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What is your first impressions after unboxing and setting up your new awesome S5?
Mine just walked in from FedEx... updates coming!
First thought why am I going to give up my unlocked Tmobile Note 3 for this.... more thoughts coming after I use it for a while.
After using my HTC One M8 for a week.. It's kinda hard to like the feel of Galaxy S5. Plus kinda disappointed "Download Booster" isn't here
YoungAceAtlanta said:
After using my HTC One M8 for a week.. It's kinda hard to like the feel of Galaxy S5. Plus kinda disappointed "Download Booster" isn't here
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yeah...the M8 is a very nice phone. Now go outside and take some pictures with both phones. No editing no nothing take the exact same pictures. The view them on your computer.....you will see the difference.
jamezr said:
yeah...the M8 is a very nice phone. Now go outside and take some pictures with both phones. No editing no nothing take the exact same pictures. The view them on your computer.....you will see the difference.
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"go outside" being key words.. m8 takes great pics inside.but cant crop pics, or you will run out of pixels. its a give and take i guess
That's the only problem with the M8 is the camera
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That's the only problem with the M8 is the camera
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And slower RAM and slower charging rate and slower processor clock speed and not being as water resistant and and and the list can go on for quite some time.
BUT, the M8 has no boot loader issue to worry about.
And don't need to worry about root getting taken away with each new Android update that comes along.
I would not upgrade my unlocked S4 for an M8.
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And slower RAM and slower charging rate and slower processor clock speed and not being as water resistant and and and the list can go on for quite some time.
BUT, the M8 has no boot loader issue to worry about.
And don't need to worry about root getting taken away with each new Android update that comes along.
I would not upgrade my unlocked S4 for an M8.
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'Slower' RAM and 'slower' processor clock speed will hardly make a perceivable difference in usage. Anything beyond that is placebo. Water resistant is not even a feature to be considered while comparing M8 to S5. People have been using phones for many years without taking them near water or dropping them in water.
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'Slower' RAM and 'slower' processor clock speed will hardly make a perceivable difference in usage. Anything beyond that is placebo. Water resistant is not even a feature to be considered while comparing M8 to S5. People have been using phones for many years without taking them near water or dropping them in water.
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I disagree with everything you said, except the CPU.
I had the M8 for a week and I'm happily switching to the S5. Maybe I'm a Sammy guy I'm not sure. I loved the M8 and almost everything about it but I just couldn't "fall in love" with it. I was disappointed with the camera overall. I found more uses with the S5 package. The fingerprint scanner(works very well), bigger screen(without the onscreen buttons), more vivid display, in hand feeling(yes the M8 is built great but awkward to use at times), the camera(I have kids and actually print photos from my phone) and finally use with the Gear 2. I'm a watch guy and really liked the Galaxy Gear.
I've had the M8, G2, Note 3, One and Nexus 5 so I have a good sampling size. (yes I have a problem, don't make fun)
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I had the M8 for a week and I'm happily switching to the S5. Maybe I'm a Sammy guy I'm not sure. I loved the M8 and almost everything about it but I just couldn't "fall in love" with it. I was disappointed with the camera overall. I found more uses with the S5 package. The fingerprint scanner(works very well), bigger screen(without the onscreen buttons), more vivid display, in hand feeling(yes the M8 is built great but awkward to use at times), the camera(I have kids and actually print photos from my phone) and finally use with the Gear 2. I'm a watch guy and really liked the Galaxy Gear.
I've had the M8, G2, Note 3, One and Nexus 5 so I have a good sampling size. (yes I have a problem, don't make fun)
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I have had the G2, M7, S4, N5 and now the M8, personally I find the S5 a complete turn off due to its locked down nature that alone made my decision to use an upgrade on the M8, only way I consider a S5 is if its reasonably priced on Play store as GPE..but that's just my personal preference. I'm sure the S5 will sell tons and is a good phone, I just cant deal with a locked down phone, not to mention the price premium of the base 16gb over a m8 that comes standard with 32.
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'Slower' RAM and 'slower' processor clock speed will hardly make a perceivable difference in usage. Anything beyond that is placebo. Water resistant is not even a feature to be considered while comparing M8 to S5. People have been using phones for many years without taking them near water or dropping them in water.
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Water damage is probably the most likely cause of a broken device. Broken screens can usually be replaced for cheap and a relatively easy DIY. Fixing a water damaged device, on the other hand, can be expensive and hard to do...if at all. I don't know about you, but the fact that I will never have to worry about water with the S5 is a great selling point.
