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[Q] TMobile or AT&T (No US)

Hello,
I did some research recently, and this caused a little bit of confusion, so I'll post a quick question:
I'm trying to buy this phone on ebay (since I don't have a US CC card), which one should I get, the T-Mobile or AT&T version?
Requirements:
- to unlock it for Europe GSM
- install CyanogenMod
As of now I was going for the T-Mobile, since I've read it's easier to unlock the bootloader, but now I see that the CM is only for AT&T phones? Or am I mistaking?
Thanks!

It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Any source confirming this?
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.

RenSoAbrupt said:
Any source confirming this?
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Yes, me. I bought a T-Mobile Moto X in November and had to choose my carrier. I bought another Moto X last week and there was no carrier selection, I only had to choose between GSM and CDMA. Both times I received an XT1053 with a T-Mobile SIM in it.
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TheSaw said:
Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
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I have no knowledge of the bootloader situation, only my experience with the purchases as noted above.
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As far as AT&T bootloader goes it is still not unlockable. When it will be? Nobody really knows if Motorola is going to add it to its Unlock program.

scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.

larry62 said:
Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.

scottjb said:
Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Maybe they were temporarily sold out of the AT&T model? There is some LTE band on the AT&T model not available on the XT1053, but if I remember that band isn't used currently by AT&T in the USA anyways. People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.

larry62 said:
...People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
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Hmm...good points. :/ I'll take my chances without the software and lock.

AT&T Nexus 6 on Verizon?

Will this work? I can't find definitive info and I'm an hour away from meeting someone to purchase

seattleweb said:
Will this work? I can't find definitive info and I'm an hour away from meeting someone to purchase
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all nexus 6 are the same. they will all work on sprint, tmobile, att, and verizon. but with sprint and verizon, you need someone to add the phones imei into their system.

seattleweb said:
Will this work? I can't find definitive info and I'm an hour away from meeting someone to purchase
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simms22 said:
all nexus 6 are the same. they will all work on sprint, tmobile, att, and verizon. but with sprint and verizon, you need someone to add the phones imei into their system.
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No, atts variant is Sim locked
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akellar said:
No, atts variant is Sim locked
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oh, thats right. but theyll unlock it for you if you pay off the full price.

simms22 said:
all nexus 6 are the same. they will all work on sprint, tmobile, att, and verizon. but with sprint and verizon, you need someone to add the phones imei into their system.
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How hard is that typically to pull off? Do you know if a Verizon store rep would be able to do that?

akellar said:
No, atts variant is Sim locked
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Supposing I can get the SIM unlocked, it should be a go in getting it on VZW then? I'm trying to quantify the risk I'll face in not being able to get it activated on my VZ account

seattleweb said:
How hard is that typically to pull off? Do you know if a Verizon store rep would be able to do that?
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the first problem would be getting att to sim unlock it. everything else would be easy. you can by a tmobile n6 and use it on verizon right away though.
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seattleweb said:
Supposing I can get the SIM unlocked, it should be a go in getting it on VZW then? I'm trying to quantify the risk I'll face in not being able to get it activated on my VZ account
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yes.

Sim unlock:
http://www.cellunlocker.net/

EniGmA1987 said:
Sim unlock:
http://www.cellunlocker.net/
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I got the Nexus 6 an hour or so ago. Went to cellunlocker.net and they are trying an alternative database. Hopefully they can produce a code!

seattleweb said:
I got the Nexus 6 an hour or so ago. Went to cellunlocker.net and they are trying an alternative database. Hopefully they can produce a code!
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Did it work? Did you sign up with AT&T?

jlegros said:
Did it work? Did you sign up with AT&T?
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I'm on Verizon, no code yet from cellunlocker.net.
This is all I got:
Code:
Hello We've processed your IMEI through our initial database and the code was not available. We have an alternative database to try.
Are you able to wait 1-3 business days? If not, I can refund your order instead. Thank you

Hey dude I just got ahold of a_t_&_t customer care and they are saying that in a few good days you will be able to sim unlock with just an email and the Imei supposedly
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[Q] Buying Nexus 6 from T-mobile or Google?

Is it better to buy the Nexus 6 from T-mobile or Google Playstore?
Any advantage or disadvantage?
Thanks.

chong67 said:
Is it better to buy the Nexus 6 from T-mobile or Google Playstore?
Any advantage or disadvantage?
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well, from tmobile its $27 a month. and from googleits pay 100% of it. but google sells tje 64gb whete tmobile doesnt.

chong67 said:
Is it better to buy the Nexus 6 from T-mobile or Google Playstore?
Any advantage or disadvantage?
Thanks.
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Google
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Its the same exact model as on T-mobile store or website right?

chong67 said:
Its the same exact model as on T-mobile store or website right?
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yup :good:

simms22 said:
well, from tmobile its $27 a month. and from googleits pay 100% of it. but google sells tje 64gb whete tmobile doesnt.
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T-Mobile does sell the 64GB version. I purchased one through them.
If you want to pay for the whole phone all at once (or want a white Nexus 6), go through Google. If not, go through T-Mobile. It will be carrier locked until it's payed off.

