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Dont know if anyone is aware of this, but came across it while browsing for dropbox and online storage. Im using this instead of dropbox, just informing everyone else. Enjoy!
https://support.box.net/entries/20768867-box-50-gb-promotion-faqs
Box.net is offering 50GB Cloud Storage (100MB file upload limit) for Free for Android Phones & Tablets, HP TouchPad, and BlackBerry PlayBook. Thanks sohamehta
For Android Phones & Tablets, click here and install Box on phone/tablet and sign in to get upgraded automatically
For HP TouchPad and BlackBerry PlayBook, download Box and sign in to get upgraded automatically

jaquez4 said:
Dont know if anyone is aware of this, but came across it while browsing for dropbox and online storage. Im using this instead of dropbox, just informing everyone else. Enjoy!
https://support.box.net/entries/20768867-box-50-gb-promotion-faqs
Box.net is offering 50GB Cloud Storage (100MB file upload limit) for Free for Android Phones & Tablets, HP TouchPad, and BlackBerry PlayBook. Thanks sohamehta
For Android Phones & Tablets, click here and install Box on phone/tablet and sign in to get upgraded automatically
For HP TouchPad and BlackBerry PlayBook, download Box and sign in to get upgraded automatically
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Old news, but thanks.
Check out bitcasa. Box is great, Dropbox used to be...but bitcasa smokes them both with UNLIMITED online storage.

Dropbox ftw!

I really like dropbox, but thanks - i'll check it out

Google Drive VS Dropbox VS Box.. Fight!!

Google Drive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKJ9KzGQq0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SjRH3SImlM
Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/
Box:
http://www.box.com
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If you are planning to copy or move
your files to the cloud.. for sharing, back up etc.
Which of the above you should choose?
Which one is better?
Or is something better than
the above?
Help us decide!
ff

I bought 100Gb of Google Drive thanks to all the positive hype but so far have been disappointed. It works as promised for non-document data, the webintent "Open In" seems useful, but that's all about it. So much functionality is missing, it's irritating.
The most frustrating thing however is the treating of documents as shortcuts that do not contain the actual document but only a shortcut to open it on Google Docs. You want to open your resume in Office? Tough ****. Google doesn't like that.

I can't even open a RTF-file in G-Drive on my phone.
Edit: Wow, even Dropbox can't do it. What is this? 2011?

I just wish Google Drive had auto picture upload like Dropbox and Sugarsync.
I know Google+ has it, but I wish it were an option on Drive too...

I think G-Drive gonna be great if it gets full Android Integration! But now, i use Dropbox!

dropbox for now!

Drive app is a filthy battery whore.....
Dropbox it is..........

Dropbox for me ...

Dropbox (2GB) + Drive (5GB) + Minus (10GB) + Box (50GB) = 67 GB of free storage

LordManhattan said:
Dropbox (2GB) + Drive (5GB) + Minus (10GB) + Box (50GB) = 67 GB of free storage
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Nice
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Why it's a my Google drive not ready yet
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LordManhattan said:
Dropbox (2GB) + Drive (5GB) + Minus (10GB) + Box (50GB) = 67 GB of free storage
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+ SugarSync = 69...
GB that is....

Free?
Scratch that.. Didn't see the "+"
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LordManhattan said:
Free?
Scratch that.. Didn't see the "+"
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Yup, I think its an extra GB per referal too which is nice because it's one of the less well known ones.... Encrypted too, very secure.

conantroutman said:
+ SugarSync = 69...
GB that is....
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Plus microsoft Skydrive = 76

Plus 4 more Box accounts = 276 GB *Insert:trollface.jpg*

Drive. I love integration and consolidation. Drive syncs with Docs and I like that. I just wish Drive didn't outright replace the Docs shortcut in the desktop version.
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conantroutman said:
Drive app is a filthy battery whore.....
Dropbox it is..........
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I was curious about that. Thanks for confirming. Even after removing it though, my battery still rapidly decreases while the phone has the screen off doing nothing. Nothing else is keeping it awake. I have no idea how that's possible.
Also Google Drive doesn't have public link sharing from the desktop. I prefer Dropbox any day. There's no reason to switch thus far unless you want a lot of storage for a cheap price.

Haven't noticed any drop in battery life after installing Drive, but i'll keep an eye on it from now on.

Google Drive because it has many features.........

