Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a Tab S 8.4. I was reading that some time ago it was possible to root without tripping Knox. If my new Tab S comes with an old firmware that is rootable while keeping Knox at 0x0, is it possible to upgrade to Lollipop while keeping root and Knox at 0x0? I'm getting this tablet for multitasking, so I want root to enable multi window for all apps, among other things. Thanks for any help!
ragnarokx said:
Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a Tab S 8.4. I was reading that some time ago it was possible to root without tripping Knox. If my new Tab S comes with an old firmware that is rootable while keeping Knox at 0x0, is it possible to upgrade to Lollipop while keeping root and Knox at 0x0? I'm getting this tablet for multitasking, so I want root to enable multi window for all apps, among other things. Thanks for any help!
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as long as you use the official lollipop update from samsung you will not trip knox. but if you root by any method that will trip knox counter.
ragnarokx said:
Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a Tab S 8.4. I was reading that some time ago it was possible to root without tripping Knox. If my new Tab S comes with an old firmware that is rootable while keeping Knox at 0x0, is it possible to upgrade to Lollipop while keeping root and Knox at 0x0? I'm getting this tablet for multitasking, so I want root to enable multi window for all apps, among other things. Thanks for any help!
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The tab s has never been rooted without tripping Knox. Even if it's on and old firmware, towelroot is still patched. Either way your going to have to trip Knox in order to gain root.
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DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The tab s has never been rooted without tripping Knox. Even if it's on and old firmware, towelroot is still patched. Either way your going to have to trip Knox in order to gain root.
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Oops, looks like I was looking at a thread for the Pro 8.4, not the S 8.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786800
My main concern was limited Multi Window functionality without root. But I've read about some apps that let you add to Multi Window without root. Anyone have experience with it?
Yes, I'm using the app you linked to. It depends on which app you would like to make multi window compatible. The bad thing is, that this app itself must be modified by MW-Pen App Enabler and you install a modified copy of that app after the modification process. It (by far) does not work with all apps, but with some (e.g. Skype) I had success.
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Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
ilmar72 said:
Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
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If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
Hey where can I download your rom
Wrong section buddy
Well I just figured out tonight that LMT does work in this phone without root. At least the pie wheel does. I haven't tried any gestures yet.
So this makes me happy
Edit: I see this is nothing new. Lmt says root is needed for gestures and isas
theeze said:
If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
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Good point. But is it true that we won't be able to flash new radios?
Hey everyone,
I've been playing around with my AT&T S6 Edge so much that I flashed over the stock firmware and was forced to use odin to get my phone back to normal. While I was re-flashing I noticed that in the downloader it now stated "KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 1 (0x0308)". I had rooted just fine without tripping knox but I obviously tripped knox when I installed the bad flash.
I know it's possible on other models, but is there any way to go about resetting Knox back to "0" on the S6 Edge yet?
What "other models" is it possible to reset KNOX?
I should probably have been more careful before I said 'other models', no S6 edge to my knowledge but according to what I've read and seen videos of, the Note 3 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740340 ) has had it done successfully so I was hoping an option for the S6 edge is available.
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What "other models" is it possible to reset KNOX?
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How do we root the 925a?
It's very simple and straight forward, just follow the directions given here using PingPong Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
kajet915 said:
How do we root the 925a?
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Ok, so i googled a bit and do see that some people have had issues trying this, but most of the examples i was reading were on devices from carriers with locked bootloaders. Since the tmo version has an unloacked BL was wondering if anyone has tried this or not?
I was thinking of simply using flashify or twrp manager to install recovery from within my currently rooted (superuser) rom. Most people that have tried using locked bootloaders endup with a soft brick from what i have seen. Just not sure how much the unlocked bootloader would help us in this situation.
I know i can just use CF auto root but was trying to do it without tripping knox really. However, i have never had issues with any warranty through tmobile (rooted, tripped knox, whatever) and with the announcement of android pay, i am way less interested in samsung pay so tripped knox wouldnt be the end of the world... but still curious
EDIT: So apparently chainfire just released something called flashfire that appears it can do exactly what i am looking for. Anyone else looking for the same should check it out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
So, this will not trip knox? I'm currently stock waiting for the 5.1 update to see if it's worth it to keep stock or root my phone. I just want to root it so bad because I could hypothetically get double battery life with the tweaks I would do. I'm interested in Samsung Pay (sorta) but if Google Wallet/Android Pay will have the same functions, then IDC.
darklime said:
So, this will not trip knox? I'm currently stock waiting for the 5.1 update to see if it's worth it to keep stock or root my phone. I just want to root it so bad because I could hypothetically get double battery life with the tweaks I would do. I'm interested in Samsung Pay (sorta) but if Google Wallet/Android Pay will have the same functions, then IDC.
