Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
kuailan said:
Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
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hi,
in sort yes, if you root you will trip Knox counter Yes, even if you flash back to stock Rom, your Knox counter will show. that's it's tripped (0x 1.. etc.) So you won't be able to use Samsung Pay.
All my devices Note 2,Note 3 , Note 4
Note 8.0 tablet is rooted Not the Note5, so far not interested. It's smooth enough, Themes in Theme Store i am happy with.
Battery is very good overall.
I get my "root " enjoyment " with all my other devices....!
Just my take on situation of root re Note5.
Good luck
Yes. Even if u ruu back to total stock and unroot your knox wil still be tripped and samsung pay will not work. This happened on my s6. After unroot and odin back it still was tripped. For this reason i choose to not root my note 5
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Maybe there will be a way to reset the Knox counter in the future. I had used triangles away for my S4 in the past.
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hey. should I root my phone now or wait until there's a way to root without tripping knox? I'm just worried that if something ever happened to my phone while knox is tripped, I won't be able to get it replaced. Does it even matter if Knox is tripped when getting a phone replaced? I also have the jump insurance thing if that matters.
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
Karakoram2 said:
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
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yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
ayeitschris said:
yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
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People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
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People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
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Follow up: it is indeed when cf autoroot flashes a temporary recovery to gain root access that Knox is tripped.
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Hi all just wanted to find out how to do this
Thanks
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I want to root just so I can recover files as most apps must have root.
Then I will unroot to get samsung pay and reset the knox counter.
abuch47 said:
Then I will unroot to get samsung pay and reset the knox counter.
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Tripping Knox is permanent. You cannot reset Knox, even by unrooting your phone. Only Samsung can do it, and even so, it's very rare.
CafeKampuchia said:
Tripping Knox is permanent. You cannot reset Knox, even by unrooting your phone. Only Samsung can do it, and even so, it's very rare.
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Thanks so I have done a bit more research and like you said permanent and then therefore Samsung Pay will never work. It will be a while yet before its available in AUS anyway so I'm not bothered.
So rooting is back on the cards to recover my camera album I accidentally deleted. It seems so daunting and over my head though. I don't want to brick my phone.
Do you have a easy and effective recommendation for backing up the note 5 before I head down the path of rooting?
Even then it's not very likely you can get the pictures back. Every time you touch your phone to do anything you are likely to overwrite those old memory locations - even by booting the phone.
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^Someone else said that and its already been a week. I may try anyway to test out the functionality of a rooted phone. What are the benefits of rooting for a non-power user?
Anyone have a recommended backup service?
Hey guys,
I rooted my phone but after using the custom ROM I decided to unroot my phone by flashing a stock firmware through Odin. Everything works fine but Samsung health is showing "Because of a new security policy. Samsung Health can't be opened on a rooted device. (0x110040null5c1)"
Please help me to resolve this issue as I want to resell my device now.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (N920G)
chmosama said:
Hey guys,
I rooted my phone but after using the custom ROM I decided to unroot my phone by flashing a stock firmware through Odin. Everything works fine but Samsung health is showing "Because of a new security policy. Samsung Health can't be opened on a rooted device. (0x110040null5c1)"
Please help me to resolve this issue as I want to resell my device now.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (N920G)
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That is perfectly normal. As long as you rooted your device before, Samsung will somehow not let you use some of their services and trip Knox, even something that is as stupid as Samsung Health. The only way to fix that is by rooting your phone again, going into build.prop and setting ro.tima=1.
Crowbar Asdfghjkl said:
That is perfectly normal. As long as you rooted your device before, Samsung will somehow not let you use some of their services and trip Knox, even something that is as stupid as Samsung Health. The only way to fix that is by rooting your phone again, going into build.prop and setting ro.tima=1.
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after doing changes in build.prop, can I go back to stock without trip Knox error?
chmosama said:
after doing changes in build.prop, can I go back to stock without trip Knox error?
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I don't think so, as Odin might replace your build.prop during flashing. And your Knox is forever tripped.
Crowbar Asdfghjkl said:
I don't think so, as Odin might replace your build.prop during flashing. And your Knox is forever tripped.
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thank you for your kind help
chmosama said:
Hey guys,
I rooted my phone but after using the custom ROM I decided to unroot my phone by flashing a stock firmware through Odin. Everything works fine but Samsung health is showing "Because of a new security policy. Samsung Health can't be opened on a rooted device. (0x110040null5c1)"
Please help me to resolve this issue as I want to resell my device now.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (N920G)
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I have same problem with my Samsung galaxy Note 5 (N920C)
I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
You can but still you will not get Samsung pay
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Hi
I flashed my old S6 with German firmware as I couldn’t wait any longer for O2 U.K. and that was ok but I never used payments on my phone back then... I wonder if it’s the same!?
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Did you ever manage to get this to work? I'm in a similar situation.
silenceleaf said:
I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
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on the about section in settings, then under status , does the phone still show as "official" ? after you guys successfully flashed other region firmware ? this is a straightforward way to see if the phone is still "knoxed" or not, as i am wondering if the Samsung pay not working is due to georestriction or knox related? Because as i remember with my pre-previous phone the s7e that i rooted, tripped knox resulted in many Samsung apps locked with an original firmware as Samsung health, pass, pay secure folder etc but otherwise still usable.
Just remember that since the S7, once the phone is rooted or knox is triggered there is no way back even if you flash the original firmware and completely unroot it, knox is like an electric fuse and once it is broken there is no way to "unroot" or restore knox to official status except replace the motherboard (until s6 root and knox was software and fixable by flashing original firmware but since s7 knox counter is hardware)
Manage to change region by following this thread.
But I'm not using spay so can't confirm if it will make spay work or not. Knox won't be tripped so nothing to lose if you try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-how-to-change-s9-s9-csc-model-csc-t3870836
Hello, I have successfully applied extreme syndicate root to my note9, but when I wanted to register for Samsung Pay, I always got stuck at the login screen, also I'm not able to use secure folders. Does anyone have the same problems, or does anyone managed to get them working? Thanks.
joeywen0830 said:
Hello, I have successfully applied extreme syndicate root to my note9, but when I wanted to register for Samsung Pay, I always got stuck at the login screen, also I'm not able to use secure folders. Does anyone have the same problems, or does anyone managed to get them working? Thanks.
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With root you lose Samsung Pay and Secure Folder, there is no way you can get them back.. Even if you remove Root and Flash normal firmware Samsung Pay and Secure folder will never ever work!
When you rooted your Note 9, you have blown the Knox Efuse on the motherboard!
True for exynos models, once knox is tripped and they are gone. There is a work around for secure folder and for Samsung pay you'll need a Samsung gear watch.
For snapdragons (seems the OP has one since he is using Extreme Syndicate Root.) He should be okay flashing back the stock firmware. (Or things changed from note 8 to note 9 root?) The knox doesn't get tripped as it seems on exynos models.
Do a search on secure folder you should find a thread on it (maybe on the note 8 forums of xda but it should work for all phones.)
Samsung pay is gone when rooted hopefully the gear watch method still works. Don't have a gear watch then no go on rooted phones! But at least you can return to stock on snapdragons phones and have Spay working.