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I have had the G2, M7, S4, N5 and now the M8, personally I find the S5 a complete turn off due to its locked down nature that alone made my decision to use an upgrade on the M8, only way I consider a S5 is if its reasonably priced on Play store as GPE..but that's just my personal preference. I'm sure the S5 will sell tons and is a good phone, I just cant deal with a locked down phone, not to mention the price premium of the base 16gb over a m8 that comes standard with 32.
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I can't disagree with you at all on either issue. I'm very disappointed that it is locked down. I managed to work around that on my Note to get what I needed so hopefully it will be the same on the S5 or it will be a short run.
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I have had the G2, M7, S4, N5 and now the M8, personally I find the S5 a complete turn off due to its locked down nature that alone made my decision to use an upgrade on the M8, only way I consider a S5 is if its reasonably priced on Play store as GPE..but that's just my personal preference. I'm sure the S5 will sell tons and is a good phone, I just cant deal with a locked down phone, not to mention the price premium of the base 16gb over a m8 that comes standard with 32.
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Agree 1,000%. The One M8 being so developer friendly is a major selling point, and worthy of supporting HTC the underdog, you can have a stock ROM, a Tweaked Sense 6 ROM, or a GPE ROM, different kernels for OC the processor, or underclock it. HTC allows pretty much total control of the One M8 is you want.
Samsung + U.S. Carriers = Nazis, locking it down tight, zero control of your phone. Juts root at best, to do cosmetic tweaks.
Is the S5 better than the One M8 ? Yeah, maybe, but not by much. The M8 does have the better battery life, which to me is #1 most important. But the S5 is waterproof, it has a brighter screen, well that's about it.
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Agree 1,000%. The One M8 being so developer friendly is a major selling point, and worthy of supporting HTC the underdog, you can have a stock ROM, a Tweaked Sense 6 ROM, or a GPE ROM, different kernels for OC the processor, or underclock it. HTC allows pretty much total control of the One M8 is you want.
Samsung + U.S. Carriers = Nazis, locking it down tight, zero control of your phone. Juts root at best, to do cosmetic tweaks.
Is the S5 better than the One M8 ? Yeah, maybe, but not by much. The M8 does have the better battery life, which to me is #1 most important. But the S5 is waterproof, it has a brighter screen, well that's about it.
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No, not "maybe". It is better than the M8 in every category. Also, the M8 does not have better battery life than the S5. It has been proved many times now the S5's battery edges past the M8's. Not to mention, the obvious removable battery option. And there are many other things that are better with the S5 that you may not find "useful", but many others would.
Just because you prefer one device over the other doesn't magically make the other less better. Any way you cut it, the S5 is the better device. Plain and simple. After that, it just comes down to what the user prefers over the other and which compromises they're willing to make over the other. You pick the M8, you lose removable battery, better display, water resistant, etc...but gain developer friendly, metal body, etc. You pick the S5, you lose metal body, less developer friendly, etc. It's a trade-off either way.
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No, not "maybe". It is better than the M8 in every category. Also, the M8 does not have better battery life than the S5. It has been proved many times now the S5's battery edges past the M8's. Not to mention, the obvious removable battery option. And there are many other things that are better with the S5 that you may not find "useful", but many others would.
Just because you prefer one device over the other doesn't magically make the other less better. Any way you cut it, the S5 is the better device. Plain and simple. After that, it just comes down to what the user prefers over the other and which compromises they're willing to make over the other. You pick the M8, you lose removable battery, better display, water resistant, etc...but gain developer friendly, metal body, etc. You pick the S5, you lose metal body, less developer friendly, etc. It's a trade-off either way.
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Battery Life
http://anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/5
The Galaxy S 5 falls behind the new HTC One M8 by a little bit, for battery life, especially if you consider the smaller capacity battery.
As far as hardware goes, the two phones, M8 and S5 share pretty much identical internals, so performance is neck and neck equal, trading blows. I agree the S5 has the brighter screen, that is better than the M8, and the S5 is waterproof, the M8 is not. Sense 6 is less bloated of a skin compared to the heavy Touchwiz. And I don't need a heart rate monitor on my cellphone, or do magic air gestures either.
End of the day, the two phones are super close in performance and battery department. I just prefer the open nature and developer friendly M8 that I can tweak to my hearts desire, over a locked down, anti-developer phone.
Thought this is a first impressions thread. Not a S5 versus HTC m8. I would like to hear about the S5.
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After using my HTC One M8 for a week.. It's kinda hard to like the feel of Galaxy S5. Plus kinda disappointed "Download Booster" isn't here
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Download booster is coming in a update we are getting in about 4 weeks.
