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CDMA Hero on Boost?

is this possible? Please dont say no jus because YOU dont know.
ive been to flash2boostmobile.com but im not sure if its a scam or not.
im getting ready to FINALLY buy a hero but im not sure if itll switch over.
Someone please help me.
Many,many thanks well in advance

I'm not for sure, but it doesn't look real to me. Usally stuff like that has more pages and stuff like that.

I don't believe this will work as Sprint uses CDMA and Boost (although owned by Sprint) uses iDEN. iDEN is basically a SIM version of CDMA but doesn't work with either. Boost does offer something that lets you use certain Boost branded phones on Sprint's network however.

For the select handsets operating on Sprint's CDMA network, I would assume yes to 3G. The iDEN network, from what I'm reading, is a different network so I have no idea on that one.

It can be done, just not likely a legal way to do so.
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What Sprint phones will work on Boost, and how do I get ____ on Boost (part 2)
1.5 Is it possible to use other phones on Boost CDMA?

I've been thinking about the Boost thing to I know the only thing that would stop you is if sprint has some sort of subsidy code on these phones. I've had two unlocked gsm phones and the only from tmobile to at&t. I had to get the subsidy from tmo to get it to work on at&t then had to hack the phone to get the mms and internet to work. There is a guy on here that has successfully flashed his phone to metropcs so it is definitly possible. Only problem is that you would have to constantly fix your apn (depending on how often you change roms)

First, as others have stated, the comment about boost being iDen is only is not correct. Boost has iDen and CDMA. When I looked into it the only phones you couldn't put on Boost appeared to be the Android phones. I know there are other ways to do it but not sure if it is ok here to talk about that.
I am considering trying to get my Hero on Virgin Mobile though, the new Beyond Talk unlimited Data/txt/messaging plans for $25+ is just crazy.

bam_bam_imma said:
is this possible? Please dont say no jus because YOU dont know.
ive been to flash2boostmobile.com but im not sure if its a scam or not.
im getting ready to FINALLY buy a hero but im not sure if itll switch over.
Someone please help me.
Many,many thanks well in advance
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I wouldn't trust them as their information is incorrect. Boost Mobile is not 4G, nor is any of their phones capable of running on 4G.
Plus their price is just ridiculous.
We do the same thing and we are the originators of it. we started with BoostBerry3G.com, then SilverSpoonCells.com and now we are doing it for 30 different websites and 49 stores across US.
If you wanted to get this done check out the original Sprint to Boost Mobile Flashers at SilverSpoonCells.com.
All Sprint Models with a Clean ESN/MEID are compatible except: HTC Hero, Samsung Moment, palm pre, palm pixi, and BlackBerry 8530 Curve 2
In very rare occurences some Samsung Instincts have showed up as Incompatible.

1st-- THERE IS NO FLASH FOR BOOST
2nd-- Boost has BOTH CDMA AND IDEN(nextel sim only)
3rd--the only Droid phone u can get on Boost is the one they sell
4th-- only SPRINT phones can be activated on Boost(search here and Howard Forums for a list)

tlhop911 said:
1st-- THERE IS NO FLASH FOR BOOST
2nd-- Boost has BOTH CDMA AND IDEN(nextel sim only)
3rd--the only Droid phone u can get on Boost is the one they sell
4th-- only SPRINT phones can be activated on Boost(search here and Howard Forums for a list)
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1st -- you wouldn't be flashing anything to switch networks, thats a given (its not a ROM)
2nd-- you bringing up boost having cdma and iden a year later is pointless... this is definitely known already
3rd-- the only android phone you could "buy" from boost is the one they sell
4th-- heroC is a SPRINT phone, thus why this is in this particular forum, so did u not just contridict your 3rd point u made???

bk718 said:
1st -- you wouldn't be flashing anything to switch networks, thats a given (its not a ROM)
2nd-- you bringing up boost having cdma and iden a year later is pointless... this is definitely known already
3rd-- the only android phone you could "buy" from boost is the one they sell
4th-- heroC is a SPRINT phone, thus why this is in this particular forum, so did u not just contridict your 3rd point u made???
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I'm Also Curious about this topic... if Anyone can Confirm this one way or another Please PM me!
Thanx in Advance!

