Anyone else interested in putting together a bounty for rooting this phone? I'd be willing to put a good amount of money towards it and I think pooling together would be a good incentive. I'm already missing being able to use xposed modules, plus I want to get rid of the bloatware.
I would offer money towards someone rooting the phone, but it could take literally months before it happens.
I'm absolutely fine with it taking months, just so long as it happens eventually. Even though considering the Note 4, it probably won't.
It would have to be a pledge thread and must be tracked and OP updated on a timely fashion with running total pledge. No off topic conversations at all just pledges or removal of pledges. It is a lot of work.
Keep us moderators in this section in on the loop. ?
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Have a great day!
Worked for the S5 haha. I'm down. I'd put probably $50 on root $100 on BL even though I know it's a pipe dream xD
Almost have to laugh at these bounty threads for root. You should of known buying an at&t or verizon galaxy would have a virgin tight locked bootloader. If you wanted root you could of bought an unlocked s6 or a tmobile varient. Not bashing just saying its a rerun every new galaxy release.
I'm coming from an M8 after giving up my S4 and hadn't thought to buy T-Mobile branded and then carrier unlock it and alas I am now in far too deep. Still love the phone, just Miss all my xposed modules
I'm interested in this. It's been confirmed now that the bootloader is locked. Could someone setup an official thread?
I dont know if it will help the root process but here is the info that is shown on the recovery and download menus.
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Almost have to laugh at these bounty threads for root. You should of known buying an at&t or verizon galaxy would have a virgin tight locked bootloader. If you wanted root you could of bought an unlocked s6 or a tmobile varient. Not bashing just saying its a rerun every new galaxy release.
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Truer words have never been spoken. I wouldn't expect to ever have root on an AT&T S6. Plan on staying on the operating system that you have, which may be a good thing anyway. I've had Samsung phones for a few years and the ROMS that worked best were the stock ones. Like it or not, they built the phone and the software they built for it works best.
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Truer words have never been spoken. I wouldn't expect to ever have root on an AT&T S6. Plan on staying on the operating system that you have, which may be a good thing anyway. I've had Samsung phones for a few years and the ROMS that worked best were the stock ones. Like it or not, they built the phone and the software they built for it works best.
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I agree 100% basically if you buy Samsung you should stick with touchwiz, but it sure would be nice to get a couple xposed modules, just to turn off the persistent wifi notification and a few other things.
Xposed for lollipop does not work on samsung phones atm. Doesn't sound like the dev has a whole ton of time to address. . So no rush on rooting for that.
I wish there was something like a kernel exploit so that it would be at least possible to soft root it.
Good luck. You'll need to buy an unlocked boot loader to have root nowadays with AT&T. I'm guessing it might be a bit harder to get with a Exynos processor since dev support isn't a big as SD SoCs. I'm still waiting for Root for my Note 4 AT&T model. I will never buy another device through AT&T again. But here's the hill you guys will be facing.
1. Android Exploit
2. Kernel Exploit
3. A Dev to link them together into a working package.
Now #3 in the least of them all and even that will require a talented individual or two. As for #1 and #2, well you just have to keep your eyes on websites such as http://seclists.org/ and https://nvd.nist.gov to see if any exploits are found by security groups.
Good lucks guys, I really hope to see someone stick it to AT&T this time.
I think I'm going to return my AT&T version, found out I can get a full refund, and then I'll buy the international version.
I gave up my unlimited data plan to say F.U. to AT&T and their locked bootloaders.
Leave now while you still can.
T-Mobile wants you.
Service isn't as good but dAMMIT you can root your phones. Never have to wait longer than a week for root on the TMO phone releases.
I wish I knew more about what has to be done in order to get root because as an android user I just simply miss the little tweaks you could achieve with root. I also want to get rid of this ridiculous bloatware. I don't even use instagram so why the **** is it on my phone and always asking to be updated? I just miss being able to do things like stream all of my phones audio to a dlna source to listen to my music by the pool or in the speakers hardwired into my home. I will be willing to put $30 in if we are seriously considering a bounty which I hope we do because more incentive for it to be achieved is obviously good.
