Alternate to "backup password" ? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S6

First off, my first post here, although I have lurked and downloaded many ROMs for my HTC One M7. Love this place!
Onto my question
I've recently purchased a S6 after being very unhappy with a iPhone 6 plus purchase that I was able to return for a full refund.
The phone is great and I love it, though one thing that is very annoying, and thats the "backup password" for the fingerprint scanner.
I wear gloves at work and would like to keep my security active and not disable it completely(Yes I know I can disable it specifically at work, i'd rather not.). Is there any way to use a simple PIN or even PATTERN instead of HAVING to type in a password as an alternative?
Thanks in advance

jsm209 said:
First off, my first post here, although I have lurked and downloaded many ROMs for my HTC One M7. Love this place!
Onto my question
I've recently purchased a S6 after being very unhappy with a iPhone 6 plus purchase that I was able to return for a full refund.
The phone is great and I love it, though one thing that is very annoying, and thats the "backup password" for the fingerprint scanner.
I wear gloves at work and would like to keep my security active and not disable it completely(Yes I know I can disable it specifically at work, i'd rather not.). Is there any way to use a simple PIN or even PATTERN instead of HAVING to type in a password as an alternative?
Thanks in advance
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I haven't found another way yet, but I would be curious to know as well (I also wear gloves at work frequently). Backup password is a pita, especially because they make you choose a long one.
Do you wear opaque/leather gloves or vinyl/disposable gloves? I wear vinyl at work and I've actually gotten the reader to pick up my fingerprint through the gloves before, but it can take a few tries. Mostly I think it's the wrinkles in the material that cause it to misread. Every once in a while it works though, and I do a little happy dance :laugh:

mrapp said:
I haven't found another way yet, but I would be curious to know as well (I also wear gloves at work frequently). Backup password is a pita, especially because they make you choose a long one.
Do you wear opaque/leather gloves or vinyl/disposable gloves? I wear vinyl at work and I've actually gotten the reader to pick up my fingerprint through the gloves before, but it can take a few tries. Mostly I think it's the wrinkles in the material that cause it to misread. Every once in a while it works though, and I do a little happy dance :laugh:
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Vinyl ones but they are rather thick, I havent got the scanner to even register theres a finger on the scanner through the gloves yet. And yeah the length and the fact you need a letter and number is especially annoying. Hope there is either a way to change it or an update to add the option, though ><

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[APP] Nexus S Fingerprint Scanner App For Ultimate Security