drkboze said:
T-Mobile does sell the 64GB version. I purchased one through them.
If you want to pay for the whole phone all at once (or want a white Nexus 6), go through Google. If not, go through T-Mobile. It will be carrier locked until it's payed off.
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i bought mine via tmobile, they are not carrier locked. only att bought nexus 6 are carrier locked.

chong67 said:
Its the same exact model as on T-mobile store or website right?
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Firmware is different, no images available for ta mobile and from Google there is.
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drkboze said:
T-Mobile does sell the 64GB version. I purchased one through them.
If you want to pay for the whole phone all at once (or want a white Nexus 6), go through Google. If not, go through T-Mobile. It will be carrier locked until it's payed off.
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Yup got mine from T-Mobile on release date but firmware is different, no images for T-Mobile version available but for Google there is.

simms22 said:
i bought mine via tmobile, they are not carrier locked. only att bought nexus 6 are carrier locked.
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Neat! I didn't know that, thanks
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Knight-Rider said:
Firmware is different, no images available for ta mobile and from Google there is.
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Yup got mine from T-Mobile on release date but firmware is different, no images for T-Mobile version available but for Google there is.
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This may be, but the images provided by Google will work with T-Mobile. Not sure what will happen when (*if) T-Mobile gives us Wifi calling..

drkboze said:
Neat! I didn't know that, thanks
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This may be, but the images provided by Google will work with T-Mobile. Not sure what will happen when (*if) T-Mobile gives us Wifi calling..
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Are you 100%? So you're saying I can flash 5.1 image from U.S.A. Playstore version on my T-Mobile version? That doesn't sound right.

Knight-Rider said:
Are you 100%? So you're saying I can flash 5.1 image from U.S.A. Playstore version on my T-Mobile version? That doesn't sound right.
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Yep. Basically the only difference is the radio. The T-Mobile version uses 95R. The others use 98R. You can flash whichever radio, one may work better than the other for you.

drkboze said:
Yep. Basically the only difference is the radio. The T-Mobile version uses 95R. The others use 98R. You can flash whichever radio, one may work better than the other for you.
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Odd because I tried using Wugfresh's root toolkit and it failed.

drkboze said:
Yep. Basically the only difference is the radio. The T-Mobile version uses 95R. The others use 98R. You can flash whichever radio, one may work better than the other for you.
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This is slightly incorrect. The only build that has the 98 radio is LMY47E. This is the build that was pre-installed on models purchased directly from Verizon. All other builds have the 95 radio at the moment.

drkboze said:
Yep. Basically the only difference is the radio. The T-Mobile version uses 95R. The others use 98R. You can flash whichever radio, one may work better than the other for you.
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only E uses 98r, all the others use the 95r radio.

[HELP]What is the differents between Nexus 6Verizon and Normal

I am going to buy nexus 6 verizon,but i am afraiding because ı dont know whats the differents of each other phones?Can ı download normal nexus 6 roms to my nexus 6 verizon?And what about update dates?please help...

Nothing. Yes.

askerenos said:
I am going to buy nexus 6 verizon,but i am afraiding because ı dont know whats the differents of each other phones?Can ı download normal nexus 6 roms to my nexus 6 verizon?And what about update dates?please help...
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The Nexus 6 is the same on all carriers. The only noticeable difference is the AT&T variant is Sim locked to AT&T. The only difference in Nexus 6 devices is the domestic and international models.

askerenos said:
I am going to buy nexus 6 verizon,but i am afraiding because ı dont know whats the differents of each other phones?Can ı download normal nexus 6 roms to my nexus 6 verizon?And what about update dates?please help...
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The only real difference is that the Verizon branded N6's IMEI is whitelisted on their (VZW) system. Means that you can get a SIM from them without problem, and that you will get your BYOD discount on Edge (if you pay full price).

Evolution_Freak said:
The Nexus 6 is the same on all carriers. The only noticeable difference is the AT&T variant is Sim locked to AT&T. The only difference in Nexus 6 devices is the domestic and international models.
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cam30era said:
The only real difference is that the Verizon branded N6's IMEI is whitelisted on their (VZW) system. Means that you can get a SIM from them without problem, and that you will get your BYOD discount on Edge (if you pay full price).
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So i can use this phone in Turkey?(nexus 6 wasnt realesed for us)One more question,can i download/setup same roms or another development thing with the normal?

askerenos said:
So i can use this phone in Turkey?(nexus 6 wasnt realesed for us)One more question,can i download/setup same roms or another development thing with the normal?
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You can use it in Turkey, but most likely you will not be able to connect to LTE. The US carriers use different bands for LTE vs the rest of the world. I'd suggest that you would be better off with the 1100 "world" model.
Edit: but the 1100 won't connect to LTE in the US. So you will have to decide where LTE service is most important. US or the rest of the world. Unfortunately, you can't have both.

askerenos said:
So i can use this phone in Turkey?(nexus 6 wasnt realesed for us)One more question,can i download/setup same roms or another development thing with the normal?
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I'm afraid I can't answer that, as I am in the USA. I would suggest you ask your cellular provider first. I would say that you would most likely need the international model as it has the hardware needed for the signals used in that market. XT1100 is the model number.