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Any early owners know if the always listening S Voice or Google Now works with the screen off like the Moto X?
Just one month til I can upgrade!
Despite every single phone that has came out in the history of cellular phones, not once has a "perfect" phone been created. The logic that people use the majority of the time for holding off on the latest flagship is ALWAYS flawed.
What people need to realize is that its pointless to wait for the next big thing when it comes to cell phones. The features that cell phones have are a matter of designer preference, with input from the population. The problem is that just like anything else, there's going to be a majority, and a minority. The majority get their features, the minority doesn't. People tend to be so hard on these manufacturers for design choices, spec choices, etc., but what they don't understand, you can't please everyone, so why are you expecting them to?
If you are due for an upgrade, and this phone is somewhat appealing to you, just buy it. Spare yourself the months of bitxhing about your current phone while you wait for a new phone. Because I guarantee that when that phone comes out that you think is perfect, a better phone will come out 3-6 months later, and you'll be kicking yourself for jumping the gun.
At the current rate technology is evolving, there is no sense in "waiting around" for a better phone, because there's always going to be a better phone. Get it?
Those who are getting the Note 4, enjoy. You're going to own a powerhouse of a phone.
Galaxy note2 was, and is, a perfect phone.
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Galaxy note2 was, and is, a perfect phone.
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Please provide me with facts to back this up? Facts that won't be contested by anyone. I'm waiting.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no way to factually prove an opinion. You can only provide evidence to support your opinion. I tell my wife that I'm the perfect man. I even give her evidence but at the end of the day she points out that everyone is entitled to their opinions. It's just that mine happen to be wrong.
yup..the new nexus is coming..next year we will have the s6, g4 and god knows what else
There is ALWAYS a better tech phone coming soon.
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
hello00 said:
yup..the new nexus is coming..next year we will have the s6, g4 and god knows what else
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Try the iPhone 7 :laugh:
6s users will be like, wtf, I should have waited :good:
Then the 7s comes, 7 users will be like,"Man! I should have waited!".
It's a never-ending struggle
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Try the iPhone 7 :laugh:
6s users will be like, wtf, I should have waited :good:
Then the 7s comes, 7 users will be like,"Man! I should have waited!".
It's a never-ending struggle
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yup..im getting the note 4 this friday..if the nexus x seems better i will exchange it until another new phone comes out..trying to keep up with the technology :good:
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yup..im getting the note 4 this friday..if the nexus x seems better i will exchange it until another new phone comes out..trying to keep up with the technology :good:
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I'm rocking a Galaxy Nexus. Just a hunch that the Note 4 is a worthy improvement
I trialed using my galaxy nexus in the interim waiting on Note 4 to arrive (sold off my Note 3 early)....I lasted about 3 days before I decided I couldn't handle that old thing. Definitely time to upgrade.
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I'm rocking a Galaxy Nexus. Just a hunch that the Note 4 is a worthy improvement
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Lol absolutely. This phone has the best hardware I've ever used. And no doubt the software will get better. And i hope that comes soon with custom recovery being cooked up. I am getting a significant amount of lag. It's bad. I've wiped once and disabled S-voice yet still it lags 10-20% of the time. Especially when using keyboard ( tested on multiple keyboards) There is no way I'm the only one experiencing this lol if anyone has any tips...Please share with me.
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I'm rocking a Galaxy Nexus. Just a hunch that the Note 4 is a worthy improvement
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if u are coming from a nexus, why arent u waiting for the new nexus?
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I trialed using my galaxy nexus in the interim waiting on Note 4 to arrive (sold off my Note 3 early)....I lasted about 3 days before I decided I couldn't handle that old thing. Definitely time to upgrade.
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In my opinion, it's one of the older ones that still runs decently. Most likely due to all the support from Google.
True the tech is evolving so much, there is a 'better' phone every 2 months. But that doesn't mean note 4 will be classified as old anytime soon. And by the time it does, i am sure most of the people have already switched/thinking about switching their phone.
And I am gonna upgrade from galaxy ace..so a very big upgrade for me:. Maybe my tab will be left almost unused now
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if u are coming from a nexus, why arent u waiting for the new nexus?
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I am pretty business oriented nowadays, and I've always liked the old palm pilots. I'm getting this phone for it's display size and stylus..and, because my Gnex only holds a charge for 10-12 hours tops.
I pretty much agree. If it ain't the camera, it's the battery life, so on and so forth.
Folks have to live with compromise, no way around it. You can wait for the next best one that will upgrade something but you will still live with compromises.
