Is there any downside to the Moto Maxx (intnl) version of the Droid Turbo? (I use t-mobile)
No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
I didn't root, so I like the absence of Verizon bloatware on the Maxx.
I was waffling and wondering about a One M9, but just got a Maxx this week, using on T-Mobile (thanks to ChazzMatt and others advice). Fantastic phone...the ONLY thing I miss is the IR Blaster (on my G2 and M7).
No moto maxx is better
matheus_sc said:
No moto maxx is better
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No moto maxx is better, than what?
this thread gives me headaches....
adrynalyne said:
No moto maxx is better, than what?
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Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
matheus_sc said:
Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better.
adrynalyne said:
What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better.
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Sorry my english is very bad.
So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
this_is_nascar said:
So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
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If you can find the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by other (smaller) CDMA/LTE carriers, yes it will work on Verizon. The XT1250 has CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands. It's identical to the Droid Turbo, even the same FCC ID, but branded as "Moto Maxx".
The international Moto Maxx XT1225 will not work on Verizon. It's it's GSM/HSPA/LTE only without Verizon's LTE bands. I own two XT1225 and am running one AT&T GoPhone.
Both Moto Maxx models have unlockable boot loader and ability to root.
Thx. I guess I should have done more research before committing to the Turbo. Other than the lack of root, I really do love my Turbo.
Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
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No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
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Thanks! So to confirm - it has all the bands T-mobile uses?
I ask because I have had a strange issue where I was out and about and my phone told me it had H+ reception... but I could get any web page to load (also no voice typing would work) until I rebooted it and it was saying LTE again.
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Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
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Thats doesnt mean the maxx is better. I have a turbo that works great out of the box compared to all the issues you all are having with the lollipop build that wasnt even supposed to be distributed. There is no better phone out of the two.
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Thanks! So to confirm - it has all the bands T-mobile uses?
I ask because I have had a strange issue where I was out and about and my phone told me it had H+ reception... but I could get any web page to load (also no voice typing would work) until I rebooted it and it was saying LTE again.
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Has the main LTE bands 2, 4. Does not have LTE band 12, but neither does the Turbo.
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Thats doesnt mean the maxx is better. I have a turbo that works great out of the box compared to all the issues you all are having with the lollipop build that wasnt even supposed to be distributed. There is no better phone out of the two.
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Sorry, it does mean it's better because it gives you more options if you want to root and install custom software. You're on XDA.
Not sure why you are mentioning the test version of Lollipop. I didn't. I'm not running it and has no relevance to this discussion at hand. I'm talking about unlocking bootloader and rooting -- so you can have Root Browser, Adaway, Titanium Backup, etc. All the great apps that need ROOT. Like your user name, so you should know how important that is.
Also for someone SPECIFICALLY asking about T-mobile, with the XT1225 Moto Maxx you don't have to even uninstall all the useless Verizon bloatware.
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Has the main LTE bands 2, 4. Does not have LTE band 12, but neither does the Turbo.
Sorry, it does mean it's better because it gives you more options if you want to root and install custom software. You're on XDA.
Also for someone SPECIFICALLY asking about T-mobile, with the XT1225 Moto Maxx you don't have to even uninstall all the useless Verizon bloatware.
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The person is on tmobile. If he were to get the turbo there is a program that can disable any apk on it without root.
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The person is on tmobile. If he were to get the turbo there is a program that can disable any apk on it without root.
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and the Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- so re-sale value is greater. For AT&T and T-mobile. Has ALL the AT&T bands, even LTE band 5 is not mentioned in the "official" specs.
And that answer doesn't even address TWRP recovery and titanium backup.
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and the Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- so re-sale value is greater. For AT&T and T-mobile. Has ALL the AT&T bands, even if not mentioned in the "offcial" specs.
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Dude I am not going to get in a pissing contest with you. To you the maxx may be the best but to someone else the turbo is better. It all depends on the user. To say one phone is better because it has a unlocked bootloader and root is quite ignorant to say the least. Have u tried the turbo? if not you cant compare it even though they may be similar. Have a good day
I brought the test up because the majority of maxx users on here have flashed that. I for one love root, and flashing. But again there are some that could care less.
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Dude I am not going to get in a pissing contest with you. To you the maxx may be the best but to someone else the turbo is better. It all depends on the user. To say one phone is better because it has a unlocked bootloader and root is quite ignorant to say the least. Have u tried the turbo? if not you cant compare it even though they may be similar. Have a good day
I brought the test up because the majority of maxx users on here have flashed that. I for one love root, and flashing. But again there are some that could care less.
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I'm not getting into a contest either, but I just can't believe you are saying a phone with IDENTICAL hardware specs that can be unlocked, rooted, with TWRP recovery (as well as Titanium backup) is not even a shade better than the other phone that does not have those ADVANTAGES. And saying this in XDA, a developer's forum.
For a person with T-mobile, both have the LTE bands 2, 4. So no difference there, but all the other stuff is different.
But I"ll leave it there. To each his own.
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I'm not getting into a contest either, but I just can't believe you are saying a phone with IDENTICAL hardware specs that can be unlocked, rooted, with TWRP recovery (as well as Titanium backup) is not even a shade better than the other phone that does not have those ADVANTAGES. And saying this in XDA, a developer's forum.
