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Here it is! Just got my Nexus 7 but a really bad surprise waited me. As soon as I opened the box, I experienced the "screen separation" issue that a lot of people had. I tried to look on the web for a real permanent fix as Google's supply are not able to bet me an exchange/RMA that would not require to open the back of the device. I had tried to get the screws tighten without success, I also tried to put spacers in between the screws without success also.. :crying:
I read a lot about fixing this issue; one was explaining how to make the CPU/GPU running and generating heat to get the glue to hold the screen and case together. So I was sitting there watching my battery temp going up to 32-35C/90-95F as my meal was in the oven at 190C/375F. Then I got this great idea. I stopped the stress test, put the tablet in power off state and placed it face down on TOP of the hot spot of the oven; in between the two front elements. I put weigh on top of it and waited about 30-40 min. After that period, I started "Stability Test" available on the Play Store to get the battery temp that was around 47C/115F. I stopped the oven and let it sit for the night face down with weigh on top of it to cool it off. Next morning, surprise! The screen was finally glued. I had no screen seperation since then. It's now being my 5th day without any problem.
Conclusion : FIXED !! :laugh:
Let me know if that worked for you as well !
A heat gun would probably be easier and safer, glad it worked though.
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Thanks! Worked on mine too!
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Interesting idea, hadn't heard that one before. Of course, different stoves will have different hot spots from the oven, so YMMV. How much weight did you put on top of it? Also, do you happen to have a way of measuring how hot the spot gets?
I'd be interested to see if this is a truly permanent solution or if the adhesive starts to break down again after a few weeks or months.
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Interesting idea, hadn't heard that one before. Of course, different stoves will have different hot spots from the oven, so YMMV. How much weight did you put on top of it? Also, do you happen to have a way of measuring how hot the spot gets?
I'd be interested to see if this is a truly permanent solution or if the adhesive starts to break down again after a few weeks or months.
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I placed my hand over and touched it.. If the "hot spot" was couple of degres higher, I wouldn't be able to let my hand sit there.. I was at the limit.. For the weight, I used casino's pot full of change.. 2x 8 pounds..
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I placed my hand over and touched it.. If the "hot spot" was couple of degres higher, I wouldn't be able to let my hand sit there.. I was at the limit.. For the weight, I used casino's pot full of change.. 2x 8 pounds..
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Good to know. Different people seem to have different thresholds for heat (for instance, I remember as a kid I couldn't keep my hands under the same water my mom used to wash dishes), but the spot on my stove doesn't seem to run as hot as you described, so I'd be willing to try it if I run into this issue on my replacement.
All in all, though, I like this idea a lot. There's always a risk, but I'm sure the devices are stress tested with the CPU running at temps hotter than you could reproduce using this method (short of actually putting it inside the oven). As long as you can hold your hand on the spot without it getting too unbearable, I would think it's pretty safe to try.
mario24601 said:
Thanks! Worked on mine too!
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lmao.
Is there any way that we could just use our better glue to stick the screen tight regardless of the heat when playing games?
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lmao.
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Is there any way that we could just use our better glue to stick the screen tight regardless of the heat when playing games?
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I'm interested in this too. What about a very tiny amount of super glue on top of the old adhesive?
regarding heat-guns .... do you think a hairdryer would get hot enough/ too hot etc? I'm keen to try this but dont want to mess it up.
I'm on my 2nd N7 and have screen lift again
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regarding heat-guns .... do you think a hairdryer would get hot enough/ too hot etc? I'm keen to try this but dont want to mess it up.
I'm on my 2nd N7 and have screen lift again
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Have you tried the washer trick? That defiantly did the job for me. :good:
I dix tried but had no real results
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I dix tired the washer trick with no luck i guess..
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This is a confirmed solution
Its not the separation that annoys me... its the creaking sound...