Google Cloud

I'm new to android, the Nexus 7 will be my first android device.
Since the N7 is "made for Google Play", what can I do with the Google Play cloud?
Can I upload my own music to the cloud?
Can I upload my own movies to the cloud?
Will the cloud stream my uploaded music or movies to my N7?
I know I can BUY many kinds of content from Google Play store and use it from the cloud but I'm on a limited budget and can't afford to buy music or movies I already own.

you can upload music via google music. as for movies I believe you can stream it by renting it through the playstore, netflix etc. For streaming your own movies you have to figure that out using probably a third party app... as far as I know you can't stream anything from your google drive.

If you have a PC, there's a program from the google music website that can automatically upload your music collection or whatever music you desire to Google Music (up to 20,000 songs). You can then stream it to any of your android devices. You can even save songs from Google Music to your device to be available offline.

Yeah I used google music to upload my entire music collection so I can stream all that. For movies and tv shows I'll either use a friend's Netflix or put them on the device. Thing about cloud storage is that they usually have an upload limit, so you wouldn't be able to upload shows you already have.

Google Music may or may not work for you. For me, it hasn't worked at all. Every time I use Music Manager it will get stuck after a few songs and do nothing or just go really slow. I started it last night and right now its only done 16 songs. That's ridiculous. And I have good bandwidth so I don't know what it is.

Just so you know, Google drive gives you 5gb free storage for docs and images, and you can upgrade to 25gb for $2.50 a month IIRC.
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Movies, you can store on Dropbox or Google Drive and moved to your device when you need them.
Music can be uploaded from your personal collection into the cloud, aka Google Music. All music you buy from the play store will automatically appear in your collection.

You can stream videos directly from Google drive, but it takes forever to buffer and the video quality just isn't there.
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I've used dropbox, it takes forever to upload movies to them. My cox isp is very fast downstream but slow upstream.
How about streaming movies from my home computer, I can do that with my iPad using an app called Air Video. It worked good with my iPad (which I just gave to my granddaughter).

Rather than 5 gigs Google docs you could do dropbox and refer your friends or if you don't have any just wait for Dropquest or try to do the HTC dropbox extra gigs OR try box.net, signed up with my iPad INSTANT 50 gigs
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oldspook said:
I've used dropbox, it takes forever to upload movies to them. My cox isp is very fast downstream but slow upstream.
How about streaming movies from my home computer, I can do that with my iPad using an app called Air Video. It worked good with my iPad (which I just gave to my granddaughter).
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Ah, brilliant! I completely forgot about that. One could stream all their media over the Internet from a home computer or something.

I stream all my movies from my NAS to my Prime. Several app's out there for it.

fenturi said:
I stream all my movies from my NAS to my Prime. Several app's out there for it.
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5 minutes before ordering the 8gb I setup Plex to do this from an old desktop pc getting content off my tv media server, to various Android phones and tablets (Acer, Asus) that are already in the house. Works perfectly on those devices, so I hope the Nexus 7 is equally easy.
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wiithepeng said:
Rather than 5 gigs Google docs you could do dropbox and refer your friends or if you don't have any just wait for Dropquest or try to do the HTC dropbox extra gigs OR try box.net, signed up with my iPad INSTANT 50 gigs
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yeah but the hinder your upload file sizes when just using the free offers, I purchased 25gbs from google just because of that, plus they are boat loads cheaper then box or dropbox
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Anther option for video streaming is subsonic, can be used for movies/music. I belive you have to donate to author for the movie streaming.

The problem with Google Music is that if you root your device and flash a lot of roms...Google music will effectively lock you out for a year...
I learned the hard way.
They limit the amount of active devices and each time you flash a rom, it counts as a new device...
IMO...Those looking for cloud music storage...Google Music is not an option for those who regularly flash roms...

joelee100 said:
They limit the amount of active devices and each time you flash a rom, it counts as a new device...
IMO...Those looking for cloud music storage...Google Music is not an option for those who regularly flash roms...
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Surely in Google Play Music in your browser under "Settings > Manage My Devices" you should just be able to click unauthorise on everything but your most current rom, yes?

rwb2073 said:
Surely in Google Play Music in your browser under "Settings > Manage My Devices" you should just be able to click unauthorise on everything but your most current rom, yes?
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Yes, but they limit that too... Eventually you will run out...