Bruce lee roy said:
Galaxy note2 was, and is, a perfect phone.
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yep i agree. the only reason that i am thinking of getting the note 4 (on pre-order as I have until tomorrow to decide) is because of the Samsung promotion. i might as well get value for my htc sensation (current trade in value is $11) and there will come a time when my note 2 becomes non-functional
I think we've reached a point now where the marginal improvement is going to be lower for each generation.
Moore's Law has ended. The cost per transistor for SOCs is lowest at 28nm. 20nm will mean higher costs per transistor. At the same time, the marginal performance gain per node will probably drop, while the capital costs for the next node are rising. EUV and 450mm wafers are problem plagued. This in turn, limits performance potential. That means only architectural improvements are possible. Perhaps they could make bigger dies, although this might cost more. That said, with margins for smartphones still high at the high end, large dies might be practical.
Cameras are probably at their limit now for reasons of physics. Only way to make them better is to make them bigger, which is what Nokia has done. It will never rival a DSLR though.
There's limited room for improvement in terms of performance too because of heat and battery life.
On that note, one area for potential improvement might be battery life. It will mean transitioning from lithium ion batteries though.
Speakers might be an area for improvement for Samsung (something like what HTC has done), but otherwise there's limited room for improvement.
Internal storage may benefit from 3D NAND, but it seems like SSDs progress is slowing, so it's inevitable that phone progress in this front will too. SD cards will also be affected.
We will probably see some improvement in terms of display technology. Amoled is now high end a pixel density that the Pentile is not a drawback, and perhaps the Blue subpixel will be given more life. Perhaps we will see better daylight visibility too and more efficient Amoled technology. This might improve battery life somewhat. Otherwise, we are near a very good display - high enough PPI not to be annoying, bright enough to be relatively visible in sunlight (according to Displaymate), well calibrated, and with lower power consumption then the previous generation.
64 bit processing might lead to more performance and take advantage of a lot of RAM. It'll be a while though before software takes advantage of it. Heck, most mobile software cannot yet take advantage of all 4 cores on a phone.
I could see some things like water proofing get added as well. But beyond that, what else is there on the horizon?
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Galaxy note2 was, and is, a perfect phone.
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I agree to an extent. Perhaps in its day it was arguably the best phone that could have been realistically been built.
Amoled was pretty good for its day, especially in movie mode and the Pentile because it was partial RGB, was not a huge issue despite the low pixel density
Good camera, with only the Nokia camera phones coming out on top
Pretty good battery life Wolfson DAC, providing very high quality audio out
Pretty good speakers
Exynos SOC was the best for its day, although Apple did with its PowerVR series have a stronger GPU
Qualcomm radio was pretty good at holding a signal, as was quality of call.
Only flaw was that Samsung did not release full documentation. The Exynos problems have hampered AOSP development.
No other major flaws (ex: like the Galaxy S and the GPS problem).
For it's day, it was perhaps the best phone that could have been made.
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Lol absolutely. This phone has the best hardware I've ever used. And no doubt the software will get better. And i hope that comes soon with custom recovery being cooked up. I am getting a significant amount of lag. It's bad. I've wiped once and disabled S-voice yet still it lags 10-20% of the time. Especially when using keyboard ( tested on multiple keyboards) There is no way I'm the only one experiencing this lol if anyone has any tips...Please share with me.
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You aren't running xposed and are rooted by any chance?
If so install Wanam Exposed and tick the box in the advanced section to fix S-Health, that fixed my lag issues
Just restored my iphone 5 to factory defaults and got it unlocked from AT&T. Now it's time to list it on eBay and wait impatiently for my note 4 to arrive tomorrow! The whole waiting for a better phone, that's why I did the Next 12 plan with AT&T, cause I just might want a new one in a year.
Going to give it a week - this doesn't feel like something worth 300 bucks when compared to the note 4 I got for free!! (99 dollar bill credit + 189 for the 10 dollar recycled phone)....
Things don't seem to be happening much on the EDGE part of the phone I know I'm overly picky
Anyone else with me?
I have both the Note 4 and just received the S6 Edge this morning. The Note 4 is being sold. No regrets. After using the Edge since this morning the Note 4 feels very cheap. Also the Note 4 (Verizon) feels so sluggish and laggy versus the zippy S6.
Please report if the cellular standby battery drain issue is present in the verizon edge. Also does the phone properly deep sleep?
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I have both the Note 4 and just received the S6 Edge this morning. The Note 4 is being sold. No regrets. After using the Edge since this morning the Note 4 feels very cheap. Also the Note 4 (Verizon) feels so sluggish and laggy versus the zippy S6.
