So I started to notice about three days ago that for some odd reason it takes longer to charge.. On average it used to take about 2 hours to charge full from 0% now it can take up to 8 hours on the original Motorola quick charge or any quick charger 2.0
I already did a factory reset and started fresh then flashed the google factory images and completely wiped my nexus 6 but nothing helped. Can someone please help out as to why and how to fix it. Thank you!!!
r3dp0is0n2012 said:
So I started to notice about three days ago that for some odd reason it takes longer to charge.. On average it used to take about 2 hours to charge full from 0% now it can take up to 8 hours on the original Motorola quick charge or any quick charger 2.0
I already did a factory reset and started fresh then flashed the google factory images and completely wiped my nexus 6 but nothing helped. Can someone please help out as to why and how to fix it. Thank you!!!
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Try different cables as well as chargers? Install "Ampere" and see what mA you're charging at
@rootSU Yes I tried different cables. It also happen in my truck when using a new Qualcomm certified 2.0 quick charge..
r3dp0is0n2012 said:
@rootSU Yes I tried different cables. It also happen in my truck when using a new Qualcomm certified 2.0 quick charge..
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Theres a possibility it's hardware at your device side. Is it rooted / customised in anyway?
Definitely check out "Ampere" here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
I get around 2000mA showing when I'm on my Quick Charge, with any decent cable.
@rootSU I will check on that and get back to you thank you! Is the latest T-Mobile factory image posted in google page with WiFi calling yesterday but I did root it.
rootSU said:
Theres a possibility it's hardware at your device side. Is it rooted / customised in anyway?
Definitely check out "Ampere" here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
I get around 2000mA showing when I'm on my Quick Charge, with any decent cable.
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Mine too at first but then it changes down to almost 300ma and it fluctuates...
r3dp0is0n2012 said:
Mine too at first but then it changes down to almost 300ma and it fluctuates...
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At what %?
rootSU said:
At what %?
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After 5 minutes or charging 3% of battery....
r3dp0is0n2012 said:
After 5 minutes or charging 3% of battery....
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I would consider flashing back to stock (to wipe root cleanly) and contact support in case it is a hardware issue. Dodgy pin in the port maybe?!
rootSU said:
Try different cables as well as chargers? Install "Ampere" and see what mA you're charging at
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This thread must surely be a sticky thread for long lasting information.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much for the "Ampere' suggestion. My MotoG factory default charger was giving only 10mA for some reason. Looked like it got corrupted. I thought battery was draining quickly due to apps and greenified some apps initially
Quite surprisingly battery savers were not giving this information. Even apps like cpuz were just telling charging or discharging & 3.76 mv or 3760 v which was not of much use.
I was thinking MotoG must be replaced with new one. This suggestion has changed my view entirely.
2 Questions, what is the ideal charging mA for moto G gen 1?
How to assess the health of our phone?
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vikraminside said:
This thread must surely be a sticky thread for long lasting information.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much for the "Ampere' suggestion. My MotoG factory default charger was giving only 10mA for some reason. Looked like it got corrupted. I thought battery was draining quickly due to apps and greenified some apps initially
Quite surprisingly battery savers were not giving this information. Even apps like cpuz were just telling charging or discharging & 3.76 mv or 3760 v which was not of much use.
I was thinking MotoG must be replaced with new one. This suggestion has changed my view entirely.
2 Questions, what is the ideal charging mA for moto G gen 1?
How to assess the health of our phone?
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Im not sure. A lot of phones are 1.2A, or 1.5. The nexus 6 is 2A
vikraminside said:
This thread must surely be a sticky thread for long lasting information.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much for the "Ampere' suggestion. My MotoG factory default charger was giving only 10mA for some reason. Looked like it got corrupted. I thought battery was draining quickly due to apps and greenified some apps initially
Quite surprisingly battery savers were not giving this information. Even apps like cpuz were just telling charging or discharging & 3.76 mv or 3760 v which was not of much use.
I was thinking MotoG must be replaced with new one. This suggestion has changed my view entirely.
2 Questions, what is the ideal charging mA for moto G gen 1?
How to assess the health of our phone?
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try current widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
simms22 said:
try current widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
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No, its trash. Hasn't been accurate for me since 2010. Try ampere. You'll see why I'm recommending it here.
rootSU said:
No, its trash. Hasn't been accurate for me since 2010. Try ampere. You'll see why I'm recommending it here.
