Hello,
I recently bought a quick charge car charger for my older phone-- will the G4 be able to do quickcharge? I hope so... I mean, I only paid $10 for the charger, but I would like to still be able to use it. Thanks in advance!
the thing is the g4 doesnt actually have quick charing its just the battery it self hold more battery i should say at 100% idk if you noticed but it stays at 100% longer to 99% than 99% to 98% by like alot this is because how the battery itself is designed this was the same with the lg g3
The G4 doesn't have fast charging. You could try using your charger, though no idea how using a fast charger on a non-fast charging phone will work/affect it down to road.
kamend said:
Hello,
I recently bought a quick charge car charger for my older phone-- will the G4 be able to do quickcharge? I hope so... I mean, I only paid $10 for the charger, but I would like to still be able to use it. Thanks in advance!
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The G4 does not have Qualcomm brand QuickCharge 2.0, but it does charge quickly at 1.8 amps, compared to the 2.0 amps in QuickCharge 2.0. Keep in mind, though, that the G4 has a 3000 mAh battery, which will take slightly longer to charge to 100% than a smaller battery at the same current.
An advantage with the G4 compared to the other flagships this year is that with a spare battery, you can bring it to a full charge in less than a minute.
it doesnt have quick charging but it might force a higher voltage per minutes than a normal charger. so in theory it might actually charge it faster.
eaither that or it will just mess with your battery and damage it. good luck. post your results OP. did it charge faster?
Quick charge won't work on the G4, the charger will output 2amps @ 5v like any 2amp charger. If the charger sees the device is quick charge compatible it switches to 1.67 amps @ 9v (15 watts vs 10 watts)
Good news ! LG G4 will be compatible with quick charge!
http://www.phonandroid.com/lg-g4-il...avec-la-recharge-rapide-quick-charge-2-0.html
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misteurz said:
Good news ! LG G4 will be compatible with quick charge!
http://www.phonandroid.com/lg-g4-il...avec-la-recharge-rapide-quick-charge-2-0.html
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Excellent news! Sorts this thread out anyway
I am also having this quick charge but the batter drains after 1 hour.
Haven't tried it yet though but will definitely check on this.
My qualcomm quick charge charger that I bought at Best Buy is working fabulously.
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I bought my qualcomm quick charge charger from Best Buy. I love it so much that I also bought the car version.
Oli2k said:
Quick charge won't work on the G4, the charger will output 2amps @ 5v like any 2amp charger. If the charger sees the device is quick charge compatible it switches to 1.67 amps @ 9v (15 watts vs 10 watts)
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Is there a way to probe that my quick charger is really supplying 9v while charging? I have battery monitor but on widget it only shows mA.
QC 2.0 on this phone is a lie. According to LG that tweeted to me and this website it is QC 2.0 compatible. I have 2 compatible chargers and they charge at best 20% faster than stock charger. Qualcomm's website says that a 3000 MaH battery should charge from 0-60 in 30 minutes. With this phone of and doing nothing it takes nearly 60 minutes to do the same. Double the time!
Absolutely! I bought a Aukey and did the test from zero to full:
Stock charger: 122min
Aukey: 101min
Afaik quickcharge charges fast from zero to 60% and charge normal for the rest to avoid damage on the battery. I can't see any change around 60% in the graph.
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QC 2.0 on this phone is a lie. According to LG that tweeted to me and this website it is QC 2.0 compatible. I have 2 compatible chargers and they charge at best 20% faster than stock charger. Qualcomm's website says that a 3000 MaH battery should charge from 0-60 in 30 minutes. With this phone of and doing nothing it takes nearly 60 minutes to do the same. Double the time!
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Technically it's not a lie. The fine print on Qualcomm's website allows manufacturers to implement QC 2.0 in their own way. So it's in the phone but LG has implemented it in a way that it's crippled.