They limit how many you can delete?! Are you sure?

rwb2073 said:
They limit how many you can delete?! Are you sure?
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Yes...I just now got to the point were I can deauthorize devices and add more(I hope)...I'm being very careful because I don't want to get locked out again...

rwb2073 said:
5 minutes before ordering the 8gb I setup Plex to do this from an old desktop pc getting content off my tv media server, to various Android phones and tablets (Acer, Asus) that are already in the house. Works perfectly on those devices, so I hope the Nexus 7 is equally easy.
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I just set Plex up as well. I must say it is perfect, and will be even better when I get my Nexus! I have an iPhone, so Plex is really the perfect client. I'll use an old PC to stream all my media just like you, and stream it to my Mac, iPhone, and my Nexus! Sweet

Cloud Stored Apps

With Google Drive, we have access to cloud stored documents and files. Now it is time to store apps in the cloud as well. With the size restrictions of the Nexus 7, what better way to shut Apple and Microsoft up than with cloud stored apps. There's no need for expandable on device storage when you can simply upgrade your Google Drive plan, or whatever Google can come up with, to store unlimited apps and app data.
Join the discussion on productforums.google
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Your apps are already stored on the android market.
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I'm gonna guess you haven't thought this out much.
If you mean, no more installing apps to local storage, then that's a lot of bandwidth there to 'use' apps, buddy.
What you're probably thinking of are webapps, and those have been around for years.

Yes. Im thinking of doing away with the need for locally stored apps. And bandwith wouldn't be an issue for Google. Think about how many people are streaming youtube videos and music from Google Play. I'm sure that would be the least of their worries. All I'm saying is that cloud stored apps would kill the selling points of all the other manufacturers on the topic of expanded storage.
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reuthermonkey said:
I'm gonna guess you haven't thought this out much.
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Actually, I can see plenty of benefit for something like this. There are plenty of apps that I infrequently use, and that are small enough to be dynamically downloaded and executed as required, or at the very least archived back to the cloud and recalled as required.
Yes, you could argue that these could be webapps, but these frequently don't have the necessary system permissions to provide the required functionality when compared to a 'native' app.
Regards,
Dave
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@OP
Look up Chrome OS and learn the reasons why it failed. Therein lies your answer.
OK, a short answer: responsiveness trumps storage savings. Local apps are more responsive than cloud-based apps. QED.
There are certain software categories that are/will be cloud-based. Those you normally use, that require high degree of interaction and responsiveness, are not among them.

e.mote said:
@OP
Look up Chrome OS and learn the reasons why it failed. Therein lies your answer.
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With Chrome OS, you're talking about a computer operating system. The reason Chrome OS will fail is because people would rather not carry a laptop around that does nothing more than their tablet. Google realized that, hints why the release of the Nexus 7 and Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. The reality is that Google is moving toward everything being stored in the cloud, one baby step at a time. We can already store music and videos in the cloud from Google Play Music, and Google Play Videos. We can store books and documents as well. All of which can be accessed straight from our Android devices. We're not talking about booting up into a web browser here, we're talking about having apps cued to run from the cloud rather than fill up unnecessary space on limited devices. Take the new Batman game for Android for example. The game data is about 1.3 gb. You're using less than 25% of that while you're playing the game because there are parts of the game saved on your device that you have yet to get to or have already completed. So what's the point of that data being there if it is not being used? Another way to look at it would be apps that you rarely use. Why have them stored locally if you use them once in a while like apps that make the best profile pic on Facebook?
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>The reality is that Google is moving toward everything being stored in the cloud, one baby step at a time
Your version of reality is a bit different than mine, apparently. In my version, bandwidth costs money (not Google's, mine), much more money than additional storage. There's also such a thing as latency.
>We can already store music and videos in the cloud from Google Play Music, and Google Play Videos.
You must like playing crappy DRM-infested streaming-quality videos as opposed to fullHD ones. Good for you.
>we're talking about having apps cued to run from the cloud rather than fill up unnecessary space on limited devices.
Android has been raked over the coals for its "unsmooth" UI. Now, think of what happens when apps take a few more seconds to start-up each time.
I'm not sure how simpler I can say it, so I'll just say it again: RESPONSIVENESS TRUMPS STORAGE SAVINGS. Is that good enough, or do I need to translate it to Morse code?