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If you install recovery no matter what method it will trip. For Roms, Flashfire won't trip as long as you don't flash boot.img aka kernel. You need to remove it before flashing
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
ronniler said:
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
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You'll lose Samsung pay.
Not sure about exchange server, but my guess is that depends on security setting on the server.
Good luck.
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thanks dandrumheller
I did more investigation on how some companies (including mine) does this and after some documents from my own IT deparment i saw they were mentioning KNOX. So if KNOX is tripped, many of those in house apps to check email, store files, and conferencing probably will not work. So.... i can't trip the knox.....
I will have to wait for more developement to be done on ATT S6 6.0.1 in order to root it without tripping knox.... Probably it will NEVER happen since it has been more than a year since android 6 was released and there is no much out there :'(
I will keep my s4 that works like a charm!
dandrumheller said:
You'll lose Samsung pay.
Not sure about exchange server, but my guess is that depends on security setting on the server.
Good luck.
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It's possible to flash TWRP?
ronniler said:
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
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Yeah. You could very well brick your phone. The bootloader checks each partition.
And if it doesn't, I'm sure your company's MDM software will detect either an attempted root or the tripped Knox and remotely wipe your phone for violating policy.
LordNature said:
It's possible to flash TWRP?
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Not that I know of, but it seemed like the poster I responded to thought he could do it. I was just commenting on the consequences of tripped Knox.
Is it possible to downgrade from 6.0.1 (PJ1) to 5.1.1(Oj7 I think)? In my case I would like to go back to 5.1 to get access to the tethered root and I don't care if Knox trips on my device.
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Not that I know of, but it seemed like the poster I responded to thought he could do it. I was just commenting on the consequences of tripped Knox.
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That's what I thought. I'm currently still stuck on 5.0.1 with a locked boot loader and no custom ROM/kernel.
I'll just rely on my trusty KLWP to 'rice' my phone.
What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...
mjoude said:
What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...
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short answer: no, you cant reset knox back to 0x0.
The reason i didn't root was that i lose more functionality than i gain and there's no going back to knox 0x0 after that. I couldn't imagine my S3 Mini or S5 without root but my Note9 is perfect without root as many things that were available only with root in the past are included in the stock firmware or in Good Lock modules.
yaibakt said:
short answer: no, you cant reset knox back to 0x0.
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https://www.knoxreset.com
What about..?
mjoude said:
https://www.knoxreset.com
What about..?
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It's a scam. The Knox flag is indicating the state of an eFuse, which can't be changed nor reverted.
Shadowprince94 said:
It's a scam. The Knox flag is indicating the state of an eFuse, which can't be changed nor reverted.
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The ONLY way to get KNOX back to 0X0 is to replace the mainboard...
You can get a rooted phone to display KNOX as 0X0 but it is cosmetic only and won't fool any apps that don't work on a rooted phone.
If you haven't replaced the boot file, rooted or replaced the recovery then an app you have installed likely is malware that has tried or successfully gained root privileges...
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Simple answer NO i made a mistake rooting my Tab S4 i'm never ever rooting unless i get a SnapDragon as they i heard you can root without trpping Knox! Also root is not needed as we have Youtube Vanced, Disconnect Pro! Package Disabler Pro, and #Mono oh forgot about Goodlock! Unless your planning on running Custom Roms it's simply not worth Rooting! As it's to much headache to root update reroot etc!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Simple answer NO i made a mistake rooting my Tab S4 i'm never ever rooting unless i get a SnapDragon as they i heard you can root without trpping Knox! Also root is not needed as we have Youtube Vanced, Disconnect Pro! Package Disabler Pro, and #Mono oh forgot about Goodlock! Unless your planning on running Custom Roms it's simply not worth Rooting! As it's to much headache to root update reroot etc!
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This^ I also removed a few preinstalled apps via ADB and granted one permission for Tasker via ADB as well. Root was mandatory in the past but not any more at all.