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Totally agree with the zippy part of this post. I just can't seem to deal with the smaller screen I guess.
I had the Note 4, Note Edge and now o have the S6 Edge. They are all great phones but the S6 Edge feels so much superior in every way. Speed, overall quality of the phone and the camera is just killer. When you compare the displays of all these phones the S6 Edge display it's just om another level.
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Please report if the cellular standby battery drain issue is present in the verizon edge. Also does the phone properly deep sleep?
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After playing with it since charging it this afternoon, cell standby is my biggest battery user at 15% :/
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After playing with it since charging it this afternoon, cell standby is my biggest battery user at 15% :/
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You probably need to close all the useless apps and disable them before getting a better indication of battery. Unless you have already done so, and I'm just tripping. It's really a shame that Samsung shoved more bloatware into the device than stuffing into a Thanksgiving turkey.
having a Note 3 with a Note 4 based ROM on it i was sure about the Edge for about the first 24 hours then it just hit me that there is no way i will go back and that "maybe" my big screen philosophy was wrong.
i was not a pen user so that didnt really matter to me. i did have concerns about storage but not battery as i have external packs i rarely ever need.
i also have not used a case for years but i did order THIS Spigen case and thats when it all came together. that case was exactly the security in holding it and ease of picking it up that i was looking for and now i am VERY satisfied with it.
yesterday i needed to fire up my Note 3 (same size as 4) and it felt huge. i knew i could go back and get used to it but now i like the smaller form factor better again.
there are some issue like cell standby that i hope get addressed but the fact that many of the main reasons i root like rows and columns and themes have been addressed i am as happy with this purchase as about any phone before it.
I don't have my Galaxy S6 Edge yet, but I do have a Note Edge right now. I went from the Note 2, to the Note 3, to the Note Edge to be exact so I have had the larger screen, S-Pen, and huge battery for a long time now. In that time, I have really grown to enjoy these phones. When I agreed to upgrade to the Galaxy S6 Edge, I was hesitant at first. I have a friend who works for Verizon business who let me play with his phone for about 40 minutes and I was hooked. This thing was simply awesome. You are right, the S6 Edge doesn't have an S-Pen, the screen is smaller, and the battery life isn't as good. On the plus side, you have superior construction, a faster processor, better camera, wireless charging, and so on.
I am not saying that the S6 Edge is better in every way. What I am saying is that there are pluses and minuses and you have to decide which way you want to go. There is no right or wrong answer here. The only opinion that matters is what you think and if you want to go with a Note 4, then go for it. I can tell you right now that I believe I am going to miss some of the Note features such as the bigger battery and screen when I get my S6 Edge. At the same time though, after having large phablets for the last few years, I am eager to try something new and smaller.
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Going to give it a week - this doesn't feel like something worth 300 bucks when compared to the note 4 I got for free!! (99 dollar bill credit + 189 for the 10 dollar recycled phone)....
Things don't seem to be happening much on the EDGE part of the phone I know I'm overly picky
Anyone else with me?
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There's a lot of new going on under the hood for both models. UFS 2 is huge. HUGE! I don't know why this isn't getting more hype, especially since so many are grumbling about the lack of a micro SD card slot. What an easy way to get people to shut up about it... explain the science of UFS 2, and have a video demonstration on how it improves everything day to day. DDR4 is also awesome, but will likely be on every model next year. I really think/see the edge as just better. I really like how video looks on it (floating effect) and how text scrolls up and down when in horizontal orientation. Swiping also feels great. It's just physically better. I could care less about that physicality bringing new useless features.
The S6 Edge to me, is nearly perfect for our current world. We are plateauing a bit in terms of cell phone functionality... now it's time to introduce new design elements, and Samsung nailed it.
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Im of a similar mind I think ill return my edge and get the regular s6 Id take the storage over the screen which aesthetically pleasing it really has no value to "me"
I think I was leaning very heavy to do the regular s6 vs the s6 Edge, especially for the storage. But the one thing that made me go for the S6 Edge was that every other Samsung I have owned (which is a lot, Note 2/3/4 & S2/S3) have all looked like the S6 Edge. Sure the material is nicer, but it's a marginal upgrade from the Note 4.
I think the S6 Edge was so bold and it looks awesome. Will it provide functional use? No, probably not. But it doesn't hurt that I got $100 off from trading in a device and it ended up being the same price as the S6. Even without the trade in, I'm happy with the choice. It looks and feels nice in the hand, aside from being a spec monster, I'll pay a premium for looks.... within reason.
