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is it all possible to use a portion of you micro sd card as ram on the t-mobile wing by htc??? or any phone for that matter?
I have not heard of a program to do that on any phone, even Vista cannot / has issues doing it on a lot of flash drives. I could be wrong but I have looked a little bit for one for the phone.
You can have your emails and other things automatically dumped to the card which can help keep the phone's internals clear and operating smoothly though.
Hi guys
i once had a HD7, i upgraded it with a 32GB Sandisk class 2 card. The card worked like a charm. Later i had to sell off the HD7 so i kept the card with me, safely in its own little box.
My big question is no card reader recognizes it, Blackberry bold 2 with OS 6 wont recognize it, Sony Ericsson Experia x10 with android 2.3 wont recognize it, even my cute little Motorola Defy with android 2.2.2 wont recognize it.
What am i doing wrong here? was i supposed to format it before pulling it out of HD7? Is there a way to bring it back to life?
please advise
Thanks in advance
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i am guessing you have a partition on their which is un-formatable, but you may be able to see and delete it in disk manager (in computer manager), not the same thing as right click / format. only a guess.
You are not doing anything wrong; Windows Phone 7 locks the microSD card with an encrypted passsword and there is nothing I know of that will break that encryption except for a Nokia phone with the Symbian operating system. Nothing else you put it in will even recognize the card, but the Symbian operating system is somehow able to reformat it and make it usable again.
You need to find a Nokia phone somewhere with the Symbian operationg system to reformat your card so you can use it again in other devices. I currently have two cards (16GB/32GB) that I need to have reformatted!
I've also heard that a digital camera can reformat them, but I don't know if that's true or not.
Dennis
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You are not doing anything wrong; Windows Phone 7 locks the microSD card with an encrypted passsword and there is nothing I know of that will break that encryption except for a Nokia phone with the Symbian operating system. Nothing else you put it in will even recognize the card, but the Symbian operating system is somehow able to reformat it and make it usable again.
You need to find a Nokia phone somewhere with the Symbian operationg system to reformat your card so you can use it again in other devices. I currently have two cards (16GB/32GB) that I need to have reformatted!
I've also heard that a digital camera can reformat them, but I don't know if that's true or not.
Dennis
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cheers Dennis
i ll dig a Nokia and report back the result soon
You've got to use a partition program, like partition magic...
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You've got to use a partition program, like partition magic...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you stick a microSD card that was used in a WP7 handset in a PC, it doesn't even show in Windows Explorer, does it? I know if you put it in an Android phone, it says SD card not present.
Dennis
HI guys
SWEET SUCCESS
the symbian trick worked like a charm
your a lifesaver @ Dennis
this card was taken out of a HD7 windows phone so the pc was not even recognizing it @ argentocruz
the best part is i used an old Nokia E90 to recognize and format the card, and now its running very smoothly in my Moto Defy
to anyone who has a problem - its really worth it to register on this forum and ASK
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OK, I'm out of space on my 820 because "Other" is taking up over 3GB of space and WP8 refuses to touch my 64GB microSD card.
I went through uninstalling nearly all of my apps last night, cleared maps, cleared IE history/temp data, removed facebook/twitter from accounts, and Other only shrunk down to 2.5GB.
Obviously I re-added those things and am back up to 3.0GB. This phone has 8GB of internal storage. Nearly half of the only storage WP8 can use is taken up by some "mystery data", and there's a thread on WPCentral where someone claims to have uninstalled/cleared everything and still has 4GB or so of data sitting in Other.
Anyone here have insight?
Other is the OS and its files. It needs to be stored and loaded from somewhere.
Sure, they could have a second area of flash just for that, but then it would sit there with unused space the user couldn't use as the flash would always be much bigger than the OS to allow for expansion.
Someone mentioned to plug the SD card into the phone while it is plugged into the PC via USB cable.
No, there is already an indicator for system files and it sits around 1.7GB.
Others have reported up to 8GB of usage taken up by "Other", and nothing short of hard resetting seems to clear it. The size is expanding, but it doesn't seem to correlate to any particular addition (IE history, cache, maps, etc). Unless you're suggesting wp8 just increases in size for no reason, this isn't the system.
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No, there is already an indicator for system files and it sits around 1.7GB.