There is a slight difference between Carrier and GPlay Nexus 5

First lets start by saying THERE are NO HARDWARE DIFFERENCE'S Just the matter of your carrier accepting the device
*Disclaimer : This information may change in the future and I'm not aware of any other CDMA carrier that does this in the UNITED States besides Sprint (If you do post and let us know). Most of the world is on GSM anyway right so this doesn't even matter to you
The Google Play Version allows you to go to Sprint and T-mobile
The T-Mobile Version or Carrier version will only work on other GSM Carriers while the Google play version allows you to go CDMA and GSM
Both of the Carrier and Google versions sold have the same internals and same everything else its just the matter of your carrier accepting it
If you're going to be using it for GSM only the carrier version is fine, however if you would like to use Sprint one day you would need the Google Play one or buy one from Sprint Themselves
Overall From Carrier and or Google Play Hardware/Software is the same its just the matter of your carrier accepting it :good:
Another Difference is that Carrier purchased Nexus 5 GOOGLE WILL NOT RMA only LG can with their Limited 1 year warranty
THE RMA Process is Only available from Google If the device was purchased from them
So for best warranty service try to purchase from Google Play
So Mark...? How do I know this is true and not one of your BUll***** threads again?
Simple Try going to ting and or any BYOD Sprint MVNO or Sprint themselves in order for them to activate it the ESN/IEMI must be in their system the google play ordered device will show however the Carrier purchased one Example T-Mobile wont show
It may sound stupid as all Nexus 5's should be unlocked and can be used anywhere. As it should be but it isn't
This is an Error on Sprint's End. This was similar to the iPhone 4s being GSM unlocked however carriers such as Sprint/Verizon Locked it

I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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rootSU said:
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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Yep, you can go Sprint to T-Mobile but you cant go to T-Mobile to Sprint

markdapimp said:
Yep, you can go Sprint to T-Mobile but you cant go to T-Mobile to Sprint
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Do they refuse to add the ESN when you call them up?

rootSU said:
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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I am confused as well.

Sprint seems pretty horrific with dealing in ESN's anyways. 6 support calls and a friend of mine could still not activate my old e4gt. They knew it wasn't blacklisted for stolen or funds due. They knew the exact date the phone was last activated but it wasn't until I told him to tell them the old number that they are like oh that hasn't been released from the line (which no longer exists). You would think you would get a clear and concise message trying to activate a device that is attached to another account not cryptic errors people are asking if they have ever seen before. One support staff actually asked him "are you sure its a sprint phone".
We already know AT&T doesn't exactly deal as well with the N5 as we would like to.

RainMotorsports said:
We already know AT&T doesn't exactly deal as well with the N5 as we would like to.
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Really?
I bought the play store edition, popped in my sim card and that was it...
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Pirateghost said:
Really?
I bought the play store edition, popped in my sim card and that was it...
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Thats the best way to do it too. You already had service right? Possibly previously owned an LTE device? But its been encountered many a time they won't provision the account with LTE if the device ESN isn't in the system. But if you have an AT&T device available to activate on its no big deal. Already have service even better. Not an issue for say ST Byod or something.

mistahseller said:
I am confused as well.
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Here is what I understand
Google version=bought from google play
T-Mobile version=bought from tmobile
Hardware wise, they are exactly the same.
However, sprint only has the ESN of the Google version (and their sprint version)
When op tries to activate the tmobile version on sprint, sprint (or ting) was unable to verify the ESN and refused.
Gsm providers are fine because you just pop the Sim in and it'll work (baring other stuff like imei blocking or att not allowing your Sim card to access LTE but allow 3g)

paperWastage said:
Here is what I understand
Google version=bought from google play
T-Mobile version=bought from tmobile
Hardware wise, they are exactly the same.
However, sprint only has the ESN of the Google version (and their sprint version)
When op tries to activate the tmobile version on sprint, sprint (or ting) was unable to verify the ESN and refused.
Gsm providers are fine because you just pop the Sim in and it'll work (baring other stuff like imei blocking or att not allowing your Sim card to access LTE but allow 3g)
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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?