I think someone discussed this on You Tube during a review of the G4 and they stated that a update was coming to the G4 later on in the year for Quick Charging. Don't know why it didn't ship with it. This phone is not living up to the hype. I normally don't buy phones when they first drop but i just like everybody else I brought in to the promotion and I wish I would've held off. Just saying.
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I've been using my HTC Rapid Charger Quick Charge 2.0 with my new Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet and it charges in just under 3 hours for a 0 to 100% charge.
Not sure what the standard charge time is with the stock charger, since I haven't even taken it out of the box Just easier for me to use the same charge and cable to charge both my phone and tablet. Has anyone else measured that?
My HTC One M8 usually gets quite hot during quick charging, but didn't notice the same thing with the Z2. It only went up to around 35 degrees at the highest, for a short while.
I need 4.5 hours with stock charger (15% to 100%).
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So 2.0 quick charging is working?
Do you really get 60% in first 30 minutes with HTC charger?
Yes, it's listed here:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0
Does anybody know where to buy a quickcharge 2.0 charger with a euro plug?
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So 2.0 quick charging is working?
Do you really get 60% in first 30 minutes with HTC charger?
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No, those 60% in 30 mins is claimed with a much smaller phone battery..not with our 6000 mAh tablet battery. On my HTC One M8, it gets to about 50% in 30 mins.
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Does anybody know where to buy a quickcharge 2.0 charger with a euro plug?
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Are you from Denmark? I bought mine from here: http://www.mytrendyphone.dk/shop/htc-tc-p1000-164522p.html
Not the cheapest option, but the only one with euro plug that i could find.
got official answer:
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
To be able to utilise the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology, the smartphone or tablet as well as the charger need to support Quick Charge 2.0. If you want to use a magnetic charging dock, this must also support Quick Charge 2.0.
Currently, there are no original Sony chargers that support the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology. This means that, at present, you cannot charge Xperia™ devices using original Sony chargers utilising Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
However, some Xperia™ devices and magnetic charging docks are prepared for and support the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology. Again, as there is currently no original Sony charger that supports Quick charge 2.0, these devices cannot utilise Quick Charge 2.0 using an original Sony charger.
Regarding the charge time, according to our environmental declaration a full charge takes 5.8 hours while the tablet is turned off.
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Wow, a normal full charge takes 5.8 hours? Even with tablet off..that sounds a bit crazy. Then im definitely glad i'm using the Quickcharger and getting it done in half that time..even with the tablet powered on.
As for the magnetic charger, it has been confirmed in other Xperia forums that Sony's dock and magnet supports Quickcharging, but most 3rd party ones don't. I'm using some cheap magnetic connector from eBay, and it charges quite slow (and half the times the magnet doesn't even keep it connected and it keeps falling off )
from my experience tablet charges in 4 hours (even if it`s turned on, from original SOny charger 1.5A 5V), from 20-30% to full. So this estimation is correct.
Anyone can recommend a good ansd cheap charger that support QC 2.0 or there already some thread about this on XDA somewhere?
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from my experience tablet charges in 4 hours (even if it`s turned on, from original SOny charger 1.5A 5V), from 20-30% to full. So this estimation is correct.
Anyone can recommend a good ansd cheap charger that support QC 2.0 or there already some thread about this on XDA somewhere?
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Not sure where you are from but there are several good and cheap ones on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OVD3FEU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...obile_desktop?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
There is not really any difference between all of them, as long as they are certified by Qualcomm to work with QC 2.0.
There's a list of all certified chargers on this page: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
and here is an especial cheap offer http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
So... do ALL z2 Tablets support QuickCharge 2.0 ? Because only the Japanese Z2 Phone supports Quickcharge!
Cool.
My quick charger that came with my samsung galaxy s6 initiates rapid charging on my z2 table, it even says rapidly charging when I plug it in
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Haldi4803 said:
and here is an especial cheap offer http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
So... do ALL z2 Tablets support QuickCharge 2.0 ? Because only the Japanese Z2 Phone supports Quickcharge!