For a person with T-mobile, both have the LTE bands 2, 4. So no difference there, but all the other stuff is different.
But I"ll leave it there. To each his own.
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Lets back up a bit from what i said in my last post. I have a nexus 6 and a droid turbo. I chose the nexus 6 for my daily driver because it has root and the works. I love rooting and custom roms. I am bringing this up because there are people on here that could care less about root. So to them an unlocked bootloader/root means nothing to them. The want a phone that works excellent out of the box. So to them the droid turbo is the better of the two or vice versa.
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I know I am a newb here. But why Post Moto Maxx info in Droid Turbo Forums. Can someone please explain this to me?
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I know I am a newb here. But why Post Moto Maxx info in Droid Turbo Forums. Can someone please explain this to me?
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From a hardware standpoint, it is the same exact device. Sold in markets outside the US. Not to be confused with Droid Maxx from last year.
Fourty8 said:
From a hardware standpoint, it is the same exact device. Sold in markets outside the US. Not to be confused with Droid Maxx from last year.
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Thank you.
Fourty8 said:
From a hardware standpoint, it is the same exact device. Sold in markets outside the US. Not to be confused with Droid Maxx from last year.
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Except for the radios. No CDMA on the Maxx, right?
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Someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong but there are two variants, one with a CDMA radio (XT1224) sold on Verizon exclusively as the Droid Turbo and a GSM variant (XT1225) the Moto Maxx. The latter variant comes in two different enabled radio configurations, the one being sold currently in Brazil and Mexico and one that went through the FCC which is on sale in PR only for the moment.
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Thank you.
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also, we've asked mods for a forum specifically for the Moto Maxx and had no answer yet
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Someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong but there are two variants, one with a CDMA radio (XT1224) sold on Verizon exclusively as the Droid Turbo and a GSM variant (XT1225) the Moto Maxx. The latter variant comes in two different enabled radio configurations, the one being sold currently in Brazil and Mexico and one that went through the FCC which is on sale in PR only for the moment.
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As you requested: Verizon CDMA/LTE is XT1254
No one is going to do any real development on this device at this point so no need to waste two forums. There really isn't anything meaningful to talk about on XDA regarding the Turbo and the moto maxx doesn't have a big enough following. This has to be the most disappointing phone of 2014 from a development standout for users. no?
lol Thanks. I'm Maxx and already have everything I need with root. I would not have purchased the Turbo because of the bootloader. Been caught before with one that never unlocked and that was a lesson learned.
rayjr13 said:
As you requested: Verizon CDMA/LTE is XT1254
No one is going to do any real development on this device at this point so no need to waste two forums. There really isn't anything meaningful to talk about on XDA regarding the Turbo and the moto maxx doesn't have a big enough following. This has to be the most disappointing phone of 2014 from a development standout for users. no?
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At least moto maxx users like me have root that actually this is good enough for this really brilliant phone.
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rayjr13 said:
As you requested: Verizon CDMA/LTE is XT1254
No one is going to do any real development on this device at this point so no need to waste two forums. There really isn't anything meaningful to talk about on XDA regarding the Turbo and the moto maxx doesn't have a big enough following. This has to be the most disappointing phone of 2014 from a development standout for users. no?
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Develop apps, it is more rewarding than ricing out a phone and doesn't rely on root.
Huiver said:
At least moto maxx users like me have root that actually this is good enough for this really brilliant phone.
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Yea I think that Maxx would be a nice nice phone
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Develop apps, it is more rewarding than ricing out a phone and doesn't rely on root.
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Wow now that's a face I haven't crossed in a while! I thank you and my BAMF Tbolt thanks you (well my son's...now) Outside of making phone calls, it's kinda all rice to me short grain and long grains. I enjoy em all!
Hi,
I live in Israel and about 3 weeks ago got a Droid Turbo from the US (its the 64GB Ballistic Nylon version).
Overall the phone works fine here, I think the reception is not the best comparing to my good old HTC One X but I will have to do more tests in that area.
Anyway, because the Moto Maxx is an international version of the Turbo I was wondering if it is possible to use the Moto Maxx stock rom on my Turbo?
The reasons I thought about it is because I really don't like the Verizon's softwares, partially because I have no use in them here and I don't like being forced to have softwares I didn't install myself
The second and main reason is because the Moto Maxx is an international version so I think it will be more compatible with my country's network requirements.
Do you guys think it can be done? I think both versions are identical so I can't think of any reason why it won't work.
According to GSMArena.com the only differences are:
One of the LTE bands (13 vs 17):
Droid Turbo: LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13).
Moto Maxx: LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17).
And the screen types (though I think Super AMOLED and OLED screens are exactly the same):
Droid Turbo: Super AMOLED screen.
Moto Maxx: OLED screen.
So to sum it up, did I get it right or have I just waisted 3 minutes of your life...?
Thanks guys !
no, it cannot be done
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no, it cannot be done
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Care to elaborate on your answer...?
Thanks !