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shocking discovery- missing screws in nexus 7
Long story short:
1st device from best buy : scar like dead pixels, exchanged for second
2nd device from best buy: loose screen/ seperation
Got 3rd device from staples hoping it is better, noticed screen noticeably yellower, minimal seperation problem.
At my last resort, opened up the 2nd and 3rd device, found 3 screws missing from the right side when faced down(or left when screen is up). While the 3rd device is missing one,
. I am so shocked this is happening....no wonder my screen is so loose.
I m a first timer with android device. Own an iphone . Gotta say jelly bean and even the nexus 7 itself is spectacular. But what is with Asus? Have google picked the wrong partner. Or is it is pure poor quality control. Unbelievable.
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I stopped the stress test, put the tablet in power off state and placed it face down on TOP of the hot spot of the oven; in between the two front elements.
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Okay, so just to make sure what you people do:
1. Heat up the oven
2. Find the hotspot
3. Switch oven off, wait until hot to touch (that'd be a bit over 60C)
4. Switch unit off
5. Put the unit on the hot spot with about 16 pounds (8 kilos) of pressure on top (really?)
6. Wait until it has cooled down naturally
Am I missing anything? How has the fix held for you so far after a month or more?
Thanks, :cyclops:
Did not work for me.
I heated the device to 80C with a hairdryer, then pressed it with clamps (force equal to about 9kg) for about 7 hours.
Separation came back about 1 hour after I released the clamps without turning the device on.
Too bad, as I have no way to exchange it.
I guess I'll just use the case.
5 minute epoxy (or any glue one's comfortable with) is the way to go. The problem is obvious once the bevel is removed - the glue on the left side on my device had cured without holding the glass. Hard to believe heating and pressing would work at all.
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I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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It will spontaneously burst into flames, even under water.
On a serious note, probably nothing. IP57 is a test made for 30 minutes but chances are it'll survive a lot more. The next level requires endless submersion at a higher depth and that is probably unreasonable to test/expect. I wouldn't try it out though.
You should see the waterproofing as an extra security. Dropped your phone in a puddle, spilled some water over it, need to take a call and it's raining? No problem. It's meant to survive those things. What it is not meant to do is to remain operational while submersed in water (they've said this on their website). It will, but it's not made to be used as an underwater camera or as a shower texting device (even though it can do those things).
Haha
Great to know, thanks.
I would though like to see a review site test it for longer, just to push the Xperia Z to its limits.
Id expect it it text in the shower like the Nokia 5210? Which I used to have years ago.
But I understand the rest. Thanks Ambroos
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(IP)(5)(7)
IP = Ingress Protection
5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact
7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device
The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is
8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.
Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer
and to get the IP67
6 = Dust tight
Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact
The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.
But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.
So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.
So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries
So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.
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I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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check this video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86rd1_submarine-model-pressure-hull-colla_tech#.URzR7Wdp7DU
Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
hebbe said:
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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Hot temperature expands air so it should be safe what you need to worry about is cold water Not that water will get inside but the air inside the device could become moisture if it's cold and wet so dunno for sure
from my experience as a diver, I can say that it is not so much about the duration in water but about the depth and the pressure. The deeper you go into water, the higher is the pressure. For every 10 meter, the pressure doubles. From 1 bar to 2 bar and so on. What this means, is, if you go beyond the depth for which the phone is specified and tested, the protective covers might be too weak to hold steady against the pressure of the water around it. Then they'll give in and bulge inside, thus water comes in -> phone's dead!
This may not mean that if you go 1,1m that the phone will die immediately. It could withstand 2 m, maybe even 3 or 5. But I wouldn't bet or try it out. It may survive these depths, but only for a very short time.
To conclude, I would assume that going to swim for 1 hour in up to 1 m should be fine. But going down to 3m for 5 minutes - not so good idea.
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Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
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That made me literally laugh out loud:good:
Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
MrL1 said:
Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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wait till it dries off, then the speaker would be ok.
