Hi all devs,
We just released a blogpost http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/12/15/ice-cream-sandwich-alpha-rom-available-for-unlocked-xperia-phones/ announcing that we have made an ICS alpha ROM available for users with very good tech skills. This means that you should have an unlocked boot loader http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com, and have the knowledge to switch between different ROMs (read our blog post for further disclaimers ; ) ). Also, please note that the released SW is only applicable for Xperia™ arc S, Xperia™ neo V and Xperia™ ray. Xperia™ arc will not work, as it has different partition layouts.
http://dl-developer.sonyericsson.com/Xperia/ICS/Alpha/Xperia_arcS_ICS_alpha_EULA.html
http://dl-developer.sonyericsson.com/Xperia/ICS/Alpha/Xperia_neoV_ICS_alpha_EULA.html
http://dl-developer.sonyericsson.com/Xperia/ICS/Alpha/Xperia_ray_ICS_alpha_EULA.html
This is the first time we have done an activity like this and I, and all others behind this really value your feedback https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/STRJKQF. The release of the ICS alpha ROM is our way of sharing where we are with the ICS upgrade project. My team at Developer World, also published an article last week outlining the different activities we have to pass before releasing an official ICS ROM http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/12/07/ice-cream-sandwich-from-source-code-release-to-software-upgrade/. Looking at that article I would say that we are now in the Bringup phase. You will also quickly see that we have not passed certification and approval phase, since we were not allowed to have the radio module turned on. This means that you can’t make any phone calls or use Wi-Fi. However, I still thought that this will be valuable to the tech community. Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoIsNYR7XJ8
What you can do is to test ICS applications early on, and you can also give us feedback on this initiative, and what you think about the ICS alpha ROM. Did it meet your expectations? What things would you wish for. We have a link to a survey in the blog post, where you can submit your feedback. But hey, I can’t promise that we can take care of all requests, as I know you will have plenty… Lastly I believe this release will benefit the custom ROM developers so they can see where we are in our process and how we have solved different things.
Share your opinions!
/Karl-Johan “Kalle” Dahlström
Sony Ericsson Developer Program
http://www.sonyericsson.com/developer
This a great step from SE. We'll be happy to test and provide feedback.
Keep up the good work
That's awesome!
Thanks for releasing the alpha builds and supporting the modding community!
Keep up the good work
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WOOOW, SE Development Team is fantastic!
Little question:
Xperia arc not yet?
WOW! This is seriously fantastic! When you first announced you were supporting FXP and made camera libs avaiable, I thought that was amazing. But letting the community try you guys have achieved is so cool! This is the most awesome thing, I have ever seen a company do, seriously!
I have seen something similair before, where devs. make an alpha-release, and already from there, want different oppinions and built from that. Keep involving with the community SE!
FreeXperia Team want to say thanks to SonyEricsson for the great Communitywork you are doing!
Best Regards
That's nice, but I have two questions.
The final ICS for Xperia will look different, fresh, right? Becuase this one looks just like Gingerbread.
I noticed on that video, that you have to long press home button to get the list of running apps. Isn't ICS supposed to get rid of the menu button, by making it to work like home long press used to in Gingerbread?
great move from SE!!!
Hmmm what will happen if i flash this to my Play? Not the best idea right?
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Hmmm what will happen if i flash this to my Play? Not the best idea right?
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I wouldn't think this would be a good idea lol.
Anyone read this its inside the "readme" Also, if you unlock the boot loader, you will not be able to download and install the final Ice Cream Sandwich software upgrade from Sony Ericsson.
For additional information on limitations and warranty, please see the Sony Ericsson Unlock boot loader service.
Spot on SE Dev team, you guys are leading the way these days when it comes to the support for the people that people ask what phone to get, as lets be honest everyone ask's there "Geek" friends what phone to get and the love that SE gives to us just goes to show you are a company that really does care what we the users want to see in the products we buy from you.
Great Work!!!
What about Vanilla 4.0?
sahibunlimited said:
Great Work!!!
What about Vanilla 4.0?
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CM9 is the answhere.
why not arc...sigh....
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I already did mine through a comment on your blog post.
However, I will repost it here:
First of all, let me congratulate you for the effort and transparency you’re putting into this. This bridge Sony Ericsson is attempting to create in order to involve more experienced or curious consumers and developers is something that greatly makes me proud for picking your products in the first place.
Since you’ve already demonstrated to value our opinion, I hope you’ll consider mine:
Please, consider upgrading the kernel version to 3.0. The 2.6.32 you have on Gingerbread, and by looking at the demo you just posted it will also be on ICS, is severely outdated (October 2009). 2.6.32 was the official version for Froyo whereas 2.6.35 was for Gingerbread and 3.0 is for ICS. Anyone inside the kernel world knows that a great deal of optimizations separate these versions (RCU, CPU scaling, SLAB, MM, PM, …) which have a deep impact on the overall experience.