Hello all,
I have an upgrade to use with Verizon. Currently on the S5 and can't stand the fact there's no development cause of locked BS Samsung crap. Just wondering if I should get an "older" phone like the N6 or try out the G4 (they tend to get unlocked within a couple months). Want to get away form Touchjizz and Sammy thanks to Verizon. Any comments would be appreciated!
I recently purchased the Nexus 6 on Verizon and I'm extremely happy. I also have an active Note 4 and now never use it. I'm having so much fun flashing ROMs and customizing the device (wood back covers, etc) that being 6 months old doesnt bother me. I'll wait for the next Nexus before upgrading again.
Also, this is the only device that I've purchased from Verizon that came with ZERO bloat. Literally nothing. Even AT&T crapped that up. It doesn't make great use of Verizon's Advanced Calling feature (native video calling) but who cares. VoLTE works.
Obviously get the G4. Nexus devices have subpar battery life
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Obviously get the note 4. Nexus devices have subpar battery life
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Dude, i have almost never seen a postive comment of you about phones in multiple forums. Why do you always endup with the wrong phones and do you even have a Nexus 6?
That said both devices are awesome but very different. The G4 has a swapable battery, external sd card support up to 2TB, a superb camera wich some find even better then that of the Galaxy S6 and a gorgeous screen. Batterylife will be a bit better than de N6`s but the N6 is a developer phone with many choices of roms, kernels, and mods too choose from. The Nexus 6 has a good screen but in full sunlight sometimes not very clear, the speakers are great, its superfluid with no lags and in daily use a very good phone to use and it kind of grows on you
I recommend the 64GB version as there is no sdcard slot and the battery is not swapable and the speakers are very good imo.
So both have things going for them, best is to play with both in real life in a shop if you can and see wich one feels best for you.
@gee2012, am I lying about the battery life?
Nexus are great besides that and the camera
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@gee2012, am I lying about the battery life?
Nexus are great besides that and the camera
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I never call other users liars bro, i just noticed your name and it reminded me of the negative comments you used to post about the last years N5 i believe. But enough about that, the batttery gets me through the day and have about 4-4,5 hrs. screenontime wich is sufficient for me. Its not Note 4 and certainly not Ascend Mate 7 figures but enough for me It varies depending on settings and usage per user. The camera shoots pretty descent shots with sufficient light and lowlight with HDR+ isn`t bad either for me, but again not Galaxy S6 or even LG G3 quality.
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Hello all,
I have an upgrade to use with Verizon. Currently on the S5 and can't stand the fact there's no development cause of locked BS Samsung crap. Just wondering if I should get an "older" phone like the N6 or try out the G4 (they tend to get unlocked within a couple months). Want to get away form Touchjizz and Sammy thanks to Verizon. Any comments would be appreciated!
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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Can you link any websites showing the adreno 418 being worse than the 420? I did some fast googling and although there's not a lot of info it seems the 418 is as powerful as the 420 if not slightly more edging it out and is also made on a smaller die 20nm vs 28nm.
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Can you link any websites showing the adreno 418 being worse than the 420? I did some fast googling and although there's not a lot of info it seems the 418 is as powerful as the 420 if not slightly more edging it out and is also made on a smaller die 20nm vs 28nm.
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From Anandtech: "In terms of graphics performance, the Adreno 418 is apparently 20% faster than the Adreno 330...and the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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From Anandtech: "In terms of graphics performance, the Adreno 418 is apparently 20% faster than the Adreno 330...and the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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Ahh I kept googling adreno 420 vs 418. I should been looking at 418 vs 330. Thank you for this!
gee2012 said:
I never call other users liars bro, i just noticed your name and it reminded me of the negative comments you used to post about the last years N5 i believe. But enough about that, the batttery gets me through the day and have about 4-4,5 hrs. screenontime wich is sufficient for me. Its not Note 4 and certainly not Ascend Mate 7 figures but enough for me It varies depending on settings and usage per user. The camera shoots pretty descent shots with sufficient light and lowlight with HDR+ isn`t bad either for me, but again not Galaxy S6 or even LG G3 quality.
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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Ed Murray said:
I recently purchased the Nexus 6 on Verizon and I'm extremely happy. I also have an active Note 4 and now never use it. I'm having so much fun flashing ROMs and customizing the device (wood back covers, etc) that being 6 months old doesnt bother me. I'll wait for the next Nexus before upgrading again.
Also, this is the only device that I've purchased from Verizon that came with ZERO bloat. Literally nothing. Even AT&T crapped that up. It doesn't make great use of Verizon's Advanced Calling feature (native video calling) but who cares. VoLTE works.
