I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
You can but still you will not get Samsung pay
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Hi
I flashed my old S6 with German firmware as I couldn’t wait any longer for O2 U.K. and that was ok but I never used payments on my phone back then... I wonder if it’s the same!?
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Did you ever manage to get this to work? I'm in a similar situation.
silenceleaf said:
I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
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on the about section in settings, then under status , does the phone still show as "official" ? after you guys successfully flashed other region firmware ? this is a straightforward way to see if the phone is still "knoxed" or not, as i am wondering if the Samsung pay not working is due to georestriction or knox related? Because as i remember with my pre-previous phone the s7e that i rooted, tripped knox resulted in many Samsung apps locked with an original firmware as Samsung health, pass, pay secure folder etc but otherwise still usable.
Just remember that since the S7, once the phone is rooted or knox is triggered there is no way back even if you flash the original firmware and completely unroot it, knox is like an electric fuse and once it is broken there is no way to "unroot" or restore knox to official status except replace the motherboard (until s6 root and knox was software and fixable by flashing original firmware but since s7 knox counter is hardware)
Manage to change region by following this thread.
But I'm not using spay so can't confirm if it will make spay work or not. Knox won't be tripped so nothing to lose if you try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-how-to-change-s9-s9-csc-model-csc-t3870836
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Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
kuailan said:
Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
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hi,
in sort yes, if you root you will trip Knox counter Yes, even if you flash back to stock Rom, your Knox counter will show. that's it's tripped (0x 1.. etc.) So you won't be able to use Samsung Pay.
All my devices Note 2,Note 3 , Note 4
Note 8.0 tablet is rooted Not the Note5, so far not interested. It's smooth enough, Themes in Theme Store i am happy with.
Battery is very good overall.
I get my "root " enjoyment " with all my other devices....!
Just my take on situation of root re Note5.
Good luck
Yes. Even if u ruu back to total stock and unroot your knox wil still be tripped and samsung pay will not work. This happened on my s6. After unroot and odin back it still was tripped. For this reason i choose to not root my note 5
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Maybe there will be a way to reset the Knox counter in the future. I had used triangles away for my S4 in the past.
Been on Xtrestolite for months now and at first it was great, but the battery drains quickly now, can't answer phone calls and fast charging doesn't work (works on other devices).
Basically, I want to use this thread to go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/stock-firmware-official-stock-firmware-t3086387
The MM update for T-mobile is coming out soon so I am interested in the stock version of that (so my phone calls work).
My question is basically that I updated the modem and the bootloader to the Xrestolite ROM and the ROM thinks my phone is an S6 edge (just a regular S6).
If I use ODIN to flash stock on my device, does it also flash the stock modem and bootloader for my cell phone provider as well? (USA T-Mo.)
Are there any additional steps I need to do to go back to the stock modem/bootloader/anything else? Will I be able to update to MM OTA?
darklime said:
Been on Xtrestolite for months now and at first it was great, but the battery drains quickly now, can't answer phone calls and fast charging doesn't work (works on other devices).
Basically, I want to use this thread to go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/stock-firmware-official-stock-firmware-t3086387
The MM update for T-mobile is coming out soon so I am interested in the stock version of that (so my phone calls work).
My question is basically that I updated the modem and the bootloader to the Xrestolite ROM and the ROM thinks my phone is an S6 edge (just a regular S6).
If I use ODIN to flash stock on my device, does it also flash the stock modem and bootloader for my cell phone provider as well? (USA T-Mo.)
Are there any additional steps I need to do to go back to the stock modem/bootloader/anything else? Will I be able to update to MM OTA?
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You can restore original firmware using Samsung Kies or Smartswitch.
cwhiatt said:
You can restore original firmware using Samsung Kies or Smartswitch.
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I plan on using ODIN to flash the original firmware. Does the original firmware include the original bootloader and modem or do I have to do those separately?
darklime said:
I plan on using ODIN to flash the original firmware. Does the original firmware include the original bootloader and modem or do I have to do those separately?
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I have no idea. I always restored via Kies.
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I plan on using ODIN to flash the original firmware. Does the original firmware include the original bootloader and modem or do I have to do those separately?
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The full stock firmware package will have bootloader and modem. It will take you to basically like you just bought it except Knox will stay tripped.
Sym_Link said:
The full stock firmware package will have bootloader and modem. It will take you to basically like you just bought it except Knox will stay tripped.
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Thanks for the reply! Since knox is tripped, will I be able to do OTA updates or download apps like Samsung Pay or Android Pay? I heard there is a method like using the app called "Triangle Away" to remove the knox tripped counter.
darklime said:
Thanks for the reply! Since knox is tripped, will I be able to do OTA updates or download apps like Samsung Pay or Android Pay? I heard there is a method like using the app called "Triangle Away" to remove the knox tripped counter.
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You will be able to get OTA update with tripped knox if fully stock. Samsung Pay will not work if knox is tripped. Android Pay will work if not rooted( it will also work with systemless root and a couple changes to su file but then you are no longer stock and no OTA). There is currently no way of resetting knox short of replacing phone.
s89281b said:
You will be able to get OTA update with tripped knox if fully stock. Samsung Pay will not work if knox is tripped. Android Pay will work if not rooted( it will also work with systemless root and a couple changes to su file but then you are no longer stock and no OTA). There is currently no way of resetting knox short of replacing phone.
