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Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
HwlHwl said:
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
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They're the exact same phone x1053, make sure the LTE bands are correct for the carriers you want to use (5 and 7 are x1058 only)
Steve-x said:
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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I can't verify whether it's SIM locked or not but I have one in my hand and the T-Mobile XT1053 does not have any branding on it. There is no logo on it. There are no T-Mo apps on it either.
It's unlocked. Using it with prepaid at&t.
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There has been lots of talk about the lack of a Dev Edition phone on VZW. I'm currently on ATT using the GSM Dev Edition phone and everything works well. Can anyone tell from the models listed for the Moto X 2014 whether there will be a Dev Edition version which will work well on ATT and support the LTE bands which ATT typically uses?
Yes the only one not receiving dev is Verizon as of now. Gsm is for sure! Don't know about Sprint
AndreaCristiano said:
Yes the only one not receiving dev is Verizon as of now. Gsm is for sure! Don't know about Sprint
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no need for sprint, sprint is friendly towards modding
There will be an unlocked version called "Pure Edition."
There seems to be some ambiguity on whether the Pure Edition is to be the same device as the Developer Edition or not, but in either case, VZW is not in the running for either for now.
tapped out via XT1053 DE
Anyone know which model # the Dev/pure edition is? The sprint model seems to cover the most bands.
lafester said:
Anyone know which model # the Dev/pure edition is? The sprint model seems to cover the most bands.
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I think there is a bit of confusion on that at the moment. Here is what I understand - no dev edition, but pure is effectively the dev edition as it may be unlocked. Nothing is being released for Sprint. Moto has not published what bands are in what phone, but they are marketing pure for T-mo, so I sure hope it has bands 4 and 12.
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I think there is a bit of confusion on that at the moment. Here is what I understand - no dev edition, but pure is effectively the dev edition as it may be unlocked. Nothing is being released for Sprint. Moto has not published what bands are in what phone, but they are marketing pure for T-mo, so I sure hope it has bands 4 and 12.
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I have been searching and searching daily to answer the question of what bands are supported by the Pure Edition and what the model number even is. It's either XT1092 or XT1095 and the reason I'm so concerned is that one does not have Band 12 - they're otherwise identical supposedly.
Anyway, just wanted to point out that I saw links to XT1095 on "America Movil" and a Motorola chat rep confirmed that the XT1095 is the Latin America version.
On the other hand, if the XT1092 bands are to be believed on Phone Arena and the likes, then the Pure Edition should support T-Mobile, AT&T and Sprint as it appears to have CDMA/GMS/all LTE bands. I don't want to spread misinformation, so I'll just sit here and pray instead
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Pure edition supports lte cat. 3? My only concern here
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
marcviado said:
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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A new (if you can find one to order) Republic Wireless Moto X (XT1049) will likely come with Android 4.4.2 (that's the most recent Android version for Republic Wireless). On 4.4.2, you can unlock the bootloader using jcase's Sunshine exploit app and get root by flashing a custom recovery. You can also GSM SIM-unlock if you want (by flashing to a Sprint ROM and back). You will not find much of anything in the way of custom developed ROMs for the RW Moto X. If you flash a custom rom such as CyanogenMod, at the very least you will no longer have the hybrid WIFI calling features that Republic Wireless adds in themselves. I'm not sure whether it would even activate or work at all through Republic's service. Any custom ROM for the Republic Wireless Moto X will likely need to be a tweaked version of the stock base ROM.
EDIT: It looks like RW is still selling the Moto X (2013). I wonder when they will run out.
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
marcviado said:
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
x000x said:
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
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No, and no.
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brainwash1 said:
No, and no.
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so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
x000x said:
so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
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Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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brainwash1 said:
Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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I bought it off ebay, from the description I thought I was buying a sprint version, I returned it but it got sent back to me due to the seller having an invalid shipping address. I'm not really interested in republic, and wondering what else it could be used for. Looks like the options are slim. Maybe I'll just re-sell it.
samwathegreat said:
If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
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Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
My guess is probably not, as I'm thinking that RW is pretty specific with their MEID #s. But, that being said, I don't really know.
As far as options on Republic, you pretty much have the best option that you have for all Moto X:
You really don't necessarily want an aftermarket rom, as it breaks things like Active Notifications and the like. On RW, you'd totally break your service.