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I'm from the UK, I have a UK model and it quick charges fine with my samsung galaxy s6 charger which is a higher rated charger
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I am looking for best car charger, my phone will be all day on in the car, and I am looking for best solution for charging in the car, and fastest.
I found few good chargers but not sure are they support quick charge
Samsung OEM ECA-U21CBE Micro-USB 2-Amp Rapid In-Car Power Charger
and
Car Charger, iOttie RapidVolt 5Amp/25-Watt Dual Port USB Car Charger
Or is there some third better solution? Sorry I can't post links
thank you
anything above 2A is consider fast/rapid charge and barely any difference than the "quick charge" not to mention, saving a few mintues might do more harm than good to your replaceable battery.. at 2A, the phone will go from 6-10% battery to 50% in about 25 minutes.
Anker:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
Ottie:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTBOUWO/
I have the Anker and would buy it again, and has tons of positive reviews..
Thank you, what about Verizon Quick Charge 2.0?
I have used Verizon QUALCOMM version and would recommend the quick charge version if you want to take advantage of the quick charge. If time to charge I not an issue then obviously any high amp charger like the units cited above such as iottie would work
Is quick charge healthy for battery in my case? Or maybe should I get slower one?
I am using the Airdock.
While I can't say I loved it with the S5 (was falling off) the flat back of the Edge fits perfectly on it so I'm much happier with it.
Fun streaming video, back passengers can watch video off of it with the car speakers...
works well.
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While I can't say I loved it with the S5 (was falling off) the flat back of the Edge fits perfectly on it so I'm much happier with it.
Fun streaming video, back passengers can watch video off of it with the car speakers...
works well.
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I think we are talking about chargers
TozABG said:
I think we are talking about chargers
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Airdock is a wireless charger.
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Is quick charge healthy for battery in my case? Or maybe should I get slower one?
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faster charging will always put a bit more wear on battery than charging at a slower rate. most people here will probably swap devices often so probably doesn't matter for them. if you plan to keep your device for a few years and want max battery life then maybe use a 5V 2A charger instead (one that i've linked to above).
2A is still "fast charge" the only difference is it's Quick Charge 1.0 which is at 5 Volts compared to Quick Charge 2.0 that runs at 9 Volts.
better example:
Quick Charge 1.0 - 5V @ 2A (5V * 2A) = 10 Watts of power
If your phone is at around 8-10% you'll get to about 50% charge in about 30 minutes.
Quick Charge 2.0 - 9V @ 1.7A (9V * 1.7A) = 15 Watts of power (up to 12V * 3A = 36 watts for some tablets)
If your phone is at around 8-10% you'll get to about 50% charge in about 20-25 minutes.
Quick Charge 2.0 will only be a little bit faster once the battery gets to around 50-60%, then it will throttle down to Quick Charge 1.0 rates to keep the battery from getting too hot and causing excessive wear.
All Quick Charge 2.0 devices are also backwards compatible with Quick Charge 1.0, meaning that you can use a Quick Charge 2.0 device with a Quick Charge 1.0 supply, and visa versa.
In short: Quick Charge 2.0 will only save you about 15 minutes to completely charge your phone compared to the normal 5V @ 2A chargers.
Get Verizons branded car charger with fast charge. Workscexcellent, and AND has a little flashlight right above the micro charge plug, which comes in super handy in dark car. Very well made.
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anything above 2A is consider fast/rapid charge and barely any difference than the "quick charge" not to mention, saving a few mintues might do more harm than good to your replaceable battery.. at 2A, the phone will go from 6-10% battery to 50% in about 25 minutes.
Anker:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
Ottie:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTBOUWO/
I have the Anker and would buy it again, and has tons of positive reviews..