Is There A Way To Implement This Or Port It For The Nexus S? I Know Our Phone Doesnt Have The Reader On The Phone But Is It Possible To Substitute It With Something Else That Only We Can Unlock Our Phones With. I Saw The Video Earlier And Was Quite Impressed. What Do You Guys Think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmIgNhg0M4
Having a fingerprint scanner on a cellphone is just as stupid as having it on a computer, it's nothing but a security hazard, your fingerprints will be smeared all over your device and/or keyboard and it will be much easier to bypass than an ordinary password.
Now, apart from that, sure it'd be nice to show off with. But there's nothing that can do anything like it with the NS. One thing I did see though was using an NFC-card as a "key" for your phone.
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Having a fingerprint scanner on a cellphone is just as stupid as having it on a computer, it's nothing but a security hazard, your fingerprints will be smeared all over your device and/or keyboard and it will be much easier to bypass than an ordinary password.
Now, apart from that, sure it'd be nice to show off with. But there's nothing that can do anything like it with the NS. One thing I did see though was using an NFC-card as a "key" for your phone.
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That's your opinion but there is no way of it smearing on the atrix as you can see in the video. You smear more when you type on the nexus.
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I tend to agree with the opinion that Biometrics on a phone are just a little over the top and could lead to some problems. The idea that your print would be smeared all over the device, however, is just ludacris. The issues I see arising would be, for example, disabling the phone from being returned to you. Just as it prevents people who would use their phones maliciously it prevents people from trying to find the owner of a found device. I once worked at a movie theater and often we returned found cell phones by calling people on their speed dial and asking whomever picked up to inform the person whose number appeared on their caller id that there phone had been found.
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Just a question, but given that the camera can also double up as a barcode reader, wouldn't it theoretically be possible for it to be able to take a good enough quality image of a finger so that it could determine it's uniqueness and therefore identity?
I'm not saying it's a reasonable security mechanism, but it would be pretty cool if it could be done...
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I tend to agree with the opinion that Biometrics on a phone are just a little over the top and could lead to some problems. The idea that your print would be smeared all over the device, however, is just ludacris. The issues I see arising would be, for example, disabling the phone from being returned to you. Just as it prevents people who would use their phones maliciously it prevents people from trying to find the owner of a found device. I once worked at a movie theater and often we returned found cell phones by calling people on their speed dial and asking whomever picked up to inform the person whose number appeared on their caller id that there phone had been found.
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The Atrix takes and records both your left and right index finger 3-8 times. So unless your a double amputee....
Yeah it would be a good idea
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True. But its just a idea.
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robstunner said:
The Atrix takes and records both your left and right index finger 3-8 times. So unless your a double amputee....
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I'm sorry but what does that have to do with other people being able to use your phone? The other issue would be in situations like my wife and I have; we have the same phone and often times I take her phone for the day in order to fix issues on her phone but if her phone required her fingerprint to unlock I couldn't do that. Or another example; I usually drive when we go places but most of our friends text/call me about plans and I often get emails and texts about work while we're driving and in both of these cases, I usually need to respond as soon as possible if not immediately. If my phone required my fingerprint to unlock it would add a very unnecessary step to the process of having her respond to these messages.
I'm not saying there are no uses for a fingerprint scanner; for example if you have a lot of sensitive information on your phone like a lawyer or a government official or a doctor or any other number of professions might then requiring your fingerprint to unlock makes sense. But for an average Joe user like me or many other users it just seems like a lot of cloak and dagger to protect my score in Paper Toss lol
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I'm sorry but what does that have to do with other people being able to use your phone? The other issue would be in situations like my wife and I have; we have the same phone and often times I take her phone for the day in order to fix issues on her phone but if her phone required her fingerprint to unlock I couldn't do that. Or another example; I usually drive when we go places but most of our friends text/call me about plans and I often get emails and texts about work while we're driving and in both of these cases, I usually need to respond as soon as possible if not immediately. If my phone required my fingerprint to unlock it would add a very unnecessary step to the process of having her respond to these messages.
I'm not saying there are no uses for a fingerprint scanner; for example if you have a lot of sensitive information on your phone like a lawyer or a government official or a doctor or any other number of professions might then requiring your fingerprint to unlock makes sense. But for an average Joe user like me or many other users it just seems like a lot of cloak and dagger to protect my score in Paper Toss lol
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You forgot Angry Birds.
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kenvan19 said:
I'm sorry but what does that have to do with other people being able to use your phone? The other issue would be in situations like my wife and I have; we have the same phone and often times I take her phone for the day in order to fix issues on her phone but if her phone required her fingerprint to unlock I couldn't do that. Or another example; I usually drive when we go places but most of our friends text/call me about plans and I often get emails and texts about work while we're driving and in both of these cases, I usually need to respond as soon as possible if not immediately. If my phone required my fingerprint to unlock it would add a very unnecessary step to the process of having her respond to these messages.
I'm not saying there are no uses for a fingerprint scanner; for example if you have a lot of sensitive information on your phone like a lawyer or a government official or a doctor or any other number of professions might then requiring your fingerprint to unlock makes sense. But for an average Joe user like me or many other users it just seems like a lot of cloak and dagger to protect my score in Paper Toss lol
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Atrix requires a PIN in addition to both index fingers. So as long as you knew your wifes passcode you would be fine.
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FML! Left my N7 on a plane.

