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Well, I was browsing around the market and my n5 just abruptly shut itself off. It hasn't been able to turn back on since. I've tried every key/charge/magic trick in the book so its DEAD!
Happy to jump in the RMA line at this point but was wondering if any others can confirm DEAD devices. The RMA thread is kinda full of nitpick issues but a dead device is a dead device.
This was the only discussion chain I could find on the issue but maybe someone from google will comment on dead devices. lol
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/lI6A3fA8bvw/d3eQlqEqabEJ
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so it appears holding down both volume buttons + power while it's plugged in to the charger (not USB to PC) will temporarily boot the phone. You can then do a restore to stock and issue gets fixed. :good:
Damn. That blows.
Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!
mrro82 said:
Damn. That blows.
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Ya I got an RMA setup but I've been tryin to turn it on ever since. I managed to figure out it will turn on ONLY when it's plugged in and holding down BOTH volume buttons and power. It will bring up the bootloader and from there I can go into recovery, START (os) but reboot options freeze it again. It's really weird, it won't start by doing the same procedure without the power plugged in. It's like it doesn't want to boot on its own cuz it thinks it's dead? Funny thing is the battery says 100%+ in TWRP.
Since I was able to get it booted tethered to the power I'm going to have it drain the battery to dead and see if it resets itself or something. Maybe a bad idea but I guess I don't care at this point it's already RMAd and I don't know what else to try. lol
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Ya I got an RMA setup but I've been tryin to turn it on ever since. I managed to figure out it will turn on ONLY when it's plugged in and holding down BOTH volume buttons and power. It will bring up the bootloader and from there I can go into recovery, START (os) but reboot options freeze it again. It's really weird, it won't start by doing the same procedure without the power plugged in. It's like it doesn't want to boot on its own cuz it thinks it's dead? Funny thing is the battery says 100%+ in TWRP.
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Do you have a backup you can attempt to restore?
Have you tried to adb into it?
Delete damn it
I would never install twrp.
There is a stock rom in here somewhere. Flash it boot loader and see what happens.
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Do you have a backup you can attempt to restore?
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Ya I restored backed up stock but its same boot issue. Factory reset = same issue. I will try full restore from stock to see if that does anything.
Zenoran said:
Ya I restored backed up stock but its same boot issue. Factory reset = same issue. I will try full restore from stock to see if that does anything.
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hope you figured it out til now.
if not, maybe you should just flash the factory image and see how it goes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701
caribouxda said:
I would never install twrp.
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Why wouldn't you? In situations like this, it is extremely helpful. Do you expect him to install CWM or something? From my understanding, at least when I first got my phone and flash a custom recovery, CWM wasn't booting. If you are here to try and press your opinion on which custom recovery you prefer, go to their official thread.
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floxrin said:
hope you figured it out til now.
if not, maybe you should just flash the factory image and see how it goes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701
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Yep all good now. No explanation to why this happened but recreating the fs and flashing stock seems to have resolved the issue.
Zenoran said:
Yep all good now. No explanation to why this happened but recreating the fs and flashing stock seems to have resolved the issue.
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That's good to hear man. I couldn't imagine how I'd feel if that happened to me. Thankfully XDA us the place that it is and the members, for the most part, have the ability to help us troubleshoot most of our issues.
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My friend recently gave me her old HTC One, and I've been trying to fix it, but I can't quite figure it out.
She said it started bootlooping randomly after she plugged it in to charge. When I first received it I plugged it in and mashed the power button until it turned on. Booted up just fine. But now it's in a stupid bootloop that takes me to a blank desktop with no dock or wallpaper,and then reboots after a few minutes.
Can a battery issue cause this? A complete factory reset from recovery is not an option because I'm trying to save her photos. I don't know how I can get 11gb worth of them off when it's not booting properly.. Any ideas for fixing this or getting the photos off?
Have you tried to wipe data factory reset from recovery ?