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Thats not true, Yes its better
if you want Fast charge it has to have 9v out
others have 5v out even tho some have a 2.4amp out not a fast rapid charger
Good Car charger
Search Amazon for ASIN:B00ZA1E3IE
I've got two of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Getwow-Charge-Dual-Port-Charger-Adapter/dp/B00V347I9S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437142458&sr=8-2&keywords=getwow+quick+charge+2.0&pebp=1437142467005&perid=0CTJ7JA68RAQ65CF2GVN
One in my car for my S6 Edge, one in my wife's SUV for her Note 4. Both work fantastic. They have one QC 2.0 port and one 2A port. Check it out!
Not sure whether this Car Air Conditioner Vent Mount is for you or not.
This looks like same as adaptive fast wall charger:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-LN915UBESTA
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4JGELS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Did anyone try it?
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This looks like same as adaptive fast wall charger:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-LN915UBESTA
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4JGELS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Did anyone try it?
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I bought this one. Didn't fully test yet but when I plug this, it says "fast charging". It would be better if this has light notification. But it's good that it charges fast.
I bought a few QC2.0 chargers for my AT&T G4:
2-pack Samsung Adaptive Fast Charge AC chargers: .walmart.com/ip/45734981
Tronsmart Dual Car charger: .ebay.com/itm/191645992162
Aliexpress knock-off single QC2.0 car charger: .aliexpress.com/item/Qualcomm-Quick-Charge-2-0-Stand-USB-QC2-0-Car-Charger-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S6-HTC/32364542508.html
..... and compared with the performance of the STOCK LG G4 1.8 Amp (non-QC2.0) charger.
[Note: front end of URLs ( h tt p : w w w.....) left off since newbies like me can not post external links]
I charged my G4 with power OFF, and used Battery Monitor Widget
( play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw )
to measure before and after % remaining,
I "generally" began the charge cycle when the %remaining was low (3-16%, 11% average)
and charged for about an hour (52 minute average)
For each I repeated the test 2-3 times.
Here are the results:
Stock Charger: 1.033 avg, 1.04 max % per minute
Samsung: 1.249 avg, 1.300 max % per minute
Tronsmart: 1.248 avg, 1.290 max % per minute
AliExpress: 1.221 avg, 1.270 max % per minute
So.... even though QC2.0 CLAIMS to charge up to 75% faster, my results were closer to 25% faster
All the QC2.0 chargers were rather consistent in their performance.
I found ambient temperature was an important factor.
The 1st test with the AliExpress was done in a closed car on a 110F day (without AC on)
I got 0.25%/min - but disqualified this result due to the temp extreme
(All other car charger tests were done with car running while driving with AC on)
I'd be interested in seeing if anyone else can test their chargers similarly and post the results here.
I thought QC chargers only quick charged QC compatible devices?
G4
And G4 is QC2.0 compatible, isn't it?
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iresq said:
I thought QC chargers only quick charged QC compatible devices?
G4
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They do. The Qualcomm website claims that G4 is QC 2.0.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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I would think testing closer to 70° would be wiser.
I get this spike using my 2.0 charger, it never stays that high for longer than 10seconds.
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Que QC 2.0 on the G4 is a joke, it barely doesn't even exist.
I can't even use my quickcharge 2.0 charger. Anyone know why that may be the case? I'm on software version G, the charger works perfectly fine with my note 4 for quick charge but not on the G4... It's a GETWOW qualcomm quick charge 2.0 charger
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I get this spike using my 2.0 charger, it never stays that high for longer than 10seconds.
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Your battery is 90% full, is it any different if your battery is lower, like 10%?
My Keedox qc 2.0 is charging my g4 faster than my ex-m9! It can fully charge from 45 to 100% in 30 mins only, it was 50 mins with the m9!!!
No complaints from my Quick Charger
Ive got the uk plug aukey single port quick charge 2.0. Did a timed charge last night 14->48% 25minutes (1.36%/minute), 48->71% 16 minutes (1.44%/minute), 71->92% 19minutes (1.11%/minute) - total time from 14% to 92% one hour (1.3%/min) so about the same as OP test.