No, it's not feasibly possible to install Moto Maxx software on a Turbo, especially without a bootloader unlock. With a bootloader unlock, it may be possible, but the Turbo doesn't even have root yet. As for your dislike of the Verizon apps, it's possible to "disable" (disabling them hides them as well) them. I can send you a guide link if you want.
i would also like to point out that the two devices don't even share the same Cell Radios sou you could end up bricking your phone even with an unlocked bootloader
Rotem_46 said:
Hi,
I live in Israel and about 3 weeks ago got a Droid Turbo from the US (its the 64GB Ballistic Nylon version).
Overall the phone works fine here, I think the reception is not the best comparing to my good old HTC One X but I will have to do more tests in that area.
Anyway, because the Moto Maxx is an international version of the Turbo I was wondering if it is possible to use the Moto Maxx stock rom on my Turbo?
The reasons I thought about it is because I really don't like the Verizon's softwares, partially because I have no use in them here and I don't like being forced to have softwares I didn't install myself
The second and main reason is because the Moto Maxx is an international version so I think it will be more compatible with my country's network requirements.
Do you guys think it can be done? I think both versions are identical so I can't think of any reason why it won't work.
According to GSMArena.com the only differences are:
Thanks guys !
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Out of curiosity, why didn't you just buy a Maxx instead of the Turbo?
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Out of curiosity, why didn't you just buy a Maxx instead of the Turbo?
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Well, I got the turbo for $530 brand new and the Maxx was over $700 so...
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No, it's not feasibly possible to install Moto Maxx software on a Turbo, especially without a bootloader unlock. With a bootloader unlock, it may be possible, but the Turbo doesn't even have root yet. As for your dislike of the Verizon apps, it's possible to "disable" (disabling them hides them as well) them. I can send you a guide link if you want.
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I meant after the Turbo will get root or bootloader unlocked of course, I guess I should have mentioned it before
About disabling the softwares, thanks for that but I have already done that
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i would also like to point out that the two devices don't even share the same Cell Radios sou you could end up bricking your phone even with an unlocked bootloader
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What do you mean by different Cell Radios ? The only difference I saw was the LTE band (13 vs 17). I'm not even sure what that means but I can get LTE right now.
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Well, I got the turbo for $530 brand new and the Maxx was over $700 so...
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Ahh, yeah I can see that!
Well, hopefully before long we'll have root and then you can get rid of all the stuff you don't want!
anybody have any thoughts? I've currently got the LG G3 and am sick of the continually overheating while running GPS. Makes it tough to get places when the phone keeps shutting down. Been looking around and am debating the turbo due to the turbo charging speed. would ya do it??
That's a tough choice. My gf has a g3 and I have a turbo. The g3 is amazing. Better camera in low light, rootable and unlocked bootloader and a ton of development already done on it whereas the turbo, there is a lot less. But my turbo lasts way longer, doesn't overheat at all. It's really an amazing device. If you can handle the little bit extra weight and it being thicker to an extent, then grab the Turbo for sure.
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I love my Turbo, but I've never seen a G3. The turbo charging works great. Also, jcase and beaups are actively working on a bootloader unlock for the Turbo. See here: https://twitter.com/therootninja. Also also, why would you get a G3 when the G4 is out?
EDIT: Never mind. I misread.
Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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XT1250 = unlocked CDMA version (Moto Maxx)
XT1254 = Verizon Droid Turbo
And the only thing that makes it "near equivalent" and not "equivalent" is the name. They are electrically identical.
G3 is nowhere near Droid Turbo, it would be a nice upgrade over G3 but Droid Turbo 2 is about to be announced, so i would wait for dt2 announcement instead of buying droid turbo unless it is cheap.
GeodudeFFP said:
Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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TheSt33v said:
XT1250 = unlocked CDMA version (Moto Maxx)
XT1254 = Verizon Droid Turbo
And the only thing that makes it "near equivalent" and not "equivalent" is the name. They are electrically identical.
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Yeah, same FCC ID = same device, same bands.
Someone I'm chatting with on Hangouts just got an XT1250 and flashed the Droid Turbo 5.1 and radio over it to basically turn it into an bootloader unlocked Droid Turbo....
I was able to get it at Sprocket! (Well, waiting until Monday until they have the Black version.) Ironically, the thing there were most concerned about was me disputing the charge on my CC. However, after some pleading, they agreed!
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Buying it on Monday, waiting for them to get the Black version in stock.
But they are willing to sell it, after some convincing.
All I care is to install 5.1, TWRP, and root. And maybe compile a custom kernel.
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So FYI, I got it all mostly working. The only problem I have right now is upload speeds are super slow.
Flashed the Verizon radio and 5.1 FW
gonna try wiping the radio and re-writing the radio
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Yes I flashed the Verizon Radio to the device
not the bootloader image, for obvious reasons
I wanted 5.1, so I didn't test until I had the VZW 5.1 with my SIM card
I'm going to try an reflash soon, and then get a new SIM just in case
I hope Verizon doesn't give me any trouble getting a new SIM at my local store
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I want to buy a phone and I have a budget of 160$. I have found a Droid Turbo online for around 158$ and I find it perfect for me because it has an okay camera, good hardware and a fine size. The seller claims it to be on KK and say that it is GSM unlocked and will work on Verizon also. Will it work on my carrier if I update it to MM in the future? If it locks the network, how can I unlock it again?
