I thought this issue was related just to me using a car/cigarette lighter charger not specific to my devices but now I am not convinced!!
I have found that with my Diamond (and previously my Kaiser) that on an extended trip in the car, on a warm-hot day, with the device stuck to the dash windscreen, and running GPS software (Tomtom) that the device gets overly hot......no kidding you would think as it is in the direct sunlight (not often in Scotland though ) HOWEVER this is not the issue, the issue is that after a while it just stops charging (~30mins), presumably as a safety mechanism to cut down the heat and to stop the Li battery, er...exploding
My question is: has anyone else had this issue? Its rather inconvenient to arrive at your holiday destination, or other, only to find that your device has been totally drained as its been running (yes it still runs!!) on battery for the last hour or two. Surely this is something HTC must look at!!
Has anyone else had this issue (I've read of a few....hence this post!) esoecially those in a warmer climate, and if not, could it be because of a better? in-dash charging system...
Last note, these device are built with GPS (supposedly for car use!), if this is a real issue then it is what I would call flaw in the device......
Appreciate all comments please (especially from HTC/battery/device charging experts)
Read that already here that the Diamond stops charging when getting too hot! It seems that this is a built in overheat protection maybe for the battery but also for all the other electronic parts. Think they´ve implement it beacause of the very slim device design where there is less room to get rid of higher temperatures to protect it.
I had this issue not on my diamond till now, its only two weeks old, but I can report similar things about my Loox 720 and have red many posts regarding hp 4700 when they where the leader on pda-market a few years ago.
Charging the battery will be stoped by the device-electronics, after reaching a curtain temperature, this is common to all LiIon-charging electronics, I think.
What I've heard about the Diamond is, that it should help to swtich of WLAN, cause it tends to develop much heat.
Hi
Yes, initially I beleived it was to little amps from my 12V charger but I got the "to hot-not charging" tip from another tread in this forum.
As soon as my Diamond got colder it started to take charge again.
My car does not have an air conditioner and I need to put it on the dashbord to get satellite signals. I have not found a good solution yet.
stefan
PJ6363 said:
I thought this issue was related just to me using a car/cigarette lighter charger not specific to my devices but now I am not convinced!!
I have found that with my Diamond (and previously my Kaiser) that on an extended trip in the car, on a warm-hot day, with the device stuck to the dash windscreen, and running GPS software (Tomtom) that the device gets overly hot......no kidding you would think as it is in the direct sunlight (not often in Scotland though ) HOWEVER this is not the issue, the issue is that after a while it just stops charging (~30mins), presumably as a safety mechanism to cut down the heat and to stop the Li battery, er...exploding
My question is: has anyone else had this issue? Its rather inconvenient to arrive at your holiday destination, or other, only to find that your device has been totally drained as its been running (yes it still runs!!) on battery for the last hour or two. Surely this is something HTC must look at!!
Has anyone else had this issue (I've read of a few....hence this post!) esoecially those in a warmer climate, and if not, could it be because of a better? in-dash charging system...
Last note, these device are built with GPS (supposedly for car use!), if this is a real issue then it is what I would call flaw in the device......
Appreciate all comments please (especially from HTC/battery/device charging experts)
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Don't they say in the manual of every electronic device, don't put it in direct sunlight. Li-On batteries dont like to be too hot or too cold, it's not something HTC can fix I don't think, just don't leave the phone in direct sunlight.
My old Kaiser user to do this when I had to go out in the company van instead of my air conditioned car. I found folding a piece of white paper in half and using it as a "phone hat" made quite a big difference.
ljames28 said:
Don't they say in the manual of every electronic device, don't put it in direct sunlight. Li-On batteries dont like to be too hot or too cold, it's not something HTC can fix I don't think, just don't leave the phone in direct sunlight.
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LOL guys, perhaps we need to put a little parasol on the dash or maybe keep it in the glove compartment!!!
...seriously, I would like to think that this is a flaw, after all, where else can you safely put a "GPS device with street naviagation in your car"...it has to go on the w/screen or dash!!
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My question is: has anyone else had this issue?
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Yes, I've hadi the same problem. The only solution that I've found is to put the phone on a support near the car fan, so it can be cooled. Otherwise when became too hot stop charging and after half an hour the battery is totally out. !
It's a good thing, if you charge a battery in a too hot environnement, you kill it.