With custom kernel we should be able to reach much higher charging rates...on g2 with dorimanx kernel i never saw anything below 1600 and got up to 21xx
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Que QC 2.0 on the G4 is a joke, it barely doesn't even exist.
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Agree. I use aukey QC 2.0 3 port. Using QC 2.0 port, or just the same charging time using stock charger. From 5%-100%, both need time about 105 minute. No different. I sold my aukey.
Aukey using 9v (8.9v exactly) and 5v for stock charging.
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Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.
gomcse2002 said:
Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.
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P9 doesn't support fast charging
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Akhayev said:
P9 doesn't support fast charging
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HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
anyone who can provide a link to where i can buy one with an eu plug?
I'm considering buying this phone over the S7 (although still undecided) and I still don't get the battery thing (charging or battery life, I get people telling me all sorts of contradictory things that I'm having a hard time to fact check). That 9V/2A charger doesn't come with the phone, right? How much faster is that Huawei charger compared with the 5V that comes with the phone and what is it called since I can't find it on their site or anywhere? Is that the Mate 8 charger?
Yes it's mate 8 charger
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Yes it's mate 8 charger
Отправлено с моего EVA-L09 через Tapatalk
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Cheers! :good:
scedric57 said:
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wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?
Well, no EU plug still available. But it will be later I think. It is not QC 2 or 3, it won't work. Search for "Huawei 9V 2A Charger".
The result should be like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-9V...hash=item280f7d97a4:m:mNQwKZr7I5KHReS9CA2RwkA
As I metioned, no EU plug yet, so via adapter only.
Milamber said:
Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?
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Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)
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Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)
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Perfect, he had 3 and I nailed 2 of them
Hopefully these will quick charge.
Please post results!
The photo shows it is 5V 2A charger, so it is a standart, not a Huawei Quick Charge (9V 2A).
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wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?
Kutusov said:
Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?
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hi i never look before
i just charge now at 21h59 and 46% i will post the result at 100%
Edit: 100% at 23h02 ( 54% in 1h00 approximatly) but when i have the time i will try a full charge because the fast charge is more active at the start and midle of charging
With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes
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With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes
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Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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to be confirmed
scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
I'm really on the fence about this fast charging thing now. I never got it. Qualcomm's has its QC 2.0 tech but a Motorola charger is faster than any other. An S7 Edge with amuch bigger battery charges as fast as an HTC 10 and the Edge has a 2.0 QC and the HTC is 3.0. The G5 is also 3.0 and charges way faster than the HTC, even compensating for the different battery capacity. And I own a G2 which has no fast charging at all and will charge from 0 to 100% in less than 2 hours on a 5V generic charger, which isn't very far off the times I see with 3000mah batteries and Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0... Why these differences?? No idea... Somehow I think battery chemistry has a lot to do with it (it does in the RC and electronic cigarette world) but I never see anyone addressing that.
^^^^sorry for the rambling, just thinking/writing out loud
Kutusov said:
It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
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Nearly right! A little analogy may help... Think of Voltage (V) as the diameter of the water tap, Ampage (A) as the speed of the water through the tap and Wattage (W) as how quick you want the bath the taps are filling!
So you can see, a small diameter tap but high water speed will still not fill bath very quickly, neither will a big diameter tap and slow water speed...you need both together. So 9V2A should charge quicker than 5V2A (18W compared to 10W).
As I understand it the P9 will accept charging at 9V and 2A (their Fast Charging) giving max 18W input so a 9V2A charger should give the best results (which is what the P8's fast charger is)...and what the qualcomm quick charge 2.0 (and 3.0) spec can provide. Now i'm not saying the P9 is a qualcomm quick charge phone, it's not, but my QC2.0 and 3.0 car chargers certainly charge my phone quicker than the included mains charger! So i suspect that the car chargers are providing 9V2A to the phone.