Wiseor said:
I wish I knew more about what has to be done in order to get root because as an android user I just simply miss the little tweaks you could achieve with root. I also want to get rid of this ridiculous bloatware. I don't even use instagram so why the **** is it on my phone and always asking to be updated? I just miss being able to do things like stream all of my phones audio to a dlna source to listen to my music by the pool or in the speakers hardwired into my home. I will be willing to put $30 in if we are seriously considering a bounty which I hope we do because more incentive for it to be achieved is obviously good.
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Do your research before buying! It would save you all some frustration. I enjoy Samsung's take on Android, find the phone fast enough, and can disable most of the bloat and ignore the 1 or 2 apps that I cant. If root comes for the AT&T version that would be great and I'd take full advantage of that, but it's enjoyable enough without it to a lot of people, and not worth complaining about. It's not like any of this is a surprise, just do your research before you make the purchase.
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Do your research before buying! It would save you all some frustration. I enjoy Samsung's take on Android, find the phone fast enough, and can disable most of the bloat and ignore the 1 or 2 apps that I cant. If root comes for the AT&T version that would be great and I'd take full advantage of that, but it's enjoyable enough without it to a lot of people, and not worth complaining about. It's not like any of this is a surprise, just do your research before you make the purchase.
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I was fully aware it had a locked bootloader as I was expecting it and to think otherwise would be nonsensical. It's just I buy through my business as the monthly rates are cheaper so I have no option to go but at&t and this was the phone I wanted. I just think it's pointless to have so much bloat ware and a tightly locked bootloader. Not to mention I simply don't have the money to buy off plan. Just rely on Knox to get rid of someone's warranty if they root but atleast give the customer the option. Don't get me wrong I could live without it and touch wiz isn't as bad as it used to be but I love the community that comes with rooting and customization and you don't really appreciate it until it's gone. That and I also have a few paid apps that require root. I don't like talking off topic so I think we should get back to what this thread is about and seriously debate whether a bounty is worth it.
x3phyr said:
I think I'm going to return my AT&T version, found out I can get a full refund, and then I'll buy the international version.
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So I can buy the international version and that will work fully on AT&T? Is the boot loader unlocked on those? I have the money so this sounds like it may be a good option for me.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I just switched from Windows Phone ( HD7 ) to Galaxy Note. If you think the situation with updates looks any better on Windows Phone - you're wrong mate. Been waiting for Mango quite a long time - when it arrived, i had to flash a stock rom from other device cause they cut some features from it ( like internet sharing ) which are still oficially not there for some devices ( half a year later! ). There's next update Tango coming - which doesn't actually bring anything new except of low-end device support. And Apollo is scheduled for Q4 - and 1st gen devices "probably won't be getting it"
At least, with Android, you've got custom ROMs that get updated really quickly, big dev scene, the ability to install apps from all sources - and code/test/share your own apps without paying annual fee for having your phone dev-unlocked, and they don't cut features "just because there's a new device - so go buy it".
I love Windows Phone - as a regular phone. I kept waiting and waiting for changes - but the OS is still as locked down as it was in the beginning, no "not from market" apps, no drag-and-drop media, most of apps still dont support multitasking, cant even access your files, and apps from the market, believe me, are not that useful - that's why i moved away to Android.
I'd give it another thought mate - and about Note being laggy - try ICS AOSP rom, they run really smoothly.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Good riddance, bro. Want some cheese with that whine?
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007shaolin said:
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Laggy as Hell ??? what the hell ? you want to take advantage of openness of Android and still u whinin? lots of custom rom already running smooth on Note...
i m using stock LC2 n its really smooth
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I've never had any problems with Samsung's phones. The leaks provide enough of a base for us to get ICS working and Damn near perfect. I'm running an AOKP build with nearly Zero bugs and get almost 5-6 hours of SCREEN ON time per day with nearly 3 days of battery life with my usual texting and web surfing. Android is about being open, and as far as I'm concerned it is. Running ICS, I have had Zero lag, only one minor glitch (which is fixed in updated builds), better battery life than most of my friend's phones, a huge screen, and a OS that isn't crazy limited. If you change, it's obviously up to you, but I would go and test the many ICS roms out there like AOKP or ICStunner as they are simply amazing.
If you would rather have the WP7 then go for it. There's no point in us trying to convince you otherwise if you really have your mind set to it.
i was fan of android but the updates man o man do it 1 time in a month or so but every 2 a 3 day....update update....