So United has a horrible Lost and found system. I called them less then 30 minutes after walking off the plane. I wanted someone to walk to my seat and physically grab it. Since i was near the rear of the plane and the last one out of my row im pretty sure no other passenger would of grabbed it. All they could do is basically tell me to report it on the website and i "might" get a call. The thing is I know and have talked to a few flight attendants and it seems like a lot of the time there co-workers hide the stuff and keep it for themself. So instead of united actually doing a physical check it is pretty much as good as gone at this point. I really have no faith i will get it back. It was a flawless N7 16gb too!. Doubt I will buy a new one to replace it even though i really loved the device, I just have too much other things going on to afford it atm. So if I dont get a call/email in the next few days, it was nice being a part of these forums and loved the vibe here.
That sucks. Hope you able to get it back. Good luck!
This reminds me when I lost my old GBA case on a plane. It had so many good games in there, and the GBA itself. I still had my SP case though, that had the SP and games as well, so I didn't lose everything.
I miss you Nightmare in Dreamland.
Anyway, sorry to hear about losing your Nexus.
omg that is so sad. i almost cried reading your post.. I would hate to loose mine right now . It will come in handy starting next week. Wed i have to have a bicep tendon surgery..
boohooo
i so hope they do the honest thing and get it back to you
Get a case or sleeve that you can tether to your bag, belt, etc. Also, Case Logic LNE07 comes in red so it's hard to visually miss it.
Scythe024 said:
So United has a horrible Lost and found system. I called them less then 30 minutes after walking off the plane. I wanted someone to walk to my seat and physically grab it. Since i was near the rear of the plane and the last one out of my row im pretty sure no other passenger would of grabbed it. All they could do is basically tell me to report it on the website and i "might" get a call. The thing is I know and have talked to a few flight attendants and it seems like a lot of the time there co-workers hide the stuff and keep it for themself. So instead of united actually doing a physical check it is pretty much as good as gone at this point. I really have no faith i will get it back. It was a flawless N7 16gb too!. Doubt I will buy a new one to replace it even though i really loved the device, I just have too much other things going on to afford it atm. So if I dont get a call/email in the next few days, it was nice being a part of these forums and loved the vibe here.
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United Airlines is the worst. From the most cramped planes with the worst seats in the industry, to the worst customer service there is. I used to fly Continental exclusively, but since the merger, no more. Good luck.
Any chance you had Lookout or some other tracking service installed? Sucks man. My wife is a flight attendant and she has turned in several Kindle's and what-not in, so perhaps there is a chance. Best of luck!
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Any chance you had Lookout or some other tracking service installed? Sucks man. My wife is a flight attendant and she has turned in several Kindle's and what-not in, so perhaps there is a chance. Best of luck!
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yes i have lookout installed.
You never know, I found someone's kindle on a Southwest flight and took it right up to the counter. They said they had already hear from the passenger and knew whose it was. Messing with other people's gadgets is bad mojo.
Scythe024 said:
yes i have lookout installed.
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Can you tell if it's still at the airport? If yes, that is a very good sign that it's probably been turned in (and someone turned it on and connected to wifi...but lets hope that was in an effort to identify you for good reasons). If it pops up online anywhere outside of the airport...it's pretty much gone. Hopefully you changed all your passwords to all your accounts too...notified any credit cards you have tied to any of those accounts, etc.
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Can you tell if it's still at the airport? If yes, that is a very good sign that it's probably been turned in (and someone turned it on and connected to wifi...but lets hope that was in an effort to identify you for good reasons). If it pops up online anywhere outside of the airport...it's pretty much gone. Hopefully you changed all your passwords to all your accounts too...notified any credit cards you have tied to any of those accounts, etc.
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it wasnt able to locate it which leads me to believe it wasnt turned on and connected to wifi. I had google wallet active on there but no credit card tied to it, just the $10 that came free.
Scythe024 said:
So United has a horrible Lost and found system. I called them less then 30 minutes after walking off the plane. I wanted someone to walk to my seat and physically grab it. Since i was near the rear of the plane and the last one out of my row im pretty sure no other passenger would of grabbed it. All they could do is basically tell me to report it on the website and i "might" get a call. The thing is I know and have talked to a few flight attendants and it seems like a lot of the time there co-workers hide the stuff and keep it for themself. So instead of united actually doing a physical check it is pretty much as good as gone at this point. I really have no faith i will get it back. It was a flawless N7 16gb too!. Doubt I will buy a new one to replace it even though i really loved the device, I just have too much other things going on to afford it atm. So if I dont get a call/email in the next few days, it was nice being a part of these forums and loved the vibe here.