Whether this means any 9V2A charger would do......I don't know
Hello!
i've bought Nillkin Disk Charger III which support fast charge (9V/1.7A max 10W) so does original Sony XZ2 charger and XZ2 itself. Sadly, when charging using Nillkin, XZ2 uses normal charging mode, not fast. 25% in hour. Only 400-500mA on wireless charger vs 2600mA on cable. With or without phone case, doesn't matter.
What can I do to charge it faster?
Bump.
Buy offical one by Sony
I use this one and all is fine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KJL4XNY/?tag=flv-21&ascsubtag=6987aeb4-b272-4b5f-935b-f94acfec1a3d
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I use this one and all is fine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KJL4XNY/?tag=flv-21&ascsubtag=6987aeb4-b272-4b5f-935b-f94acfec1a3d
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Can you download Ampere app from the play store and run it while charging on this Anker pad. Let us know if this one can really charge the XZ2 beyond the standard 5w speed. Report the mah if it can exceed the 800mah standard qi rate. Remember, fast wireless charging at 9-10w should be around 1400 to 1500mah.
I have tried 7 different brands of fast 10w wireless chargers so far (but not an Anker yet). None of them can exceed 800mah on the XZ2. I wonder if the official Sony one can really do it at 1500mah.
So, please use Ampere and report back your results with the Anker, thank you!
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Can you download Ampere app from the play store and run it while charging on this Anker pad. Let us know if this one can really charge the XZ2 beyond the standard 5w speed. Report the mah if it can exceed the 800mah standard qi rate. Remember, fast wireless charging at 9-10w should be around 1400 to 1500mah.
I have tried 7 different brands of fast 10w wireless chargers so far (but not an Anker yet). None of them can exceed 800mah on the XZ2. I wonder if the official Sony one can really do it at 1500mah.
So, please use Ampere and report back your results with the Anker, thank you!
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max with the Anker QI charger was 760mA. I use it to charge it at my office. I never cared about the charging speed A friends Galaxy S9 can use 1420mah with the same charger.
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Can you download Ampere app from the play store and run it while charging on this Anker pad. Let us know if this one can really charge the XZ2 beyond the standard 5w speed. Report the mah if it can exceed the 800mah standard qi rate. Remember, fast wireless charging at 9-10w should be around 1400 to 1500mah.
I have tried 7 different brands of fast 10w wireless chargers so far (but not an Anker yet). None of them can exceed 800mah on the XZ2. I wonder if the official Sony one can really do it at 1500mah.
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I think this video can give you an idea of the Sony wch20 charging profile: https://youtu.be/BnasDqGFcFg close to 1500mah but not for a long time.
I too have a similar question. But it's about maximum allowed power for XZ2 wireless charging.
I just talked with Sony support and they too have no clue how XZ2 Qi wireless work. They told me better to buy (if at all) other brands' chargers with output NOT exceeding 9W, since it is the maximum output by the official Sony wireless charger.
But apparently some 3rd party brand reps told me that Sony uses Qi 3.0 and 10W chargers are completely fine. And all fast charger on Amazon output 10W with Qi 3.0 adapter.
So I am really confused whether those faster charger is safe for XZ2 at all.
'And it is very confusing that the Sony original adaptor has 3 working power: 5 V 2.7A DC, 9V 1.8 A DC, 12 V 1.35 A DC.
What do you guys think?
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'And it is very confusing that the Sony original adaptor has 3 working power: 5 V 2.7A DC, 9V 1.8 A DC, 12 V 1.35 A DC.
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That's called Qualcomm Quick Charge.
While USB is specified for 5V QuickCharge 2.0 can use 5V, 9V and 12V (not used in phones).
QC 3.0 is even better as it has adaptive Voltage scaling from 4V to 9V theoretically.
Practically it's around 4.6 to 7.5V changing fluently during the charger process.