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I got my device in december, and I've received 3 updates (maybe 4) since then. That's a lot of updates. I have no complaints. What you're whining about is not getting the absolute latest OS build right away. I'd much rather have Samsung pushing updates that make it a stable device than Samsung sending us crappy builds. That would defer me, and I'm sure many others who don't like to flash custom ROMs and such, to other devices. I believe Samsung is doing the correct thing and waiting until the ROM is properly developed.
Enjoy WM7. A lot of people seem to enjoy it! I was actually thinking about it, too, a while ago, but it kind of follows Apple's model of multitasking and that doesn't do it for me. Blackberry and Android are the OSs that offer true multitasking (webOS, too, but that seems to be dead in the eyes of HP/Palm lol).
The Note isn't laggy, Gingerbread is. ICS is silky smooth. Samsung needs to hurry up and get ICS on the Note because it shackles such a wonderful device. It's like Apple running the new iPad with iOS 3.0. Your phone is only as good as your software is, and Gingerbread is an antiquated POS.
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Sell your Note and get a Windows Phone is my advice. That way you'll be moaning in somebody else's forum instead of ours.
I've had WinMo, iPhone, Symbian and more recently Android and Google's contribution is by far the best.
SaneQ said:
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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You can use market enabler and choose tmobile profile and then you can install every us app that you want. Restart and you will be using default provider flags again. So, there is no problem.
I am using lc1 stock rom, the best out there in my opinion, everything works and pretty fast too.
WP7 is no where near WM6.5 in terms of functionality and way behind Android, IOS too. Android is the best choose in terms of functionality and practicality from all the smartphone OSes out there.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Honestly shaolin it's people like you that makes devs abandon XDA for whining about everything and everyone! Go.. get a windows phone and when you do and see how limited windows phone is DON'T COME BACK! Stay away from XDA and honestly i hope i can speak in the name of the whole community:
Don't ever come to this forum whining!
I won a Galaxy Note and honestly, i bought my SGS2 without ever had tried Android and i love the possibilities it brings me! The openess on developing!
I simply love it! Had my first chance on SGS2 and i will continue to use this awesome SO!
Please ask an admin to ban your account and go somewhere else!
Bye bye. Enjoy whatever phone you'll be getting. Just remember, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
Im not the only one
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
007shaolin said:
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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I don't get folks like you. You actually purchase a phone for what it will be, as opposed to what it is.
Do you only live in the future? Don't forget the present mate.
If you're so unhappy with the lack of updates or the speed of updates, go get iOS and WP7. No one is grabbing you by the ball-sack to stay with Androids.
P.S. Requested to mods that this thread be moved to Android General as it has nothing to do with the Galaxy Note.
Actually I dont even want an update from Samsung any more,yesterday I recirved an update for the Samsung Apps after updating it stoped downloading applications alltogether!!,
"You cant download with this email from this country" bla ..bla..there was no way Icould fix that even after signing up for multiple new accounts.
If things will look like this I rather be left along with the GB.
Moved to teh OT forum as they will advice you better on what to do about your quandary
May the trolls have mercy on your soul mate.
You have a 1.4GHz dual core phone and Mali 400MP GPU and say it lags. My friend has a Wildfire that has a clock speed of 524MHz and no GPU and even he isn't complaining as much as you. Why don't you donate him your phone and make the good switch to Symbian S60?
what is even the point of this thread? It appears you looking to justify your feelings because you read an article and lack confidence to buy a new phone without a thread of people you don't know making a decision for you.
android is great
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Hey guys.
Motorola has confirmed that the DROID3 will not be receiving official ICS.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Look under the USA section and it lists the DROID3 under remaining on Android 2.3.
Place your "DAMN IT!!!" comments here.
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I'll post here again what I posted in the general section...
What happened to the Kexec port? One core at 1.2 would be a fair trade for a new kernel IMO.
