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ok I've voiced my opinion on android multitasking before. but this has me confused. I seem to lose RAM over time.
my setup is that I basically run my phone stock. no killing apps with task killers. I run the following services, HTC keyboard, Google finance, battery widget, Google voice/talk/gmail. that's basically it.
when I first start my phone, a bunch of apps show up running and the phone has 30 mb free RAM. over 24 hours less and less apps stay in the cache as "inactive" or "background", until only the above services I run are left running. yet the RAM stays at 30 mb free RAM still. why is this happening? I tested this out over 24 hours, but it gets to this point much sooner, maybe after an hour or so.
edit: also why can't the OS anticipate the apps I DO frequently use and keep THOSE cached in memory? literally the phone pre loads every single app I DON'T use, like Google earth, mp3 store, etc.
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
oh and I also run the xda app service too.
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In that case you'll need this link instead: http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
I'm just curious. this does kind of effect things because things like opera start to close just by switching away from it when these conditions happen. but a reboot and opera will keep my page loaded for hours.
it shouldn't matter either way, we are all trying to learn and understand how android works. and the point me this thread is I think this is a bug or a memory leak that people might not know about.
I don't use a computer ever, all phones.
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In that case you'll need this link instead: http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
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thank you, can't wait to watch there! might be what I'm looking for.
Eclair~ said:
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
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Not to be redundant but that would be the exact reason why someone would care about their RAM usage xD I actually have that problem as well. Even if I kill all tasks, my phone will lock up still. Not sure what the issue is. I feel like the older the phone gets the more it's messing up. (I have had it only for 2 months lol
I saw the huge list of safe apps to delete, and I am getting my Droid X on monday, so I was just wondering if deleting the apps causes the speed to increase? I read a lot of reviews saying the Droid X has some lag unfourtantely but does it speed up when you delete all those applications?
I have the incredible right now and use a froyo basic ROM, I turn off all animations and delete all apps that aren't necessary, I just care about the speed of the phone. Do you see a speed increase if the applications are deleted?
I don't think you'll see a noticeable speed increase. The X does have lag in some places, notably the lock screen (big wtf here), but I don't think it's that much worse than most other android phones on stock roms.
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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Ezun said:
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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The pro for all of the things you've mentioned there is that it seems to all be software related. HTC obviously has had more time to perfect Sense then Motorola has with it's new Blur-hybrid. I think once the software issues get worked out, the hardware for the X will outshine the Inc.
Just use launcher pro instead of the stock launcher and the entire system will run faster.
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Doesn't using launcher pro on top of blur make it use even more resources?
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it does, but if you remove everything off of your blur, then launch and use the other launcher it will use quite a bit more ram, (i see about a jump of 20 to 30 megs though i haven't done any precise measuring)
But I do notice a bit of a speed increase, part of the reason could be you can control the speed of the animations, and if you bump it up a little bit, even if it lags on showing you the animation it's not as noticeable because you can get there faster. (if that makes sense)
Well then if its mostly software related then I'll wait for a couple firmware updates or 2.2 before I start *****ing
ANy tips on how to speed the droid X up anyone?
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
grdm said:
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
pima said:
isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Startup Auditor - It's a paid app but worth the money.
I just tried launcher pro on top of fully configured blur and pro was still smother than blur. So since it isn't the phone I'm holding out hope for 2.2/blur update fixes this. Since that's around the corner I'll wait for it before converting to pro.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Autokiller is a full featured, free app to do this.
Launcher Pro made a world of difference on my incredible, zero lag whatsoever..
I like many people thought about getting the Droid X, i dont have a complaint with its size whatsoever moreso then other issues... when i tested the demo phone in the verizon store it seemed incredibly slow.. yes i know it was a demo phone and people probobly mess with it all day long but still it was like having a G1 all over again..
Secondly is the lack of root access.. with the encrypted bootloader it is probobly going to be near impossible to flash a custom recovery and therefor custom roms are also going to be a hassle, i love having my fully unlocked incredible with a S-Off Nand on the way.. having custom roms and overclock kernals changes the feel of the phone completely
Thirdly and last is the 2.2 update... i saw the 2.2 update news article on the Droid X and the guys Quadrant Benchmarks with it were 800 something? That seems redicilous because my Quadrant Benchmarks with my 2.2 incredible are 1400s and Linpacks are in the low 40s
Those benches are showing the droid x on 2.1, with some other phones on 2.2, which puts the droid x in the highest tier of performance. Once froyo is on the dx, youll see scores almost surely above the incredibles (because of the gpu) and very high linpack scores.