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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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But what if Sprint's policy is only to allow a whitelisted phone on the network?
Otherwise, you could call them up with a Verizon ESN and get to use a Verizon phone on sprint?
//why I'll never touch CDMA even with a 20 foot pole

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But what if Sprint's policy is only to allow a whitelisted phone on the network?
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this is both vzw's and sprint's policy.

Zepius said:
this is both vzw's and sprint's policy.
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True, but sprint could be doing things differently with the nexus 5
I don't know, but from ops perspective, looks like this is happening.
Imeis (and probably ESN) have a specific structure. (Go Wikipedia imei. On mobile, can't link easily)
If google/sprint version have the same starting digits and are white listed, and T-Mobile has different digits, then yeah

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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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I have seen posts that suggest this can be done
Most recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672066
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RainMotorsports said:
Thats the best way to do it too. You already had service right? Possibly previously owned an LTE device? But its been encountered many a time they won't provision the account with LTE if the device ESN isn't in the system. But if you have an AT&T device available to activate on its no big deal. Already have service even better. Not an issue for say ST Byod or something.
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AT&T don't care what device you use. Call them and tell them you want to pay them money for LTE, give them the imei (they don't use esn) and they provision a sim card.
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All you have to do is call sprint and give them the esn and it will work on sprint.
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I ordered my N5 on 1st available day. Then went to local ATT store and set up my ATT Go account and SIM, without the phone, for free. When phone arrived, I just bought ATT Go pin from callingmart, pop in SIM and voilà, LTE.
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Pirateghost said:
AT&T don't care what device you use. Call them and tell them you want to pay them money for LTE, give them the imei (they don't use esn) and they provision a sim card.
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Company policies often have little to do with the current behaviour of high level software that abstracts the process from low level tech support. I don't think it was even an issue until very recently as most international unlocked devices were not compatible with their LTE nor do travelers take contracts. There are a couple of tricks experienced support know and even better if you get a higher level support tech answering your call rather than having to elevate. Sometimes its an easy day some days its hard.
There are words to use with support that can help facilitate a solution but money is not one of them. Its their job to help you no matter a current customer or new and no matter how much or little your spending. Talking about money only produces eye rolling and it falls under the same care level as calling your credit card company and telling the random poor soul your cutting up the card. They don't care, though a bean counter somewhere will tell anyone who asks they do or they should. In reality a rep who only gets motivated by threats or talking about money is a prime candidate for retraining or dismissal.
If they haven't already adjusted for this they need to. With the amount of cross carrier compatible unlocked lte devices on the market they will have more customers on them than ever before. Any extra calls to get LTE provisioned is wasted money for them.
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RainMotorsports said:
Company policies often have little to do with the current behaviour of high level software that abstracts the process from low level tech support. I don't think it was even an issue until very recently as most international unlocked devices were not compatible with their LTE nor do travelers take contracts. There are a couple of tricks experienced support know and even better if you get a higher level support tech answering your call rather than having to elevate. Sometimes its an easy day some days its hard.
There are words to use with support that can help facilitate a solution but money is not one of them. Its their job to help you no matter a current customer or new and no matter how much or little your spending. Talking about money only produces eye rolling and it falls under the same care level as calling your credit card company and telling the random poor soul your cutting up the card. They don't care, though a bean counter somewhere will tell anyone who asks they do or they should. In reality a rep who only gets motivated by threats or talking about money is a prime candidate for retraining or dismissal.
If they haven't already adjusted for this they need to. With the amount of cross carrier compatible unlocked lte devices on the market they will have more customers on them than ever before. Any extra calls to get LTE provisioned is wasted money for them.
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Telling them you wanted to pay them money is a figure of speech, like 'hello, I would like phone service' I didn't mean literally call them and say "I want to pay you money for LTE"
Dude, chill out a little. I have been dealing with cell phone companies as an enterprise account for many years.
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Pirateghost said:
Telling them you wanted to pay them money is a figure of speech, like 'hello, I would like phone service' I didn't mean literally call them and say "I want to pay you money for LTE"
Dude, chill out a little. I have been dealing with cell phone companies as an enterprise account for many years.
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Right but you might be surprised how many customers are serious and speak like that as if the service rep is part of this corporate entity. I guess you can tell a battered customer service veteran. I once had a guy tell me he was going to file a complaint on me for basically enforcing a policy that had been changed...
I'm a bit bummed actually. As much as I loved getting off sprint I was excited about the device support. So I'd hate to have any issues going back. However if I ever went AT&T it would probably be an mvno.
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Oh AT&T... how I loathe you!