I tried the ics build that overclocked to 1.2 and the speed was nice but it used the gummy build which in my opinion is eww..they should have used the straight cm9 or preferably aokp nightly and it would have been a better mod..I think we all knew in the back of our minds even thought we didn't want to believe it d3 would never officially see ics..all the d3 ever was is an quickrelease to generate cashflow to help fund the finishing for the d4, which in my opinion should have waited til d5 lol sadly I don't think we will see a d5 as a lot. Of the makers move away from a physical keyboard.. and due to what's involved I don't believe we will ever see a fully working,hw codec working ics build
Oh and DAMB IT!!!!!
Thanks for sharing.
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LaZiODROID said:
Thanks for sharing.
And now...
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Lmao..omg..this one rings true...
Then give us a way to unlock the bootloader. Period.
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Phibernaut said:
Then give us a way to unlock the bootloader. Period.
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Didn't you hear its not moto its verizon lol right...
They will unlock it if we find an alternative way for them to rape us
I'm not a fan of ICS to be honest, but we should have the option of royally screwing up our phones at our descretion. If Verizon were to unlock us it would just bring them more full price replacement phone sales as we brick.
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They can rape me more if they unlock bootloaders. That at least be using lube..
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Idk how u guys got onto raping... nor do I want to. Lmfao.
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droidian1441 said:
Idk how u guys got onto raping... nor do I want to. Lmfao.
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You started it lol
LaZiODROID said:
Thanks for sharing.
And now...
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That's how I feel ... time to rant on twitter... or facebook
We have to get the unlocked boot loader and source since they are not doing it for us any more... Motorola please . Consider releasing those.. give us our right to update our phone by ourselves
SENT FROM MY DROID 3 THAT FEELS OUTDATED BY THIS NEWS
That was clear since D4 was made available. They must be nuts to release software upgrade for D3 and cannibalize D4 sales.
Time to move on I guess.
leobg said:
That was clear since D4 was made available. They must be nuts to release software upgrade for D3 and cannibalize D4 sales.
Time to move on I guess.
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They can however release ICS one D4 sales have gone down a bit etc.
There's hope on the horizon
DoubleYouPee said:
They can however release ICS one D4 sales have gone down a bit etc.
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This came through last night maybe there is still hope, I don't buy the fact of Google leaving motorola separate that would just be bad business.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57437738-94/china-clears-google-motorola-merger-deal-to-close-within-days/
leobg said:
That was clear since D4 was made available. They must be nuts to release software upgrade for D3 and cannibalize D4 sales.
Time to move on I guess.
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I don't really think upgrading the D3 would cut too deeply into D4 sales, especially if they released ICS for us after they did for the D4. The D4 is a 4G phone, so anyone who wants 4G would go for a D4 over a D3. The D4 is also newer, so anyone looking to upgrade that's a tech freak who needs the latest and greatest hardware would go for it (though they might in reality go for other phones, we'll just assume they're limited to the D3 and D4 here ). They're not going to be making many D4 sales off of current D3 users because we're still on contract for a good deal of time (assuming we all upgraded and thus renewed our contracts when we got our D3. I know this doesn't apply to everyone), and buying an unsubsidized phone is crazy. By the time we're eligible for an upgrade, they'll have come out with an even better phone than the D4 and we'll be going after that, and that would be what they want. If they're afraid of losing people who want a cheaper phone that's still good, well, I think anyone tight on budget would give up a few features and go for the D3 anyways, or maybe even a cheaper phone, so they're not really losing anything there. Our phone is still relatively new, so there's no reason that we shouldn't be getting an ICS upgrade other than Moto devs being lazy and Verizon having an unfounded fear of a loss of sales on a newer phone.
GO GO Samsung !!!
Thats why so many people are switching to Samsung ! Its simple, Samsung bootloaders are unlocked or extremely easy to unlock.
Can you blame them?
D3 was really a mistake. It is D4 that Motorola should have released first place. I guess that's why they released it so soon after D3 - just to address all those shortcomings people bashed the phone for.
And they are trying to put it to the grave now. I wish I didn't waste money on mine, but oh well...
leobg said:
D3 was really a mistake. It is D4 that Motorola should have released first place. I guess that's why they released it so soon after D3 - just to address all those shortcomings people bashed the phone for.
And they are trying to put it to the grave now. I wish I didn't waste money on mine, but oh well...