That doesn't erase photos
Oh really? I thought it did. This is a stock recovery btw. No root or anything. And it's on 4.1.
rha_december said:
Oh really? I thought it did. This is a stock recovery btw. No root or anything. And it's on 4.1.
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in stock recovery try and erase cache .. Don't factory reset ... everything would be gone
Ughh,... A bit too late. Lost everything and it didn't even fix my problem. Ah well. I think I need to replace the battery anyway. That, and my computer doesn't even detect the phone when I plug it in.
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Oh really? I thought it did. This is a stock recovery btw. No root or anything. And it's on 4.1.
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Oh I'm sorry , i didn't know it was stock recovery.
I assumed custom recovery.
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Oh I'm sorry , i didn't know it was stock recovery.
I assumed custom recovery.
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It's fine. I jumped the gun. Losing some photos had never killed anybody haha..
I should have remembered.. But I haven't done anything with Android for so long because I had been stuck with a locked S4 for a while..
Anyway, I'll replace the battery and see if that helps.
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It's fine. I jumped the gun. Losing some photos had never killed anybody haha..
I should have remembered.. But I haven't done anything with Android for so long because I had been stuck with a locked S4 for a while..
Anyway, I'll replace the battery and see if that helps.
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you realize the One is a 9 out of 10 on difficulty to disassemble
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you realize the One is a 9 out of 10 on difficulty to disassemble
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Yeah, but I've disassembled phones before and I have faith in my hands haha.
Hi. I was just wondering if there is a way to add custom sound to bootanimation on CM12 Roms, or any other ROMS for that matter. Please let me know if there is a way.
If I remember the CyanogenMod sound at boot or shutdown lost support because most people never wanted it.
no boot sounds on the nexis 6
Thanks for letting me know.
You could try this old tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8274824&postcount=2
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You could try this old tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8274824&postcount=2
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that old 5 year old tutorial is for a much older version of android that allowed boot sounds. our nexus doesnt allow boot sounds no matter what you do to it.
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that old 5 year old tutorial is for a much older version of android that allowed boot sounds. our nexus doesnt allow boot sounds no matter what you do to it.
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This may be way wrong, and im not saying anyone else is, but doesnt the AT&T version have the obnoxious boot sound during the boot animation? I just thought i remember that being a complaint.
cloudraker said:
This may be way wrong, and im not saying anyone else is, but doesnt the AT&T version have the obnoxious boot sound during the boot animation? I just thought i remember that being a complaint.
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oh, good point. but i have no idea
I think it was something in the OEM partition. But I can't tell you. I formatted it
hey everyone just picked up a prototype N6 from a buddy and having serious issues rooting this verion. i have rooted my other N6 with no issues but this build (shamu-userdebug l lrw80j 1454210 dev-keys) just wont seem to work if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great ty. this version included a power button on the back of the phone which was nice and why it caught my eye.
What have you tried and where does it fail?
Root is usually unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash supersu from recovery.
The problem you may have if the hardware is different is that the kernel would then be different, meaning there wont be a version of TWRP with a bootable kernel for your device. So just like you cannot run TWRP for a HTC on the Nexus 6, that could be the same case.
oh ok i see what you mean. everytime it gets to the try to temp load twrp it never seems to boot up im using the toolkit .and now it seems that i can't even boot into the system anymore just into fast boot but i can still use the flash boot flash options in root tool kit and i think you are so right about the kernel but just dont know which one to use i tried restoring /baseband /boot/system with a orignal factory 6.0 but individually but not working . is there a different method you think i can try? ty for your help.
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oh ok i see what you mean. everytime it gets to the try to temp load twrp it never seems to boot up im using the toolkit .and now it seems that i can't even boot into the system anymore just fast boot. is there a different method you think i can try? ty for your help
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If you're going to root, recovery is important.
There are apps that can root once booted into android, but you're playing with fire, especially if there hardware is different - as that means you will not have a factory image to flash either. These things are best kept untouched.