Every GALAXY launch we go through the same BS. No 32GB option available, and this time no GOLD or BLUE color options available. Why? Why? Why? Is it really that difficult to include all the colors with 32GB? Now those of us who want to get the phone on launch are once again screwed just like we were last year and the year before on 32gb of storage. Of course I take all this back if the unlocked variant offered AT&T LTE support; which it doesn't by the way. Why am I not surprised? The 16gb S5 will have about 10GB of user storage.
I am so fed up with this type of BS. AT&T is, unfortunately, the only carrier that works well in my area. T-Mobile is spotty with lots of EDGE. If only their service was on lower spectrum, I'd be all over them.
Anyone else feeling just as frustrated with this mess we endure every year.

I totally agree, but the ATT S4 did come with a 32Gb. I am using it right now. I wish Sammy would up them all to 32Gb and an option for 64Gb. 16Gb is too small with how large touchwiz is with each revision. No way I will go back to only 16Gb on board.
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16GB is never an issue with me, regardless of the device. It's more than enough for my needs, considering I have maybe 2-4 very small games on my devices at any given time. What does piss me off is the lack of all the colors. I wanted the blue model, but of course, that's not possible...for whatever idiotic reason. I just said screw it and preordered the black. I guess I'll just buy a different back cover down the road.

karmuh said:
16GB is never an issue with me, regardless of the device. It's more than enough for my needs, considering I have maybe 2-4 very small games on my devices at any given time. What does piss me off is the lack of all the colors. I wanted the blue model, but of course, that's not possible...for whatever idiotic reason. I just said screw it and preordered the black. I guess I'll just buy a different back cover down the road.
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16GB may not be an issue for everyone, but why can't they just give the customer the choice at pre-launch? I have no problem paying more for storage. Why does Apple sell every color and size up front from day 1? That's what I don't get. Since they are dying so much to be like Apple, then why can't they at least do that?

MattMJB0188 said:
16GB may not be an issue for everyone, but why can't they just give the customer the choice at pre-launch? I have no problem paying more for storage. Why does Apple sell every color and size up front from day 1? That's what I don't get. Since they are dying so much to be like Apple, then why can't they at least do that?
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Agreed -- it really doesn't make any sense at all. All model options should be available from day 1, no exceptions. That's one thing Apple does an excellent job at. They announce their devices and the same day you can start preordering any color/storage model, assuming the stock is available, of course. It pissed me off even more, because we had to wait this long after the S5 announcement to just preorder it...and then we don't have all the options available? Very annoying.

karmuh said:
Agreed -- it really doesn't make any sense at all. All model options should be available from day 1, no exceptions. That's one thing Apple does an excellent job at. They announce their devices and the same day you can start preordering any color/storage model, assuming the stock is available, of course. It pissed me off even more, because we had to wait this long after the S5 announcement to just preorder it...and then we don't have all the options available? Very annoying.
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+1, Samsung never have full availability of their models. Either they announce a color but don't have it or announce a 64 GB version and don't have it.
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barondebxl said:
+1, Samsung never have full availability of their models. Either they announce a color but don't have it or announce a 64 GB version and don't have it.
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Yeah I know. Its ridiculous. I don't know why I had such high hopes for them to turn around and launch the S5 differently than before.

