-up your own voip and vpn server and pipe all the voice through it.
There is a couple of VoIP providers who can do that for you. One that comes to mind is callwithus.
On the connection issue with t-mobile, I suggest you try this:
If you have a DMZ linux/cygwin (altough a windows box might make it) host or a shell anywhere you can test if your provider is locking those ports, the pbxes ip or maybe even the SIP traffic.
Listen in a port using netcat:
netcat -n -l -vvvv 5060
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Launch the Terminal Emulator in your android phone and test if you can connect to your host:
nc <your_hostname> 5060
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Type something... if you can see the text, they have a L7 filter in place.
If you can't see anything, they are blocking the port.
Now change the listening port to 36999 for instance.
Try to connect again. It should work.
Now in Sipdroid, add your hostname, give it any username, any password, use the 36999 port and select TCP connection and keep the netcat running on your listening host.
If you see a connection in your listening host and some signalling traffic, pbxes should work for you.
If you don't, then there's a really advance L7 filter between you and the internet and they can block anything they want to.
In this case, the only solution (and there's nothing they can do unless they also block it), is to use a VPN.
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. I'll try and go through all the procedures you've suggested stickman and I'll post the results
Hi all!
I'm a happy g1 user, who often use the wireless tether for root users-app. Really like this app, I think its one of the best for android.
On my study places theres no public wifi point, so no wireless internet access.
I have a limited data plan, so I can go online(if its urgent) while "studying" .
I enabled the access control, otherwise the other ones would consume my traffic volume in a few days
My question is:
Would it be possible to make an redirect for the other people, who connect to my phone?
I mean, when they open the browser and try to google ^^ they would be redirected to a page on my phone/or a redirect to my laptop?
It would be great to give them some infos for e.g. an running ircserver.
If someone has a idea, how to do that, I would be really happy
Greetings, scheich
You would have to rewrite the iptables rules used by tether, but yes, definitely possible. Why though? Wouldn't it be better to just keep them out entirely?
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Hi all!
I'm a happy g1 user, who often use the wireless tether for root users-app. Really like this app, I think its one of the best for android.
On my study places theres no public wifi point, so no wireless internet access.
I have a limited data plan, so I can go online(if its urgent) while "studying" .
I enabled the access control, otherwise the other ones would consume my traffic volume in a few days
My question is:
Would it be possible to make an redirect for the other people, who connect to my phone?
I mean, when they open the browser and try to google ^^ they would be redirected to a page on my phone/or a redirect to my laptop?
It would be great to give them some infos for e.g. an running ircserver.
If someone has a idea, how to do that, I would be really happy
Greetings, scheich
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Hmm, year sure, but I think it would be interesting to chat "offline" with each other, and talk about stuff of the course.
Thx for the info about the iptables, I will take a look at it.
Hey folks!
I followed the instructions posted by allcaps33 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53549710 to get provisioning disabled, and the native hotspot app is working for me now! I just wanted to confirm if this was an operation similar to running Wifi Tether Router on an unlocked/rooted device (I had an S2Sky prior that I tethered off of regularly). I've got one of those too-rare Unlimited Data plans and am traveling cross-country, made possible by being able to tether my laptop to my phone to work. Just wanting to confirm that this was relatively as secure as using the Wifi Tether Router on my S2Sky. On a semi-related note, that app doesn't seem to want to run properly on my S5; when I click Enable Router it turns on the Wifi, which immediately connects to the house's wired router. It still broadcasts but doesn't send data, and it's hit or miss if a device can even connect to it from there.
Next question - I'm used to flashing a CM ROM within the first couple days of getting a new phone, which doesn't seem feasible just yet with the S5 (from what I can tell anyway; I'm not used to having a current-gen device). I've heard about the myriad evils of OTA updates, and was hoping to get help on how to disable them. I would like to avoid my device upgrading to a point where my above-stated desired functionality is disabled. Ideally, I'd like to get rid of the various bloatware apps as well, though am not sure how to go about that.
I appreciate your time and support, and thanks for being a community that's always been there for me as I derp along with my fancy internet boxes!
Hi!
The absolute easiest way is to use Rom Toolbox. I have the pro version, but I believe it's available in the lite version as well.
Download and open up RTB.
Tap on "App Manager"
Then scroll down until you see "AT&T Software Update"
Tap on it.
A popup will display. Swipe from right to left, and you will be on the "Advanced" tab.
Scroll down and tap on "Advanced Freeze."
You will come to a screen which shows you the Activities, Recievers, Services, and Providers. Tap on EACH box/line. This will Disable OTA services.
We're not done yet!
Go back to the App Manager screen again, and repeat the process for an app called "LocalFOTA"
Finished!
I also Disable most of the bloatware and Knox this way.
Have fun!
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Now for the hard part...
Yes this can be as secure as the other the tether. Ensure you use and change the password service with the app.
As for the tether turning your wifi on, it is supposed to do that. The best way to get this to work is to turn the tether on and off (then on again). If this does not work, try emptying the data/cache for the built-in tether app. And start from scratch.
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I also Disable most of the bloatware and Knox this way.
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KNOX - What is it? I'm under the impression it's some sort of security for the phone, to protect from malicious activity that you might not be aware of, but also that it'll "tattle" on you if you mod your phone in a way AT&T doesn't approve.
Knox is two things.
1) It is a security container for apps. It works as both a license/drm type software for Samsung official apps.
And
2) Android contains a root environment at all times. This is what makes SU possible. It used to be quite easy to invoke Android system calls as root.
Root is actually separate from super user. Knox, like SEPolicy, helps dev companies detect, halt, and/or hinder apps, not su itself, but apps that that use these root system calls.
Be wise, even though Knox itself does not "report" these types of actions, it still logs them. And there are other apps that can read these logs and send out these reports. I should say (and I'm only guessing) that only work/company issued phones are setup like this. Not your personal phone.
In fact, our phones actually contain a file which logs all root system calls. It has nothing to do with Knox but, I believe this binary is what hinders us open devs, but makes it easy for Samsung and AT&T to restore/repair our phones.
For more info on Knox:
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/partners/app-developers
My HTC One Remix has been having issues the past several hours.
My internet connection (mobile data) seems to think I'm running through a VPN connection, although no VPN apps or settings are set up.
I do have a couple miscellaneous network admin and pentesting tools on my phone, but nothing that should be disrupting my connection like this. The only two VPN apps I have have on/off switches, both marked to off, and both apps are greenified in my system.
This issue only occurs when connected to mobile data, and it only seems to effect my internet browser (firefox). Other apps were working okay, such as my email and dropbox accounts.
Firefox has no internal settings to alter VPN connections, and I've made no changes to the app.
The only possibility I could think was causing it was SSHTunnel being installed without Root access being active (my phone is rooted, but I turn it on and off.)
I uninstalled SSHTunnel and the problem persisted.
Android version is 4.4.2 Kitkat, model is a Verizon HTC One Remix, or HTC One Mini 2. Not sure what other specs might be needed.
Here is a list of pentesting and network admin apps I currently have installed that could be causing the issue;
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Other things that might cause the problem;
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If anyone can offer any fixes or solutions, please leave me a message here, or, if you are very detailed
If this thread is in the wrong place, please feel free to move it, and send me a PM notifying me of such.
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Lucky Patcher is Warez and its not allowed in XDA per XDA Rules #6 including discussion involving any warez is not allowed in XDA.
kindly review XDA Rules again.
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