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somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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That's normal. Wait till the water dries off, then the speaker will go back to normal.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Wait it dries off the speaker or muffled and yes but not fully dry now. Give 30 minute it at least or more so it get out water.
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You are all right . 30m later was OK :highfive:
Thanks m8's
THIS THREAD IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A WATER DAMAGED NEXUS 5, OR HAVE JUST DROPPED THEIR NEXUS 5 INTO WATER. READ NOTE BEFORE REPAIRING
NOTE: The water indicator (shown as the red square in the photos) is located just above the sim card tray. It is only a few millimeters away from the edge of the phone which makes it VERY SENSITIVE to water. It turns from white to pink/red if it has been exposed to water.
My phone dropped into the toilet and was submerged for only 0.5 -1 second. This was enough for the indicator to go off. If you do not want to open up the phone, check the sim card as mine had small pink/red residue on it after I took out the sim card.
The location of the indicator makes it very easy for the indicator to go off. I can easily see how rain, extreme humidity, or even a small pool of tap water could make it go off if the sim tray is not inserted properly, let alone if it was submerged.
Helpful Resources/Guides: Nexus 5 dropped in toilet, recovered: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1wf4gu/guess_who_dropped_their_nexus_5_in_the_toilet_a/
Nexus 5 water repair SUCCESS STORY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618121
How to open Nexus 5: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Opening Nexus 5 (more detailed) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542873
Repair guide (some steps are controversial, caution) : http://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/1npt9v/this_actually_works_if_you_drop_your_phone_in/
REPAIRS:
Read links/stories above for steps to recover Nexus 5, my method has not proved successful thus far. Please read the thread for other methods too.
The general consensus is to:
1. MOST IMPORTANT: Turn the off phone immediately. If your phone is off, don't attempt to turn it on or you will risk damaging the internals.
2. Use a cloth/paper towel to immediately soak up water around phone.
If you do not want to open up the phone for warranty purposes:
3. Place phone in an airtight container with activated silica gels, or with rice for few days.
Note: This is not the best method if the phone was submerged for a relatively long period or if you spilt coffee/soft drink on your phone. There is a high risk of corrosion with this as the water may be trapped inside for a long period of time causing internal parts to corrode. Other methods have proven more successful. Alternatively people have had success (in this thread, please read) by drying out their phones via traditional methods like using blowdryers etc. when the device was exposed to water for a SHORT period of time. Make sure you err on the side of caution when using heating methods as to not damage the internals, never use anything that would make the device too hot.
OR
If you don't mind opening up phone (fairly certain indicator has gone off and want to void warranty). If I could go back in time I would probably use this method:
3. Open up the phone by prying off the back (method in the link above), remove the battery and carefully assess the areas and components that have collected water. Remove the water and dry it out as much as possible. This may be enough if the phone was not fully submerged.
For more serious cases: For coke/coffee/saltwater or if the phone has just been sitting there a long time after water exposure:
- A lot of people have had success by washing the phone with deionised water first and then submerging it in pure ethanol (without battery). This serves to clean the phone of the contaminants and to prevent corrosion. (especially if you dunked in it coffee/soft drink). Theoretically the water/ethanol would not conduct electricity due to the lack of impurities in them.
-If you have left the phone untouched for a while without cleaning it, there may be some build up of corrosion. People suggest scrubbing the white corroded area off using small/light brush strokes of a soft bristled toothbrush either after the wash phase (deionised water) or just after the submerging phase (ethanol)
Many different methods suggested in links above. Make sure you read through the thread, there are various success stories here too.
My case:
As soon as I dropped it into the toilet, I turned it off straight away. I dried it off with a paper towel and stuck it in rice for a few days. Then I moved to a sealed container of silica crystals for about 5 days. Then I let it dry on table for another 2. Then it did not turn on, unresponsive. Did not charge or get recognised via USB. This was probably not an optimal repair method. The methods above may be more useful. But if you know the indicator has gone off, it would be best to open up the case straight away to drain the water out.