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If you bought it with a credit card you might have some buyer protection like, replacement for stolen or broken items. I buy everything with American express, I have a 90 day window in which they will replace if lost, stolen, broken, etc.... Plus they extend any warranty an additional year...
Visa has something like this on a few of the cards...
Scythe024 said:
it wasnt able to locate it which leads me to believe it wasnt turned on and connected to wifi. I had google wallet active on there but no credit card tied to it, just the $10 that came free.
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you need to input your passcode anyway, unless you have it stored in your tablet for someone to find out
I am really surprised that Google doesn't have an easy way to register our devices. Every Android device has numbers associated with it that can't be changed. The MAC addresses for both the WiFi and Bluetooth interfaces are unique, so every device that has either of these radios could be identified. It should be part of the OS that these tablets can't install any software if the registered owner reports it lost or stolen. If the device has cameras, a picture should be taken when it's connected to the internet. These pictures could be retrieved when a valid case number or subpoena is provided. At least a warning should appear on the tablet saying it has been reported lost or stolen. Make it a pain to use a misappropriated tablet.
Yes, I know there are programs out there that do this for you, but they are easily circumvented by doing a full factory reset of the device. Come on Google! Take a bite out of crime!
Jroyd said:
I am really surprised that Google doesn't have an easy way to register our devices. Every Android device has numbers associated with it that can't be changed. The MAC addresses for both the WiFi and Bluetooth interfaces are unique, so every device that has either of these radios could be identified. It should be part of the OS that these tablets can't install any software if the registered owner reports it lost or stolen. If the device has cameras, a picture should be taken when it's connected to the internet. These pictures could be retrieved when a valid case number or subpoena is provided. At least a warning should appear on the tablet saying it has been reported lost or stolen. Make it a pain to use a misappropriated tablet.
Yes, I know there are programs out there that do this for you, but they are easily circumvented by doing a full factory reset of the device. Come on Google! Take a bite out of crime!
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Someone on another thread said that somebody sold them a Nexus 7 that was apparently known to Google as stolen, and I guess Play access was disabled or something, I don't know the exact details though...
An app is only easily removed if it is loaded as a user app. If it is am system app a standard reset went be enough. On the other hand maybe they will be smart enough to take it further.
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A very similar thing happened to me on a BA flight inbound to heathrow years ago. On that occasion i left a case containing some sennheiser noise cancelling headphones and an ipod nano in the seat pocket. I realized just a short distance from the gate and went back but they wouldn't let me back on. They never found for me either. I was eventually told that "I think someone has add it mate".
Jroyd said:
... If the device has cameras, a picture should be taken when it's connected to the internet. These pictures could be retrieved when a valid case number or subpoena is provided. At least a warning should appear on the tablet saying it has been reported lost or stolen.
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I have my devices set to take front and rear photos on evey boot and on multiple incorrect passcodes which are uploaded staight to dropbox and google plus. They also text each other with gps coordinates on every boot. Again, this is only useful if the thief doesn't factory reset or flash a new rom.
I wonder if devs could implement a passcode for cwm et al to secure the flashing process?
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goto play.google.com and install plan B remotely, youll be able to track it once it's online, as long as it's still tied to your google account
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I have my devices set to take front and rear photos on evey boot and on multiple incorrect passcodes which are uploaded staight to dropbox and google plus. They also text each other with gps coordinates on every boot. Again, this is only useful if the thief doesn't factory reset or flash a new rom.
I wonder if devs could implement a passcode for cwm et al to secure the flashing process?
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This was discussed before but i think they said they couldn't because it could lock you out of your device
Slate on a plane!!
Sorry, just had too
I read on Google's help pages that they can remotely lock a device so might be worth calling them. If someone can't use it they might put it back in lost property or something.

