Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
ronniler said:
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
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You'll lose Samsung pay.
Not sure about exchange server, but my guess is that depends on security setting on the server.
Good luck.
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thanks dandrumheller
I did more investigation on how some companies (including mine) does this and after some documents from my own IT deparment i saw they were mentioning KNOX. So if KNOX is tripped, many of those in house apps to check email, store files, and conferencing probably will not work. So.... i can't trip the knox.....
I will have to wait for more developement to be done on ATT S6 6.0.1 in order to root it without tripping knox.... Probably it will NEVER happen since it has been more than a year since android 6 was released and there is no much out there :'(
I will keep my s4 that works like a charm!
dandrumheller said:
You'll lose Samsung pay.
Not sure about exchange server, but my guess is that depends on security setting on the server.
Good luck.
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It's possible to flash TWRP?
ronniler said:
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
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Yeah. You could very well brick your phone. The bootloader checks each partition.
And if it doesn't, I'm sure your company's MDM software will detect either an attempted root or the tripped Knox and remotely wipe your phone for violating policy.
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It's possible to flash TWRP?
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Not that I know of, but it seemed like the poster I responded to thought he could do it. I was just commenting on the consequences of tripped Knox.
Is it possible to downgrade from 6.0.1 (PJ1) to 5.1.1(Oj7 I think)? In my case I would like to go back to 5.1 to get access to the tethered root and I don't care if Knox trips on my device.
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Not that I know of, but it seemed like the poster I responded to thought he could do it. I was just commenting on the consequences of tripped Knox.
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That's what I thought. I'm currently still stuck on 5.0.1 with a locked boot loader and no custom ROM/kernel.
I'll just rely on my trusty KLWP to 'rice' my phone.
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hey. should I root my phone now or wait until there's a way to root without tripping knox? I'm just worried that if something ever happened to my phone while knox is tripped, I won't be able to get it replaced. Does it even matter if Knox is tripped when getting a phone replaced? I also have the jump insurance thing if that matters.
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
Karakoram2 said:
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
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yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
ayeitschris said:
yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
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People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
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People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
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Follow up: it is indeed when cf autoroot flashes a temporary recovery to gain root access that Knox is tripped.
5.0.1
Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
ilmar72 said:
Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
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If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
Hey where can I download your rom
Wrong section buddy
Well I just figured out tonight that LMT does work in this phone without root. At least the pie wheel does. I haven't tried any gestures yet.
So this makes me happy
Edit: I see this is nothing new. Lmt says root is needed for gestures and isas
theeze said:
If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
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Good point. But is it true that we won't be able to flash new radios?
Hi all just wanted to find out how to do this
Thanks
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I want to root just so I can recover files as most apps must have root.
Then I will unroot to get samsung pay and reset the knox counter.
abuch47 said:
Then I will unroot to get samsung pay and reset the knox counter.
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Tripping Knox is permanent. You cannot reset Knox, even by unrooting your phone. Only Samsung can do it, and even so, it's very rare.
CafeKampuchia said:
Tripping Knox is permanent. You cannot reset Knox, even by unrooting your phone. Only Samsung can do it, and even so, it's very rare.
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Thanks so I have done a bit more research and like you said permanent and then therefore Samsung Pay will never work. It will be a while yet before its available in AUS anyway so I'm not bothered.
So rooting is back on the cards to recover my camera album I accidentally deleted. It seems so daunting and over my head though. I don't want to brick my phone.
Do you have a easy and effective recommendation for backing up the note 5 before I head down the path of rooting?
Even then it's not very likely you can get the pictures back. Every time you touch your phone to do anything you are likely to overwrite those old memory locations - even by booting the phone.
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^Someone else said that and its already been a week. I may try anyway to test out the functionality of a rooted phone. What are the benefits of rooting for a non-power user?
Anyone have a recommended backup service?
Currently no one has really figured out what KNOX is. Some say it is a eFuse but there isn't any solid evidence. Even if it is a eFuse there must be some way to bypass it? We just need to knox for what it checks specifically.
Here are some facts:
Some people claim that they got their phone repaired by guarantee and it reset their KNOX counter from 1 to 0 without changing the motherboard.
SamFAIL can currently root your phone without tripping KNOX. The question is how?
KunkerLV said:
Currently no one has really figured out what KNOX is. Some say it is a eFuse but there isn't any solid evidence. Even if it is a eFuse there must be some way to bypass it? We just need to knox for what it checks specifically.
Here are some facts:
Some people claim that they got their phone repaired by guarantee and it reset their KNOX counter from 1 to 0 without changing the motherboard.
SamFAIL can currently root your phone without tripping KNOX. The question is how?
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We actually know a lot of those answers already...Samsung doesn't exactly keep it all a secret . As per Google:
https://support.samsungknox.com/hc/...-a-Knox-Warranty-Bit-and-how-is-it-triggered-
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We actually know a lot of those answers already...Samsung doesn't exactly keep it all a secret . As per Google:
https://support.samsungknox.com/hc/...-a-Knox-Warranty-Bit-and-how-is-it-triggered-
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Thanks didn't know such an article existed. So perhaps finding out how it detects if a non-knox kernel has been loaded and then bypass it that way.
Also do you have any idea how SamFAIL manages to keep knox 0x0?
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Thanks didn't know such an article existed. So perhaps finding out how it detects if a non-knox kernel has been loaded and then bypass it that way.
Also do you have any idea how SamFAIL manages to keep knox 0x0?
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Hmm not sure... I suspect it has something to do with having a locked bootloader on those Snapdragon models, meaning root must be achieved differently (in a way that doesn't trip knox), but I really am just speculating here. There may be more detail in the SamFail thread, or someone else might be able to better explain. I have an Exynos model.
I think that the very reason for implementing something like knox is, SAFETY for the user/owner, many see knox as a restraint, something that does not allow them to fully tinker with their devices, at the end, anybody can root the device, knox indeed has nothing to do with it, just flags the fact that the device has been tampered, and no longer as secure as it was before, so, I think knox is a GOOD thing, and that anybody has achieved to return it to 0x0 once tripped, is excellent news, but that is my opinion
Sorry to say but it's unlikely you'll find a way to bypass Knox without tripping it. People much smarter than us have been trying ever since it came out.
In roms you can disable Knox & it will show 0x0 but it will still show tripped in download mode. SamFail doesn't trip Knox cause it's using an engineering bootloader that was leaked from Samsung. Since that engineering bootloader is not custom binary, it won't trip Knox. So until something similar is leaked for Exynos, root without trippin Knox is not possible. Well it's not root exactly, it's flashing custom recovery (like TWRP) is what trips Knox since it's custom binaries & you need TWRP to root.
G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
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you cant completely block knox...
unlocking bl and flashing modified firmeare wil trip knox.. u cant reset knox flag either
Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
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thats always been around lolol.. but regardless ur post was more about not tripping knox which ur knox is in fact tripped so "disabling" knox doesnt change anything really.. also, that zip doesnt really disable knox.. it disables verification, defex, force encryption etc.
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
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vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
elliwigy said:
vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
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If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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it will likely cause most samsung apps not to work unless theres any tricks that still work also
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If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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I don't care about voiding warranty. What happens when I try and flash anything custom on the device Knox gets tripped and the phone refuses to boot. Thats what I am talking about trying to bypass.
I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
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I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
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I would be interested in, too.