XDA App = Pwnage
Autorun Killer does the job, but you need to be rooted.
AutoKiller on the same website will help you keep your memory cleaner by automatically killing tasks. That'll improve performance if your phone is running low on memory (which can happen if all the stock processes are running).
Edit: Oops, didn't see the thread has second page
personally i rooted my phone installed root explorer renamed alot of junk on my phone from .apk to .bak. my phone is def snappier. i also turned off the animated backgrounds. i also use advanced task killer which is the main reason i started, in a sense, uninstalling apps the safe way. seeing all of those items running before i killed them was killing me. so i would try doing that and also turning off wifi etc when not needed.
May not be the best scores, but this is after renaming only a few apps.
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Blur sucks. Launcher Pro rocks... And umm... Well I prefer my Droid X to the Incredible after the mods. I have zero lag. Go me.
Hello,
I wiil start with the RAM. I've searched the forums for an answer to the lack of ram and people are saying the current kernel isn't supporting 512 ram which is probably bull**** because I saw a Desire HD of a friend, and it uses all the RAM. Other people say that the other Ram goes to graphic use, which is wierd, because again, the Desire HD has 512 RAM.
So my question is did someone knows the real answer? Because I'm pretty disappointed that I have 150 free RAM after I'm killing all the tasks, and some games are laggy from time to time (Angry Birds (espacially Rio), Fruit Ninja). Maybe we can even sue Samsung for publishing false specs XD
My second question is about the GPS, I'm using Phoenix ultimate rom, did anyone tried it with this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164 and saw better results? The GPS in this rom is better then other roms but i'm still find it unusable.
My thirs nd last question is that there's a problem I've saw in all the roms I've been using. When I call someone the volume is high for something like 5-10 sec and then become lower, and the volume in the call itself is pretty low and I can't talk in crowdy places. I know there's a method to increase the volume but I'm not sure how and which volume is recommended. If someone can explain me it will be great!
Thanks in advance, Elad!
For the first question.
first of all you are using 150 ram... rather than having that much left. and I dont think there is any rom right now for the captivate that use all the ram..
2. my phone also never gets good gps. just send it back to at&t and keep getting a new one until you have good gps.
3. i really dont know... sorry..
So you say this this it's the rom that doesn't support? It's really hard for me to believe this because there's a lot of devices that use 2.1 and 2.2 and uses all of the 512 mb.. :/
And for the second answer I'm not living in USA I bought it on ebay because its basebands support my mobile operator basebands lol
For your 3rd question, have you tried different modems?
first of all, you need to read up on how RAM is used in linux and android. free ram is WASTED ram. there are 100 threads on here about that topic alone. please search
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For your 3rd question, have you tried different modems?
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I don't know how to use other modem, is there a guide or something? How will I know if the modem is supporting 850 and 2100 (this is the only basebands my mobile operator supports.. I need them both for full signal.
Pirateghost said:
first of all, you need to read up on how RAM is used in linux and android. free ram is WASTED ram. there are 100 threads on here about that topic alone. please search
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I know what is RAM, but sometimes there are apps that uses a lot of ram like angry birds rio that when in stand-by mode uses almost 100mb ram. But it doesn't matter, if the phone doesn't really have 512mb they shouldn't write in the specs that it does.
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I know what is RAM, but sometimes there are apps that uses a lot of ram like angry birds rio that when in stand-by mode uses almost 100mb ram. But it doesn't matter, if the phone doesn't really have 512mb they shouldn't write in the specs that it does.
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when an app needs the ram it will take it. and the phone does have 512. there are numerous threads about this as well. again, search
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when an app needs the ram it will take it. and the phone does have 512. there are numerous threads about this as well. again, search
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I've searched, and I found some theories, but still I don't know what's true.
Elad92 said:
I've searched, and I found some theories, but still I don't know what's true.