Thanks in advance
muftiazan said:
I want to buy a phone and I have a budget of 160$. I have found a Droid Turbo online for around 158$ and I find it perfect for me because it has an okay camera, good hardware and a fine size. The seller claims it to be on KK and say that it is GSM unlocked and will work on Verizon also. Will it work on my carrier if I update it to MM in the future? If it locks the network, how can I unlock it again?
Thanks in advance
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Droid Turbo XT1254 is unlocked, FCC requires Verizon to unlock their phones for LTE. No, the eventual Marshmallow will not lock your phone from other carriers.
IF it's really on KitKat, you can flash SUTL-44 (Lollipop) from this forum, unlock bootloader and root. Do NOT NOT NOT take any OTA updates on the phone until you manually flash SUTL-44 from this forum. SUTL-49 ("security" update) will perm lock your bootloader.
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Droid Turbo XT1254 is unlocked, FCC requires Verizon to unlock their phones for LTE. No, the eventual Marshmallow will not lock your phone from other carriers.
IF it's really on KitKat, you can flash SUTL-44 (Lollipop) from this forum, unlock bootloader and root. Do NOT NOT NOT take any OTA updates on the phone until you manually flash SUTL-44 from this forum. SUTL-49 ("security" update) will perm lock your bootloader.
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I wouldnt mind having a locked bootloader. I have a locked M8. I need this phone for usage only. I would like to know if there is a better option I have in this price range.
Thanks in advance
This is a strong phone for the cost. I just bought one for my daughter. But moto updates are likely to stop after marshmallow.
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muftiazan said:
I wouldnt mind having a locked bootloader. I have a locked M8. I need this phone for usage only. I would like to know if there is a better option I have in this price range.
Thanks in advance
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A locked boot loader means Verizon still owns your phone. You can't block ads, you can't uninstall bloatware and you'll never get updates they don't want to give you. Like upcoming Nougat. Verizon still hasn't officially released Marshmallow for the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Unlocking the boot loader and rooting is FREEDOM. It's your phone. You can install Nougat when it comes out. You can install Marshmallow right now if you wanted (custom Marshmallow ROMS available since February 2016 -- still NOT released by Verizon/Motorola for the Droid Turbo).
But yes, it's still a strong phone. Specs were cutting edge, has kept up.
I own THREE XT1225, the "international" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254, even though I live in the U.S.A. The XT1225 has more LTE bands and HSPA bands than the XT1254, and bootloader unlocked for free by Motorola code. Of all the Quarks (XT1254/XT1250/XT1225), only Verizon's has carrier-locked bootloader.
Why do you want XT1254 if you live in India? Why not Moto Turbo XT1225?
Last week i just grab my Turbo (1st is unable to unlocked, 2nd the 64gb version, already unlocked it) because the screen size, battery, performance and price in 2016 is really reasonable.
No, don't do it. At least, wait til the new Nexus come out. Here's the deal. Finding a phone with similar specs isn't difficult these days, neither is finding a manufacturer with better support and customer service. If this phone came from some other company, I might say yes. If you don't like the new Nexus phones and can't shell out for an S7, this isn't a bad phone. But it needs TLC. And Moto isn't giving that out these days.
I haven't owned a phone where people haven't said the same thing about their manufacturer.
The truth of the matter is buying a high spec phone just ticks you off because it should be bought on KitKat and good for android 'o'. We're just annoyed that the money isn't there for them to continue the updates.
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Source: I own an att lollipop note 3. Grrr....
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The Horak said:
No, don't do it. At least, wait til the new Nexus come out. Here's the deal. Finding a phone with similar specs isn't difficult these days, neither is finding a manufacturer with better support and customer service. If this phone came from some other company, I might say yes. If you don't like the new Nexus phones and can't shell out for an S7, this isn't a bad phone. But it needs TLC. And Moto isn't giving that out these days.
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Finding another phone in the < $200 range with comparable battery life, a high res screen, Qi wireless charging and turbo charging IS difficult.
The battery life itself makes this one stand out against much of the competition, even at higher prices.
Summary of the phone's main feature weaknesses relative to current flagships:
1) Average quality camera, good by traditional Motorola standards, but inferior to flagship phones from competitors
2) No fingerprint reader (irrelevant to me, but some like it)
3) No flash memory slot
4) Verizon phone. Bootloader can be unlocked for $25 but push updates are slow (and probably will stop at Marshmallow, or might even stop with current Lollipop).
5) Rear facing speaker. Not the loudest speaker on the planet.
quadcrap1 said:
Finding another phone in the < $200 range with comparable battery life, a high res screen, Qi wireless charging and turbo charging IS difficult.
The battery life itself makes this one stand out against much of the competition, even at higher prices.
Summary of the phone's main feature weaknesses relative to current flagships:
1) Average quality camera, good by traditional Motorola standards, but inferior to flagship phones from competitors
2) No fingerprint reader (irrelevant to me, but some like it)
3) No flash memory slot
4) Verizon phone. Bootloader can be unlocked for $25 but push updates are slow (and probably will stop at Marshmallow, or might even stop with current Lollipop).
5) Rear facing speaker. Not the loudest speaker on the planet.