Great and I just messed up this systems IMG. cause I'm just stuck at the fastboot now I hope there is away around this. I had a feeling I shouldn't have gotten this version but wanted to be different now it just cost me smfh. Here are the pics of the phone and info
Here are some pics of the phone and build number
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Here are some pics of the phone and build number
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I cant think of a way around it. You could try flashing a stock system.img via fastboot but I cant say I'm hopeful and likely will make things worse. Without custom recovery, it is unlikely that you can repair it.
You can of course try and factory reset it. Who knows, may make it boot?
Yea flashing the system. IMG in fastboot made it worst well I used the new android m system so maybe that's why. Not looking good I hope I can get some answers soon or if maybe someone can mod a system. IMG I can use with this hardware .
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Yea flashing the system. IMG in fastboot made it worst well I used the new android m system so maybe that's why. Not looking good I hope I can get some answers soon or if maybe someone can mod a system. IMG I can use with this hardware .
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I don't think you'll get help here.
to me, it doesnt look like a n6, it looks like a moto x pro..
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to me, it doesnt look like a n6, it looks like a moto x pro..
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It does, but it definitely does have an engineering bootloader and says shamu XT1103, so it's another one of "those"
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It does, but it definitely does have an engineering bootloader and says shamu XT1103, so it's another one of "those"
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yup. i bet it was the moto x pro, but in development still. they probably used all the shamu software on it at first. im curious whether it would take the moto x pro software.
I'm going to try to flash a stock N6 ROM to see if it will load.
Is this prototype the one with fingerprints sensor on the back?
It has a power button on the back.
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Great and I just messed up this systems IMG. cause I'm just stuck at the fastboot now I hope there is away around this. I had a feeling I shouldn't have gotten this version but wanted to be different now it just cost me smfh. Here are the pics of the phone and info
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PM Me if you decide to "part" with it.
Hey guys! So this is a very strange issue. When I power off my nexus, a lot of times I have to wait a good 30 seconds or so before I can power it back on or go into the bootloader. If I power it off, and try to turn it back on fast, it stays black screen almost as of it's frozen or just not responding. I noticed this issue begun when I flashed the radio from N preview 2, and didn't happen before that. My question here, is what could this be? Can the radio really cause odd things like this to happen? Or is there another cause? I am running the newest Android version MOB30I, and have multirom installed with about 4 or so secondaries.
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Hey guys! So this is a very strange issue. When I power off my nexus, a lot of times I have to wait a good 30 seconds or so before I can power it back on or go into the bootloader. If I power it off, and try to turn it back on fast, it stays black screen almost as of it's frozen or just not responding. I noticed this issue begun when I flashed the radio from N preview 2, and didn't happen before that. My question here, is what could this be? Can the radio really cause odd things like this to happen? Or is there another cause? I am running the newest Android version MOB30I, and have multirom installed with about 4 or so secondaries.
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You flashed Npreview radio on a marshmallow build?
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You flashed Npreview radio on a marshmallow build?
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Yes! Yes I did. Could this be an issue?
H4X0R46 said:
Yes! Yes I did. Could this be an issue?
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no. as im using the n preview radio on marshmallow, which is the same radio that came out with the last security update.
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Hey guys! So this is a very strange issue. When I power off my nexus, a lot of times I have to wait a good 30 seconds or so before I can power it back on or go into the bootloader. If I power it off, and try to turn it back on fast, it stays black screen almost as of it's frozen or just not responding. I noticed this issue begun when I flashed the radio from N preview 2, and didn't happen before that. My question here, is what could this be? Can the radio really cause odd things like this to happen? Or is there another cause? I am running the newest Android version MOB30I, and have multirom installed with about 4 or so secondaries.
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im going to guess, try a different kernel. as its the kernel that will boot up the device?
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Yes! Yes I did. Could this be an issue?
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Yes it can. Why did you do that?
Make a backup (android or titatium backup)
Then reflash stock n6 firmware (erase data so put your backup and important files into pc)
Dead-neM said:
Yes it can. Why did you do that?