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there IS 512mb RAM, but its not all usable by the USER APPLICATIONS. some of it is used by the SYSTEM to run...
there is literally a massive thread open on this already somewhere. i will find it later
here is some reading for you to do in the meantime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008237&highlight=ram
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792512&highlight=512mb
just as others have stated the phone DOES have 512mb of RAM. Just like with your computer you may have 2 gigs of RAM installed but that does not mean that you are going to be able to use all of it. More then likely several hundred mbs of that is going to go to system processes like svchost and explorer.exe. That leaves only part of that available for user applications.
As others have stated ram that is free is doing the phone no good. accesses to ram is hundreds of times faster then accesses to main memory so if a program has to load block into RAM it is going to get slowed down. Its better to just let the phone do its own thing and keep applications that are frequently used in RAM so they dont have to get loaded when needed
I have 2 captivates, the only GPS Fix I found that works, is an article that describes all the settings, and after I understood what each setting was I adjusted them to what makes sense, and it works great now. Accuracy ranges 16 to 32 ft. But none of the video's or anything other article worked.
Here is the title of the article. "Why Samsung Galaxy S i9000 GPS is inaccurate and how to fix it." It is located here on XDA-developers.
And BTW I am using the AT&T release of Froyo. Don't have a need to switch to another ROM, everything works.
Brian
Thank you, the ram questions was answered
Does anybody knows something about the other two questions?
In regards to GPS, I flashed Serendipity and its at least mostly usable now. Before, I couldn't get a lock unless I was standing still, then id lose it when I moved.
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My previous rom was Serendipity, and I flashed to phoenix few days after because of mysterious problems (which now I know had no connection to the rom). Anyway, I love Phoenix, does anyone have phoenix and can use the GPS?
In response to the GPS questions:
The GPS is designed to use the aluminum backplate as an antenna. If you have a thick case on it will work terribly. Thin silicon cases work well enough. Another thing to look at is the app you are using for navigation. Try and find telenav for the i9000 and it will work for the captivate. Google navigation will work terribly. If you have a navigation app that uses generated maps(telenav) or stored maps your GPS will be decent enough to use and will help quite a bit. Read plumbobs guide for more information in the captivate development section.
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the captivate has 512 mb ram total
much of that is hardwired for video. the desire hd if it is the same as the inspire has 768mb total so 512 is available for the system to use.
Has anyone tried using navigation with google maps already pre-loaded? If so how is it? Did it improve navigation performance? Google navigation is absolutely horrible for me. Constantly losing signal while driving rendering it useless.
Hi all,
I am curious on this matter. My tab seems to be running about 450-550 ram usage even when there is zero application running. Still on stock rom and is rooted though. Is this normal?
I think to have the bar 3/4 filled up without usage is something too much right?
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nicregi said:
Hi all,
I am curious on this matter. My tab seems to be running about 450-550 ram usage even when there is zero application running. Still on stock rom and is rooted though. Is this normal?
I think to have the bar 3/4 filled up without usage is something too much right?
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This is normal. Android keeps apps in ram even when you are not using them. Don't worry about this, Android is good at managing ram. If you want to know why it is like that, then google it and you will find many good explanations.
Android, mobile OS's in general, are use RAM in a much more efficient way then desktop computers.
Programs are kept in the RAM so when they are relaunched they can resume from the last point. When a program requires more RAM then is available, instead of throwing up an insufficent memory error like computers, it just removes the longest stagnent programs from the RAM
Hey all!! Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it and thank you. Merry X'mas all!!!
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Xda newbie here.
I've a rooted HTC one m7, but want to get the most out of it. I don't really care about my ram or bloatware etc. (Its a 32gb phone with 2gb ram, all i need for now) What apps could I find useful that aren't to do with editting speed, battery life, and all that useless stuff... For now..?
I already have sixaxis controller and screen recorder apps. But that's about it.
Help me out?
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Xda newbie here.
I've a rooted HTC one m7, but want to get the most out of it. I don't really care about my ram or bloatware etc. (Its a 32gb phone with 2gb ram, all i need for now) What apps could I find useful that aren't to do with editting speed, battery life, and all that useless stuff... For now..?
I already have sixaxis controller and screen recorder apps. But that's about it.
Help me out?
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wouldnt this be better answered in the M7 forums..not the Android Wear (watches, some tablets) section?