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the turbo has front facing speakers. they are at the top by the earpiece. They are also stereo speakers, but being so close together you don't really get a true stereo effect from them
single speaker, not stereo
Nitefire77 said:
the turbo has front facing speakers. they are at the top by the earpiece. They are also stereo speakers, but being so close together you don't really get a true stereo effect from them
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While yes, the QUARK has front facing SPEAKER -- it's a single speaker port, and not stereo.
One of the flaws of the Quark is Motorola did NOT put the same specs into they did the Shamu (Moto Nexus 6) -- like rear camera OIS and stereo speakers.
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Motorola Droid Turbo Teardown
https://teardowns.abiresearch.com/teardowns/pe_motorolateardown-droid-turbo-xt1254-32/#features
Speaker: Mono
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Droid Turbo by Motorola (Verizon Wireless)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2471226,00.asp
Above the display is a single speaker port that, in side-by-side tests, sounds indistinguishable from the Moto X's speaker
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Moto X (2014) vs. Droid Turbo: Up close
http://newatlas.com/moto-x-vs-droid-turbo-hands-on/35192/
The larger, single front speaker on the Moto X delivers slightly better audio than the single front speaker on the Droid Turbo does.
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In fact in comparing the Droid Turbo to the HTC 8, this magazine also said one of the flaws was the SINGLE SPEAKER, compared to the stereo speakers of the HTC 8:
Phone Comparisons: Motorola DROID Turbo vs HTC One M8
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/phone-comparisons-motorola-turbo-vs-htc-one-m8.html
The Droid Turbo has a large, single speaker on the front of the device
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This is from 2014 in this very forum:
speaker Issue
4th November 2014, 09:10 AM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/speaker-issue-t2927970
Javiggan69 said:
Can someone check to see when playing music through your speaker if it comes out through both sides or just the left side. If you notice the speaker has two openings on each side. I assume that sound should come out from both sides. Cover the left side and let me know what happens.
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coreywallen said:
turbo has a mono speaker and sound only coming from one side is intended.
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Even the successor Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force) has only ONE speaker, even though it has two speakers ports. On the Droid Turbo2/Moto X Force, it's the left port that is fake. Only the right port works -- the mono speaker is behind it.
THIS was very silly. Just give us stereo speakers! Why pretend? Like we're not going to find out?
Neither the 2014 Droid Turbo nor the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 have stereo speakers -- yet the Moto Nexus 6 DOES have stereo speaker, so we know Motorola knows how to do it!
Can anybody pointout which is the best droid turbo model to buy for unlocking bootloader or preunlocked so twrp can be used n for root n xposed modules ...also being about in KT,LP,MM
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Can anybody point out which is the best droid turbo model to buy for unlocking bootloader or preunlocked so twrp can be used n for root n xposed modules ...also being about in KT,LP,MM
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I assume you are on Verizon? There are other Quark phones besides the Droid Turbo XT1254. Verizon's model is the Droid Turbo XT1254. There's also an identical phone sold by regional CDMA/LTE carriers called the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. Same radio bands, same FCC ID, runs on Verizon with Verizon SIM card just like a non-Verizon Moto Nexus 6. Easily unlocked bootloader for free, via code from Motorola. It's the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo. But only comes in 32GB variant.
There's also the "international" Moto Turbo XT1225 /Moto Maxx XT1225 with LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- if you don't need Verizon bands. 64GB only. I own three and run two of them on AT&T. (3rd one is backup, still in the box) Easily unlocked bootloader for free, via code from Motorola.
If you do need Verzion bands, then stick with either the Droid Turbo XT1254 or U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250.
For the Droid Turbo XT1254, you want SUTL-44 firmware or lower. If lower, you can update to SUTL-44. Sunshine bootloader unlock ($25) only works on SUTL-44 (Lollipop). If it's updated to SUTL-49 (or higher, for people in the future reading this), you are out of luck. Droid Turbo XT1254 comes in 32GB/64GB variants. Once you unlock the bootloader with Sunshine (on SUTL-44), then you can root, install TWRP, xposed, etc.
Only the Droid Turbo XT1254 needs Sunshine to unlock the bootloader and root. The other Quarks are easy to unlock for free.
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I assume you are on Verizon? There are other Quark phones besides the Droid Turbo XT1254. Verizon's model is the Droid Turbo XT1254. There's also an identical phone sold by regional CDMA/LTE carriers called the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. Same radio bands, same FCC ID, runs on Verizon with Verizon SIM card just like a non-Verizon Moto Nexus 6. Easily unlocked bootloader for free, via code from Motorola. It's the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo. But only comes in 32GB variant.
There's also the "international" Moto Turbo XT1225 /Moto Maxx XT1225 with LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- if you don't need Verizon bands. 64GB only. I own three and run two of them on AT&T. (3rd one is backup, still in the box) Easily unlocked bootloader for free, via code from Motorola.
If you do need Verzion bands, then stick with either the Droid Turbo XT1254 or U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250.
For the Droid Turbo XT1254, you want SUTL-44 firmware or lower. If lower, you can update to SUTL-44. Sunshine bootloader unlock ($25) only works on SUTL-44 (Lollipop). If it's updated to SUTL-49 (or higher, for people in the future reading this), you are out of luck. Droid Turbo XT1254 comes in 32GB/64GB variants. Once you unlock the bootloader with Sunshine (on SUTL-44), then you can root, install TWRP, xposed, etc.
