hey. should I root my phone now or wait until there's a way to root without tripping knox? I'm just worried that if something ever happened to my phone while knox is tripped, I won't be able to get it replaced. Does it even matter if Knox is tripped when getting a phone replaced? I also have the jump insurance thing if that matters.
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
Karakoram2 said:
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
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yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
ayeitschris said:
yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
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People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
Karakoram2 said:
People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
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Follow up: it is indeed when cf autoroot flashes a temporary recovery to gain root access that Knox is tripped.
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Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
ilmar72 said:
Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
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If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
Hey where can I download your rom
Wrong section buddy
Well I just figured out tonight that LMT does work in this phone without root. At least the pie wheel does. I haven't tried any gestures yet.
So this makes me happy
Edit: I see this is nothing new. Lmt says root is needed for gestures and isas
theeze said:
If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
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Good point. But is it true that we won't be able to flash new radios?
Ok, so i googled a bit and do see that some people have had issues trying this, but most of the examples i was reading were on devices from carriers with locked bootloaders. Since the tmo version has an unloacked BL was wondering if anyone has tried this or not?
I was thinking of simply using flashify or twrp manager to install recovery from within my currently rooted (superuser) rom. Most people that have tried using locked bootloaders endup with a soft brick from what i have seen. Just not sure how much the unlocked bootloader would help us in this situation.
I know i can just use CF auto root but was trying to do it without tripping knox really. However, i have never had issues with any warranty through tmobile (rooted, tripped knox, whatever) and with the announcement of android pay, i am way less interested in samsung pay so tripped knox wouldnt be the end of the world... but still curious
EDIT: So apparently chainfire just released something called flashfire that appears it can do exactly what i am looking for. Anyone else looking for the same should check it out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
So, this will not trip knox? I'm currently stock waiting for the 5.1 update to see if it's worth it to keep stock or root my phone. I just want to root it so bad because I could hypothetically get double battery life with the tweaks I would do. I'm interested in Samsung Pay (sorta) but if Google Wallet/Android Pay will have the same functions, then IDC.
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So, this will not trip knox? I'm currently stock waiting for the 5.1 update to see if it's worth it to keep stock or root my phone. I just want to root it so bad because I could hypothetically get double battery life with the tweaks I would do. I'm interested in Samsung Pay (sorta) but if Google Wallet/Android Pay will have the same functions, then IDC.
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If you install recovery no matter what method it will trip. For Roms, Flashfire won't trip as long as you don't flash boot.img aka kernel. You need to remove it before flashing
Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
kuailan said:
Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
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hi,
in sort yes, if you root you will trip Knox counter Yes, even if you flash back to stock Rom, your Knox counter will show. that's it's tripped (0x 1.. etc.) So you won't be able to use Samsung Pay.
All my devices Note 2,Note 3 , Note 4
Note 8.0 tablet is rooted Not the Note5, so far not interested. It's smooth enough, Themes in Theme Store i am happy with.
Battery is very good overall.
I get my "root " enjoyment " with all my other devices....!
Just my take on situation of root re Note5.
Good luck
Yes. Even if u ruu back to total stock and unroot your knox wil still be tripped and samsung pay will not work. This happened on my s6. After unroot and odin back it still was tripped. For this reason i choose to not root my note 5
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Maybe there will be a way to reset the Knox counter in the future. I had used triangles away for my S4 in the past.
Hi I have a note 4 (marshmallow 6.0.1).
If I tripped knox by either rooting or flashing a custom rom, and then if I decided to revert back say i unrooted and re-flashed the stock rom.
Assuming everything is back normal except that
now you have "knox warrnety void 0*1"
Will I still be able to:
-Enable Knox active protection from Samsung's "smart manager" app.
-Use "Samsung my knox" app
-Use Samsung pay or android pay
-Do OTA updates
Or is having a "stock non-rooted rom" still not enough and you won't be able to do all of the above as long as you have already tripped knox?
(Also apparently you cannot enable it while "rooted" even if you have managed to root it without tripping Knox).
Thanks in advance :good:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
xaforib said:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
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Alright thanks for your helpful reply, honestly I don't really care about knox app and Samsung pay if they are the only things affected
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
ronniler said:
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
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You'll lose Samsung pay.
Not sure about exchange server, but my guess is that depends on security setting on the server.
Good luck.
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thanks dandrumheller
I did more investigation on how some companies (including mine) does this and after some documents from my own IT deparment i saw they were mentioning KNOX. So if KNOX is tripped, many of those in house apps to check email, store files, and conferencing probably will not work. So.... i can't trip the knox.....
I will have to wait for more developement to be done on ATT S6 6.0.1 in order to root it without tripping knox.... Probably it will NEVER happen since it has been more than a year since android 6 was released and there is no much out there :'(
I will keep my s4 that works like a charm!
dandrumheller said:
You'll lose Samsung pay.
Not sure about exchange server, but my guess is that depends on security setting on the server.
Good luck.
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It's possible to flash TWRP?
ronniler said:
Hi everybody I just got an ATT S6 G920A with android 6.0.1. After checking i see there is no way to root the phone. And i think the only way is to go ahead and push the TWRP. This will trip knox and the eFUSE will be blown
The question is: what are the consequences besides losing the warranty?
I need to use my company exchange server on that phone. Will tripped Knox prevent me to access the emails?
Thanks!
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Yeah. You could very well brick your phone. The bootloader checks each partition.
And if it doesn't, I'm sure your company's MDM software will detect either an attempted root or the tripped Knox and remotely wipe your phone for violating policy.
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It's possible to flash TWRP?
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Not that I know of, but it seemed like the poster I responded to thought he could do it. I was just commenting on the consequences of tripped Knox.
Is it possible to downgrade from 6.0.1 (PJ1) to 5.1.1(Oj7 I think)? In my case I would like to go back to 5.1 to get access to the tethered root and I don't care if Knox trips on my device.
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Not that I know of, but it seemed like the poster I responded to thought he could do it. I was just commenting on the consequences of tripped Knox.
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That's what I thought. I'm currently still stuck on 5.0.1 with a locked boot loader and no custom ROM/kernel.
I'll just rely on my trusty KLWP to 'rice' my phone.