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Thanks everyone for your input! I would be using the camera more than gaming. Only gaming I do is the occasional w/e game while I'm taking care of business lol. Nexus was thrown in here because of all the development it has right now. I might be leaning towards the G4 just with all the extras it has and the phenomenal camera and it will still be faster than my S5. I own it, and yeah it does have some lag still. Can't stand Touchwhiz anymore and the lack of development thanks to their boost in security. Not sure why the last several Nexuses weren't removable batteries. Just an OCD thing on my part as well as external storage.
Yes Samsung phones have become harder to ROM, root, etc, unless you Go for T-Mobile/international and even then its not great.
If you plan on using the camera often, take it from a Nexus 6, Note 4 user - check out the G4.
That's my suggestion, good luck in your decision
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Thanks everyone for your input! I would be using the camera more than gaming. Only gaming I do is the occasional w/e game while I'm taking care of business lol. Nexus was thrown in here because of all the development it has right now. I might be leaning towards the G4 just with all the extras it has and the phenomenal camera and it will still be faster than my S5. I own it, and yeah it does have some lag still. Can't stand Touchwhiz anymore and the lack of development thanks to their boost in security. Not sure why the last several Nexuses weren't removable batteries. Just an OCD thing on my part as well as external storage.
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Curious if anyone made the jump from a S8+ to a Note 8? Was there enough difference to make it worth the upgrade?
I have the AT&T version which I'll return once the unlocked version I ordered comes in. I'm glad I made the switch but for me it's the slight change in shape that makes it for me. I like the S pen but could live without, battery has been about as good, still new so it needs to settle in but otherwise I'm happy.
Right now (in my country) used S8+ goes for about 720$ and new S8+ is like 830$, and new Note8 goes for 1190$. I'm waiting for N8 price drop - suspecting that next month it will be about 1050$, and then I'll definitly switch
It depends on what kind of user you are. The big difference is the sPen, obviously. If that's something you see yourself using then yes, it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise, I'd say no. The screen bump isn't monumental, the extra RAM is only useful if you're an extreme multitasker, and performance is largely the same.
IMO yes. Im note user and lover
The phone shape to me is better.
Been missing my spen for a while. The fingerprint sensor is in a better loctaction. The camera takes better photo.
The extra ram makes it a bit faster/smoother.
So to me worth the upgrade.
Yes it was worth it for me. Adding to the reasons already mentioned.
S8+: Only allows 7 apps in memory.
Note8: 29 apps are kept in memory at once.
Now I am not sure if the # of apps is hard coded, or its based on how much ram the consume, but its a huge difference. I play a game (Star Wars: Galaxy of Heros) and on the S8 every time I was out of the game for an hour or more it would normally need to reload. On the Note8 I have come back to the game the next day and its still loaded. Its great!
You can see the proof here:
My cousin has the S8+ and my Note feels a hell of lot more high end than his. I think it's worth the switch just because of looks and feel. Then you get the S Pen that I use every day. It's so nice to go through your phone with the S Pen.
I own both, but the S8 Plus has better battery life, even tho the Note8 battery life is excellent!
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I own both, but the S8 Plus has better battery life, even tho the Note8 battery life is excellent!
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Absolutely agree with this 110%.
I enjoy the dual camera setup, the additional width, and the less muted screen edges.
I don't miss my S8+.
Note 8 is all about s-pen and it's the only one, if you don't care about the pen, personally I don't see compelling reason to upgrade and since you're asking, probably there isn't one.
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Curious if anyone made the jump from a S8+ to a Note 8? Was there enough difference to make it worth the upgrade?
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The Note 8 is NOT an upgrade, its not designed to be.
The 8 series of Samsung mobile phone consist's of three models, the S8, S8+ and the Note 8. All three models are similar and are there to fit an individual choice. One is a smallish mobile the other a phablet and the Note fills a small niche market and caters for those who use the S-pen and its software.
Most people don't want the S-pen that is why the S8+ is there but some don't want a phablet that is why the S8 exists.
I own the S8+ and regret deeply buying it as I wanted the Note but me being me I had to go and spend silly money four months ago to then go and spend even more silly money for the mobile I have wanted since owning my two Note 7's. I now own the mobile I am content with and man does that take some doing. I have owned around five phones this year alone. There won't be anymore until maybe the Note 9. Read that maybe as a certainty (help!!!)
It serves zero purpose to compare the three models they are as different as the Mercedes E class in salon, convertible and coupe, all have identical major parts but vary in some area of style, size and usage etc.
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Well Worth investment.
