Guys, i own a Droid 4 right now but i'm sort of wanting an upgrade.
Is the Photon Q that much better (except for the SIM issue) than a Droid 4?
And the Terrain, it is cheap but locked down, worth waiting for someone to unlock the bootloader?
Thanks!
rpadula said:
Guys, i own a Droid 4 right now but i'm sort of wanting an upgrade.
Is the Photon Q that much better (except for the SIM issue) than a Droid 4?
And the Terrain, it is cheap but locked down, worth waiting for someone to unlock the bootloader?
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/general/downgrade-to-droid-4-t2912235/page2
this might answer your questions about photon q
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What is the difference or is it the same phone? I've been pondering this for a while now, but never ask the question.
if i had both i would tell you
ha ha... two different phones... got it
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What is the difference or is it the same phone? I've been pondering this for a while now, but never ask the question.
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The difference between the Droid and the Milestone is that the Droid has a slightly higher clock speed (600MHz compared to 550), but the biggest thing is that it has an unlocked bootloader. That enables the use of full custom ROMs, whereas the Milestone is quite limited due to its locked bootloader.
actually the main difference is that droid is CDMA (no sim card) as compared to european milestone (sim rad). so the difference is the radio used. AFAIK other hardware used is the same on both.
also the droid has unlocked bootloader as compared to locked milestone.
edit> and there was some type of qwerty keyboard on droid that wasn't on milestone I think - the flat keys version.
Offcourse milestone is worst as the Droid is already unlocked and 600Mhz instead of 550 in mIlestone
as said above. droid has other radio and unlocked bootloader.
Each device requires a different kernel, and each has different options / modules. For "identical" phones, it is surprising how much has to be changed in a rom to port from one to the other.
Multi touch support
Also i do believe the Droid (stock at least) did not come with multitouch suport, whereas the Milestone does come with it. Apart from that, all as been said.
As the title says, I've just about had it with Motorola and Verizon's locked bootloader fiasco. I really like the Bionic, and it suits most of my needs, but lack of robust developer activity because of the bootloader is pissing me off (hats off to the devs that stick in there and keep working around the restrictions.
That being said, I'm starting to think about a new phone. Really sucks, as the Bionic is a great phone.
Obviously, I want something with an unlocked bootloader. Also looking for dual-core, 4G LTE (Verizon), and not looking to downgrade on CPU speed, RAM, storage, or screen size/resolution. Of course, if I could upgrade one or more of those, that would be nice, too.
Any suggestions?
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Looks like the Galaxy Nexus may be a good alternative. Is the Verizon version locked? If so, can it be unlocked? Any downsides over the Bionic (hardware-wise)?
Flapjack said:
As the title says, I've just about had it with Motorola and Verizon's locked bootloader fiasco. I really like the Bionic, and it suits most of my needs, but lack of robust developer activity because of the bootloader is pissing me off (hats off to the devs that stick in there and keep working around the restrictions.
That being said, I'm starting to think about a new phone. Really sucks, as the Bionic is a great phone.
Obviously, I want something with an unlocked bootloader. Also looking for dual-core, 4G LTE (Verizon), and not looking to downgrade on CPU speed, RAM, storage, or screen size/resolution. Of course, if I could upgrade one or more of those, that would be nice, too.
Any suggestions?
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Looks like the Galaxy Nexus may be a good alternative. Is the Verizon version locked? If so, can it be unlocked? Any downsides over the Bionic (hardware-wise)?
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the vzw gnex comes with an unlockable boot loader. I switched from the bionic to the GNex in December because the bionic was unusable (poor data connection, frequent lock ups, etc.). VZW finally released an update for the bionic in February (5 months after release) which made it work but e damage was done - no more Moto blur or locked boot loaders for me.
Gnex = galaxy nexus?
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Gnex = galaxy nexus?
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yeah, sorry
PhilDX said:
yeah, sorry
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No problem.
I'm going to give the .904 update and Eclipse 2.2 a shot before I throw in the towel. I'm not eligible for a Verizon upgrade until Feb 2013. The cost of the phone alone is too much for me at this time. Unless you know of a way for me to convince Verizon to upgrade me earlier.