MattMJB0188 said:
I am so fed up with this type of BS. AT&T is, unfortunately, the only carrier that works well in my area. T-Mobile is spotty with lots of EDGE. If only their service was on lower spectrum, I'd be all over them.
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I know it doesnt help right now, but i recall reading on Engadget recently that T-Mobile is claiming that all of their 2g areas will be upgraded to 4g by 2015 or early in 2015. That should open up more options for you and countless others.

cloudraker said:
I know it doesnt help right now, but i recall reading on Engadget recently that T-Mobile is claiming that all of their 2g areas will be upgraded to 4g by 2015 or early in 2015. That should open up more options for you and countless others.
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That will help, but a major problem T-Mobile has it that their frequencies don't reach as far as AT&T's and therefore you get EDGE. T-Mobile has all their towers upgraded in my area to HSPA+ and some with LTE, but since those signals don't travel as far, it always turns into EDGE. They need to shut EDGE down entirely and use only H+.

New TouchWiz is just over 8 gigs of space, I've been told the 16gb version will have about 7 gigs of usable storage. I'm waiting for the 32gb version to come to AT&BS I guess a little later this year.
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This is why I am thinking of passing on s5 and going to HTC one m8. I checked out the phone at AT&T and very impressed with it plus it comes in 32gb at AT&T as default. Tired of Samsung Bs. They will release a 32gb version on AT&T 6 months down the road or never.
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sabre31 said:
This is why I am thinking of passing on s5 and going to HTC one m8. I checked out the phone at AT&T and very impressed with it plus it comes in 32gb at AT&T as default. Tired of Samsung Bs. They will release a 32gb version on AT&T 6 months down the road or never.
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Yea. With the S4 I think they announced the 32GB version about 2 weeks after the 16GB went on sale; ultimately screwing anyone who wanted one because their return policy was up.
I actually ordered the 16GB because I never have come close to filling the internal storage I was just pissed its not an option. I just really wanted the blue. **** like that pisses me off. I am sure if AT&T gets the 32GB it will only come in black. I wanted white this time.

Yeah AT&T waited 2 weeks on purpose so you couldn't return the 16gb version. I bet they will pull something similar now. Hoping that somebody is desperate to open another line or pay full price to get it.
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Same thing with last year. 64GB M7 cost the same as a 16GB S4.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFi whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.

oldblue910 said:
Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFI whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Well said. Personally, I have never used a Nexus device. I have heard bad things about LG's nexus. But I guess it wouldn't be fair of me to judge that device without actually using it. Samsung's TW provides me with exactly what I need. I love the look and a lot of the features. Like you, and as I have already stated, I will keep my pre-order intact and wait until I actually get the device to see for myself if the feature has been disabled or not.
If they do, in fact disable download booster, I probably will go with the international variant. No carrier branding whatsoever. I believe its the same case as in the past. NO LTE, but 21mbps HSPA+ which is fine for my needs. I think loosing LTE may be worth getting an untouched/non-carrier branded Samsung phone. NO limitations, no nothing. Having the ability to have a custom recovery and kernels would be a deal breaker alone. We already know the AT&T S5 will have a locked down bootloader.
One thing I am looking forward to with the AT&T S5 is its support for carrier aggregation. I live in the Chicago land area (one of AT&T's first LTE-A markets). So I am dying to see how much faster my speeds will be.