It's worth the upgrade if you're looking to multitask heavier, As with Note 8 you can get the ability to use sPen plus there is dual camera included along with the legandary S8+ camera. Battery life is about the same but on some occasions, you may experience shorter battery life compared to S8+.
I have both S8+ and note 8. Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed. Not only that, the extra 2gb of ram works wonders.
The S8+ I had constantly closing apps having to reload almost everything.
The note 8 I have not had any apps reload.
I also like the square shape more as well as less curved edges.
Very happy with the note 8 over S8
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I have both S8+ and note 8. Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed. Not only that, the extra 2gb of ram works wonders.
The S8+ I had constantly closing apps having to reload almost everything.
The note 8 I have not had any apps reload.
I also like the square shape more as well as less curved edges.
Very happy with the note 8 over S8
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I suggest you not to mention the "Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed", You'll experience stuttering and lag within six months of usage. You were too quick to make judgements, The Galaxy S8 Plus 128GB with 6GB RAM is already experiencing stuttering in the grouped notification.
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Yes it was worth it for me. Adding to the reasons already mentioned.
S8+: Only allows 7 apps in memory.
Note8: 29 apps are kept in memory at once.
Now I am not sure if the # of apps is hard coded, or its based on how much ram the consume, but its a huge difference. I play a game (Star Wars: Galaxy of Heros) and on the S8 every time I was out of the game for an hour or more it would normally need to reload. On the Note8 I have come back to the game the next day and its still loaded. Its great!
You can see the proof here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls6AiPkJsc
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I have to agree with this reason alone. The s8+ feels sluggish compared to how the note 8 performs. Not regretting the move.
Note 8 for me is worth it. 1st device I have owned that I dont care to root. Its amazing the way it is..7hrs screen time average.. even pulled 8hrs.
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I suggest you not to mention the "Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed", You'll experience stuttering and lag within six months of usage. You were too quick to make judgements, The Galaxy S8 Plus 128GB with 6GB RAM is already experiencing stuttering in the grouped notification.
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I understand what your saying since we are talking samsung device here. But i never understood why people say "itll lag within 6 months" , then why not just factory reset every 6 months? If in fact this note 8 slows to a crawl after 6 months, taking 20 minutes out of my day to do a factory reset is not an issue. Its not like its even painful anymore, now all the apps install and sync by themselves, keep app data and logins.
I've had the S8+ for 5 months and while its not slow, its janky UI lag has been present since day 1 of owning the device. Note 8 is way better in this regard.
It's all about the s-pen. Well worth it if you use the pen on a regular basis. The shape also feels better to me. I use mine alot for work, I keep spreadsheets and PDF files on here alot and take pictures and draw notes on top with s-pen , and that makes it irreplaceable to me. My recent stint with the s7edge made me really miss the note series and I ended up using the note 5 alot until the note 8 came out. I have had all the notes since the note 2.
Hope this helps
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I understand what your saying since we are talking samsung device here. But i never understood why people say "itll lag within 6 months" , then why not just factory reset every 6 months? If in fact this note 8 slows to a crawl after 6 months, taking 20 minutes out of my day to do a factory reset is not an issue. Its not like its even painful anymore, now all the apps install and sync by themselves, keep app data and logins.
I've had the S8+ for 5 months and while its not slow, its janky UI lag has been present since day 1 of owning the device. Note 8 is way better in this regard.
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The Note 8 has a greater IQ than some of its owners. What you write is common sense and unfortunately passes over some owners heads. :crying: I often feel sorry for the Note 8 and not its owner.
Rather inflammatory post! Must have got out the wrong side of the bed this morning. Stuff it.
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Note 8 for me is worth it. 1st device I have owned that I dont care to root. Its amazing the way it is..7hrs screen time average.. even pulled 8hrs.
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^^This.^^
My first Android phone was a Droid Incredible. There were definitely advantages to rooting which outweighed the random restarts and occasional bootloops. The more advanced the phones become, the less I see a need to root. I wasn't even inspired to root the LG V20.
I've seen zero lag in this phone especially after boosting the animations to .5. I'm not much of a themer, but Substratum seems to have that base covered. It seems that a creative mix of Tasker and AutoTools can do wonders to a phone without rooting. In short, the last custom ROM I ran was for the Note 7. There was no advantage to me. Your mileage may vary.
Back to the Note 8/S8 discussion... the Note 8 has the cameras the S8 doesn't have. It has more memory than the S8. The screen is bigger... nominally... than the S8+, and there's the S-pen. If that's important to ya... or if having the latest and greatest is, buy the Note 8.