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Is there any downside to the Moto Maxx (intnl) version of the Droid Turbo? (I use t-mobile)
No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
I didn't root, so I like the absence of Verizon bloatware on the Maxx.
I was waffling and wondering about a One M9, but just got a Maxx this week, using on T-Mobile (thanks to ChazzMatt and others advice). Fantastic phone...the ONLY thing I miss is the IR Blaster (on my G2 and M7).
No moto maxx is better
matheus_sc said:
No moto maxx is better
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No moto maxx is better, than what?
this thread gives me headaches....
adrynalyne said:
No moto maxx is better, than what?
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Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
matheus_sc said:
Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better.
adrynalyne said:
What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better.
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Sorry my english is very bad.
So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
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So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
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If you can find the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by other (smaller) CDMA/LTE carriers, yes it will work on Verizon. The XT1250 has CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands. It's identical to the Droid Turbo, even the same FCC ID, but branded as "Moto Maxx".
The international Moto Maxx XT1225 will not work on Verizon. It's it's GSM/HSPA/LTE only without Verizon's LTE bands. I own two XT1225 and am running one AT&T GoPhone.
Both Moto Maxx models have unlockable boot loader and ability to root.
Thx. I guess I should have done more research before committing to the Turbo. Other than the lack of root, I really do love my Turbo.
Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
ChazzMatt said:
No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
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Thanks! So to confirm - it has all the bands T-mobile uses?
I ask because I have had a strange issue where I was out and about and my phone told me it had H+ reception... but I could get any web page to load (also no voice typing would work) until I rebooted it and it was saying LTE again.
matheus_sc said:
Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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Thats doesnt mean the maxx is better. I have a turbo that works great out of the box compared to all the issues you all are having with the lollipop build that wasnt even supposed to be distributed. There is no better phone out of the two.
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Thanks! So to confirm - it has all the bands T-mobile uses?
I ask because I have had a strange issue where I was out and about and my phone told me it had H+ reception... but I could get any web page to load (also no voice typing would work) until I rebooted it and it was saying LTE again.
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Has the main LTE bands 2, 4. Does not have LTE band 12, but neither does the Turbo.
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Thats doesnt mean the maxx is better. I have a turbo that works great out of the box compared to all the issues you all are having with the lollipop build that wasnt even supposed to be distributed. There is no better phone out of the two.
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Sorry, it does mean it's better because it gives you more options if you want to root and install custom software. You're on XDA.
Not sure why you are mentioning the test version of Lollipop. I didn't. I'm not running it and has no relevance to this discussion at hand. I'm talking about unlocking bootloader and rooting -- so you can have Root Browser, Adaway, Titanium Backup, etc. All the great apps that need ROOT. Like your user name, so you should know how important that is.
Also for someone SPECIFICALLY asking about T-mobile, with the XT1225 Moto Maxx you don't have to even uninstall all the useless Verizon bloatware.
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Has the main LTE bands 2, 4. Does not have LTE band 12, but neither does the Turbo.
Sorry, it does mean it's better because it gives you more options if you want to root and install custom software. You're on XDA.
Also for someone SPECIFICALLY asking about T-mobile, with the XT1225 Moto Maxx you don't have to even uninstall all the useless Verizon bloatware.
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The person is on tmobile. If he were to get the turbo there is a program that can disable any apk on it without root.
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The person is on tmobile. If he were to get the turbo there is a program that can disable any apk on it without root.
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and the Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- so re-sale value is greater. For AT&T and T-mobile. Has ALL the AT&T bands, even LTE band 5 is not mentioned in the "official" specs.
And that answer doesn't even address TWRP recovery and titanium backup.
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and the Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- so re-sale value is greater. For AT&T and T-mobile. Has ALL the AT&T bands, even if not mentioned in the "offcial" specs.
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Dude I am not going to get in a pissing contest with you. To you the maxx may be the best but to someone else the turbo is better. It all depends on the user. To say one phone is better because it has a unlocked bootloader and root is quite ignorant to say the least. Have u tried the turbo? if not you cant compare it even though they may be similar. Have a good day
I brought the test up because the majority of maxx users on here have flashed that. I for one love root, and flashing. But again there are some that could care less.