Only the Droid Turbo XT1254 needs Sunshine to unlock the bootloader and root. The other Quarks are easy to unlock for free.
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So all models of droid turbo are unlockable unless they r in MM SUTL -49 ...only xti254 is paid unlockable n others are free ? Is there no unlock bootloader under developer mode ? Or like LG via bootkey ? What is this via code method ?? I prefer to be on international or xti254... Im on tmobile..
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I prefer to be on international or xti254... Im on tmobile..
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See, on T-mobile you do NOT need CDMA and you do NOT need LTE band 13. You don't need the Droid Turbo, you can easily use the XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx, clone of the Droid Turbo XT1254) or the XT1225 Moto Turbo/"international" Moto Maxx.
The XT1225 has more HSPA bands, more LTE bands, but does not have CDMA (which you do not need).
Most of the Quarks are called "Moto Maxx". Verizon calls theirs "Droid Turbo". In India, Motorola used "Moto Turbo". Yeah, it can be confusing.
The "Droid Turbo" was NOT NOT NOT an exclusive to Verizon in any way. The exact same phone was sold by other carriers here in the U.S. and around the world. Just like an LG G4 is sold to other carriers here and around the world. The "Droid" name was "exclusive" (and means nothing), the device was not exclusive. The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 has the exact same FCC ID, exact same radio bands as the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
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So all models of droid turbo are unlockable unless they r in MM SUTL -49 ...only xti254 is paid unlockable n others are free ? Is there no unlock bootloader under developer mode ? Or like LG via bootkey ? What is this via code method ?? I prefer to be on international or xti254... Im on tmobile..
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No, there's no unlock bootloader in developer mode on the Droid Turbo XT1254. That's just to taunt you.
But all QUARK models are unlockable for FREE -- except for the Droid Turbo XT1254. Think of Quark (the model name) like an "LG G4" -- a device sold to different carriers all over the world, and some have different radio bands.
The Droid Turbo XT1254 is Verizon's name for their Quark. In India it was Moto Turbo XT1225. In other parts of the world, " Moto Maxx". SAME device, just different radio bands.
In the U.S. the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 has the same radio bands, same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254. It's the same, identical CLONE of the XT1254 and has easily unlocked bootloader (for FREE, through code given on Motorola.com) and will run on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card.
You acknowledge you give up your warranty, and Motorola gives you the code which will unlock your bootloader. (Again, only for the XT1225 and XT1250 -- NOT for the Droid Turbo, because Verizon demands Motorola keep the bootloader locked. Makes no sense.)
All the Quarks except for the XT1254 Droid Turbo can be unlocked for free via Motorola. Verizon made Motorola lock down their Quark.
The only way to unlock the bootloader on the Droid Turbo is an exploit Sunshine found which ONLY works on Verizon SUTL-44 firmware. If you find an XT1254 lower than that, you can carefully flash to SUTL-44, but do not let it update past that. IF you the XT1254 is already on SUTL-49 (which was pushed out in May 2016 to block that exploit), you are out of luck.
"SUTL" is Verizon firmware. The other Quarks do not use that nomenclature.
The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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for those who NEED CDMA, NEED LTE band 13, NEED Verizon...
"dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/dev-version-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3391792
otherwise the XT1225 (64GB) is the better phone for most people not on Verizon.
I've written about all this before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66972299&postcount=31
Same information, just written slightly differently, maybe easier to understand.
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See, on T-mobile you do NOT need CDMA and you do NOT need LTE band 13. You don't need the Droid Turbo, you can easily use the XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx, clone of the Droid Turbo XT1254) or the XT1225 Moto Turbo/"international" Moto Maxx.
The XT1225 has more HSPA bands, more LTE bands, but does not have CDMA (which you do not need).
Most of the Quarks are called "Moto Maxx". Verizon calls theirs "Droid Turbo". In India, Motorola used "Moto Turbo". Yeah, it can be confusing.
The "Droid Turbo" was NOT NOT NOT an exclusive to Verizon in any way. The exact same phone was sold by other carriers here in the U.S. and around the world. Just like an LG G4 is sold to other carriers here and around the world. The "Droid" name was "exclusive" (and means nothing), the device was not exclusive. The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 has the exact same FCC ID, exact same radio bands as the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
No, there's no unlock bootloader in developer mode on the Droid Turbo XT1254. That's just to taunt you.
But all QUARK models are unlockable for FREE -- except for the Droid Turbo XT1254. Think of Quark (the model name) like an "LG G4" -- a device sold to different carriers all over the world, and some have different radio bands.
The Droid Turbo XT1254 is Verizon's name for their Quark. In India it was Moto Turbo XT1225. In other parts of the world, " Moto Maxx". SAME device, just different radio bands.
In the U.S. the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 has the same radio bands, same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo XT1254. It's the same, identical CLONE of the XT1254 and has easily unlocked bootloader (for FREE, though code given on Motorola.com) and will run on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card.
All the Quarks except for the XT1254 Droid Turbo can be unlocked for free via Motorola. Verizon made Motorola lock down their Quark.