That's why God invented Xposed. There sure are a ton of modifications that can be done through Xposed...in short...it rules.
permanentpink said:
Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Thanks @samwathegreat and @SubliminalME
I don't install custom roms anymore, Xposed has given me everything I wanted. From a rooting/using Xposed etc standpoint, what would you guys recommend? RW Moto X on RW, Sprint/RW Moto X on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk (after unlocking etc) or Nexus 5 on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk? I live in Chicago and it appears this area has been "refarmed" by T-Mobile, but currently on my Galaxy Nexus I'm not getting very good reception.
If I order from the Motorola website, this will be the pure edition phone, correct?
Will the pure edition work on Verizon LTE or is it for GSM networks only?
I'm an AT&T user but trying to assist a family member in choosing a phone - he is on Verizon and will be coming from a fruit phone 4S.
I would like for him to get a phone that is developer friendly and the Moto X has got my attention.
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
There is rumored to be an upcoming Firmware update that will KIND OF make the Pure edition work on Verizon.
Really no Verizon phone will be "developer friendly" as Verizon themselves are not Developer Friendly.
Thank you. I think the rumor thing was adding to my confusion. Maybe a bit off topic here but does Verizon have ANY current production top of the line phones that have an unlockable bootloader?
Definitely not from Verizon. You may have to search for a few phone that Verizon carries but last I checked the nexus line did. But that was like 2 years ago almost
knitler said:
There is rumored to be an upcoming Firmware update that will KIND OF make the Pure edition work on Verizon.
Really no Verizon phone will be "developer friendly" as Verizon themselves are not Developer Friendly.
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Lol no it will not work on Verizon... It will not work on Verizon with future firmware update. The pure edition doesn't have CDMA radios so calls will not work. The firmware update is to unlock additional lte bands so that it will help for roaming even you go out of USA.
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Not all of Verizon's bands are CDMA
kevinga said:
If I order from the Motorola website, this will be the pure edition phone, correct?
Will the pure edition work on Verizon LTE or is it for GSM networks only?
I'm an AT&T user but trying to assist a family member in choosing a phone - he is on Verizon and will be coming from a fruit phone 4S.
I would like for him to get a phone that is developer friendly and the Moto X has got my attention.
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
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While ordering on the MotoMaker you can choose pure edition or the useless ugly branded crap carrier versions. If you select pure edition it will work on gsm networks, in the USA it will work on att and T-Mobile.
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knitler said:
Not all of Verizon's bands are CDMA
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All calls go over CDMA. As he said, calls won't work.
With VoLTE, calls can go over LTE (which you may be able to get, idk what bands Vzw uses), but VoLTE needs software from vzw which you certainly wouldn't have
kirdroid said:
While ordering on the MotoMaker you can choose pure edition or the useless ugly branded crap carrier versions. If you select pure edition it will work on gsm networks, in the USA it will work on att and T-Mobile.
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I'm hoping that us Europeans end up with a Euro Pure Edition, cos right now the Pure Edition seems to be a US device. Guess I will see when mine turns up.
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There is rumored to be an upcoming Firmware update that will KIND OF make the Pure edition work on Verizon.
Really no Verizon phone will be "developer friendly" as Verizon themselves are not Developer Friendly.
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knitler said:
Not all of Verizon's bands are CDMA
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Where are you getting this rumor from? The only bands that will be enabled from this update will be bands 2, 3, and 7. Verizon uses Bands 4 and 13 for LTE, only one of which is on the Pure edition. Calls are still sent over CDMA and that's not planning to be retired until 2016. So, no it will not work on Verizon, ever.
what is the difference between the xt1050 and the xt 1060, i see on ebay theres a listing for motherboards rot $29 model # xt1050 listed as a generic cdma model, phonearena has no listing on the xt1050, did google search and found link that suggest its not compatible in the us. it it possible to install the xt1050 board in device for sell in the us as a cdma device?
Don't bet on it!
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I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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x000x said:
I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
stevedat said:
So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
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Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
snejkatamie007 said:
Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
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I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big dÃappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
stevedat said:
I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big dÃappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
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I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
snejkatamie007 said:
I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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I got this vrz moto x 2013 by exchanging with my sony phone. I am an asian buddy. In the back of my phone there is a logo with Verizon carrier.
I am running 4.4.4 and being happy with it. Moto's features are cool stuffs.
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What country are you living in? thanks
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snejkatamie007 said:
I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
ps/ The dealer does infact says the Verizon one comes sim unlocked, but still the lack of customizability renders it rather unattractive in my mind!
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Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Yes , that's in line with what I was thinking of. I will go with the at&t and hope for the best!
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Vietnam
snejkatamie007 said:
What country are you living in? thanks
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Vietnam
So can i use xt1050 on gsm carriers in US and outside US? thanks