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Dude I am not going to get in a pissing contest with you. To you the maxx may be the best but to someone else the turbo is better. It all depends on the user. To say one phone is better because it has a unlocked bootloader and root is quite ignorant to say the least. Have u tried the turbo? if not you cant compare it even though they may be similar. Have a good day
I brought the test up because the majority of maxx users on here have flashed that. I for one love root, and flashing. But again there are some that could care less.
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I'm not getting into a contest either, but I just can't believe you are saying a phone with IDENTICAL hardware specs that can be unlocked, rooted, with TWRP recovery (as well as Titanium backup) is not even a shade better than the other phone that does not have those ADVANTAGES. And saying this in XDA, a developer's forum.
For a person with T-mobile, both have the LTE bands 2, 4. So no difference there, but all the other stuff is different.
But I"ll leave it there. To each his own.
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I'm not getting into a contest either, but I just can't believe you are saying a phone with IDENTICAL hardware specs that can be unlocked, rooted, with TWRP recovery (as well as Titanium backup) is not even a shade better than the other phone that does not have those ADVANTAGES. And saying this in XDA, a developer's forum.
For a person with T-mobile, both have the LTE bands 2, 4. So no difference there, but all the other stuff is different.
But I"ll leave it there. To each his own.
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Lets back up a bit from what i said in my last post. I have a nexus 6 and a droid turbo. I chose the nexus 6 for my daily driver because it has root and the works. I love rooting and custom roms. I am bringing this up because there are people on here that could care less about root. So to them an unlocked bootloader/root means nothing to them. The want a phone that works excellent out of the box. So to them the droid turbo is the better of the two or vice versa.
Will changing the Build.prop to something like OPEN on the Build.target.operator make the Non Verizon sim go away when theres an AT&T sim in the phone?
No one? I'd really like to know before going through the hassle of getting one. Thanks
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Maybe you can try moto maxx, its unlocked, have oficial cm support and exact same hardware of droid turbo
matheus_sc said:
Maybe you can try moto maxx, its unlocked, have oficial cm support and exact same hardware of droid turbo
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Yeah I`d rather have it, But the price is much more. $630 new vs about $350-$400 used.
My only worry about the DROID Turbo / Maxx is the screen tint
Only in low bright i see, more than 40% is pretty great color and accuracy too, ig you install cm 12 have full rgb control
anybody have any thoughts? I've currently got the LG G3 and am sick of the continually overheating while running GPS. Makes it tough to get places when the phone keeps shutting down. Been looking around and am debating the turbo due to the turbo charging speed. would ya do it??
That's a tough choice. My gf has a g3 and I have a turbo. The g3 is amazing. Better camera in low light, rootable and unlocked bootloader and a ton of development already done on it whereas the turbo, there is a lot less. But my turbo lasts way longer, doesn't overheat at all. It's really an amazing device. If you can handle the little bit extra weight and it being thicker to an extent, then grab the Turbo for sure.
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I love my Turbo, but I've never seen a G3. The turbo charging works great. Also, jcase and beaups are actively working on a bootloader unlock for the Turbo. See here: https://twitter.com/therootninja. Also also, why would you get a G3 when the G4 is out?
EDIT: Never mind. I misread.
Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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XT1250 = unlocked CDMA version (Moto Maxx)
XT1254 = Verizon Droid Turbo
And the only thing that makes it "near equivalent" and not "equivalent" is the name. They are electrically identical.
G3 is nowhere near Droid Turbo, it would be a nice upgrade over G3 but Droid Turbo 2 is about to be announced, so i would wait for dt2 announcement instead of buying droid turbo unless it is cheap.
GeodudeFFP said:
Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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XT1250 = unlocked CDMA version (Moto Maxx)
XT1254 = Verizon Droid Turbo
And the only thing that makes it "near equivalent" and not "equivalent" is the name. They are electrically identical.
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Yeah, same FCC ID = same device, same bands.
Someone I'm chatting with on Hangouts just got an XT1250 and flashed the Droid Turbo 5.1 and radio over it to basically turn it into an bootloader unlocked Droid Turbo....
I was able to get it at Sprocket! (Well, waiting until Monday until they have the Black version.) Ironically, the thing there were most concerned about was me disputing the charge on my CC. However, after some pleading, they agreed!