Then I opened up my Nexus 5 (after a week of deciding what to do). I could see small amount of corrosion around the sim tray area, usb insert area and others around the phone. Then I dipped the motherboard and into a bowl of isopropyl, enough to submerge it for 5-10 minutes. Then used gentle movements of a toothbrush to focus on corroded areas. I am now just letting it dry.
I will update this thread if the repairs are successful.
Update: Phone is still unresponsive, it may be that the battery is dead or one of the parts do not work at all. Any suggestions?
UPDATE 2: Ended up just buying a new Nexus 5 back in March, old one is just sitting here in the cupboard still unresponsive. I may try to buy a battery to see if it's a battery problem but for now I'll just leave it. Not sure if it would sell much for parts.
Please feel free to post other helpful resources or your own experiences on saving a water damaged nexus 5.
NOTE: I am from Australia. The cost to repair a water damaged Nexus 5 was a fixed cost of $290 AUD (16 or 32gb) if you send the phone to manufacturer (LG). Water damage is not covered under warranty but LG still accepts repairs out of warranty at a fixed price. The lady on the phone said that they would replace the motherboard. Opening up your device will void your warranty so please be aware of this before you try to repair it.
NOTE 2: If you live in the US, google has confirmed it does one time replacements no matter what. Read below: http://gizmodo.com/google-will-apparently-replace-your-nexus-5-no-matter-h-1630258357
You did it wrong. You must pull battery asap, and clean evening with alcohol
I feel this needs to be asked, had you conducted business before your phone went for a swim in the porcelain pool? ;D
GR0S said:
You did it wrong. You must pull battery asap, and clean evening with alcohol
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At the time I was still considering whether to send it back for repairs. Pulling the battery out requires taking the phone apart and voiding warranty. But looking back I probably should have opened it up straight away.
Phone is still unresponsive, is there any way to check which individual module or part of the phone doesn't work? I have a feeling some are working while others are not. Do electronic repairs shops have tools to test this?
Parts are easy to obtain: http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/android-models/lg-nexus-5.html but it is just a matter of knowing which part to get, that is assuming the main motherboard/CPU is still functioning.
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Phone is still unresponsive, is there any way to check which individual module or part of the phone doesn't work? I have a feeling some are working while others are not. Do electronic repairs shops have tools to test this?
Parts are easy to obtain: http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/android-models/lg-nexus-5.html but it is just a matter of knowing which part to get, that is assuming the main motherboard/CPU is still functioning.
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When you say phone is unresponsive do you mean that it won't come on at all?
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OuncE718 said:
When you say phone is unresponsive do you mean that it won't come on at all?
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Yeah it didn't turn on after I took it out from the silica gels. Also after I cleaned/submerged the phone parts in isopropyl and reassembled it doesn't turn on at all. I tried plugging into computer too but it didn't work either.
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Yeah it didn't turn on after I took it out from the silica gels. Also after I cleaned/submerged the phone parts in isopropyl and reassembled it doesn't turn on at all. I tried plugging into computer too but it didn't work either.
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The computer did not recognize the phone? Most times when a phone is off the computer would at least make a sound once plugged in. How was your battery life before the incident? Was the phone almost dead?
I would probably take the phone back apart, clean it one more time with the alcohol and a soft brush toothbrush, dry it with a blow dryer (on its coolest setting so you don't damage anything) and then put it back together.
Use this site as a guide and do a side by side comparison. Maybe you forgot to plug a cable back in. http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Good luck!
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The computer did not recognize the phone? Most times when a phone is off the computer would at least make a sound once plugged in. How was your battery life before the incident? Was the phone almost dead?
I would probably take the phone back apart, clean it one more time with the alcohol and a soft brush toothbrush, dry it with a blow dryer (on its coolest setting so you don't damage anything) and then put it back together.
Use this site as a guide and do a side by side comparison. Maybe you forgot to plug a cable back in. http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Good luck!