The only way to unlock the bootloader on the Droid Turbo is an exploit Sunshine found which ONLY works on Verizon SUTL-44 firmware. If you find an XT1254 lower than that, you can carefully flash to SUTL-44, but do not let it update past that. IF you the XT1254 is already on SUTL-49 (which was pushed out in May 2016 to block that exploit), you are out of luck.
"SUTL" is Verizon firmware. The other Quarks do not use that nomenclature.
The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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for those who NEED CDMA, NEED LTE band 13, NEED Verizon...
"dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/dev-version-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3391792
otherwise the XT1225 (64GB) is the better phone for most people not on Verizon.
I've written about all this before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66972299&postcount=31
Same information, just written slightly differently, maybe easier to understand.
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Thanks so much for detailed explanation
Hey,
I'm planning on getting an XT1254 Turbo. I'm coming from a Moto X 2014. Reasons are mostly battery life.
I've only found the XT1254 and XT1250 that are still selling online. I would prefer to get the .54 as I'd like the extra storage. As far as I read over here, the XT1254 is the Verizon version, XT1250 the Verizon Unlocked GSM version, and then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched, so I'm kinda set with the XT1254 which would be the Verizon version.
My carrier is Vodafone, in Europe.
Would I encounter any particular problems as far as carrier compatibility, GSM/LTE bands and such? Will it work on LTE on either of the available bands?
Would I be better off using the XT1250?
Thanks!
LE: All's good. See thread and last post.
inkmars said:
Hey,
I'm planning on getting an XT1254 Turbo. I'm coming from a Moto X 2014. Reasons are mostly battery life.
I've only found the XT1254 and XT1250 that are still selling online. I would prefer to get the .54 as I'd like the extra storage. As far as I read over here, the XT1254 is the Verizon version, XT1250 the Verizon Unlocked GSM version, and then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched, so I'm kinda set with the XT1254 which would be the Verizon version.
My carrier is Vodafone, in Europe.
Would I encounter any particular problems as far as carrier compatibility, GSM/LTE bands and such? Will it work on LTE on either of the available bands?
Would I be better off using the XT1250?
Thanks!
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XT1254 = XT1250. They have identical hardware. The only difference is software. The XT1250 is not a Verizon phone.
XT1254: Officially locked bootloader (unlockable via Sunshine for a fee), unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
XT1250: Officially unlockable bootloader, unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
As for band compatibility, your best bet would be to look up the bands your carrier uses and the bands that the phone you're considering is capable of receiving. However, just for some anecdotal evidence, I took my XT1254 to Germany, Sweden and Czechia using a German SIM card that I bought, and the phone worked perfectly in all of those places.
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XT1254 = XT1250. They have identical hardware. The only difference is software. The XT1250 is not a Verizon phone.
XT1254: Officially locked bootloader (unlockable via Sunshine for a fee), unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
XT1250: Officially unlockable bootloader, unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
As for band compatibility, your best bet would be to look up the bands your carrier uses and the bands that the phone you're considering is capable of receiving. However, just for some anecdotal evidence, I took my XT1254 to Germany, Sweden and Czechia using a German SIM card that I bought, and the phone worked perfectly in all of those places.
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Also for the op...
The XT1254 and XT1250 bands are the same. I've posted them many times. LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. Plus some HSPA (not as many as the XT1225), and CDMA.
XT1250 is 32GB only.
XT1254 is 32GB and some 64GB.
XT1225 is 64GB only.
If you're getting the XT1254 for additional storage, double check it's a 64GB model. Most are not.
Really appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
On a side note, does anyone know any other way of getting an XT1225 apart from ebay/amazon? I've also tried google searches; ended up on other selling platform sites but still nothing. Not even in used state.
Also, if it helps, I have a 64 GB XT1254. On the phone it says model: XT1254, type: M0DFE. That type number might help you distinguish between the 32 and 64GB models, but I don't know that for sure.
inkmars said:
Really appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
On a side note, does anyone know any other way of getting an XT1225 apart from ebay/amazon? I've also tried google searches; ended up on other selling platform sites but still nothing. Not even in used state.
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https://swappa.com/buy/moto-maxx-unlocked
There's a few used ones on here.
Never mind. I misread the site.
TheSt33v said:
https://swappa.com/buy/moto-maxx-unlocked
There's a few used ones on here.
Never mind. I misread the site.
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I wish. But I appreciate it
Just out of curiosity, why are you set on the Turbo/Maxx? There are plenty of better options out there.
PMed as to not clutter the thread
Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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He's wrong. No Verizon postpaid LTE phones have been carrier locked since 2012 FCC agreement.
I can show you YouTube videos and an XDA thread from November 2014 (just after release) showing Droid Turbo running on AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint. The Droid Turbo is not and has never been carrier locked.
No Verizon postpaid LTE phones are carrier locked (since 2012), or Verizon would have to pay hefty fines.
There's a lot of ignorance about carrier locked and bootloader lock. Many people don't know the difference. Plus Verizon infamously used to carrier lock their contract/postpaid phones (but haven't for about 5 years).
And yes, if you search the internet you will find a lot of those ignorant comments. Even here on XDA we had to educate people.