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Buying it on Monday, waiting for them to get the Black version in stock.
But they are willing to sell it, after some convincing.
All I care is to install 5.1, TWRP, and root. And maybe compile a custom kernel.
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So FYI, I got it all mostly working. The only problem I have right now is upload speeds are super slow.
Flashed the Verizon radio and 5.1 FW
gonna try wiping the radio and re-writing the radio
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Yes I flashed the Verizon Radio to the device
not the bootloader image, for obvious reasons
I wanted 5.1, so I didn't test until I had the VZW 5.1 with my SIM card
I'm going to try an reflash soon, and then get a new SIM just in case
I hope Verizon doesn't give me any trouble getting a new SIM at my local store
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Hello guys,
So yesterday I've been burglarized and lost my phone, a Droid Maxx.
I'm looking for a phone with the same size or less, and active notifications (is there a manufacturer doing these, except Motorola ?).
I loved the Droid Maxx except the locked bootloader which made me lose a lot of time, and I don't want to do it again.
If I read correctly the forum, the last firmware of the Droid Turbo doesn't work with sunshine, so I would be stuck trying to root with python scripts for days.
So I just would like your opinions about this. Is the Droid Turbo a good choice, how can I be sure to get one with firmware prior to SU4TL-49, should I look for the international Moto Maxx, or do you have some other models which combine average size, moto notifications and great battery life ?
I live in France and can find the Droid Turbo for 120$ on eBay US...
Thanks for your help, and have a nice day !
a-m13 said:
Hello guys,
So yesterday I've been burglarized and lost my phone, a Droid Maxx.
I'm looking for a phone with the same size or less, and active notifications (is there a manufacturer doing these, except Motorola ?).
I loved the Droid Maxx except the locked bootloader which made me lose a lot of time, and I don't want to do it again.
If I read correctly the forum, the last firmware of the Droid Turbo doesn't work with sunshine, so I would be stuck trying to root with python scripts for days.
So I just would like your opinions about this. Is the Droid Turbo a good choice, how can I be sure to get one with firmware prior to SU4TL-49, should I look for the international Moto Maxx, or do you have some other models which combine average size, moto notifications and great battery life ?
I live in France and can find the Droid Turbo for 120$ on eBay US...
Thanks for your help, and have a nice day !
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Is the Droid Turbo a good choice: Yes. I love it as much as the day I bought it.
How can you be sure to get one with firmware prior to SU4TL-49: Buy from a service like Swappa that will verify this for you, or ask the Ebay seller what the manufacture date of the phone is (I'm pretty sure it's on the side of the box somewhere). If the manufacture date is before the date that SU4TL-49 was released, and the phone is new, you're good to go. If you buy new from Verizon, there's a good chance you'll be fine (they won't open up a new package and update it), but it's a gamble.
Should you look for the Moto Maxx: Yeah, probably. The Moto Maxx is unlockable regardless of firmware (unlike the Turbo), and it probably has more GSM bands unlocked than the Turbo does since the Turbo was designed for a CDMA network. Since you live in France, you probably want to use a GSM network.
re: Quark for France
a-m13 said:
So I just would like your opinions about this. Is the Droid Turbo a good choice, how can I be sure to get one with firmware prior to SU4TL-49,
should I look for the international Moto Maxx,
or do you have some other models which combine average size, moto notifications and great battery life ?
I live in France and can find the Droid Turbo for 120$ on eBay US...
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TheSt33v said:
Should you look for the Moto Maxx: Yeah, probably. The Moto Maxx is unlockable regardless of firmware (unlike the Turbo), and it probably has more GSM bands unlocked than the Turbo does, since the Turbo was designed for a CDMA network. Since you live in France, you probably want to use a GSM network.
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Yes, for people who don't need CDMA or LTE band 13 the "international" Moto Maxx XT1225/Moto Turbo XT1225 (same device, same FCC ID, just different marketing names depending on where it was released) is your best bet. It's important you look at the model NUMBER (XT1225), not the model name. There's also a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, which is identical in every way to the Droid Turbo XT1254 -- same FCC ID, same radio bands -- except the XT1250 bootloader is easily unlocked for FREE via Motorola website. But it has CDMA bands and less LTE/HSPA bands than the "international" sibling, the XT1225. So, for France, the XT1225 would probably be better.