Figured out MY problem with the fingerprint reader

Last week I went to the DMV to get a new drivers license. In the process I needed to get my index finger printed. The technician tried and tried using some kind of an optical scanning device but failed to get an acceptable image. He mentioned that he's seen the same problem with others my age (late 60s) and blamed it on losing collagen. Seemed strange to me as I'd never heard of such a thing.
So I decided to do some research and found this (in a Scientific American article):
"...the elasticity of skin decreases with age, so a lot of senior citizens have prints that are difficult to capture. The ridges get thicker; the height between the top of the ridge and the bottom of the furrow gets narrow, so there's less prominence."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lose-your-fingerprints/
While I now understand, figuring out my problem doesn't solve it.
I haven't looked in a while--did anyone ever locate the fountain of youth?
Just another cruel joke to make getting old suck even more.
It also might be caused by doing dishes alot.
Sometimes if you do the dished so much the scanner cant read it even the scanner for making a passport may not be able to
Thought this might help me with my missing password and correct fingerprint files, but no.
However, I have this to say you're proably better off without the stupid scanner
Yeah man, the scanner BLOWS.
Simple - as - that!
Mine packed up after unlocking and updating firmware - backup password doesn't work either. Actually, I think it's probably less annoying to not be able to access it, then to access it. Seriously, if it doesn't work 99.99% of the time it's bloody annoying. All these people saying yeah but it works every 8 or 9 out of ten... WTF? Seriously, if I had to double press my laptop or car every tenth time I'd take it back to the manufacturer.
Welcome to the new and more expensive samsung - NOT. I'm done with you after this latest phone. It'll be a Xiao mi or a one plus 2 for me. Almost looking forward to having this one stolen or broken so I can justify the change to my wife...
rabilancia said:
Last week I went to the DMV to get a new drivers license. In the process I needed to get my index finger printed. The technician tried and tried using some kind of an optical scanning device but failed to get an acceptable image. He mentioned that he's seen the same problem with others my age (late 60s) and blamed it on losing collagen. Seemed strange to me as I'd never heard of such a thing.
So I decided to do some research and found this (in a Scientific American article):
"...the elasticity of skin decreases with age, so a lot of senior citizens have prints that are difficult to capture. The ridges get thicker; the height between the top of the ridge and the bottom of the furrow gets narrow, so there's less prominence."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lose-your-fingerprints/
While I now understand, figuring out my problem doesn't solve it.
I haven't looked in a while--did anyone ever locate the fountain of youth?
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Sounds cool! Now you can start a life of crime and get away with it!

One week with the Axon M. What do you want to know?

Been enjoying the phone. If you have any questions, ask away.
I'm really enjoying this phone. An the reviewers seem to jump on the same bandwagon and say this phone is not worth it.
They're completely wrong in my case. Having the second screen to multitask once and awhile, but mostly to stretch the display to a tablet size is so nice.
If only this thing had root and xposed!
How is the fingerprint reader? I was too nervous to get it due to the tiny looking fingerprint reader, but I so wish I got this instead of sticking with Verizon and getting an S8+.... full of buyer's regret now lol. Also, is there anywhere to get it besides AT&T?
mybabyloves said:
How is the fingerprint reader? I was too nervous to get it due to the tiny looking fingerprint reader, but I so wish I got this instead of sticking with Verizon and getting an S8+.... full of buyer's regret now lol. Also, is there anywhere to get it besides AT&T?
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This is actually my first phone with a fingerprint reader. I think it works great. You can't just rest your finger on it to unlock, you have to push on the power button, but when you push down it also reads it immediately and unlocks.
If you're not an AT&T customer you can unlock any of their phones for free through their site.
I bought mine used off eBay.
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This is actually my first phone with a fingerprint reader. I think it works great. You can't just rest your finger on it to unlock, you have to push on the power button, but when you push down it also reads it immediately and unlocks.
If you're not an AT&T customer you can unlock any of their phones for free through their site.
I bought mine used off eBay.
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Thanks! I'm gonna go see if eBay has any more
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Thanks! I'm gonna go see if eBay has any more
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You buy one? I'm surprised this forum is so empty, as I'm really enjoying this phone.
dimex said:
You buy one? I'm surprised this forum is so empty, as I'm really enjoying this phone.
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Yeah, I'm switching to AT&T officially... eBay had them for approx $1,000. Mine arrives Monday (cuz it's not in store near me) I'm not too surprised as most professional reviews spent their reviews complaining about the specs...
dimex said:
I'm really enjoying this phone. An the reviewers seem to jump on the same bandwagon and say this phone is not worth it.
They're completely wrong in my case. Having the second screen to multitask once and awhile, but mostly to stretch the display to a tablet size is so nice.
If only this thing had root and xposed!
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I think the reviewers are crazy. I have seen a few that concentrated on the use of the phone and liked it. I love it! I can't believe there isn't more hype about it. And the TV function is really nice. Love the phone!!! (switched to att and more expensive plan to get it)
Does it have HDMI out?
Mine keeps rejecting my fingerprint with a message saying "partial fingerprint not recognized. Please try again." Anybody know how to fix this?