Make a backup (android or titatium backup)
Then reflash stock n6 firmware (erase data so put your backup and important files into pc)
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the N radio, is the same exact radio that google released for the may security patch. so the N radio, is the latest official radio for the nexus 6. so no, that wont be the problem.
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no. as im using the n preview radio on marshmallow, which is the same radio that came out with the last security update.
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im going to guess, try a different kernel. as its the kernel that will boot up the device?
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I wonder if it is. I'm using the newest Elite kernel for Marshmallow, it's always been my go to kernel. It's strange because after turning the device off, I can't turn it back on instantly, screen stays black as if it's not 100% shut down yet. I have to wait a bit before turning it back on, or entering the bootloader.
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im going to guess, try a different kernel. as its the kernel that will boot up the device?
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No, it's the bootloader that boots the device.
If he's hitting the power button and unable to get to the "Google" splash screen or the bootloader, the kernel is very irrelevant.
I'd be more curious if he's trying to use the bootloader from the N-Preview 2 with MM. Even though I think it's supposed to be backwards compatible, the bootloader is the only thing that would cause that sort of issue.
*technically* I'm pretty sure that you could format /boot (where the kernel is stored) and still get to your bootloader for fastboot and such. So, the kernel is really irrelevant until after the bootloader does it's thing.
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also, there's a reason that these are known as "Developer Previews" not "End-User Previews"... If you don't know how to fix weird issues that pop up like that, you should probably avoid them.
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No, it's the bootloader that boots the device.
If he's hitting the power button and unable to get to the "Google" splash screen or the bootloader, the kernel is very irrelevant.
I'd be more curious if he's trying to use the bootloader from the N-Preview 2 with MM. Even though I think it's supposed to be backwards compatible, the bootloader is the only thing that would cause that sort of issue.
*technically* I'm pretty sure that you could format /boot (where the kernel is stored) and still get to your bootloader for fastboot and such. So, the kernel is really irrelevant until after the bootloader does it's thing.
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also, there's a reason that these are known as "Developer Previews" not "End-User Previews"... If you don't know how to fix weird issues that pop up like that, you should probably avoid them.
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Mmm yes after what said simms22 I've check the n preview and the bootloader is xxx.18 instead of last mm which is xxx.17 but a bootloader downgrade is risky right?
@H4X0R46 do you use the .sh file and update your bootloader and radio with n preview?
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Mmm yes after what said simms22 I've check the n preview and the bootloader is xxx.18 instead of last mm which is xxx.17 but a bootloader downgrade is risky right?
@H4X0R46 do you use the .sh file and update your bootloader and radio with n preview?
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It can be. Normally, once you upgrade, you just stick with the new one as they're backwards compatible normally. But, the ones for the Previews aren't always 100%. The whole reason these previews come out is so that developers can start making their apps compatible prior to the official release. Ideally, this is supposed to be done in emulators not necessarily real devices.
If the 30 second delay in powering back on is *that* big of a deal (to him) to risk bricking the phone by downgrading the bootloader and having something go wrong... I say go for it.
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It can be. Normally, once you upgrade, you just stick with the new one as they're backwards compatible normally. But, the ones for the Previews aren't always 100%. The whole reason these previews come out is so that developers can start making their apps compatible prior to the official release. Ideally, this is supposed to be done in emulators not necessarily real devices.
If the 30 second delay in powering back on is *that* big of a deal (to him) to risk bricking the phone by downgrading the bootloader and having something go wrong... I say go for it.
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Is downgrading the bootloader really risky? I've done it before without issue and never knew this was risky! Are you supposed to just stay with the newest bootloader if you already flashed it? I always flash the bootloader for the image I'm flashing, even if I'm downgrading.
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Mmm yes after what said simms22 I've check the n preview and the bootloader is xxx.18 instead of last mm which is xxx.17 but a bootloader downgrade is risky right?
@H4X0R46 do you use the .sh file and update your bootloader and radio with n preview?