(The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 shows the "Droid Turbo" XT1254 was not an exclusive in any way to Verizon, not even exclusive Quark in the U.S. At least a dozen other regional U.S. CMDA/LTE carriers sold the XT1250, which is the exact same device as the XT1254. The only thing exclusive about the Droid Turbo XT1254 is "Droid" name -- which doesn't really mean anything -- and the locked down bootloader, which is not imposed on any other Motorola Quark phone.)
The Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 has more HSPA bands, more LTE bands. However, none of the Quarks (XT1254, XT1225, XT1250) have LTE band 20, which is used in Europe a lot. Doing some research, seems the carriers in France use LTE bands 3, 7, and 20? If LTE band 3 or 7 in your area, then you are in luck. If your carrier uses LTE band 20 in your area, then you will have to depend on your HSPA...
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All the Quarks have identical hardware, except for differences in internal memory (32GB/64GB) and back plates (kevlar-only or ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath).
Even though I live in the U.S., I own three of the "international" XT1225 as it has all the LTE bands I need for AT&T. Since it does have more bands, only comes in 64GB internal storage, with ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath and bootloader easily unlocked for FREE, the prices have not dropped on the XT1225 as much as the 32GB Droid Turbo XT1254 (less storage, less usable bands, problematic bootloader) which has more limited appeal. There is a 64GB version of the Droid Turbo, which also only comes in ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath, but all the used $120 eBay ones will be the lesser 32GB versions with kevlar-only backplate.
The XT1225 just had official Motorola Marshmallow released this last week, although all the Quarks have had custom Marshmallow ROMs (CM13, Resurrection Remix, Mokee AOSP) since February 2016. The XT1254 official Motorola Marshmallow ROM has still not been released.
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The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (which is fantastic since they are the bands used by my U.S. carrier, AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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For more information, see this post:
Thinking on buying a Moto Maxx, is it worth it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66188374&postcount=3
Wow, thank you for your detailed answers !
Of course I would prefer the XT1225, but I don't find it at a reasonable price. I'm looking for a used one : I don't want to spend more than 200 $ on a phone, and i'm glad I didn't pay a lot for my Droid Maxx (I'll miss this phone !).
I don't know if i'm allowed to post the link, but on eBay you can find the XT1254 starting at 119 $, and I can't find a Moto Maxx on sale. I'll try to find an eBay seller who can answer about the phone's software version.
If it can help other readers, in France, the XT1254 has the same HSPA bands (3G) as other phones, but lacks the LTE band 20 (Orange, maybe other) which is 800 Mhz and more and more used in my country. Only LTE 2600 Mhz can be used, and this frequency is only available in downtown.
So if I can find this phone at ~150$, which still has great performances I guess, I won't mind missing LTE. But the software version will be gambling (you can't even ask a question to vendors)...
Thank you both for your help !
Cheers
a-m13 said:
I don't know if i'm allowed to post the link, but on eBay you can find the XT1254 starting at 119 $, and I can't find a Moto Maxx on sale. I'll try to find an eBay seller who can answer about the phone's software version.
So if I can find this phone at ~150$, which still has great performances I guess, I won't mind missing LTE. But the software version will be gambling (you can't even ask a question to vendors)...
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Why can't you ask a question? Yes, you can ask questions of the seller on eBay. Some high-volume sellers may not answer, but individual sellers usually will.
I do all the time. I'll ask what version a router is, etc.
Down towards the bottom of the listing (not the bottom of the page, but just the listing), there's "Ask a Question".
Then in category, choose "Other".
In Chrome, choose Ctrl - F (find) and type in the word "question". It will take you right to the link on that page.
Look for the Moto Maxx XT1250. They have them on Jet.com I know, I'm sure they would pop up elsewhere also. probably the best bet
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Why can't you ask a question? Yes, you can ask questions of the seller on eBay. Some high-volume sellers may not answer, but individual sellers usually will.
I do all the time. I'll ask what version a router is, etc.
Down towards the bottom of the listing (not the bottom of the page, but just the listing), there's "Ask a Question".