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What? What shortcomings? The only one I can think off is 1GB RAM. The only real shortcoming is the screen and they didn't upgrade that on the droid 4. I just saw the HTC one X this weekend and my droid 3 looks like its 3 years old. Kinda like when you use see your old phones screen after you get a new one after 2 year contract.
DoubleYouPee said:
What? What shortcomings? The only one I can think off is 1GB RAM. The only real shortcoming is the screen and they didn't upgrade that on the droid 4. I just saw the HTC one X this weekend and my droid 3 looks like its 3 years old. Kinda like when you use see your old phones screen after you get a new one after 2 year contract.
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RAM and lack of much anticipated at the time LTE radio. They didn't have better screen at the time with acceptable battery drain and price. I suspect latter is the reason D4 didn't get Razr's screen.
Cyanogen goes from from Android mod to legit startup with $7M from Benchmark
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/18/c...-mod-to-legit-startup-with-7m-from-benchmark/
Hopefully we see good things in the foreseeable future, gotta love what CM has done for all of us :thumbup:
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This guy is a legend.
Good luck to Steve... I would be willing to at least try out a Cyanogen OS phone.
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Even though I do not use CM.
I wish them the BEST!!!
I hope they become 2nd. Not 3rd
Because....
"Apples are meant for eating...period."
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Cyanogenmod was the first rom i ever flashed. Seeing it grow up kinda brings a tear to my eye :crying: . Best of luck Steve im sure it will be popular!
Does anyone else realize how nuts this is? I mean, from a back door, unlicensed, hackers, weekend project to a full fledged entity that directly competes against big name software. All for free. This is amazing and can only get better congrats to them and the whole android hacker community!
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Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
Here is the full blog by the guy himself.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter
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sauprankul said:
Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
I thought this was funny
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/Y1NNyPMMVfN
im0rtalz said:
I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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Although I don't typically use it as a stand-alone ROM, most of the ROMs I build and like best are based in CM. They have a great team and embody everything about open-source that users, devs and aspiring devs want to emulate. I think it's high time they receive the recognition they deserve and a top spot in the Android and mobile OS forum. Best of luck, guys!
Started from the bottom now he here! Congrats to Steve and the whole CM team. Reminiscing about the CM6 days to where CM is now always brings a tear to my eyes. Lol.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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I noticed all the iDevices and was very intrigued by it. CM on iOS devices? That's something I can get excited about.
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"The firm's first announced step is to improve the process of installing the software on owner's devices, which Kondik described as "hideous". A new installer app is planned to be released "in the coming weeks" on Google Play. The installer app will not require rooting the device, instead installing by simply clicking a button."
http://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/CyanogenMod:_Open-source_smartphone_OS_goes_commercial?dpl_id=785316
If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
turtleman2008 said:
my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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dude. C'mon.
Really?
C'mon.
The whole point of CM is to get closer to the stock experience. It's just that now, overlays like TW and Sense don't suck. CM is upping their ante to compete with these guys (Hence the project name Nemesis). They are introducing features like CM accounts and focal, which don't detract from the experience.
It would be suicide for CM to completely run away with Android like that.
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If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
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Looks like the installer will only work on unlocked *bootloader unlocked* and developer editions, they are hoping more manufacturers will eventually offer offical unlock, similar to HTC dev unlock I am thinking. So it isn't going to magically install CM on any device.
CyanogenMod will have its own installer app “in the coming weeks” which will be available in the Play Store. Initially the app will not install CyanogenMod on devices for which unofficial exploits were used to unlock their bootloaders. Steve Kondik (cyanogen himself if you didn’t already know) had this to say about the installer app:
The first release of the installer won’t support devices that require exploits. The long-term goal is to open up OEMs to the possibility of supporting us officially- there’s zero technical reason for these measures and the best way to fix it is to not buy these devices and speak your mind.
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It’s more important to me to work with OEMs on changing policy than developing exploits, though. And we’ll do that by creating great stuff that people want to use.
The app should work seamlessly on your Nexus device, your Developer Edition device or your device for which an official bootloader unlock is available.
Also some interesting read on focal https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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Ok.
sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
Problem solved! Mods feel free to lock this as it is now resolved!