Sadly to say, Sony Ericsson competitors aren’t keeping themselves on 2.6.32 (all of them advanced to .35 on Gingerbread and probably 3.0 on ICS) and this may cause an undesirable discrepancy in experience not in favor of your products. I also know that this probably means rewriting a few libs or drivers there and there but you can’t deny it will be worth in the end.
In my opinion, the benefits of pushing the kernel version to 3.0 far outweigh the increased delay you may have on releasing ICS (1 month?). Do consider this.
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Can ARC flash this rom?
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Can ARC flash this rom?
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Can you read?!?
Great move Sony Ericsson!
Please note that you can’t use the original Xperia™ arc or Xperia™ neo, as they have different partition layouts.
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I am very disappointed!
btw great work SE!
waiting for Xperia Arc
and i hope the final version looks different, because current one looks like gingerbread
this has to be a first!!!
brilliant work SE!
kudos to u guys!
I want this hardware with cm or pure aosp software, and I'd love it if you all could share some of your knowledge:
What are the challenges, obstacles, and chances of cm on this device happening?
I don't know much about Sony and their way of locking or unlocking the bootloader, so what can we expect here?
Codeworkx praise Sony for their recent contribution to the community, can we expect this to continue?
Are there any new proprietary additions to this phone compared to the other xperia line, something new that will prevent cm running smoothly?
How are the free xperia team going with their work?
Please share and enlighten me.
Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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http://freexperiaproject.com/
dioggo92 said:
Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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http://freexperiaproject.com/
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Cool, but have they succeed with proper ports of cm to xperia, no battery issues, no camera issues, all hardware working properly?
The z has the new "dual camera thingy" (i can't remember what the press release called it) for proper hdr, and considering this is a somewhat new invention, will Sony give out proprietary sources/drivers to create open source versions?
CyanogenMod went well for my arc S, and is coming alon great for my Xperia T.
I can't imagine why the XZ will be any worse.
I think it will actually be better as the XZ will be released on 4.1, with the promise of 4.2 coming soon after.
I can't see poor development being an issue with this device.
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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So exciting! really looking forward!
cant wait to see this phone..also cant wait to see stock Android on this.
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
Sent from my Xperia S running 4.2.1 using xda premium
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Codeworkx is different from Fxp. Anywho Fxp has listed z in its supported devices now on its website so yeah i think you can count them in.
It'll depend on codeworkx if he wants to join Fxp or not. I don't have the Xperia t so can't be sure about what you asked. I'll check the thread out and let you know.
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Oh my version! Well this new group popped up they made cm10.1 for Xperia S can't be used as a daily driver as of now was just testing it they launched it about a week ago still fixing it up . Other than that i am running cm10.
As far as your questions go Sony supports developers! If you want to get cm on your device don't get it from a carrier! Get it unlocked like me unlock the bootloader and start flashing!
Xperia z shares many similarities in hardware with the nexus 4 so I'm guessing that would mean faster development. The only issue I can think of is camera since its a Sony proprietary! Like with the Xperia S. Had to wait till Fxp got a hold of a leaked beta jb driver. Still doesn't support 1080p video. But it works! On the other hand xperia T has full camera I think and cm10.1 is being worked on.
Bottom line you won't get it asap but you'll get it! Cause here is the thing Sony supports developers and stuff but mostly people go out get a Samsung or htc. Maybe that's why development is a bit slow paced.
If I were you I'd wait a month maybe? Just to see how things go over here in the development forum.
Keep visiting xperiablog.com (everything related to xperias)
And also http://freexperiaproject.com
You'll get an idea of how it's going.
Or you could get it play with the stock Sony rom! Till development kicks in Ps you'll fall in love with the media apps I'm telling you!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099499 (here's the rom I'm running right now)
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AW: [Q] CyanogenMod on the z?
For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Bin4ry, perhaps you can share some thoughts on cm on this device: Proprietary camera sensor.., battery workings, bootloader and customization, what to expect..?
Support is one thing, working rom is another. Are there any major issues to be expected, or do you reckon this will be smooth sailing? Also, how are the other sony/xperia devices running with cm now? Any big issues?
Thanks mate
I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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I covered this a few weeks ago on Google+, but mainly:
A decision was made to "pull an aries" with CM10.1. That means rebasing as much as possible onto the Mako kernel base, just like the Galaxy S (aries) family device maintainers rebased onto the Nexus S kernel base.
The bad: In the short run, when the effort is underway, the device will appear to be behind others.
The good: Once the effort is complete, it should be MUCH easier to keep the device up to date. See the original Galaxy S (aries) family of devices. You know, "the device that just won't die".
There was a pretty big influx of new developers to the platform a month ago, and some of us are still getting up to speed and learning things. For example, I've been focusing on what could best be described as "polishing" on CM10... Taking those little minor annoyances and squashing them. I'll transition over to 10.1 when I'm done. It's kind of nice that I can actually do something like this... Instead of fighting generic platform brokenness all over, I'm working on polishing up a few very minor annoyances. Seriously, my list of things to work on is "broken scaling of anamorphic videos over HDMI"... That's a lot better than "HDMI no worky" on Samsung Exynos devices.