Then in category, choose "Other".
In Chrome, choose Ctrl - F (find) and type in the word "question". It will take you right to the link on that page.
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Yes, sorry, I forgot to mention that I found only high-volume sellers, who makes the most interesting prices. I found a XT1254 64Gb for 145 $, which is more the price point I was looking for. I didn't find any of the Moto Maxx models on Jet.com ? And I'm not really aware of other famous American websites which could sell these kind of phones
Can you confirm me if, even with the last firmware which doesn't allow bootloader unlock, it's still possible to modify system partition with Qualcomm download mode ?
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Can you confirm me if, even with the last firmware which doesn't allow bootloader unlock, it's still possible to modify system partition with Qualcomm download mode ?
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If you can modify system partition, isn't that the same thing as having root?
That's the whole reason for the Droid Turbo bootloader unlock, so you can have root. Without that, no root.
I don't want to give incorrect information. Someone else like @jcase or another dev can answer better.
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If you can modify system partition, isn't that the same thing as having root?
That's the whole reason for the Droid Turbo bootloader unlock, so you can have root. Without that, no root.
I don't want to give incorrect information. Someone else like @jcase or another dev can answer better.
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No its not the same.
You van root turbo without bootloader unlock, the unlock just allows a proper root
a-m13 said:
Hello guys,
So yesterday I've been burglarized and lost my phone, a Droid Maxx.
I'm looking for a phone with the same size or less, and active notifications (is there a manufacturer doing these, except Motorola ?).
I loved the Droid Maxx except the locked bootloader which made me lose a lot of time, and I don't want to do it again.
If I read correctly the forum, the last firmware of the Droid Turbo doesn't work with sunshine, so I would be stuck trying to root with python scripts for days.
So I just would like your opinions about this. Is the Droid Turbo a good choice, how can I be sure to get one with firmware prior to SU4TL-49, should I look for the international Moto Maxx, or do you have some other models which combine average size, moto notifications and great battery life ?
I live in France and can find the Droid Turbo for 120$ on eBay US...
Thanks for your help, and have a nice day !
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I just bought a 64gb xt1254 phone for $159 usd in extremely close to new condition (I can't find a flaw) on .44 (sunshine friendly)
From this eBay buyer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381666078232
Sent from my DROID Turbo using XDA-Developers mobile app
Thanks for all your advices. So I got my new Droid today, and I'm glad it's on .44 firmware bought in eBay from "garanteecellular. Unfortunately they don't have 64 GB anymore. I'm not sure the next ones they get will have the same firmware.
See you soon on the Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx forums
Cheers
Edit : I have now an unlocked bootloader, and I can confirm LTE 2600Mhz is working in France with the Droid Turbo without any modification !
Hey,
I'm planning on getting an XT1254 Turbo. I'm coming from a Moto X 2014. Reasons are mostly battery life.
I've only found the XT1254 and XT1250 that are still selling online. I would prefer to get the .54 as I'd like the extra storage. As far as I read over here, the XT1254 is the Verizon version, XT1250 the Verizon Unlocked GSM version, and then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched, so I'm kinda set with the XT1254 which would be the Verizon version.
My carrier is Vodafone, in Europe.
Would I encounter any particular problems as far as carrier compatibility, GSM/LTE bands and such? Will it work on LTE on either of the available bands?
Would I be better off using the XT1250?
Thanks!
LE: All's good. See thread and last post.
inkmars said:
Hey,
I'm planning on getting an XT1254 Turbo. I'm coming from a Moto X 2014. Reasons are mostly battery life.
I've only found the XT1254 and XT1250 that are still selling online. I would prefer to get the .54 as I'd like the extra storage. As far as I read over here, the XT1254 is the Verizon version, XT1250 the Verizon Unlocked GSM version, and then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched, so I'm kinda set with the XT1254 which would be the Verizon version.
My carrier is Vodafone, in Europe.
Would I encounter any particular problems as far as carrier compatibility, GSM/LTE bands and such? Will it work on LTE on either of the available bands?
Would I be better off using the XT1250?
Thanks!
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XT1254 = XT1250. They have identical hardware. The only difference is software. The XT1250 is not a Verizon phone.