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No I tried it on a few computers, didn't manage to make it get a sound or anything. Battery life was normal before I dropped it. I can't remember what percentage it was on exactly when I dropped it, if I had to guess i think it was on 10-30%?
Yeah I'll give it another go with the cleaning. Should I submerge the screen in isopropyl too? I've only done the motherboard, bottom grill and cables so far. I left the battery out.
Also with the brushing I'm scared I'll break something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QHn3ItE7ME But am i meant to use as much force as this guy in the video? I was way more gentle than that
If its a soft tooth brush and only a soft tooth brush then I'd say go in for the kill. Lol. That's about how much force I used on my Galaxy Nexus when it had water damage and I recovered it with no issues at all! Use your discretion though. Use as much force as your comfortable with and make sure to thoroughly dry it. I'd also clean the battery connector but with a DRY brush. Maybe that's where the issue lay.
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Were there number 2 floaters when you dropped it? Did you soak it in rose water?
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yeh found a couple of mars bars on the screen when I took it out and mountain dew dripping from the sides.
haha nah it was clean at the time, just fell in from the towel rack
Phone probably short circuited when powered on
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Little bit of trolling, sorry,
Feel really sorry for the guy who lost his nexus 5 coz of water damage, but I couldn't help but giggle at times at the process he was making himself go through trying to save the nexus, all because of a 0.5 to 1 second of water. Here is the process that I went through with my phone.
Dropped my Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago in a bubble bath tub, then spent about 5 - 8 seconds just looking for it, because of the bubbles.
Then I found it, Wiped it off immediately on my chest, it was soaked, then I turned it on. then I got into the bath tub with it, then watched some YouTube, visited xda forums, after that decided to watch some porn, then my wife started banging at the door "what the hell are you watching!?" then I got out, Wiped phone with towel. Then ate some chicken with rice, with my phone next to it not inside it.
Anyway think the nexus 5 is a gorgeous phone, that I would of have definitely wanted it if I hadn't experienced relaxing bath tub times, that all started with the original xperia z.
I still envy people that I had seen using it, I think it's the most beautifully designed phone ever created. With Sony and Htc as close second.
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Phone probably short circuited when powered on
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Are the chances of a short circuit fairly high in circumstances like this? Any way to confirm if all components are dead? I'm assuming that would probably kill off the motherboard/cpu so cleaning it won't do much in that case. But might i'll give it another clean just in case
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Wiped it off immediately on my chest, it was soaked, then I turned it on. then I got into the bath tub with it, then watched some YouTube, visited xda forums, after that decided to watch some porn, then my wife started banging at the door "what the hell are you watching!?" then I got out, Wiped phone with towel. Then ate some chicken with rice, with my phone next to it not inside it.
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LOL cheers man, i'll be sure to quote that at my nexus's funeral to remind it of the life it could've lived
How about getting wet with Salt Water !
Hi all, great thread, glad I found it. Want to hear another "got wet" story?
My Nexus 5 (and an iphone5) was in an Outdoor Products "dry sack" on an ocean boat ride in Brazil. This one at outdoorproducts.com, their 3-pack-ultimate-dry-sack
Caution! It was properly sealed, but still let saltwater in through the seams from splashes. The phones basically sloshed around in a cup of water before I knew it. Defective or wrong material to trust. In any case, the phone didn't work after, dead. To repeat, neither phone was ever submerged or dunked.
So I didn't have any isopropyl alcohol, but here they have something similar, ethyl alcohol (for cleaning, usually 46% solution). I knew that the rest was "hydrated" so I searched for a more pure form; found a 98% bottle. It is very hard to find (banned from sale because flammable) but I found a source. So I submerged the phones in this ethyl alcohol for 5 min. then let them sit in rice inside one of this company's "dry boxes" (which I should've used instead, kick to rear).