oldblue910 said:
Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFI whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Well said. Unlocked devices in the USA pretty much only fully support AT&T frequencies. Sure they may be unlocked, but use any other carrier and you'll end up losing out on one to numerous frequencies.
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SolarTrans said:
Well said. Unlocked devices in the USA pretty much only fully support AT&T frequencies. Sure they may be unlocked, but use any other carrier and you'll end up losing out on one to numerous frequencies.
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I can't speak for all unlocked devices, but every Nexus device with a cellular radio fully supports all bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. In addition, the Nexus 5 fully supports all Sprint CDMA and LTE bands, and the 2013 N7 has full Verizon LTE support.
On the GPE side, you're right. The Moto G and both generations of the HTC One lack support for HSPA+ on the AWS/1700 MHz band, which T-Mobile requires for any area not refarmed to use HSPA+ on the PCS/1900 MHz band.
That said, all GPEs fully support T-Mobile LTE.
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oldblue910 said:
I can't speak for all unlocked devices, but every Nexus device with a cellular radio fully supports all bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. In addition, the Nexus 5 fully supports all Sprint CDMA and LTE bands, and the 2013 N7 has full Verizon LTE support.
On the GPE side, you're right. The Moto G and both generations of the HTC One lack support for HSPA+ on the AWS/1700 MHz band, which T-Mobile requires for any area not refarmed to use HSPA+ on the PCS/1900 MHz band.
That said, all GPEs fully support T-Mobile LTE.
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Yeah that's true I forgot about T-Mobile. Nexus 5 did it right with good carrier support. GPE supporting T-Mobile and AT&T is nice, but nowhere near ideal. Case in point the M8 unlocked and Dev editions only support AT&T. Also, I think the unlocked iPhones support all the US carriers (99% sure).
Point is, to my knowledge, unlocked device support in the USA is like this (greatest adoption to least):
1. AT&T
2. T-Mobile
3. Sprint (very little support)
4. Verizon (pretty much nothing)
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i'm confused, why doesn't everyone that want bigger memory space to just spend 35 dollars on amazon and get a 64GB micro card? that'd what i did so now when i get my AT&T S5, I'll have a total of 70 GBs free space....
i think you guys are crying way too much about this 16GB deal.

Thoughts on Download Booster Being Disabled?

Today I posted this on G+:
https://plus.google.com/104522596589171041648/posts/JfBDxdTAjSR
I'd be willing to place down a wager that the +Verizon Wireless and +AT&T variants of the Galaxy S5 will have the download booster feature disabled.
I can't imagine those companies taking very kindly to the idea of using WiFi and LTE simultaneously, just due to the fear of pissed off customers going over their data plans because they had no idea what they were doing. Plus it has the real potential to create even more usage on their networks, which most bigger carriers don't seem to like.
Considering how providers like to push people to use WiFi whenever possible (doesn't ever carrier have a WiFi finder app these days?), yeah, I don't see the big boys taking too kindly to the download booster. I guess we'll find out in a little under 2 weeks.
If my hunch is correct, I'd highly suggest that anyone owning affected variants scream and complain to anyone who will listen. This will hopefully lead to the guilty carriers releasing statements saying "The exclusion of the download booster functionality was an oversight and not intentional. We will fix this issue in a future software update."
Any thoughts?

It better not be. But yes, I can see them doing that. I say, it's my data, let me use it anyway I want to.
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Well AT&T's sure doesn't mention download booster anywhere on the S5 page. I swear to God if they disabled it I will raise hell. Such a great feature too.
But these larger carriers have to much control. They really shouldn't be able to touch any device or modify it. Only Samsung should do that. If T-Mobile didn't have such spotty coverage by me, I'd be on them in a second ordering my S5 instead of ATT.
Ordering the non carrier version of the S5 isn't an option either because it so conveniently doesn't support bands 4 and 17. WOW

That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.