Others have reported up to 8GB of usage taken up by "Other", and nothing short of hard resetting seems to clear it. The size is expanding, but it doesn't seem to correlate to any particular addition (IE history, cache, maps, etc). Unless you're suggesting wp8 just increases in size for no reason, this isn't the system.
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I didn't think wp8 supported more than 32gb cards. I have a problem with that other folder too. The thing that bothers me is the fact that this is my most advanced device I've ever owned, yet I reached the phone storage limit, which was not ever a problem with windows mobile. With wm, I could just install aps right on the SD. This would solve the problem for us. Even my hd2 (with android dual boot, then wp7.8) has way more apps and games and never saw this problem.
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I didn't think wp8 supported more than 32gb cards. I have a problem with that other folder too. The thing that bothers me is the fact that this is my most advanced device I've ever owned, yet I reached the phone storage limit, which was not ever a problem with windows mobile. With wm, I could just install aps right on the SD. This would solve the problem for us. Even my hd2 (with android dual boot, then wp7.8) has way more apps and games and never saw this problem.
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I think WP8 itself supports any size card- it IS using the desktop kernel after all.
Varying phones have different hardware support though. The WP8 Lumia line supports up to 64GB I think. I have about 40GB of music on my 64GB SD card and it's working well in WP8.
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I think WP8 itself supports any size card- it IS using the desktop kernel after all.
Varying phones have different hardware support though. The WP8 Lumia line supports up to 64GB I think. I have about 40GB of music on my 64GB SD card and it's working well in WP8.
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cool, I didn't know. I'm using a 16 GB class 6. Works great. I have full phone storage, mostly empty card. Hopefully we will get the option to install on SD. I would rather it be official, but xda is good for this sort of problem.
Ok so i've been using the SanDisk Ultra 32GB MicroSDHC Class 10 sdcard in my note 2 and when i filled it up i then went out and bought the SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS sdcard. I want to transfer everything thats on that 32gb card to my new 64gb and keep going. Obviously, ideally having about 32gb of free space when i put the 64gb card into my phone. I cant seem to get this to work right for some reason.
I took the filled up 32gb card out of my phone put it into the adapter it came with and then put that into the sd card reader thats built into my windows 8 laptop. Copied the entire card to my desktop and it turns out to be 37gb worth of data some how?? The 32gb card is using fat32 and the new 64gb card is using exfat...not sure if that matters in any of this? Then I copied that entire folder to the blank 64gb card and windows is telling me i only have 15gb of free space left on the card. The 64gb card seems to read in windows as only about 60gb btw. Where my extra 4gb? regardless...even 60gb minus the 37gb copied to the card should give me at LEAST 23gb....not 15gb. So not sure whats going on here??
THEN i formatted the 64gb card again using NTFS, added back all the copied files from my 32gb and it said i had about 20gb of space left. I suppose thats better but still not what im looking for and i read that i shouldnt really be using NTFS anyways. So then I tried formatting the card in my phone with TWRP and same thing happened as before, only showing 15gb of free space with the exfat format. I noticed in the windows format utility i can chose an Allocation Unit Size...I had left it at the default...not sure if I should be changing that to one of the larger numbers?
Anyway, I just want to transfer my 32gb card to the new 64 gb card and have about 32gb of free space on there....any help with this would be great, thanks!
It depends on a few things. First is the average size of the files to be stored and retrieved. Also the number of files to be stored and retrieved. A single file may be stored in several segments. The last segment will probably not be full, hence wasted space that cannot be allocated. Smaller segments would result in less wasted space, but more segments per file. Larger segments would yield less segments per file but more waste.
All the segments are tracked by the FAT (file allocation table). This index keeps track of all the segments on your storage device. A smaller allocation unit size (segment) would yield in a larger FAT. This will also slow down your read/write speeds. The reverse is also true.
*It has been awhile since I had studied this stuff so my FAT might be a little randomized.
I'm not sure what you go going on.
Couple of quick comments. Not possible to have more data on the card than it's capable of holding; ie 37GB of data on a 32GB card. You may have some compressed files of something, but the compressed files are still a certain size until uncompressed. So, something may have gotten messed up. It happens.
As for your new card having less than 64GB of data, that is normal and expected. There is always some space lost for file allocation tables and various other stuff needed for devices to connect to the card.