e.mote said:
>The reality is that Google is moving toward everything being stored in the cloud, one baby step at a time
Your version of reality is a bit different than mine, apparently. In my version, bandwidth costs money (not Google's, mine), much more money than additional storage. There's also such a thing as latency.
>We can already store music and videos in the cloud from Google Play Music, and Google Play Videos.
You must like playing crappy DRM-infested streaming-quality videos as opposed to fullHD ones. Good for you.
>we're talking about having apps cued to run from the cloud rather than fill up unnecessary space on limited devices.
Android has been raked over the coals for its "unsmooth" UI. Now, think of what happens when apps take a few more seconds to start-up each time.
I'm not sure how simpler I can say it, so I'll just say it again: RESPONSIVENESS TRUMPS STORAGE SAVINGS. Is that good enough, or do I need to translate it to Morse code?
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agree on all points.
i dont care about Google's bandwidth, but if my cable internet at home starts getting finicky or slows down during busy hour, my apps going to slow down too?
are you insane? LOL
solomonarnett said:
We're not talking about booting up into a web browser here, we're talking about having apps cued to run from the cloud rather than fill up unnecessary space on limited devices. Take the new Batman game for Android for example. The game data is about 1.3 gb. You're using less than 25% of that while you're playing the game because there are parts of the game saved on your device that you have yet to get to or have already completed. So what's the point of that data being there if it is not being used?
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in-game experience: finish quest! yay! let's roam the open world on my batcycle to *HITINVISIBLEWALL* - "please wait while Google download this area of the map for you"
in other words; web app doesn't work. media files on one hand, such as movies or music, is GREAT for streaming. that's why Play works (to a certain degree). but games, facebook, quick office, and every other apps? streaming online? people b1tch loud enough when they have to sign-in to the internet when they want to play games (see Nexus 7 forum - app and themes - Gaming thread), and they scream even louder when they have to be connected to the internet ALL THE WHILE playing a game. you want to store some files in the cloud?
let me get this straight - i'm a cloud supporter. i do. i love clouds. most of my stuff is in the cloud or media server and i only have the 8gb version. but your idea of putting *everything* in the cloud... is about a decade too early.
maybe in 2022 most north americans will be using Google Fiber at their homes, and 90% of world's population have affordable access to considerably fast broadband, then it'll fly.

R3dbeaver said:
in-game experience: finish quest! yay! let's roam the open world on my batcycle to *HITINVISIBLEWALL* - "please wait while Google download this area of the map for you"
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OnLive.
It isn't quite there yet IMO, but in a couple of years time, it will be (or another similar service anyway).
Of course, it won't be a panacea for all, since there are always going to be places where you can't get online (either physically, or economically), but I can certainly see games architects designing more and more for a thin client "cloud" experience.
Regards,
Dave

I'm greedy and live in a physical world,,look what happened to that poor chap who lost his entire digital life when his apple account got hacked.Still don't trust having my stuff on a server without a physical back up
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>OnLive.
The bulk of a game's size is in its art/gfx assets. Larger resolution + more details = ever larger assets. It's more efficient to store (and render) them locally. OnLive's USP is that it does server-based renders, which allows any low-end device to play any high-end game. That's fine, but there is no magic, and there is no free lunch.
With OnLive, the bottleneck is shifted from the local storage/CPU to your Internet connection. The result is that bandwidth and latency are now your bottlenecks. As already said, storage is much cheaper than bandwidth. If you're buying the N7 to save money, then having to subscribe to a cloud-based game outfit to work around its limitations is penny wise, pound foolish. You're better off buying a tablet with more storage capability in the first place.
OnLive, or more generically, "game streaming," is not a panacea. Both bandwidth and latency are issues, and they can't be entirely removed, but only mitigated. Read the below for more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive#Post-launch

solomonarnett said:
Yes. Im thinking of doing away with the need for locally stored apps.
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Cool thing. That's not a new idea though.
And bandwith wouldn't be an issue for Google. Think about how many people are streaming youtube videos and music from Google Play.
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It's not Google's bandwidth that I'm thinking of. They've got terabits of bandwidth available to them, and they're more than happy to deploy more whenever they want.
Your cell phone network, on the other hand, has limited resources. From radio spectrum to tower deployment costs to backhaul to overloaded towers, the bottleneck is not and will never be Google's abilities. The realities of the market are the bottleneck.
I'm sure that would be the least of their worries. All I'm saying is that cloud stored apps would kill the selling points of all the other manufacturers on the topic of expanded storage.
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I definitely agree. But when you figure out a way to drop latencies down to 5ms over a wireless medium at 2 miles, i'll tell you a great way to have apps be stored entirely in the cloud.
Til then, you're limited by two very, very hard limits: Bandwidth, and latency.
I don't even need to mention data caps. So until things change, you may need to revise your plans or slim down those expectations until the market can make those a reality.