XT1254: Officially locked bootloader (unlockable via Sunshine for a fee), unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
XT1250: Officially unlockable bootloader, unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
As for band compatibility, your best bet would be to look up the bands your carrier uses and the bands that the phone you're considering is capable of receiving. However, just for some anecdotal evidence, I took my XT1254 to Germany, Sweden and Czechia using a German SIM card that I bought, and the phone worked perfectly in all of those places.
TheSt33v said:
XT1254 = XT1250. They have identical hardware. The only difference is software. The XT1250 is not a Verizon phone.
XT1254: Officially locked bootloader (unlockable via Sunshine for a fee), unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
XT1250: Officially unlockable bootloader, unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
As for band compatibility, your best bet would be to look up the bands your carrier uses and the bands that the phone you're considering is capable of receiving. However, just for some anecdotal evidence, I took my XT1254 to Germany, Sweden and Czechia using a German SIM card that I bought, and the phone worked perfectly in all of those places.
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Also for the op...
The XT1254 and XT1250 bands are the same. I've posted them many times. LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. Plus some HSPA (not as many as the XT1225), and CDMA.
XT1250 is 32GB only.
XT1254 is 32GB and some 64GB.
XT1225 is 64GB only.
If you're getting the XT1254 for additional storage, double check it's a 64GB model. Most are not.
Really appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
On a side note, does anyone know any other way of getting an XT1225 apart from ebay/amazon? I've also tried google searches; ended up on other selling platform sites but still nothing. Not even in used state.
Also, if it helps, I have a 64 GB XT1254. On the phone it says model: XT1254, type: M0DFE. That type number might help you distinguish between the 32 and 64GB models, but I don't know that for sure.
inkmars said:
Really appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
On a side note, does anyone know any other way of getting an XT1225 apart from ebay/amazon? I've also tried google searches; ended up on other selling platform sites but still nothing. Not even in used state.
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https://swappa.com/buy/moto-maxx-unlocked
There's a few used ones on here.
Never mind. I misread the site.
TheSt33v said:
https://swappa.com/buy/moto-maxx-unlocked
There's a few used ones on here.
Never mind. I misread the site.
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I wish. But I appreciate it
Just out of curiosity, why are you set on the Turbo/Maxx? There are plenty of better options out there.
PMed as to not clutter the thread
Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
inkmars said:
Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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He's wrong. No Verizon postpaid LTE phones have been carrier locked since 2012 FCC agreement.
I can show you YouTube videos and an XDA thread from November 2014 (just after release) showing Droid Turbo running on AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint. The Droid Turbo is not and has never been carrier locked.
No Verizon postpaid LTE phones are carrier locked (since 2012), or Verizon would have to pay hefty fines.
There's a lot of ignorance about carrier locked and bootloader lock. Many people don't know the difference. Plus Verizon infamously used to carrier lock their contract/postpaid phones (but haven't for about 5 years).
And yes, if you search the internet you will find a lot of those ignorant comments. Even here on XDA we had to educate people.
ChazzMatt said:
he's wrong. No Verizon postpaid LTE phones have been carrier locked since 2012 FCC agreement.
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Interesting.
Well, he doesn't seem sure if it's locked or not. I asked him to head over to Verizon and see if it's locked and, if that's the case, to tell me the unlock-fee. He just said that he's not familiar with the process and that he won't do it. As for me, I probably won't be able to do anything with the unlocking process since I'm in Europe. He's in the US.
I'm committed to buying it but If all fails and it's indeed locked, are my hands tied or am I able to do something from my end when it arrives?
Thanks again.
inkmars said:
Interesting.
Well, he doesn't seem sure if it's locked or not. I asked him to head over to Verizon and see if it's locked and, if that's the case, to tell me the unlock-fee. He just said that he's not familiar with the process and that he won't do it. As for me, I probably won't be able to do anything with the unlocking process since I'm in Europe. He's in the US.
I'm committed to buying it but If all fails and it's indeed locked, are my hands tied or am I able to do something from my end when it arrives?
Thanks again.
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My comments stand. Search here on XDA for Droid Turbo on other carriers. I'll try to find a post.