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I flash each partition manually.
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Is downgrading the bootloader really risky? I've done it before without issue and never knew this was risky! Are you supposed to just stay with the newest bootloader if you already flashed it? I always flash the bootloader for the image I'm flashing, even if I'm downgrading.
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It's always risky when you're messing with essentially the lowest level software on the device. For instance, lets say that something happens while you're flashing the bootloader and it corrupts. What do you use to reflash it? You can't get to fastboot anymore...
As long as you know what you're doing, don't have corrupt images, and don't lose power or have lightning strike your computer while you're doing it, you would be fine.
The issue is that many/most people on XDA these days have no idea how to recover from problems or even what problems the things that they're doing might cause. So I tend to approach every situation under the assumption that the other poster may not have a full understanding.
No offense intended of course.
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It's always risky when you're messing with essentially the lowest level software on the device. For instance, lets say that something happens while you're flashing the bootloader and it corrupts. What do you use to reflash it? You can't get to fastboot anymore...
As long as you know what you're doing, don't have corrupt images, and don't lose power or have lightning strike your computer while you're doing it, you would be fine.
The issue is that many/most people on XDA these days have no idea how to recover from problems or even what problems the things that they're doing might cause. So I tend to approach every situation under the assumption that the other poster may not have a full understanding.
No offense intended of course.
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Alright so that's just to be safe then? My laptop sometimes freezes solid out of the blue, uncommon but does happen, and I always thought "what if I'm flashing stuff?" Scary thought. ESPECIALLY the bootloader! So the danger you're referring to is flashing a bootloader in general, not so much downgrading? Like I said, I always match the bootloader to the version I'm running. This is okay?
EDIT: I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check the MD5 checksum for EVERYTHING before flashing. Can never be too safe
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Alright so that's just to be safe then? My laptop sometimes freezes solid out of the blue, uncommon but does happen, and I always thought "what if I'm flashing stuff?" Scary thought. ESPECIALLY the bootloader! So the danger you're referring to is flashing a bootloader in general, not so much downgrading? Like I said, I always match the bootloader to the version I'm running. This is okay?
EDIT: I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check the MD5 checksum for EVERYTHING before flashing. Can never be too safe
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In general, the bootloader needs to match the highest version of android you intend to run. They're typically always backward compatible. On some phones, you can't downgrade the bootloader (at least not easily). This phone you should be fine doing so. However, there's not usually any reason to (backwards compatible afterall).
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In general, the bootloader needs to match the highest version of android you intend to run. They're typically always backward compatible. On some phones, you can't downgrade the bootloader (at least not easily). This phone you should be fine doing so. However, there's not usually any reason to (backwards compatible afterall).
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Cool! Thanks for your input on that! Much appreciated! Yea I'm always wary of the bootloader because like you said, it IS the lowest software on the device. Quick question, if that were to get corrupted, does the device just not boot resulting in permanent brick? Or does it boot just no fastboot access? Might be a noob question, but why not ask lol
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Cool! Thanks for your input on that! Much appreciated! Yea I'm always wary of the bootloader because like you said, it IS the lowest software on the device. Quick question, if that were to get corrupted, does the device just not boot resulting in permanent brick? Or does it boot just no fastboot access? Might be a noob question, but why not ask lol
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Depends, I've never really looked into unbricking this phone. Never had to yet.
Depending on the phone you can use tools like QHUSB and similar which let you reflash partitions just through the USB connection.
I know it's late but it could also be just the rom setup. I know a while ago there were commits that shut the device screen and buttons off before it was done shutting down (to make it appear faster) this made devices seem bricked for a short period. I don't know what ever happen to those commits, so I can't say for sure that it is them. But your issue fits perfectly.
So have I been flashing the bootloader wrong all along? I flashed in twrp a couple times but I try to flash them individually and wipe after flashing.
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Anybody able to find out why? I'm surprised to see I'm not the only one having this issue, it's annoying really.