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he's wrong. No Verizon postpaid LTE phones have been carrier locked since 2012 FCC agreement.
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Interesting.
Well, he doesn't seem sure if it's locked or not. I asked him to head over to Verizon and see if it's locked and, if that's the case, to tell me the unlock-fee. He just said that he's not familiar with the process and that he won't do it. As for me, I probably won't be able to do anything with the unlocking process since I'm in Europe. He's in the US.
I'm committed to buying it but If all fails and it's indeed locked, are my hands tied or am I able to do something from my end when it arrives?
Thanks again.
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Interesting.
Well, he doesn't seem sure if it's locked or not. I asked him to head over to Verizon and see if it's locked and, if that's the case, to tell me the unlock-fee. He just said that he's not familiar with the process and that he won't do it. As for me, I probably won't be able to do anything with the unlocking process since I'm in Europe. He's in the US.
I'm committed to buying it but If all fails and it's indeed locked, are my hands tied or am I able to do something from my end when it arrives?
Thanks again.
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My comments stand. Search here on XDA for Droid Turbo on other carriers. I'll try to find a post.
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Here you go:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/psa-droid-turbo-att-network-t3448833/page1
I know that post talks about AT&T a lot, but the point is the Droid Turbo has NEVER been carrier locked. But a lot of people think Verizon still does that. They're not allowed to, as a specific condition for having access to more LTE spectrum.
I didn't even think it was possible, so it didn't cross my mind to search for it. My bad!
Thanks for all the info!
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Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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There is no such thing as a carrier locked XT1254. Verizon is legally required to keep them carrier unlocked per an agreement they have with the FCC, and I'm pretty sure that asshole who runs the FCC hasn't gotten around to dismantling that requirement yet.
EDIT: Oops, missed a whole page of discussion. Ignore me.
Just bought the XT1254 that I mentioned earlier. Will do a follow-up when it's here and all's good. Thank you everyone.
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then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched
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This was why I bought my third XT1225 new in the box back in early 2016 -- as a backup phone, just so something like this wouldn't happen. I bought it while there was still a little supply available on eBay.
My wife and I have the other two as daily phones.
That third phone still new in the box. Whenever I decide to sell it, someone will be very lucky.
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This was why I bought my third XT1225 new in the box back in early 2016 -- as a backup phone, just so something like this wouldn't happen. I bought it while there was still a little supply available on eBay.
My wife and I have the other two as daily phones.
That third phone still new in the box. Whenever I decide to sell it, someone will be very lucky.
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Yeah I realized I woke up too late to get a .25 or even .54s that are new in the box. Got the 2014 X back in 2015...time flew fast.
I would I'm planning on getting a 2nd one at some point soon...and the xt1225 would be better Promise I'd take care of it as if it was my baby.
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1st XT1254 arrived yesterday with 5.1 official. Will probably settle in a few days, then take the OTA to MM since I heard there are some battery improvements there too so it won't hurt. Soon after I'll Sunshine it and move on to cr most probably.
Factory reset it and popped in my Vodafone SIM from my Moto X2 and after a few seconds I got 4G without any settings changes on my end. 'Global' was already set by default so that was probably why it worked straight away.
Googled beforehand that Vodafone uses Band 3 and 20 here. Out of the ones that the XT1254 supports, only Band 3 is a match. So far I can't seem to notice any drawbacks from having only one out of two available 4G Bands, so all's good.
I ordered a 2nd XT1254 soon after the first one as I found even a better price and at 64GB instead of 32GB. This one will arrive this Tuesday and I'm optimistic it will be smooth sailing regarding Carrier/4G compatibility like with the 1st Droid.
Just out of curiosity I went into SIM Status to check the signal strength and compare it to my Moto X2 which has an amazing coverage. They're both sitting at -96.
So for anyone having doubts about Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 working to its fullest in Europe or anywhere else besides The U.S, just check your Carrier's supported 3G/4G bands and see if you have any match.
Any SIM card other than Verizon will work just as well as with a Verizon one. Only thing that you'll get is a notification every time you reboot the phone stating that the inserted SIM is not from Verizon. Dismiss and get going.
One other thing you'll want to check if you have issues calling someone is to head over in to the Dialer Settings and search for that one thing that will add prefix to the phone number (I forgot its name, but you'll find it easily). Even if you set the correct country you're in, you still might have issues calling. Just disable it so that it won't add any prefixes and you're good to go.
Thanks a lot @ChazzMatt and @TheSt33v for all the help.
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I ordered a 2nd XT1254 soon after the first one as I found even a better price and at 64GB instead of 32GB. This one will arrive this Tuesday and I'm optimistic it will be smooth sailing regarding Carrier/4G compatibility like with the 1st Droid.
Any SIM card other than Verizon will work just as well as with a Verizon one. Only thing that you'll get is a notification every time you reboot the phone stating that the inserted SIM is not from Verizon. Dismiss and get going.
Soon after I'll Sunshine it and move on to cr most probably.
Thanks a lot @ChazzMatt and @TheSt33v for all the help.
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Glad to be of help!
You'll like 64GB much better. Besides extra storage, all the 64GB Quarks have ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath, not just the kevlar backing.
I'm pretty sure installing custom ROM will take care of the Verizon annoyance SIM card notification.