After 2 days, my Nexus 5 turns on! And, charges... and connects to wifi and receives messages. but the phone screen is like a tie-dye t-shirt. "Touches" won't unlock the screen, so I can't access apps to retrieve data. And, the phone won't connect over USB to the Android file manager.
I'm hoping a technician/hacker back in MA can open the phone, take out the 16gb internal storage (Sandisk SDIN8DE4 16 GB NAND flash) and get my valuable photos/videos off !
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I was just googling... from ifixit's forum a moderator said that it was possible to read data from a NAND chip. He mentioned some sites, and from their I found a data firm, eprovided.com -- fyi this is no endorsement. I'll have to call them Monday to see if they can do chips from wet phones!
@placker have you tried hooking it to a different computer? Have you had the android file manager connected with this device before this incident, or did you install it just now? Have you tried booting to fastboot?
Just curious if it recognizes via fastboot
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@AndroidSlave
thanks for the reply -- the phone had previously worked fine with the Android File Manager (used on Mac). That was my big hope... but alas no.
I don't know how to do fastboot... I've started/hard-shutdown the thing many times. Believe it or not, the phone's alarm clock just went of at 8pm. No way to shut if off since I can't bypass [what I think is] the lock screen. I can see the wacked video screen changing in response button presses of volume or the 10-second power button press.
I'll google the technique...
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@AndroidSlave
thanks for the reply -- the phone had previously worked fine with the Android File Manager (used on Mac). That was my big hope... but alas no.
I don't know how to do fastboot... I've started/hard-shutdown the thing many times. Believe it or not, the phone's alarm clock just went of at 8pm. No way to shut if off since I can't bypass [what I think is] the lock screen. I can see the wacked video screen changing in response button presses of volume or the 10-second power button press.
I'll google the technique...
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Do you have a PC in your home? I am curious to see if anything gets recognized on a PC. My Mac (I am a Mac user) is finicky while my windows device works fine.
If u can get it recognized in fastboot you may be able to pull your data without issue...
If I were you I would first see if I could get it to be recognized on a windows PC
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Quite literally the first time I have dropped my Nexus 5...
About a 2.5-3 foot drop (my bed) straight onto a carpeted floor, not even a particularly thin carpet. The outcome says it all in the uploaded picture.
The phone itself works however the screen is completely useless. Due to my screen lock I am not able to access my SD card to recover any of my photos as I can't enter my pattern.
Good luck convincing any of us that it fell on carpet....
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I'm calling fake. The breakage pattern suggests a lot more went on. Typing from my nexus that survived a fall at 6ft on to concrete with only a ringke slim.
good day.
declan8888 said:
Quite literally the first time I have dropped my Nexus 5...
About a 2.5-3 foot drop (my bed) straight onto a carpeted floor, not even a particularly thin carpet. The outcome says it all in the uploaded picture.
The phone itself works however the screen is completely useless. Due to my screen lock I am not able to access my SD card to recover any of my photos as I can't enter my pattern.
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Fastboot erase data. Access to pictures granted.
I'm not bothered about convincing anyone who thinks I'm lying that it dropped onto carpet.
All the forensics experts here can feel free to be sceptical or just trust the fact I would gain nothing by lying on this thread and wouldn't bother.
Aerowinder said:
Fastboot erase data. Access to pictures granted.
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Can't do this as the screen doesn't show anything at all or respond to any touches.
You don't need the screen, just the power buttons and volume rocker to get into fastboot.
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Given the damage pattern its obvious it hit something with corners or protrusions.
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Lol, fell face flat onto my carpeted floor
it was struck with something about ⅔ the way up on the right side. or, it could have fallen very hard onto something that impacted the screen at that point.
Your carpet is sheetrock huh?
funky_snowman said:
You don't need the screen, just the power buttons and volume rocker to get into fastboot.
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Can you please tell me the button combination?
Power+volume down
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Is it painful to walk barefoot on your carpet?
Your family must wear steel toed boots in the house.
