Hello everybody, I just got my Moto X and I have to say it is a lovely device better than I expected in terms of how it feels in the hand. Really compact device.
I have some questions:
1. My phone has 4.4.2 but OTA fails to update it to 4.4.3. Is there any software that I can use to update the phone?
2. Is there a flashtool software where I can flash different .ftf fies?
3. Root option for 4.4.3 available?
1. There are a few threads discussing the 4.4.3 OTA, and what condition your phone must be in to receive/install the OTA. For example -> [XT1053] 4.4.3 OTA Update Zip and Android™ 4.4.3, KitKat® Rolls Out to Moto Devices I'm sure if you READ it, you'll find information that will solve your issue. Or if you post details of your phone, carrier, any tweaks you've made to it, etc...
2. I do not believe so.
3. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you *can* Root 4.4.3. If you have a LOCKED bootloader, you *can not* root 4.4.3.
asilviug said:
Hello everybody, I just got my Moto X and I have to say it is a lovely device better than I expected in terms of how it feels in the hand. Really compact device.
I have some questions:
1. My phone has 4.4.2 but OTA fails to update it to 4.4.3. Is there any software that I can use to update the phone?
2. Is there a flashtool software where I can flash different .ftf fies?
3. Root option for 4.4.3 available?
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Locked or unlocked bootloader? What carrier?
I have an unlocked Dev Ed Moto X running TMobile, and it accepted the 4.4.3 OTA update. I first had to revert entirely to stock 4.4.2, though.
varxx said:
Locked or unlocked bootloader? What carrier?
I have an unlocked Dev Ed Moto X running TMobile, and it accepted the 4.4.3 OTA update. I first had to revert entirely to stock 4.4.2, though.
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My phone is branded with an AT&T logo on the back. Model number is xt1058 and I'm running stock 4.4.2
I don't know about the bootloader though, how can I verify that?
I would really like to update this to 4.4.3 and root it, although it's not that easy I see.
Any help would be highly appreciated. I'm even considering throwing in a bounty
asilviug said:
My phone is branded with an AT&T logo on the back. Model number is xt1058 and I'm running stock 4.4.2
I don't know about the bootloader though, how can I verify that?
I would really like to update this to 4.4.3 and root it, although it's not that easy I see.
Any help would be highly appreciated. I'm even considering throwing in a bounty
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Ok... here we go...
4.4.3 is not out for the ATT XT1058 yet, so you can't update to it. You need to wait for ATT to start making it available.
ATT XT1058 has a locked bootloader, and Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes. Your only option to unlock the bootloader is *IF* (or maybe when) the Chinese WebSite/MiddelMan comes back to selling bootloader unlock codes. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
There is no option to root 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection. There is now a Root Exploit for 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader, but there is not an exploit to disable write protection. This means if you'd root, then anytime you power your phone off/on, the changes, root, etc is lost. And Root style apps that need to write to /system and the like, CANT.
there is no root option for 4.4.3 with a locked bootloader
For more details see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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Ok... here we go...
4.4.3 is not out for the ATT XT1058 yet, so you can't update to it. You need to wait for ATT to start making it available.
ATT XT1058 has a locked bootloader, and Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes. Your only option to unlock the bootloader is *IF* (or maybe when) the Chinese WebSite/MiddelMan comes back to selling bootloader unlock codes. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
There is no option to root 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection. There is now a Root Exploit for 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader, but there is not an exploit to disable write protection. This means if you'd root, then anytime you power your phone off/on, the changes, root, etc is lost. And Root style apps that need to write to /system and the like, CANT.
there is no root option for 4.4.3 with a locked bootloader
For more details see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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Thanks for the info fist of all. Not very good news but it is what it is.
I took a look at that link and apparently the newer models of Moto X are most likely to get an unlock code. My phone is from 2013 most probably but I don't know how to find out exactly. Can you advise on this matter as getting a code from that asian dude seems the next step for me.
asilviug said:
Thanks for the info fist of all. Not very good news but it is what it is.
I took a look at that link and apparently the newer models of Moto X are most likely to get an unlock code. My phone is from 2013 most probably but I don't know how to find out exactly. Can you advise on this matter as getting a code from that asian dude seems the next step for me.
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There are several ways to find out your date code.. The easiest is to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode, and select the option for Bar Codes. The date displayed there is the build date.
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There are several ways to find out your date code.. The easiest is to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode, and select the option for Bar Codes. The date displayed there is the build date.
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Thanks, it appears that my phone is from August 2013. I will try to get a code. Before I do that just want to double check it with you.
Once I get the unlock code, I can root 4.4.2 that I'm currently running and also future updates released by AT&T/Motorola in the near future including the 4.4.3?
asilviug said:
Thanks, it appears that my phone is from August 2013. I will try to get a code. Before I do that just want to double check it with you.
Once I get the unlock code, I can root 4.4.2 that I'm currently running and also future updates released by AT&T/Motorola in the near future including the 4.4.3?
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Correct. Once you unlock your bootloader (which is DESTRUCTIVE, so BACKUP EVERYTHING To Your PC, or Cloud, before you do the process), you will be able to root any android version by flashing a 3rd party recovery (like TWRP), booting to the 3rd party recovery and installing SuperSU.