The issue isn't entirely the locked bootloader. There are devices with unlocked bootloaders, such as the LG Revolution, that have less development than the Bionic. While the locked bootloader is an issue, its not the only issue. If you want good development community, go with HTC or a Nexus.
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Hi,
Now that there is a real possibility that motorola unlock the droid 3 bootloader, will it be possible to flash a modified radio that will bypass Verizon's subsidy lock? this would solve the simlock problem for all of us stuck with locked phones not responding to normal unlock codes available online.
If I'm correct this has already been done on the atrix?
What do you think? if it's possible we could gather up a task force to do the job.
A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
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Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
vbhokiefan said:
Its been all over the web. (although the only phone on the list is Sprint's Photon Q which was already announced as unlockable)
BUT
1. If you think Moto will unlock the bootloader so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone......
or
2. If you think VZW would allow Moto to unlock the bootloader (if you're in the US) so you can run ICS or JB on your D3 rather than buy a new phone.....
you, my friend, are
sorry, but that's the cold hard truth.
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Actually I'm a bit , nonetheless I'm really hoping that it will be possible to unlock my Droid3.
I live outside the US and none of the subsidy codes I bought over the web worked. *
running ICS/JB on this phone is only a matter of tie, whether the BL gets unlocked or not, thanks to Hashcode's et al. efforts.
What I hope will happen if/when the BL gets unlocked is the possibilty to run custom/patched radio that will bypass Verizon's *%$£d subsidy lock.
LaZiODROID said:
A true bootloader unlock from Motorola? Where did you hear about this?
Sent from my HTC Raider
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Yes motodev has released a bootloader unlock tool. The only devices supported are photon q, razr dev edition (which was always unlockable) and the xoom. We are likely to see more devices going forward but i doubt any older devices will get support. As mentioned by someone else, why open up more options for us, when they can get us to buy a new device.
Honestly I don't know why they bother. Seems in the end many devices get their bootloader bypassed or cracked. Kecex is going to support a number of devices. The verizon sgs3 got cracked in a couple weeks. All they do is drive innovation in hacking.
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First, the bootloader has to be unlockable which the Droid 3's is not. Motorola would have to release an updated bootloader which they will not do.
The site also states that August 2012 and future devices will be able to access this feature/function. Nothing for current devices.
droid 3 xt883 chıne rom unlocked ?
Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Theri0n said:
Never with Droid 3. As fas as I understand Droid 3 is the most replaced phone in the history of Verizon. They have lotsa problems with stock-flashed handsets and it's going to be total disaster if they officially allow custom ROMs.
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Why? Just make it so unlocking voids warranty - so you can't send it back
Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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xantanion said:
Even without an official bootloader unlock I am quite sure there will be a bypass shortly.
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There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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There already is. Kernel is still alpha but it's usable.
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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We're talking about sim unlocking, not custom kernels, do you think once the kexec is done it will allow custom basebands ?
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me my self i think it wood work. but i think they need so me keys for the droid 3 to get that working but it will help a lot of others that can not unlock with a unlock code to bypass it to get there phones working on at&t
Hi
I recently dropped my Droid 3 that had been unlocked by my ex boyfriend in water and was unable to save it. I do not believe I can do the process myself. I am wondering if there is any one close to the Springfield, IL area that can like meet me and help me or do it for me and I can pay them. I really loved that phone. I don't think I would be happy with a different one. Thanks
How sales of phone going? This is important for have more devs working with device.
4 out of 5 stores in my area were out of stock of the 64gb last night. (Southern California)
The only thing stopping development is the locked bootloader
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The only thing stopping development is the locked bootloader
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But moto maxx here in my. Country as unlocked bootloader method.
Quick question as I didn't want to open a new thread. I found a turbo on ebay that is verizon phone. Will it work with any carrier outside USA? (I am in Greece) or do I have to unlock it, and if I do have to unlock it which is the way to do it?
Just received my 64gb Turbo, like it so far. Very fast.