I can confirm this. I tried to navigate for 2 hours in my car, TD attached to my w/screen and after half an hour or shorter it shut down. And I couldn't get it on either. Wouldn't charge or anything. I had to wait a few minutes and then it would charge again. This happend two times during the same drive. After that I placed my TD infront of a fan and worked like a charm..seems like it gets to hot.
Oh yea btw. I also noticed I had, what looks like melted plastic, inside my phone after the drive (attached image)
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=14095
something like that would be perfect. Alternatively, using something like AEButton plus to map a key to turn off the screen will help as it will lower the power consumption. you can still hear the turn by turn instructions so you can still get where you are going most of the time, and the lower power drain will allow the battery to charge for longer without the temperature protection kicking in.
What i usually do is to just putt the air-con full blast on the winshield, it is usually a better idea to keep expensive electronic equipment in the normal operating temperature range anyway,
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Oh yea btw. I also noticed I had, what looks like melted plastic, inside my phone after the drive (attached image)
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On a different note, has your Diamond received a soaking? It likes like the water-sensitive sticker (used by HTC to tell if it's suffered water damage) is red on yours which suggests it has...?
Mathew
Happened on the Tytn and Tytn II as well~
Well, I am so sad to see this is still an issue.
My 8525 (had 3) and my Tilt(s) (I have 2) and they have run into the same problem of not charging under heavy use; i.e; Backlight on, Tomtom, GPS all running.
I so hoped they would have fixed this.
ATT has replaced all the phones that developed the problem so far.
I think one of the comments about being designed for in car use is amusing especially because most (if not all) GPS software says "Do not use while driving"
Batteries do overheat, and it's better that the charging is stopped, than you having a £400 fire on your dash board!
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http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=14095
something like that would be perfect. Alternatively, using something like AEButton plus to map a key to turn off the screen will help as it will lower the power consumption. you can still hear the turn by turn instructions so you can still get where you are going most of the time, and the lower power drain will allow the battery to charge for longer without the temperature protection kicking in.
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for example in iGO 8 there is an option to turn on the screen backlight only before crossroads - settings - device and you have an option to have light olways on, device settings or inteligent state when light is always turned of after passing crossroad and turning on some x hundred meters before crossroad
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My old Kaiser user to do this when I had to go out in the company van instead of my air conditioned car. I found folding a piece of white paper in half and using it as a "phone hat" made quite a big difference.
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Or, if you're more into the leather look
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It's a good thing, if you charge a battery in a too hot environnement, you kill it.
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The device should stop loading, before its beeing killed. Have to take care of when its possible to load the device and when not is nothing, what I've red in any user-manual before.
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On a different note, has your Diamond received a soaking? It likes like the water-sensitive sticker (used by HTC to tell if it's suffered water damage) is red on yours which suggests it has...?
Mathew
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Hmm no. It hasn't recieved a soaking. The phone has always been dry inside my pocket . Are you sure the red "thing" indicates the phone has been suffering from water damage?
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Hmm no. It hasn't recieved a soaking. The phone has always been dry inside my pocket . Are you sure the red "thing" indicates the phone has been suffering from water damage?
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My sticker/laber is white of color, so it could be be it came in contact with a liquid.
I repair notebooks and similar sticker, labels & coatings are used that change color when the come in to contact with a liquid. I've also asked a college of mine who used to repair mobile phones and he also confirmed that the put in stickers or laber or special coatings that react to liquids so it easy for the engineer to see if the machine is valid for warranty or not.
But I can't say for sure that the sticker I see on my phone that is white (& your is red), is such a sticker that changes color wen it comes in contact with a liquid.
has anyone seen an xperia cradle for sale ? i prefer having my phone sitting in the cradle whilst at work so that i can see the calendar / appointments, etc.
i realise the fact that the mini usb port being on the side means that it's unlikely that the phone can be charged whilst it's in the cradle ...
has anyone spotted one ?
Haven't seen one. I'd also like this and it would be great if you could have an alarm clock similar to the new Blackberry Storm as seen in the link below.
http://blogs.eveningsun.com/AC/2008/10/blackberry_storm.html
I found a link to this one over at xperiax1.net
Cradle + extra battery charger
good spot !
really ugly though with the loose usb cable hanging out.
Has anyone seen something with a solid usb connector (i. e. side frame with connector on it to push the phone agains)?
I want something where I can just push/slide/drop/whatever the phone in with one hand and have it connected, and just pull it back out to get it back!
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really ugly though with the loose usb cable hanging out.
Has anyone seen something with a solid usb connector (i. e. side frame with connector on it to push the phone agains)?