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For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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As I understand it, the FXP builds will sometimes contain things that have yet to be merged into the main CM baseline via Gerrit.
For those coming from Samsung devices that codeworkx or I or any of the other CM people have worked on - Think of it as the difference between nightlies and the occasional experimental "test build" from maintainers. With the main difference being that FXP builds are always built each week whether or not there might actually be a difference.
(Correct me if I'm wrong here please.)
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You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Exactly, with key lime pie coming up, all we can do is wait
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I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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I'm also absolutely sure it will be smooth as nexus 4
after 3 weeks
We have everything working,... according to changelog...backlight is ok now, even the FMRadio is working now...
So Can we expect made working the last thing - CAMERA ?:victory::good:
PS: i know this is "headshot" question...but i would like to know whether there is some problem and there will be NO camera...or if i just should wait for some weeks ?
Hi to everyone outhere. Just pulled out my 4x of the shipping box, thought i'd do a little introduction (hoping it won't disappoint anyone)
My name is Rudjgaard, 27 years old Italian...compiler (developer sounds too much for my level )
I come from the sony xperia's where i worked on miui v2 & 4 and currently maintain the ParanoidAndroid thread for sony mdpi line.
I'm unlocking bl now, then will dump system rom to give it a look (though i don't expect major differences) and hopefully by the end of the week will start working for the community.
I like working in tandem with other devs, i also offer my computer for remote compiling/programming if anyone needs decent specs.
Feel free to pm me anytime for anything regarding possible projects to personal help i'll do my best to help out.
I believe this should suffice for now, looking forward to this new part of community,
Best regards,
Rudj
hi! any chance for ParanoidAndroid from sources?
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hi! any chance for ParanoidAndroid from sources?
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Well....it's my daily and only rom, i bought new phone when halo source was released so.....who knows....maybe....:angel:
I have seen many developers working for Xperia SP and I am glad many ROMS have come on Xperia SP.
The device SP and L came around the same time and I understand Xperia SP is better in few aspects but Xperia L is great too.
One thing that really to be concened about is lack of CUSTOM ROMS on Xperia L. Further to misery of Xperia L, there is still ZERO working ROM build from SOURCE till yet. NO CM, NO PAC, NO AOKP or anything till date.
No standalone recoveries either!
As you know it's almost six months since Xperia L and SP have been in the market.
I wanted to know why is there so lack of love for Xperia L from developers. I have Xperia L and I am seriously considering about selling the device and buying a new one. I feel like I made a mistake when I could buy Z, L or SP.
Any developer who could be of help to Xperia L ?
Do you consider Xperia L wouldn't go a long way in development ?
You need to speak to doomlord and offer to help with testing then you will see great things happen.......
Many devs only have certain devices, can only build, make, develop with help from testers. So to make big help offer to test,give log reports etc
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You can asking @uberlaggydarwin for that. I think it have plan to working on xperia L too later. Not for now i guess.
Do you want to know something? Before uber, adfad, and kali working in cm for xperia sp, this forum section is really bored.
Same like you i've ever thing too changed my devices.
But this forum section is changed when those guys released and published working cm10. Many devs showed up, almost all aosp custom roms is available in a few days.
So you can kindly ask them for working on your devices, because they're awesome!
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I have to agree with this. There is a SERIOUS lack of development on xperia L. I just hate to think of selling this phone, becuase I got for an fairly cheap price and it comes with great specs. I don't get why the devs aren't interested cause tbh there's not 'much' difference from SP, well there are a couple things but yeah.. this is a great device just like sp and it DESERVES to be treated just like sp. And as for uberlaggydarwin it's nice to know that he's working on CM for Xperia L, I've been following his G+ posts and he seems to be working on it at times however he hasn't got his hands on the device as yet.. so yeah. Hopefully if any TRUSTABLE and EXPEREINCED devs are interested in purchasing this phone, I'd be more than happy to donate.
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I have seen many developers working for Xperia SP and I am glad many ROMS have come on Xperia SP.
The device SP and L came around the same time and I understand Xperia SP is better in few aspects but Xperia L is great too.
One thing that really to be concened about is lack of CUSTOM ROMS on Xperia L. Further to misery of Xperia L, there is still ZERO working ROM build from SOURCE till yet. NO CM, NO PAC, NO AOKP or anything till date.
No standalone recoveries either!
As you know it's almost six months since Xperia L and SP have been in the market.
I wanted to know why is there so lack of love for Xperia L from developers. I have Xperia L and I am seriously considering about selling the device and buying a new one. I feel like I made a mistake when I could buy Z, L or SP.
Any developer who could be of help to Xperia L ?
Do you consider Xperia L wouldn't go a long way in development ?
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@uberlaggydarwin is working on device bring up for xperia L. Once that is done, you'll see Roms popping up throughout your forum.
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You need to speak to doomlord and offer to help with testing then you will see great things happen.......
Many devs only have certain devices, can only build, make, develop with help from testers. So to make big help offer to test,give log reports etc
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I am in talks with DoomLord and I hope he has great news for Xperia L members!