Evolution_Freak said:
I'm afraid I can't answer that, as I am in the USA. I would suggest you ask your cellular provider first. I would say that you would most likely need the international model as it has the hardware needed for the signals used in that market. XT1100 is the model number.
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You can use it in Turkey, but most likely you will not be able to connect to LTE. The US carriers use different bands for LTE vs the rest of the world. I'd suggest that you would be better off with the 1100 "world" model.
Edit: but the 1100 won't connect to LTE in the US. So you will have to decide where LTE service is most important. US or the rest of the world. Unfortunately, you can't have both.
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How can i buy the international version of Nexus 6?

askerenos said:
How can i buy the international version of Nexus 6?
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Amazon.com
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askerenos said:
How can i buy the international version of Nexus 6?
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PM @falco69
He got an XT1100 by mistake. Maybe he'll sell it to you.

cam30era said:
Amazon.com
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Is it first hand?I mean,is it comes us with never used?

askerenos said:
Is it first hand?I mean,is it comes us with never used?
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Yes. > http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-XT1100-Unlocked-Android-Smartphone/dp/B00OTAQZ38

cam30era said:
Yes. > http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-XT1100-Unlocked-Android-Smartphone/dp/B00OTAQZ38
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Thanks for everything,i'll take a look

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Thanks for everything,i'll take a look
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Welcome. FWIW: there's a button for that.

6T on Verizon not only compatible but certified?!? This could be huge!

Original article:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/364412/oneplus-6t-phone-may-work-on-verizon
Even further confirmation:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/364575/oneplus-6t-will-work-on-verizon
My family will probably get 3 or more of these now if this holds true!!!

This is the best news I've heard all week! Was really contemplating switching to T-Mobile and now I'm so glad I don't have to haha. Thanks for sharing!

does it have all the bands though? it is tempting to try

oneandroidnut said:
does it have all the bands though? it is tempting to try
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It is LTE only. It's also BYOD.

RRSpikes said:
It is LTE only. It's also BYOD.
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all LTE bands though? and thats fine i will swap note 9 to opo and be fine

oneandroidnut said:
all LTE bands though? and thats fine i will swap note 9 to opo and be fine
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OPO website for the 6T says it supports: Verizon Wireless 2/4/5/13/46/48/66
I am on VZW as well and i am excited to see this work on their network.

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all LTE bands though? and thats fine i will swap note 9 to opo and be fine
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My brother and parents have been asking me this also. Before the 6T OnePlus was missing band 13 to be fully functional on Verizon, so the answer was no.
The answer is now yes, the 6T will have the necessary LTE bands to function on Verizon. It wouldn't have been certified by them as a BYOD otherwise.

Looks like the 6T also has CDMA bands 0 and 1, so should support legacy 3G connections for Verizon as well!

planedoc said:
OPO website for the 6T says it supports: Verizon Wireless 2/4/5/13/46/48/66
I am on VZW as well and i am excited to see this work on their network.
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yeah i saw that but friend told me somebody that had hands on said only had band 13 which makes no sense to me
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My brother and parents have been asking me this also. Before the 6T OnePlus was missing band 13 to be fully functional on Verizon, so the answer was no.
The answer is now yes, the 6T will have the necessary LTE bands to function on Verizon. It wouldn't have been certified by them as a BYOD otherwise.
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Yes yes i need to get one and try it!

I agree..no sense, why do half-assed network compatibility if its capable of all bands. Ill' test it out during the 15 day return window.

I will be picking one up as soon as I get the money from selling my Note 9. Will be nice to have a phone on Verizon again that has an unlockable bootloader.

nrage23 said:
I will be picking one up as soon as I get the money from selling my Note 9. Will be nice to have a phone on Verizon again that has an unlockable bootloader.
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You can get n9600 note 9 and have unlocked bootloader
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oneandroidnut said:
You can get n9600 note 9 and have unlocked bootloader
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You have to do a bit to get the N9600 to work on Verizon and the 6t will work out of the box. Also will be nice to have all that screen without having curved edges.

nrage23 said:
You have to do a bit to get that to work on Verizon and the 6t will work out of the box. Also will be nice to have all that screen without having curved edges.
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No you don't. It doesn't matter if 6t is bootloader unlocked. You can now just put in the vzw sim and it will have full lte and volte.

harpin14789 said:
No you don't. It doesn't matter if 6t is bootloader unlocked. You can now just put in the vzw sim and it will have full lte and volte.
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Was talking about the N9600 not the 6t. Sorry for the confusion. Will edit the post.

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Was talking about the N9600 not the 6t. Sorry for the confusion. Will edit the post.
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Ah. Sorry about that. :highfive:

Fully Certified
https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/device-showcase/device/8763

Does Verizon wifi calling work?

Not working for me. Just phone calls. Sms is broke, and vzw can't add the imei to database. They say its incompatible.

I got a tier 2 tech person who turned of CDMA_LESS provisioning and turned it back on. Rebooted phone and all works as it should. Got great LTE speeds as well. I have not found any Wifi calling settings.