I want something where I can just push/slide/drop/whatever the phone in with one hand and have it connected, and just pull it back out to get it back!
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Yeah, I'm worried that with the position of the USB connector that it might not make cradle manufacturer's life easy for this phone. Is there president for a phone with a jack on the upper-side having a plug-and-charge cradle made for it?
I need to have a phone that can have a charge/stand that clicks right in.
i ended up buying the one in the link above. it's pretty lame if i'm honest but it's better than nothing ...
i can't see how any design is going to allow anyone to just grab the phone and remove it without having to wrestle with a connector at the side of the phone. annoyingly, there is only one input which (obviously) is the sync cable meaning that it's charged via my usb port rather than the mains (i.e it takes forever to charge ...)
we bought two of them, one is working one not. So we ordered directly by the manufacturer obo Hongkong and they arrieved yesterday. Both do not work! No connection to the PC! Error messages!
Hi guys,
I too was very suprised with the fact that I couldn't find any cradle which has a (as you call it) plug-in connection.
Enough reason for my to design and build one myself. I'm still in a very early stage of building, but I was wondering what would a cradle like that be worth for you guys, just to check if it would be furthwhile the make more than just one for myself.
They should just make a horizontal/landscape cradle that you slide out the keyboard and dock it like an UMPC. Honestly the vertical cradle looks hedious.
edit: just realized that's what the bb storm has. there you go.
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has anyone seen an xperia cradle for sale ? i prefer having my phone sitting in the cradle whilst at work so that i can see the calendar / appointments, etc.
i realise the fact that the mini usb port being on the side means that it's unlikely that the phone can be charged whilst it's in the cradle ...
has anyone spotted one ?
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http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/17827.htm
Sorry for the repetition.
I'm with outie. The vertical docks look cheap and lame and don't show the X1 off to it's best, nor do they allow you to use phone the way it was intended.
We need a horizontal cradle that it can sit in with keyboard open like a real desk organiser. Hell, it even looks like Sony could have planned it that way by putting the sync connector on the bottom of the keyboard!
Got one directly from Brando (with spare battery). However it sucks ass. There are several kinds made by some OEM and it differs in number of ports. The Brando one has just one miniUSB input and the adapter just gives 1A. So you can only charge OR sync. So bit useless, as charging phone and battery through USB will take forever and charging phone and/or battery with that adapter would take also significantly longer, than the original CMU-20 and you cannot sync.
I saw one with two ports so you can sync and charge from your socket.. Wonder if mine can be opened and if it has also two ports, just hidden.
But hey, what do you want for 20USD?
Im looking for a wireless car charger, one that can be either attached to the vents, or to the windshield.
Also needs to have latest wireless charging capability without overheating and damaging your phone.
Also needs to be able to drop the phone into its cradle design and hold the phone without it falling out during driving.
I hate having to use both hands to place a phone in a car mount, i wanna be able to just drop it into a holding position and thats it.
This is the current product ive narrowed down to. Can anyone confirm if this is worthwhile or does anyone have other suggestions?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074NR2G9M/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w
thanks
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Im looking for a wireless car charger, one that can be either attached to the vents, or to the windshield.
Also needs to have latest wireless charging capability without overheating and damaging your phone.
Also needs to be able to drop the phone into its cradle design and hold the phone without it falling out during driving.
I hate having to use both hands to place a phone in a car mount, i wanna be able to just drop it into a holding position and thats it.
This is the current product ive narrowed down to. Can anyone confirm if this is worthwhile or does anyone have other suggestions?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074NR2G9M/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w
thanks
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It may be great and work well but I can't trust my $1000 device to a product called iDuDu.... I doodoo on your expensive device. It's just me I guess. Let us know I don't have experience with mobile wireless fast charges. I reserve those for home only until Samsung releases an official one.
Hello! When i was replacing my digitizer i saw that little silver part was free after removing case. I'll link photo of this. Does someone know is this part necessary to work? Usually i have problems with battery. It can turn off like there's no battery left and it only turns on while it's charging. Does this part can affect on this problem?
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That's a shield for what it seems to be the antenna circuitry. Has nothing to do with charging/battery.
It took a weight off my mind I've had problems with wi-fi, but it doesn't disturb me that much. Anyway, is this shield important? What can create this problem with battery? I mean, phone could turn off and couldn't rewoke. It only worked after charging it up for a while (battery usually charged to ~90%) May I buy a new battery?