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Not as painful as listening to your attempt at humour
_jordan_ said:
Is it painful to walk barefoot on your carpet?
Your family must wear steel toed boots in the house.
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declan8888 said:
Not as painful as listening to your attempt at humour
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Lol, dang.
declan8888 said:
Not as painful as listening to your attempt at humour
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Or as painful as whatever really happened to your phone.
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Haha
Could somebody type the hardware keys instructions to format the phone step by step please?
It's got a screen lock so I can't format it via PC and have no idea where I'm navigating when I try to use fastboot/recovery mode!
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Or as painful as whatever really happened to your phone.
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Good one, your mother should be proud
Looks like the carpet was on truck tires to me.
I'm dropped mine numerous times and the wife sent hers flying across the room without a visible mark.
I just got my phone 3 months ago, this is my first ever high end smartphone that my parents bought for me (costs $800 here in PH). Now, we went for a swimming, my phone is inside my pocket, then my cousin suddenly pushed me to the pool. My phone's flap (USB/micro sd part) was already not working because the rubber that holds it got removed. Then my phone died, I panicked for minutes, didn't know what to do, since I'm not in our home and I don't have any drier or anything. I tried to turn on the screen, it went back but it blacked out again. I removed the memory card and my sim card, I tried to blow it then let dry in the towel. After an hour, I put it in a bowl of rice to let it moist for two days as suggested by my Aunt. After like 2 hours, I checked my phone, it was warm (37-40 C maybe), it was still on, and it produce a sound for like every 5 mins. I turned it off by clicking the power button and the up volume together, it vibrated for three times, I put it again in the bowl.
Just right now I checked my phone, I turned it on. The Sony logo just appeared by a second then black, after that the android logo came up. When it got to the lockscreen for like 2 secs the screen suddenly shut down!
OMG what am I gonna do now? Is my phone already dead? This is so expensive my parents are gonna kill me . I need some help right now. I cant go to any service center of Sony right now because it's Holy Week here in the Philippines. Do you have any suggestions for me? (Sorry for my very long story and bad english)
Your phone is dead.
You fried it lol just power it off for minimum 24 hours in rice or silica gel and Do Not use a drier lol
Why would you power it on after only 2 hours?
Yes, do that for more than 24 hrs and pray. A lot.
Had this once with a S3, but it was never completely under water, just totally soaked from heavy rain while hiking. It worked until I smashed the screen two times in a short row.
As a sidenote: even if the Z3c is promoted as waterproof, I'd never take it close to any situation where it could get totally wet. Even if hiking and inside a case and my pockets I always put it in a ziplock bag if rain is to be expected...
I'm happily playing ingress on my phone in the pouring rain. No case, no ridiculous zip lock bag.
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tudork said:
I'm happily playing ingress on my phone in the pouring rain. No case, no ridiculous zip lock bag.
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We got a bad ass here #thuglife
Howlbeck said:
even if the Z3c is promoted as waterproof, I'd never take it close to any situation where it could get totally wet. Even if hiking and inside a case and my pockets I always put it in a ziplock bag if rain is to be expected...
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day.
Return for guaranty.
It's supposed to be waterproof.
Mazzeru said:
Return for guaranty.
It's supposed to be waterproof.
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Obviously not with the flaps open...
luizlee86 said:
Obviously not with the flaps open...
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From what he said, they were closed, but defective. Which happens if you open them regularly to charge / connect to pc.
Defective flaps are also a motive to return. The phone is IP65/68. As such, it shouldn't be damaged in any way from continuous immersion before 3 meters.
Obviously if bootloader is still locked. (even so, I think a lawyer could force them to take the phone under warranty. The eula is quite vague about "modifying the phone")
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From what he said, they were closed, but defective. Which happens if you open them regularly to charge / connect to pc.
Defective flaps are also a motive to return. The phone is IP65/68. As such, it shouldn't be damaged in any way from continuous immersion before 3 meters.