I think there was a similar discussion somewhere in this board.
anyways, i wouldnt agree with what you wanted still. While cloud apps are very nice to have, a lot of people have mentioned the processing speed as well.
It is impossible to beat local storage access speed no matter what kind of connections you have. Not to mention wifi/mobile connection is not available in quite a lot of places. (Heck, my basement is a deadzone already for mobile connection, although i still have wifi at home but you get the idea) Instead of paying 60 bucks for data everymonth, id rather have bigger local storage even it may cost a 100 or even 200 bucks more >_<, thats like what.....2-3 months of "cloud"?

People whine when it takes 2 seconds to open an app... Imagine downloading the app first..

Box.com - 50GB free storage with an LG Android phone promotion - Works with N4

Box.com has a promotion where they offer 50GB of cloud storage (with no expiry date, unlike Dropbox) to users who buy an LG Android device.
http://blog.box.com/2011/11/50-gb-free-on-all-lg-devices-and-new-android-features/
Turns out, it works with the Nexus 4. Got upgraded from 25 to 50GB as soon as i downloaded the Box app and logged in.
Yay!!

ap27 said:
Box.com has a promotion where they offer 50GB of cloud storage (with no expiry date, unlike Dropbox) to users who buy an LG Android device.
http://blog.box.com/2011/11/50-gb-free-on-all-lg-devices-and-new-android-features/
Turns out, it works with the Nexus 4. Got upgraded from 25 to 50GB as soon as i downloaded the Box app and logged in.
Yay!!
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The only problem is you have to use Box.

firstness said:
The only problem is you have to use Box.
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Plus the upload size limit is terrible! Something like you can only upload 100mb files!

There aren't many providers who offer large amounts of storage for free. I for one don't mind the upload limit.
Been using box for about 3 months now and I've had no issues with it. It has a decent android app too.
Plus, Titanium Backup Pro syncs directly to Box. Good way to keep a backup of your apps (Which don't usually exceed 100mb)

Thanks now I got 50gb of storage

Nice!
Just installed on my Nexus 4 and sure enough, upgraded to 50GB.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Wow....that is awesome! Thanks for posting that!
sent via xda premium with nexus 7-Xbox live-loneleppard add me

Box can give me 4343345 GB of storage but with the 100mb upload size limit I still won't use it.
Nice find tho, I had no idea.

I already have 50 free gigs from an Android promotion awhile ago. So it would be pretty sweet if I had the Nexus 4, so I could attempt to see if they would upgrade my account to 100gigs

A "friend of mine" did this on an LG display phone in a carrier store and it worked in upgrading his account no matter what phone he used. Login once from am LG phone and the 50GBs are yours. This of course was over a year ago. They could have fixed that by now.
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this didn't work for me :'(
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is this offer available outside US too?

I never had a 100mb upload issue I have a couple movies and my digital comic collection on there the comics are in a 5gb zip I'm pretty sure if you use the desktop client there are no limits

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Plus, Titanium Backup Pro syncs directly to Box. Good way to keep a backup of your apps (Which don't usually exceed 100mb)
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This. I backup all my Titanium backups to Box. Works like a charm. I don't care to use Box for anything else.

delete please

Yea free 50GB Box, oh wait I don't use box.

Backslash10 said:
I never had a 100mb upload issue I have a couple movies and my digital comic collection on there the comics are in a 5gb zip I'm pretty sure if you use the desktop client there are no limits
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Yea but to my knowledge in order to get the desktop client you will need to upgrade which isn't free.

I didn't use Box before, went ahead and signed up on my G2x. Thanks for the tip. Between Box, Dropbox, Skydrive, and Drive, I don't think I should have any storage woes. Ever.

Thanks

Sometimes it seems like Google is kicking itself in the shins... If they want to promote a product with their device, it bewilders me why they wouldn't give away Drive space