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I'm going to try to use triangle away as an attempt to reset knox. Should I flash the stock firmware first then try Triangle away or vice-versa?
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I'm going to try to use triangle away as an attempt to reset knox. Should I flash the stock firmware first then try Triangle away or vice-versa?
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S6 is not listed as a supported device for triangle away. I would not waste my money trying it. Just flash stock firmware. Only loss is Samsung pay.
s89281b said:
S6 is not listed as a supported device for triangle away. I would not waste my money trying it. Just flash stock firmware. Only loss is Samsung pay.
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That sucks. I really wanted to try it out. MM is coming out for my S6 in my country soon so I'm hoping battery and RAM management is better because recently on my ROM that was oh-so popular drains the hell out of my standby time and I cannot make/answer phone calls at times. At least I can try Android Pay. Thanks for answering my questions.
Hello,
I knew that if I root my Note5 (N920C) I will lose Knox and Samsung pay.
I've a question, If I revert to the original firmware shall I get back Samsung pay and knox?
generally, If I installed back the original firmware, is everything will back to normal or some issues would happen??
if there are issues after unrooting and installing the stock firmware, please list them all.
thank you for your support.
Samsung pay is gone. Knox will always be 0x1.you will have no deepsleep.
mdxii said:
Hello,
I knew that if I root my Note5 (N920C) I will lose Knox and Samsung pay.
I've a question, If I revert to the original firmware shall I get back Samsung pay and knox?
generally, If I installed back the original firmware, is everything will back to normal or some issues would happen??
if there are issues after unrooting and installing the stock firmware, please list them all.
thank you for your support.
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Hi ,
in short , if you flash your latest official stock Rom
You obviously loose root .!
Secondly ,if Knox is tripped it stays like that ., permanently
It's what they called a "e fuse " that was tripped.
(Nothing you do ,can will fix knox ,Only Samsung can and the most probably won't )
Also if you unroot chances are that your phone won't "deep sleep" ?
Samsung Pay ,i don't know.
Good luck
Thank you guys. the stock firmware is pretty good already. there is no good reason for rooting
Been out of the flashing game for a while (last device was an S4)
I'm wanting to start modding my Galaxy S8, but before I do I'm wanting to do a full firmware backup to restore to if things go wrong, or if I sell the device on.
Ideally I'd like to be able to restore to the point where the next user wouldn't recognise its been flashed other than the tripped knox flag (ie original recovery, modem, bootloader, the lot)
Also.. Samsung Pay. I've read about fake knox flag, does this enable Samsung Pay? Do I need to be rooted to do this? Can I flash from my backup (ie to original) and get Samsung Pay back?
Can anyone point me in the direction of a rock solid guide for this?
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Been out of the flashing game for a while (last device was an S4)
I'm wanting to start modding my Galaxy S8, but before I do I'm wanting to do a full firmware backup to restore to if things go wrong, or if I sell the device on.
Ideally I'd like to be able to restore to the point where the next user wouldn't recognise its been flashed other than the tripped knox flag (ie original recovery, modem, bootloader, the lot)
Also.. Samsung Pay. I've read about fake knox flag, does this enable Samsung Pay? Do I need to be rooted to do this? Can I flash from my backup (ie to original) and get Samsung Pay back?
Can anyone point me in the direction of a rock solid guide for this?
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If you have an s8, you are in the wrong thread.
You can download stock filmware files from Sammobile or Updato, which can then be flashed with Odin.
Samsung Pay will never, ever work after tripping Knox.
Flashing stock filmware is not enough, it will take a motherboard replacement due to the Efuse, google pay should work though with Magisk or relocking to bootloader.
I installed a custom rom few days back and unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I installed stock rom after some time, i flashed stock rom using odin but now many apps are showing me an error that my device is rooted, like samsung health, samsung pay etc. I can not use anything. I wanna revert it back to complete stock phone.
Please help me.
Thanks.
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srjsrajan said:
I installed a custom rom few days back and unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I installed stock rom after some time, i flashed stock rom using odin but now many apps are showing me an error that my device is rooted, like samsung health, samsung pay etc. I can not use anything. I wanna revert it back to complete stock phone.
Please help me.
Thanks.
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Hey mate. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, the fuse on your mobo gets flagged and the KNOX is tripped as 0x1. No way to revert that, as it is a hardware fuse. So, Samsung Pay, Secure folder will no longer work on your mobile, no matter what you do. With right rom and Magisk, you can get SHealth and GooglePay enabled.
jonny908 said:
Hey mate. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, the fuse on your mobo gets flagged and the KNOX is tripped as 0x1. No way to revert that, as it is a hardware fuse. So, Samsung Pay, Secure folder will no longer work on your mobile, no matter what you do. With right rom and Magisk, you can get SHealth and GooglePay enabled.
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Googlepay is working. Samsung is not. Btw thanks for replying bro.
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I agree with Jonny908. You will need to buy a new phone, or change the board (resulting in a mismatched IMEI) as there isn't any way to "un-blow" a fuse.