Obviously if bootloader is still locked. (even so, I think a lawyer could force them to take the phone under warranty. The eula is quite vague about "modifying the phone")
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Yeah it is waterproof and a defective flap is a reason to get it fixed under warranty. But if you have a defective flap and you drop it in the water then Sony does not have to fix the whole phone.
Well, this is how it works here in Brazil.
Who pushed you in the water with a cell phone in your pocket? Why can't this be their fault?
Phone is likely bricked.
Howlbeck said:
Yes, do that for more than 24 hrs and pray. A lot.
Had this once with a S3, but it was never completely under water, just totally soaked from heavy rain while hiking. It worked until I smashed the screen two times in a short row.
As a sidenote: even if the Z3c is promoted as waterproof, I'd never take it close to any situation where it could get totally wet. Even if hiking and inside a case and my pockets I always put it in a ziplock bag if rain is to be expected...
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What? You put a waterproof phone in a ziplock bag?
I took my z3c swimming with me in my pocket in pools, the sea, and some waterfalls. Taking pictures and videos, the primary reason I bought it. No case, no ziplock bags and it's perfectly fine.
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GlebunV2 said:
That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day.
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jerverg said:
What? You put a waterproof phone in a ziplock bag?
I took my z3c swimming with me in my pocket in pools, the sea, and some waterfalls. Taking pictures and videos, the primary reason I bought it. No case, no ziplock bags and it's perfectly fine.
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Good for you
However, better safe than sorry - regardless if some find it ridiculous, I don't care.
Howlbeck said:
Good for you
However, better safe than sorry - regardless if some find it ridiculous, I don't care.
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You shouldn't have bought a waterproof phone then.
But my Z3C was only 8 days old. Water drops got inside USB Flaps, even though it was closed properly, no damage, no nothing. I think it was some thread though. Tested it second time, as was good.
I did buy it because of a lot of things, none of them being waterproof...
I care for my gadgets as I don't buy them on a plan/budget but at full price. It's easy to get it for 1 EUR/USD or whatever and then complain if it gets destroyed because of "supplier promised, supplier has to fix it at no cost" mentality. Anyway, each to his own.
Not to extend a useless discussion, but I also buy my phones at full price, no network discount. And one of the reason I bought this phone is its resistance to water. I haven't swam with it yet, I'll be scared before I do, but rain... Even my Motorola razr maxx could take rain drops. This phone can easily take rain.
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I don't think it's useless, it shows how we care about our phones.
I agree, there is rain and rain. You call it a few drops, I call it getting soaked in heavy rain while outdoors for hours with no chance of cover. Eventually you will get soaked to the skin, including your gadgets.
If everybody here takes it to the shower, pool, sea or whatever - so be it. If it survives - good. If it doesn't: do not complain. Simple.
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I don't think it's useless, it shows how we care about our phones.
I agree, there is rain and rain. You call it a few drops, I call it getting soaked in heavy rain while outdoors for hours with no chance of cover. Eventually you will get soaked to the skin, including your gadgets.
If everybody here takes it to the shower, pool, sea or whatever - so be it. If it survives - good. If it doesn't: do not complain. Simple.
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If it doesn't survive when all precautions are taken (Flaps properly closed and dipped solely in Fresh water), Sony is liable, if they deny warranty then it's time for a lawyer.
I'm only a kid, they took me for granted with my Z1 (Defective screen and Speaker) until I threatened them with Legal consequences.
Mazzeru said:
From what he said, they were closed, but defective. Which happens if you open them regularly to charge / connect to pc.
Defective flaps are also a motive to return. The phone is IP65/68. As such, it shouldn't be damaged in any way from continuous immersion before 3 meters.
Obviously if bootloader is still locked. (even so, I think a lawyer could force them to take the phone under warranty. The eula is quite vague about "modifying the phone")
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It's rated for 1.5 meters, not 3.