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Here you go:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/psa-droid-turbo-att-network-t3448833/page1
I know that post talks about AT&T a lot, but the point is the Droid Turbo has NEVER been carrier locked. But a lot of people think Verizon still does that. They're not allowed to, as a specific condition for having access to more LTE spectrum.
I didn't even think it was possible, so it didn't cross my mind to search for it. My bad!
Thanks for all the info!
inkmars said:
Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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There is no such thing as a carrier locked XT1254. Verizon is legally required to keep them carrier unlocked per an agreement they have with the FCC, and I'm pretty sure that asshole who runs the FCC hasn't gotten around to dismantling that requirement yet.
EDIT: Oops, missed a whole page of discussion. Ignore me.
Just bought the XT1254 that I mentioned earlier. Will do a follow-up when it's here and all's good. Thank you everyone.
inkmars said:
then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched
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This was why I bought my third XT1225 new in the box back in early 2016 -- as a backup phone, just so something like this wouldn't happen. I bought it while there was still a little supply available on eBay.
My wife and I have the other two as daily phones.
That third phone still new in the box. Whenever I decide to sell it, someone will be very lucky.
ChazzMatt said:
This was why I bought my third XT1225 new in the box back in early 2016 -- as a backup phone, just so something like this wouldn't happen. I bought it while there was still a little supply available on eBay.
My wife and I have the other two as daily phones.
That third phone still new in the box. Whenever I decide to sell it, someone will be very lucky.
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Yeah I realized I woke up too late to get a .25 or even .54s that are new in the box. Got the 2014 X back in 2015...time flew fast.
I would I'm planning on getting a 2nd one at some point soon...and the xt1225 would be better Promise I'd take care of it as if it was my baby.
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1st XT1254 arrived yesterday with 5.1 official. Will probably settle in a few days, then take the OTA to MM since I heard there are some battery improvements there too so it won't hurt. Soon after I'll Sunshine it and move on to cr most probably.
Factory reset it and popped in my Vodafone SIM from my Moto X2 and after a few seconds I got 4G without any settings changes on my end. 'Global' was already set by default so that was probably why it worked straight away.
Googled beforehand that Vodafone uses Band 3 and 20 here. Out of the ones that the XT1254 supports, only Band 3 is a match. So far I can't seem to notice any drawbacks from having only one out of two available 4G Bands, so all's good.
I ordered a 2nd XT1254 soon after the first one as I found even a better price and at 64GB instead of 32GB. This one will arrive this Tuesday and I'm optimistic it will be smooth sailing regarding Carrier/4G compatibility like with the 1st Droid.
Just out of curiosity I went into SIM Status to check the signal strength and compare it to my Moto X2 which has an amazing coverage. They're both sitting at -96.
So for anyone having doubts about Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 working to its fullest in Europe or anywhere else besides The U.S, just check your Carrier's supported 3G/4G bands and see if you have any match.
Any SIM card other than Verizon will work just as well as with a Verizon one. Only thing that you'll get is a notification every time you reboot the phone stating that the inserted SIM is not from Verizon. Dismiss and get going.
One other thing you'll want to check if you have issues calling someone is to head over in to the Dialer Settings and search for that one thing that will add prefix to the phone number (I forgot its name, but you'll find it easily). Even if you set the correct country you're in, you still might have issues calling. Just disable it so that it won't add any prefixes and you're good to go.
Thanks a lot @ChazzMatt and @TheSt33v for all the help.
inkmars said:
I ordered a 2nd XT1254 soon after the first one as I found even a better price and at 64GB instead of 32GB. This one will arrive this Tuesday and I'm optimistic it will be smooth sailing regarding Carrier/4G compatibility like with the 1st Droid.
Any SIM card other than Verizon will work just as well as with a Verizon one. Only thing that you'll get is a notification every time you reboot the phone stating that the inserted SIM is not from Verizon. Dismiss and get going.
Soon after I'll Sunshine it and move on to cr most probably.
Thanks a lot @ChazzMatt and @TheSt33v for all the help.
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Glad to be of help!
You'll like 64GB much better. Besides extra storage, all the 64GB Quarks have ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath, not just the kevlar backing.
I'm pretty sure installing custom ROM will take care of the Verizon annoyance SIM card notification.