I could be wrong but i would imagine there is a setting you can disable to prevent yourself from constantly using both. So it should be in the purchasers hands hence no reason for AT&T to disable it to prevent data overages. That being said, AT&T is a company that likes to piss everyone off and remove features that are major selling points just because they can.

karmuh said:
I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8

MattMJB0188 said:
I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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oldblue910 said:
That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.

MattMJB0188 said:
Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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I ordered a white one too. The GS4 GPE only comes in white so I'm used to white Galaxy devices now. haha
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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natefish said:
This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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I am hoping that there is a way to disable it, as I really don't need it.
As it turns out, I changed my mind.. Cancelled my order and ordered HTC One M8

http://techknowzone.com/how-to-use-download-booster-in-samsung-galaxy-s5/
According to that article, not only can you disable it, but it actually doesnt impact normal web browsing or downloading small files. All the more reason AT&T has no excuse to disable it. For the average consumer, you wont got over your data simply because its on. If you arent downloading files over 30mb, it does nothing.

I'm sure the feature isn't there on the store models. Maybe because no sim card or active data connection
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.

daraj said:
Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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yes its out. also got some pics

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yes its out. also got some pics
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Wow... Well hopefully the floor model isn't running final software and there will be an OTA before launch. I'm not going to freak out just yet.
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daraj said:
Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.

MattMJB0188 said:
If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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I'm going to head over to the biggest corporate store in the area tonight and see if they have a GS5 on the floor. If so, I'll try to verify it. If it's true, you can bet your ass I'm canceling my preorder.
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Some pics from the store today
Sorry they came up inverted.

Switching from verizon...

currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-

Should try prepaid T-Mobile first. Service might suck and then you will be mad. Or it could same or better and wonder why you did t switch as fast as you could.

masri1987 said:
currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
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I live in DC but travel back and forth to my hometown which is (Brooklyn, NY). The service is great within any major city. I've had bad service in West Virginia (which is pretty rural).
I honestly think T-Mobile's customer service is great and if I'm not mistaken they work 24/7.
Right now my girlfriend and I are on the "2 for $100" family plan that you speak of and it would of been 2 for $100 but we both have financed phones (she has the S5 & I have the Note 4) and we both have insurance. Our bill is roughly $180.
Conclusion, its not a bad deal and what I love is no contract and we have JUMP which allows us to switch phones as many times as we want (for a fee of course).

masri1987 said:
currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
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I was a long time VZW customer for 14 years living in Chicago. I recently moved to Scottsdale in August. The recent Galaxy S4 OTA from VZW rendered my phone useless. Twelve to twenty reboots daily. After 6 replacements Verizon refused to switch out to another model phone. Tech Support had the balls to suggest that I buy a phone on Craigslist even though my current phone was still under factory warranty. I made the switch to T-Mobile in November and couldn't be happier. Faster and better LTE coverage than VZW. Plus unlocked bootloaders and more affordable plans. TMO just announced their Data Stash program effective 1/15/15. Another win win for the Un Carrier...... Go for it my friend
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I was a long time VZW customer for 14 years living in Chicago. I recently moved to Scottsdale in August. The recent Galaxy S4 OTA from VZW rendered my phone useless. Twelve to twenty reboots daily. After 6 replacements Verizon refused to switch out to another model phone. Tech Support had the balls to suggest that I buy a phone on Craigslist even though my current phone was still under factory warranty. I made the switch to T-Mobile in November and couldn't be happier. Faster and better LTE coverage than VZW. Plus unlocked bootloaders and more affordable plans. TMO just announced their Data Stash program effective 1/15/15. Another win win for the Un Carrier...... Go for it my friend
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the answer i was looking for, you've made my decision. Getting two Note 4's ,, was considering Nexus 6 but na, i have the note 4 with vz and i hate it because of the locked bootloader too.
I worked for vz corp in chandler for the last 9.5 years up to November 1st. So Yeah, you're experience sounds about right, and i def don't wanna be treated like a VZ Consumer so I have til the end of the month before i'm converted back to a consumer account with consumer pricing..
Thank you all for your opinions...
I will be going for the 2 for 100$ with the monthly payments and insurance i'm also about 180$
Q: can i pay the phone off sooner if i wish?