For normal cable powered charging the device itself decides how much amperage it wants to draw. The wall charger can only set an upper limit like 'only has 1.5A at 5V'
As wireless charging sends out power I think there is a communication between sender and receiver which handles the power output. Haven't really read much about that though.
Hi,
Has anyone found a charger other than the official one that will charge at more than 5W? I bought a 10W wireless charger from Amazon and it only charges at 5V 1A whereas the same charger charges a friends iPhone at 7.55V 1A. Has Sony built something into the phone/software that only enables 9W charging with the official dock?
Thanks
980ctane said:
Hi,
Has anyone found a charger other than the official one that will charge at more than 5W? I bought a 10W wireless charger from Amazon and it only charges at 5V 1A whereas the same charger charges a friends iPhone at 7.55V 1A. Has Sony built something into the phone/software that only enables 9W charging with the official dock?
Thanks
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Not so far. Got a Seneo fast wireless charger and some other brand I can't remember the name of; both tried with multiple QC charging packs I have lying around (and even Sony's brick supplied with the phone). According to AccuBattery, the XZ2 never pulls more than around 700 mAh, while my Lumia 950 XL hovers around 1700.
I'm thinking you're right, there is something special the XZ2 looks for in their WCH20 wireless charger unfortunately. I've tried turning Battery Care on and off too but that hasn't changed anything as far as raising the current draw.
I really have to try it when the battery is below 20% though to be a fair test.
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Not so far. Got a Seneo fast wireless charger and some other brand I can't remember the name of; both tried with multiple QC charging packs I have lying around (and even Sony's brick supplied with the phone). According to AccuBattery, the XZ2 never pulls more than around 700 mAh, while my Lumia 950 XL hovers around 1700.
I'm thinking you're right, there is something special the XZ2 looks for in their WCH20 wireless charger unfortunately. I've tried turning Battery Care on and off too but that hasn't changed anything as far as raising the current draw.
I really have to try it when the battery is below 20% though to be a fair test.
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Update: So I bought an Anker Powerwave wireless charger and QC3.0 adapter which Anker claim supports 10W charging on the XZ2. I have tested it and it charges at 7.45V at 1.2 Amps so not quite 10W but it charges from 0 to 100% in 2 hours 50 minutes which is much better than the first wireless charger i bought which took over 4 hours 30 minutes at 5W. Hope this helps.
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Update: So I bought an Anker Powerwave wireless charger and QC3.0 adapter which Anker claim supports 10W charging on the XZ2. I have tested it and it charges at 7.45V at 1.2 Amps so not quite 10W but it charges from 0 to 100% in 2 hours 50 minutes which is much better than the first wireless charger i bought which took over 4 hours 30 minutes at 5W. Hope this helps.
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actually, 7.45v at 1.2A is 9 watts. Which is reportedly the XZ2's peak draw.
A couple questions:
What did you use to check the charging stats? (I'm using AccuBattery currently). I don't think the latest Xperia phones have any fast charge indications like some other OEM's do.
Was the 7.45V/1.2 amps reading at 0% battery?
Was Battery Care enabled?
Did you happen to check the charge levels at various times during the 2h 50m and see if it fluctuated?
I'm using an Anker QC 3.0 charger with my Seneo which charges great over USB, so I don't think my problem is the charger. I'm going to let mine go to below 20% and try again.
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actually, 7.45v at 1.2A is 9 watts. Which is reportedly the XZ2's peak draw.
A couple questions:
What did you use to check the charging stats? (I'm using AccuBattery currently). I don't think the latest Xperia phones have any fast charge indications like some other OEM's do.
Was the 7.45V/1.2 amps reading at 0% battery?
Was Battery Care enabled?
Did you happen to check the charge levels at various times during the 2h 50m and see if it fluctuated?
I'm using an Anker QC 3.0 charger with my Seneo which charges great over USB, so I don't think my problem is the charger. I'm going to let mine go to below 20% and try again.
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I use accurate battery on every device I maintain.