Perfectly content to wait for bug free 5.1
Depends on what is important to you in a phone. I am always amazed to see people itching for the next update, etc, but honestly, if you always want the latest "greatest" (Personally, I cannot stand all the white in Lollipop), perhaps you will be disappointed in the Turbo. Perhaps once Vzw "approves" (like they have any power in that equation really) the update, it will be flawless, but i wouldnt hold my breath. As far as HTC goes, I can say I have never used an HTC phone with the same signal quality as its Moto counterpart. (Moto knows antennae/signal like no other) Also, If you read up on the Moto Maxx Lollipop update, it isn't too great. @adrenalyne can attest to that. Honestly, the real reason to be upset with a Turbo is the lack of bootloader unlock, as that would motivate Cyanogenmod to create a base that would translate to buttloads of Lollipop roms with the capability to return to stock KK Moto, am option you will not have once it updates as the keys do not allow reverting. Then, you would have the capability to experience it, realize it is not all its cracked up to be yet, and go happily back to where you are now. I know I went back to OSE KK happily from the best motox/droid ultra/maxx lollipop roms. the x8 architechture makes these newer moto phones amazing,(notice how Active Display does not kill your battery) but also has been the reason Lollipop has taken this long for those (msm8960dt) phones. Its hard to be patient, but I assure you, you aren't missing too much. and once you get lollipop, you will be stuck with it, for better or for worse.
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Actually, no, that's a GSM phone. If they're using the Turbo, they're likely on Verizon.
Not Motos fault
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You got all that about me from word eh?
I am impressed!
Verizon is not necessarily to blame. They have approved update for the HTC and Samsung phones. I don't know why we haven't received the update. It seems people that have it aren't all that impressed and some are unhappy. Droid-Life days lollipop is a buggy mess. But I don't think we can blindly blame Verizon since they have approved it for other phones. That said... Don't buy a phone anticipating an update.
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The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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The "it's still buggy" argument seems to be the general response when people like me are getting impatient. And while that does hold some truth, I think 5.0.2 has fixed most of the major issues. I'm running CM12 based on 5.0.2 on my Galaxy S4 and my Asus Tablet, and they both are running well now. There were some issues when the nightlies first came out, but 5.0.2 seems to be pretty stable now depending on what hardware you have.
https://plus.google.com/101651363550089117949/posts/UgxKuJxEEgo
Maybe good news? 5.1 for turbo? Maybe we get when nexus 6 is for sale at vzw?
I realize it could be untrue since it didn't come directly from moto or Verizon but interesting nonetheless.
Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Or you can believe an advertised feature of the device being "Upgradeable to Lollipop" as listed in the original press release for the Droid Turbo. (link) Moral of the story for me is not to trust OEMs when they make upgrade promises. Sure they didn't give a specific timeframe when they promised Lollipop for the Turbo, but 4+ months after official release of source code is a joke.
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Galaxy S5.
Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Are you sure? I think you are wrong.
Here's the Advanced Calling list for Verizon. LG G3 is on the list and several users got Lollipop from Verizon.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Several LG G3 users since February 23 have reported Lollipop update being available to them. NO, they were not part of soak test.
Verizon’s LG G3 Reported To Be In The Process of Getting Android 5.0.1 Lollipop Update
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ss-getting-android-5-0-1-lollipop-update.html
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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I'm not sure it is available for everyone. On further research may be a very slow rollout. But some people are getting it...
Alright, I'm not the most advanced power user, the most advanced thing I've done to this phone is use online guides to use adb to remove bloatware and bixby then use a button mapper app to use google assistant instead.
I'm sorry if you'd had to answer all of these questions before or if there was a clearly visable guide that explains these questions.
I have an AT&T snapdragon S10 5g. This is my third s10 5g, AT&T didn't allow the previous two on their network even though both were unlocked, just both were originally verizon phones, so I'm pretty attached to it.
I want to ask a couple questions about what rooting can improve, what it breaks and what are some things specific to the SD s10 5g that i will have to know.
Bootloader Questions
1. How do I unlock the fabled bootloader?
I've heard of two services that can unlock snapdragon bootloaders, sampwnd and unsamlock.
2. If anyone has used both, or even if you've only used one, which one was cheaper/what kind of price can I expect, and which one did you have a better experience with/which one was an easier process?
3. Once the bootloader is unlocked, I've heard there are "recoveries" like twrp. Is there a good guide to all of this that's applicable to the SD s10 5g?
4. Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
5. If so, what are the advantages, do I gain any features back, is it safer, etc.?
6. Would I have to re-pay those unlocking services if i unlocked it, relocked it, and wanted to unlock it again?
Carrier Questions
1. Since AT&T is really tight with what phones they allow, do they have any way of knowing I unlocked the bootloader/have a different rom?
2. If AT&T could find out, are there any horror stories of phones getting remotely and/or automatically disabled for that reason?
3. Can I fix that if it did happen? Preferably while keeping the roms and stuff but if not, can I reflash it to stock to get it re-enabled? or will I have to once again spend another couple hundred dollars to just hope to find another AT&T s10 5g or at this point, a different phone entirely?
ROM Questions
1. What kind of roms are available for the SD s10 5g?
2. Can I use exynos s10 5g roms as well?
3. Can i get better performance, better security like micro g, or battery life increases out of these roms?
4. If so, what do you recommend for each or any combination of the three?
Knox Questions
I heard unlocking the bootloader trips knox. From what I've read, this disables secure folder and other enterprise features, samsung health, and samsung pay. I also heard it can mess with biometric authentication but i can't find where I read that to be honest. I use the whole "use your fingerprint to verify your identity" in the apps where i can because its easier than passwords. It would be annoying and i would want an alternative if that was bricked, but also I might still consider rooting if that's all it breaks. If the entirety of biometrics is disabled, then I'm just straight up not doing this, It's too important to me.
1. What does tripping knox do?
2. Are there alternatives to all the features it breaks? like for example, if samsung pay breaks, can I use google pay? is there a FOSS pay service or something?
Thank you for being patient with me. I might reply with any further question I have.
Snapdragon's are notoriously hard to root. If the device is running well you have little to gain and potentially a lot to lose.
I run two stock N10+'s Android 9 and 10.
I use a package disabler, Karma Firewall and settings to optimize them. I block all firmware OTA updates. They run great and security is not an issue. Current load on this Pie variant will be 2 yo this June, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission* with minimal maintenance.
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Snapdragon's are notoriously hard to root. If the device is running well you have little to gain and potentially a lot to lose.
I run two stock N10+'s Android 9 and 10.
I use a package disabler, Karma Firewall and settings to optimize them. I block all firmware OTA updates. They run great and security is not an issue. Current load on this Pie variant will be 2 yo this June, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission* with minimal maintenance.
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Thanks for the info about a potentially system-wide adblock, I'll look into that while I'm waiting.
I understand that it runs well and "security" isn't much of an issue but I've heard so much about customizing and improving phones with root and also I'm growing increasingly paranoid about the amount of data that google alone (not to mention other tech companies) has access to, so I want to at least learn more about the process, then I'll decide whether I want to or not.
Could you go into further detail about what I potentially have to lose? I had some questions in the original post about what I would lose by tripping knox and if my carrier would care to make my phone wifi only. Could you help answer those questions? Thank you.
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Thanks for the info about a potentially system-wide adblock, I'll look into that while I'm waiting.
I understand that it runs well and "security" isn't much of an issue but I've heard so much about customizing and improving phones with root and also I'm growing increasingly paranoid about the amount of data that google alone (not to mention other tech companies) has access to, so I want to at least learn more about the process, then I'll decide whether I want to or not.
Could you go into further detail about what I potentially have to lose? I had some questions in the original post about what I would lose by tripping knox and if my carrier would care to make my phone wifi only. Could you help answer those questions? Thank you.
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You're welcome, it a cool settings mod. Kills app ads nicely and offers some protection from black listed sites when web surfing.
You have a working phone presumably with no issues. You can limit Google's data access as is.
So many "I bricked my phone" threads on XDA...
Those 3rd party online unlockers may represent a severe data threat.
Any usability/functionality consequences of rooting will need work arounds if they exist.
The knox efuse is hardware based, no way to reset it. So the any knox based features that don't have rooted work arounds will be lost permanently. If that's your primary phone you might want to consider what happens if it's off line for an extended period of time.
Using free Samsung customization themes, icon packs and the Good Lock family of apps you can extensively mod a Samsung. Many 3rd party apps that work well without root.
Stock N10+