xz1 c in 2020

Greetings
Would you recommend buying this phone in 2020 for >200 bugs?
Also are you using the unofficial LineageOS port or a Generic System Image? If the latter, which one?
Depends what kind of currency your bugs are.
We used to trade with squirrelskins hundreds of years ago, but now with money this seems a bit old fashioned.. [emoji16]
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Depends what kind of currency your bugs are.
We used to trade with squirrelskins hundreds of years ago, but now with money this seems a bit old fashioned.. [emoji16]
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I'm talking about euros, friend
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I'm talking about euros, friend
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Ok. "Bucks" is usually USD.
I love the phone, so 200 EUR for a brand new phone sold by a store seems as an OK price to me. You get 2 years of warranty if you live in an EU country.
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hertell said:
Ok. "Bucks" is usually USD.
I love the phone, so 200 EUR for a brand new phone sold by a store seems as an OK price to me. You get 2 years of warranty if you live in an EU country.
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you using any of the mentioned custom software?
Over 200 bucks? Nah. I would say the price for this phone should be around 150. Try to get it used. I got mine used for 170€. It's a very good phone and works flawlessly. It misses some features of even older phones though, such as the night mode filter or a built in firewall. Mine still has a few months of warranty left, when it's over I will root it and then it will be perfect.
Only gripes I have with it:
>no soft touch buttons (like the OnePlus3 despite the bezel being huge), I hate the on screen navbar and on a small screen like this it's even more annoying
>fingerprint reader and power key are the same and the phone doesn't have double tap to wake, this means you have to do some finger wizardry every time to just turn on the screen without also unlocking every time
I use Wave up and am complete fine with it
drater2 said:
Greetings
Would you recommend buying this phone in 2020 for >200 bugs?
Also are you using the unofficial LineageOS port or a Generic System Image? If the latter, which one?
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If it is a truly compact phone you want with good battery life and a headphone jack then you cannot go wrong here.
But don't expect wonders from the camera.
I have been using LOS 17.1 for a while and it's been running smooth, but now that Havoc OS has been updated I will be switching over to it.
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Over 200 bucks? Nah. I would say the price for this phone should be around 150. Try to get it used. I got mine used for 170€. It's a very good phone and works flawlessly. It misses some features of even older phones though, such as the night mode filter or a built in firewall. Mine still has a few months of warranty left, when it's over I will root it and then it will be perfect.
Only gripes I have with it:
>no soft touch buttons (like the OnePlus3 despite the bezel being huge), I hate the on screen navbar and on a small screen like this it's even more annoying
>fingerprint reader and power key are the same and the phone doesn't have double tap to wake, this means you have to do some finger wizardry every time to just turn on the screen without also unlocking every time
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Custom Navigation Bar app works well for hiding the navigation bar
Looking for something that lasts long
My "recent history" is
SM galaxy s II, i sold a ruined by time one and the second was ruined and could not be resurrected in rice, after I was thrown over board by a pirate. I am not donkey kong, the real one is donekykong123 (already taken name), but the rest is true.
SM note 3 abandoned, just fell for the 100th time and unfortunately this time from the top of the car broke the screen yesterday.
I just found out that both have been supported from you ppl, you are ***** great.
I am not looking to take pics (ok night pics are cool but whatever!), i watch videos, i don't use social but twitter, no what app. I don't like being denied to download an app because I guess my system is not compatible (the android not being up to it usually is the cause), I dnt like at all the finger print, eye scanning and all these data extraction privacy break normalization things.
I want a 12 cm phone with cool shape.
If battery is interchangable and I have 4 RAM (as far as I informed myself) we are on top!
I am really struggling searching for something as I ve become kind of picky, but I also found that producers just make this stuff in serie all the same cost cutting trash forcing people to have phone in their hand and buying one every 1\2 year (I DEEPLY and BEASTLY hate this). Nature comes first than economy or consumerism