masri1987 said:
the answer i was looking for, you've made my decision. Getting two Note 4's ,, was considering Nexus 6 but na, i have the note 4 with vz and i hate it because of the locked bootloader too.
I worked for vz corp in chandler for the last 9.5 years up to November 1st. So Yeah, you're experience sounds about right, and i def don't wanna be treated like a VZ Consumer so I have til the end of the month before i'm converted back to a consumer account with consumer pricing..
Thank you all for your opinions...
I will be going for the 2 for 100$ with the monthly payments and insurance i'm also about 180$
Q: can i pay the phone off sooner if i wish?
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Yep you have the option of paying off your new N4 with no penalties. You will not regret your decision. If you are into rooting and modding your phone Dynamic Kat & Fire Kat are great Roms to check out. Welcome aboard and feel free to PM me if you need more help. Cheers and Happy Holidays!
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cbmggm said:
Yep you have the option of paying off your new N4 with no penalties. You will not regret your decision. If you are into rooting and modding your phone Dynamic Kat & Fire Kat are great Roms to check out. Welcome aboard and feel free to PM me if you need more help. Cheers and Happy Holidays!
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Sounds good, thank you and happy holidays to all!

These guys all hit it spot on... I might even go as far as to say try the test drive program. Yes yes its an iPhone, butttttt, its a no strings attached way to test coverage for seven days.
Moral of the story:
You want to be sure of your coverage over everything. If coverage is good where you live/commute/reside/work/whatever, then you probably won't have a better experience than with T-Mobile. And the network/coverage/plans/deals just keep getting better and better, with no signs of slowing down.

i'm on t-mobile...
couple of questions, i have wanam ,but i don't see the option to change the mapping of our recents\back button ( want the recents to be menu and long back button to be recents)

oh also, is there a dropbox offer for T-Mo note 4 buyers?

also when wifi calling is enabled, sms fails immediately in hangouts when trying to send (can receive though)
turn off wifi calling and boom it works. any ideas?

narrowed down sms via wifi issue (kernel related)
So does anyone know about dropbox offers? and swapping recents for menu? thanks.

Remap recents button to menu
I use the Xposed Additions module found in Xposed to remap the Recents button.

tsdsbrk said:
I use the Xposed Additions module found in Xposed to remap the Recents button.
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perfect.... thank you..
Dropbox should be offering t-mo note 4 buyers a year promo like before... any ideas?

seems like i get the dropbox offer
everytime i clean flash a new rom

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everytime i clean flash a new rom
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do you use previously created drop box account or new one?

i use a previously created one
except for the 1st time the offer popped up

does wifi calling feature use more battery?

So having a peculiar situation , with text over wifi calling,
I got my phone with NJ7 , didn't know any better and flashed a NK4 rom, and while at work wifi texts weren't going through, so i went home flashed full firmware tested at home wifi seemed to work just fine, came back to work today, while wifi calling is on it doesn't work immediately gives me message failed msg using hangouts, but with wifi calling on work wifi using stock sms app works fine, what could it be??
Why would hangouts work over wifi calling on home network on hangouts but not on work wifi on hangouts?

masri1987 said:
So having a peculiar situation , with text over wifi calling,
I got my phone with NJ7 , didn't know any better and flashed a NK4 rom, and while at work wifi texts weren't going through, so i went home flashed full firmware tested at home wifi seemed to work just fine, came back to work today, while wifi calling is on it doesn't work immediately gives me message failed msg using hangouts, but with wifi calling on work wifi using stock sms app works fine, what could it be??
Why would hangouts work over wifi calling on home network on hangouts but not on work wifi on hangouts?
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Post a screen shot of the settings for WiFi calling. What apps are you using besides hangouts and stock?
Any groans or Handcent so forth
BAD ASS NOTE 4