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Quick question as I didn't want to open a new thread. I found a turbo on ebay that is verizon phone. Will it work with any carrier outside USA? (I am in Greece) or do I have to unlock it, and if I do have to unlock it which is the way to do it?
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All Verizon phones are SIM-unlocked per an agreement they had with an organization within our government (FCC), so the only things you need to check are the radio bands that the Droid Turbo supports vs the bands used by the carrier you're planning on having the phone on.
Hi,
I live in Israel and about 3 weeks ago got a Droid Turbo from the US (its the 64GB Ballistic Nylon version).
Overall the phone works fine here, I think the reception is not the best comparing to my good old HTC One X but I will have to do more tests in that area.
Anyway, because the Moto Maxx is an international version of the Turbo I was wondering if it is possible to use the Moto Maxx stock rom on my Turbo?
The reasons I thought about it is because I really don't like the Verizon's softwares, partially because I have no use in them here and I don't like being forced to have softwares I didn't install myself
The second and main reason is because the Moto Maxx is an international version so I think it will be more compatible with my country's network requirements.
Do you guys think it can be done? I think both versions are identical so I can't think of any reason why it won't work.
According to GSMArena.com the only differences are:
One of the LTE bands (13 vs 17):
Droid Turbo: LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13).
Moto Maxx: LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17).
And the screen types (though I think Super AMOLED and OLED screens are exactly the same):
Droid Turbo: Super AMOLED screen.
Moto Maxx: OLED screen.
So to sum it up, did I get it right or have I just waisted 3 minutes of your life...?
Thanks guys !
no, it cannot be done
Bobboman said:
no, it cannot be done
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Care to elaborate on your answer...?
Thanks !
No, it's not feasibly possible to install Moto Maxx software on a Turbo, especially without a bootloader unlock. With a bootloader unlock, it may be possible, but the Turbo doesn't even have root yet. As for your dislike of the Verizon apps, it's possible to "disable" (disabling them hides them as well) them. I can send you a guide link if you want.
i would also like to point out that the two devices don't even share the same Cell Radios sou you could end up bricking your phone even with an unlocked bootloader
Rotem_46 said:
Hi,
I live in Israel and about 3 weeks ago got a Droid Turbo from the US (its the 64GB Ballistic Nylon version).
Overall the phone works fine here, I think the reception is not the best comparing to my good old HTC One X but I will have to do more tests in that area.
Anyway, because the Moto Maxx is an international version of the Turbo I was wondering if it is possible to use the Moto Maxx stock rom on my Turbo?
The reasons I thought about it is because I really don't like the Verizon's softwares, partially because I have no use in them here and I don't like being forced to have softwares I didn't install myself
The second and main reason is because the Moto Maxx is an international version so I think it will be more compatible with my country's network requirements.
Do you guys think it can be done? I think both versions are identical so I can't think of any reason why it won't work.
According to GSMArena.com the only differences are:
Thanks guys !
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Out of curiosity, why didn't you just buy a Maxx instead of the Turbo?
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Out of curiosity, why didn't you just buy a Maxx instead of the Turbo?
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Well, I got the turbo for $530 brand new and the Maxx was over $700 so...
r3pwn said:
No, it's not feasibly possible to install Moto Maxx software on a Turbo, especially without a bootloader unlock. With a bootloader unlock, it may be possible, but the Turbo doesn't even have root yet. As for your dislike of the Verizon apps, it's possible to "disable" (disabling them hides them as well) them. I can send you a guide link if you want.
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I meant after the Turbo will get root or bootloader unlocked of course, I guess I should have mentioned it before
About disabling the softwares, thanks for that but I have already done that
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i would also like to point out that the two devices don't even share the same Cell Radios sou you could end up bricking your phone even with an unlocked bootloader
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What do you mean by different Cell Radios ? The only difference I saw was the LTE band (13 vs 17). I'm not even sure what that means but I can get LTE right now.
Thanks guys !
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Well, I got the turbo for $530 brand new and the Maxx was over $700 so...
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Ahh, yeah I can see that!
Well, hopefully before long we'll have root and then you can get rid of all the stuff you don't want!