As for the new card, since it blank, best thing to do, format using your phone. It's the best place to do it. It will guarantee it'll be formatted in a way that the phone is guaranteed to read and write. And it doesn't take that long; five minutes at the most in my experience, and usually it's more around two. If your computer can read and see the formatted card, I would than just copy/cut the files over to the phone that way, and not use the card reader that came with it. It does take a lot more time, but other than corrupted files, it's always works.
If fact, I almost never use those card readers. When I get a new card or phone and need to transfer data, I just connect it the computer, transfer files over to the computer that way. Format the phone storage or new microSD card (in the phone), than transfer from the computer to the new phone or microSD. Other than a file here and there, no issues. And of those few files, it usually turns out the file got corrupted because I won't be able to open on the PC, phone, or anywhere else. And the problem files are found when transferring from the phone to the PC. The biggest knock on this method, it can be very time consuming, especially if there are bad files.
Other thoughts, I don't recall Android being a NTFS friendly. I thought it was just FAT or exFAT (I believe this is what it generally uses). FAT32 is the arguably the cross platform friendliest since Windows, OSX, Linus, and so forth and all read and write to it. It does have a 4GB file limitation, which depending on what you're using, can be a big problem, especially with video files. I don't recall exFAT file size limit, but it's more than 4GB.
Thanks so much for the info guys! For whatever weird reason it seems the exta gigs of data that transferred off the sdcard was actually files i had deleted a while back...not sure why they were still on there but my phone was reading them as deleted. Not sure why they would copy back to the computer though when i never even saw them to select.
I have several retired Windows Phone devices from family and friends, screen cracked, battery inflated, etc. Now most of their owners have moved on, and the parts don't even look useful anymore, except for one part: the internal storage. I want to harvest the SD cards from a mix of Windows Phone 7 / Windows Phone 8 / 8.1 devices.
I know that with Windows Phone 7, the file system was LOCKED in a way that not many card readers / devices even recognized. Taking an internal SD card out of a damaged Windows Phone 7 device gives a perfectly normal looking 16GB class 4 microSD card... that can not be accessed, erased, deleted, nuked, formatted, or used, by anything. I've tried countless friends phones, tablets, computers, readers, UBCD, DBAN, utilities, tools, you name it. I have also looked high and low, and have never seen one of the fabled Nokia devices in the wild that can gently format these locked-up microSD cards.
My question for this forum is does Windows Phone 8 also lock the internal SD card filesystem in the same way that WP7 did? Can I extract and harvest the internal 32GB SD cards of some Lumia 920s for use in other devices? I know that 32GB microSD cards are cheap, but that's not the point. I just don't like to see these 32 GB cards go to waste. I'm hoping that I can just take a hammer to my Lumia 920s and pry out the SD card, format it with a card reader, then drop it into my 1520, my tablet, my wife's Galaxy Note 2, etc for extra storage.
A random thought I had was: could it possibly help if I subscribe my company email to the Lumia 920 before smashing it? My company's policy enforces full-disk encryption. I'm curious if the full-disk encryption will help the card be "formattable" as I definitely won't care about the data that's contained on the card. I don't have any dev-unlocked windows phones, and have never sideloaded anything, but I would be open to it if I could get these SD cards to be useable. Some of the WP8 devices turn on and could possibly be manipulated, some can not.
Any help is appreciated!
P.S. - I also have a stash of 16GB SD cards from WP7 phones that I have almost given up on using, but if someone has knowledge about wiping those, I would love to hear it. I have no working WP7 phones, so the solution can't be from any app sideloading.
wp 7 cards can be formatted with a few old Nokias : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
wp8 cards aren't looked at all , you can just pull them out and use ( not even the need to format them.
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wp 7 cards can be formatted with a few old Nokias : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
wp8 cards aren't looked at all , you can just pull them out and use ( not even the need to format them.
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Thanks for the help, ceesheim.
Just to provide an update on this, in case anyone else gets a similar idea. So far I've taken apart a Verizon HTC 8X, and a Nokia Lumia 920, and neither of them had internal MicroSD cards. Both had eMMC implementations, which mean they are not removable. My Nokia Lumia 920 had a Toshiba THGBM5G8A4JBAIM which is a 32GB eMMC chip.
The lesson here is that microSD cards are cheap, and harvesting them from old phones is not worth it!