For more info, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
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Correct. Once you unlock your bootloader (which is DESTRUCTIVE, so BACKUP EVERYTHING To Your PC, or Cloud, before you do the process), you will be able to root any android version by flashing a 3rd party recovery (like TWRP), booting to the 3rd party recovery and installing SuperSU.
For more info, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
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Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible asking them politely?
asilviug said:
Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible to ask them politely?
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Zero chance. Sorry.
I mean...it's certainly possible to ask them politely, but they still won't give it to you....guaranteed.
I'm guessing you have a 2013 variant since the middleman couldn't help you?
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Zero chance. Sorry.
I mean...it's certainly possible to ask them politely, but they still won't give it to you....guaranteed.
I'm guessing you have a 2013 variant since the middleman couldn't help you?
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Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
asilviug said:
Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
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I'm not an AT&T customer, so I can't advise on contact info, but I can tell you that you will be wasting your time if you even try. The chance that they will give you the code is exactly 0% no matter how nicely you ask them.
You might consider selling your AT&T XT1058 and buying one that can be unlocked, such as the XT1053, or the XT1058 Roger's variant if unlocking the BL is that important to you.
Good Luck
asilviug said:
Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible asking them politely?
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asilviug said:
Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
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You have zero chance getting a boot loader unlock code from Att or Moto.
And If you are not living in the USA, then you are likely not an ATT customer, so they won't even talk to you.
someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
dgross1123 said:
someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
KidJoe said:
I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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I have seen NOTHING on using JTAG to unlock the bootloader on the Moto X.
Since its release, the only way to UNLOCK the Bootloader on the X has been to get the unlock code.
How reliable is the middle man? Just read that thread. If the build date on your phone is 2014, you will likely be able to get a code. The middle man doesn't have "real time access" to the database containing the unlock codes, so if your phone was built a week ago, you might have to wait. As long as you meet those conditions, you'll likely get your code. In cases where the middle man didn't have the code, he's refunded the money.
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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Nope. Not if the bootloader is unlocked...
Good Luck
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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You might, but with an unlocked bootlaoder you can easily re-root at any time.
I have seen all of the rooting threads for this phone , but none have mentioned AT&T's version of this phone. Would I be able to unlock the bootloader and root this phone, or will I have to wait until an alternative rooting method appears?
just give it a try and let us know how it goes.
holtenc said:
just give it a try and let us know how it goes.
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It's not going to work, he needs an unlocked bootloader, and that will never be officially available for the AT&T version. There could potentially be a third party way in the future. The 2013 AT&T and Verizon version is barely getting it now with "Sunshine" unlock method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
AT&T moto x 2014 xt1097. does anyone know how to get UNIQUE_KEY to unlcok bootloader
So I have an AT&T moto x 2014 1097. I'm having trouble unlocking bootloader. I know how to unlock it just and get the UNIQUE_KEY for the command to unlock bootloader. I was curious if anyone had multiple methods on how to acquire the UNIQUE_KEY wether its calling Motorola, calling at&t, if I unlock sim from at&t (because I own the phone) would that help remove at&t software, or if there is any programs or ways to achieve the UNIQUE_KEY. Thanks again for any help/knowledge.
Why you not call the at&t to ask them if can help you.
Maybe at&t hold the unlock permision.
papsr6 said:
Why you not call the at&t to ask them if can help you.
Maybe at&t hold the unlock permision.
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ATT won't help him unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately you are screwed unless you are on an update where something like Kingroot (fwiw i don't trust this software) would work.
Unlocking SIM has nothing to do with bootloader or root.
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ATT won't help him unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately you are screwed unless you are on an update where something like Kingroot (fwiw i don't trust this software) would work.
Unlocking SIM has nothing to do with bootloader or root.
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I know that unlocking sim is not somwthing for bootloader but why att models cant unlock bootloader.
I thing all other have no problem with that.
Thats the reason i say to ask att.
papsr6 said:
I know that unlocking sim is not somwthing for bootloader but why att models cant unlock bootloader.
I thing all other have no problem with that.
Thats the reason i say to ask att.
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Because it was a carrier phone and their decision. Verizon's 2014 Moto X was bootloader locked for the longest time too. They were nice enough to change their mind but they didn't have to. I'm sure many have tried to ask att and look where we still are.........................
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
Because it was a carrier phone and their decision. Verizon's 2014 Moto X was bootloader locked for the longest time too. They were nice enough to change their mind but they didn't have to. I'm sure many have tried to ask att and look where we still are.........................
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Send email to motorola to ask them.
I dont know what else sorry.
Was wondering If I need to have bootloader unlocked to use this method (https://www.droidwin.com/unbrick-oneplus-10-pro-flash-firmware-via-fastboot-commands/) Or if it would work without having the bootloader unlocked? I am waiting for OnePlus to get back to me with my unlock token as I am on the T-mobile model. Thank you!
Need to unlock
Go global next time, swerve Verizon and t-mobile. They change things, helps no one, just causes issues.
Beyond that the other response is correct.