At least to give an alert, if 80% battery capacity is reached during charging.
eelpout said:
actually, 7.45v at 1.2A is 9 watts. Which is reportedly the XZ2's peak draw.
A couple questions:
What did you use to check the charging stats? (I'm using AccuBattery currently). I don't think the latest Xperia phones have any fast charge indications like some other OEM's do.
Was the 7.45V/1.2 amps reading at 0% battery?
Was Battery Care enabled?
Did you happen to check the charge levels at various times during the 2h 50m and see if it fluctuated?
I'm using an Anker QC 3.0 charger with my Seneo which charges great over USB, so I don't think my problem is the charger. I'm going to let mine go to below 20% and try again.
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Sorry, yes I know its almost 9W. I was just making the point that it didn't reach the 10W Anker claim it can.
I use an inline USB amp meter...
The 7.45V 1.2 amps was from 0% to 70% after that it was 7.45v 1.0 amp until 100%
The 1.2 amps could only be achieved by careful positioning on the pad, if it was slightly to the left/right it would drop to 1.0 amp.
Battery care was disabled.
Thanks
980ctane said:
Sorry, yes I know its almost 9W. I was just making the point that it didn't reach the 10W Anker claim it can.
I use an inline USB amp meter...
The 7.45V 1.2 amps was from 0% to 70% after that it was 7.45v 1.0 amp until 100%
The 1.2 amps could only be achieved by careful positioning on the pad, if it was slightly to the left/right it would drop to 1.0 amp.
Battery care was disabled.
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I think the 9W cap is Sony, not the Anker.
I'm going to send back my Seneo, obviously something is not working right with the XZ2 regards fast charging. Tried it with several different QC chargers, moving it around on the pad etc..
Thanks!
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I think the 9W cap is Sony, not the Anker.
I'm going to send back my Seneo, obviously something is not working right with the XZ2 regards fast charging. Tried it with several different QC chargers, moving it around on the pad etc..
Thanks!
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No problem
I would love to test out the WCH20 but in the UK Sony want £129. Have found it on Amazon for £70 but it's still silly money for a charging dock!
If you're considering the Anker Powerwave, it is very good. My only gripe is even though it stops charging once the phone reaches 100%, the cooling fan keeps running until you remove the phone from the pad which seems like an oversight.
Cheers.
Monolithus said:
Hello!
i've bought Nillkin Disk Charger III which support fast charge (9V/1.7A max 10W) so does original Sony XZ2 charger and XZ2 itself. Sadly, when charging using Nillkin, XZ2 uses normal charging mode, not fast. 25% in hour. Only 400-500mA on wireless charger vs 2600mA on cable. With or without phone case, doesn't matter.
What can I do to charge it faster?
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I have the Nilkin charging stand for my XZ2 Premium and I am more than happy, it takes about 2hrs to go from 50% to full charge, it will never be as fast as wired charging, and the battery life on the Premium is great, I can easily get 2 days but would rarely need that.
Sony WCH20 can do 1700 mAh but only to 50% of battery charge. After that it is slower 1400 mAh and that again slower.
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Update: So I bought an Anker Powerwave wireless charger and QC3.0 adapter which Anker claim supports 10W charging on the XZ2. I have tested it and it charges at 7.45V at 1.2 Amps...
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I use an inline USB amp meter...
The 7.45V 1.2 amps was from 0% to 70% after that it was 7.45v 1.0 amp until 100%
The 1.2 amps could only be achieved by careful positioning on the pad, if it was slightly to the left/right it would drop to 1.0 amp.
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Guess I'll have to try the Anker Powerwave (which one did you get if I may ask?). I tried yet another brand, which again, fast charges my old Lumia 950 XL just fine around 1600 mAh, but the XZ2 refuses to go beyond ~700 mAh. Wondering if it's my phone or the XZ2's coil is just in a weird spot.
I'll have to spring for an inline USB meter. maybe it'll help me find the "sweet spot."