Now, sorry for saying this stuff, I am just trying to understand if this now abandoned Sony serie is good, (hard to find) but I saw that Serie x 1 and 5 will be supported (I dnt understand if this is a big problem really for a person that wants to buy something that will use for other 5 years AT LEAST).
I know that people are not accustomed to long posts. Sorry if it feels egocentrical, and disrespectful.
I cannot target a good model, I also saw as I like "mil-spec" stuff the ulephone but I saw that it's mostly just "america marketing" (no disprespect) they break anyway fast. I heard that motorola is something to check.
I like Sony since u know "the italians".. "the japanese"... they do it good, and i like the "motto" not for those that care for measure but for quality that this phone has, also because I am donkey kong and I dnt have measure concerns.
Now... I definitely have pockets as everybody else, I hate keeping these sterilizing tools in my pockets and knowing they look like Peace makers and feeling like I have a house in my front or back pocket (where u can also break the screen from I heard) is exactly what I want to avoid to have...
I am a EU south individual and we care a lot about style and also about practicality\pragmatism even if my post doesn't sound like this.
I posted below the OP thread because I think this is the perfect place to go deeper in this question\quest...
Thanks
MarkMRL said:
Over 200 bucks? Nah. I would say the price for this phone should be around 150. Try to get it used. I got mine used for 170€. It's a very good phone and works flawlessly. It misses some features of even older phones though, such as the night mode filter or a built in firewall. Mine still has a few months of warranty left, when it's over I will root it and then it will be perfect.
Only gripes I have with it:
>no soft touch buttons (like the OnePlus3 despite the bezel being huge), I hate the on screen navbar and on a small screen like this it's even more annoying
>fingerprint reader and power key are the same and the phone doesn't have double tap to wake, this means you have to do some finger wizardry every time to just turn on the screen without also unlocking every time
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I am also wondering inside my search for the perfect small phone, i don't need a tablet pushed inside my pockets, how can it be an ok buy if the software is abandoned by Sony : as notebookcheck.net/Official-Sony-Android-10-update-roadmap-confirms-that-the-Xperia-XZ1-phones-have-now-been-abandoned
Is it ok anyway?
I am the first to support also when all SELL, but look at this too: how can people tell you to buy it anyway? I understand one is buying the hardware, but also somehow the software and the mother house is important when one buys a phone: I remember when buying windows phone, I never made a worse suggestion to a person telling to buy it... it was trash.
notebookcheck.net/Sony-Smartphone-business-collapses-services-being-shut-down-too
This phone is definitely worth it considering the size and specs. I paid 60 dollars for mine used on eBay, I made an offer and it was accepted.
MarkMRL said:
Over 200 bucks? Nah. I would say the price for this phone should be around 150. Try to get it used. I got mine used for 170€. It's a very good phone and works flawlessly. It misses some features of even older phones though, such as the night mode filter or a built in firewall. Mine still has a few months of warranty left, when it's over I will root it and then it will be perfect.
Only gripes I have with it:
>no soft touch buttons (like the OnePlus3 despite the bezel being huge), I hate the on screen navbar and on a small screen like this it's even more annoying
>fingerprint reader and power key are the same and the phone doesn't have double tap to wake, this means you have to do some finger wizardry every time to just turn on the screen without also unlocking every time
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Recently sold my Xperia XZ because there was almost no usable custom software and I don't want to be stuck with Google spyware/ outdated stock rom.
Using my old z1 compact again and it's totally fine. - pretty much only using it as music player. I can get over the not so great camera.
XZ1c is quite expensive. Really hard to get nowadays. But it is the only quite recent phone on the market that is not complete trash. Maybe it will get cheaper with time. Then I might buy one. Right now this 6 year old phone is more than enough.
suarez90 said:
This phone is definitely worth it considering the size and specs. I paid 60 dollars for mine used on eBay, I made an offer and it was accepted.
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That's nice . The cheapest I could find was some 170 or something. Not acceptable for a relatively old phone in my opinion, considering how cheap they've become.

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