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ive been using it for the past 2 years, its accurate here. anyways, I'll check out ampere as well
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ive been using it for the past 2 years, its accurate here. anyways, I'll check out ampere as well
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It seems to like showing input - output for me. I just can't trust it.
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It seems to like showing input - output for me. I just can't trust it.
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hmm.. I dont think ampere has what I use. can't find it at least. I use current widget to see how much current is going into the device when charging, or going out when not charging. and only for that(I set up the widget for this only).
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hmm.. I dont think ampere has what I use. can't find it at least. I use current widget to see how much current is going into the device when charging, or going out when not charging. and only for that(I set up the widget for this only).
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That's exactly what ampere is for. That's all its for.
Or do you mean there's no widget?
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That's exactly what ampere is for. That's all its for.
Or do you mean there's no widget?
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well.. my phone was on the charger, at 100%. and ampere said so. but current widget still showed that some current was going in, 55mA worth. and itll show 0mA when it actually finishes charging. I couldn't find anything similar in ampere. or maybe I just missed it? btw, free version, not pay.
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well.. my phone was on the charger, at 100%. and ampere said so. but current widget still showed that some current was going in, 55mA worth. and itll show 0mA when it actually finishes charging. I couldn't find anything similar in ampere. or maybe I just missed it? btw, free version, not pay.
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If you watch ampere closely, youll see the phone cuts the charge off and then starts it again constantly whilst at "100%"
I've got a video somewhere, hang on...
Edit - actually I'm talking about wireless charging.
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If you watch ampere closely, youll see the phone cuts the charge off and then starts it again constantly whilst at "100%"
I've got a video somewhere, hang on...
Edit - actually I'm talking about wireless charging.
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I see you edited it.. if I use it while its plugged in, itll get to 0, and let in 4-5mA every minute or so. if I dont use it, it stays at 0mA until I unplug it.
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I bought a new original samsung battery last week......... were the production date iz give as 20 feb 2013...............
The problem is when i charge ......... it takes a long time to charge 100%............
very slow in charging ................. it takes about 3 :30 hours to charge 75 to 80% .............
some one plz help!!!
sry fr my english
I made a magically remote analysis. Result: If you think this is not ok - bring back the battery to the shop where you bought it. What other help could there be from members here?
ThaiDai said:
I made a magically remote analysis. Result: If you think this is not ok - bring back the battery to the shop where you bought it. What other help could there be from members here?
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No other solution bro... ?
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No other solution bro... ?
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I just read some of your old posts/threads: now I think you have a "battery charges slow"-tick.
Sorry, no help possible from my side.
samsung galaxy note gt n7000
saadthameem1996 said:
No other solution bro... ?
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A new battery from less than 10% to 100% takes 3 to 4hrs. I hope you have not purchased higher mAh batteries. Higher the scale longer the time initially till some frequent recharging and charging sets it in place. Also try a shut down of your device and charge to figure out how much time it takes. Try some battery diags apps...it will show the voltage...if your voltage is less than 2V.....sure your battery has to be replaced.
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A new battery from less than 10% to 100% takes 3 to 4hrs. I hope you have not purchased higher mAh batteries. Higher the scale longer the time initially till some frequent recharging and charging sets it in place. Also try a shut down of your device and charge to figure out how much time it takes. Try some battery diags apps...it will show the voltage...if your voltage is less than 2V.....sure your battery has to be replaced.
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Thanks for replying
it is 2500mAh.............
.These r some screen shots u hve taken with some apps...
sorry for my english
samsung galaxy note gt n7000
saadthameem1996 said:
Thanks for replying
it is 2500mAh.............
.These r some screen shots u hve taken with some apps...
sorry for my english
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Try this application as i am not able to see the voltage consumed.... Battery Indicator..... let me know the voltage and if possible add a screenshot.
satven21 said:
Try this application as i am not able to see the voltage consumed.... Battery Indicator..... let me know the voltage and if possible add a screenshot.
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Here it is............ its written 3852mV
samsung galaxy note gt n7000
saadthameem1996 said:
Here it is............ its written 3852mV
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I dont see any issues with battery. Two thing:
1. Switch off the phone, charge, check how much time it takes. My phone as mentioned earlier takes 3 hrs to a 100%.
2. ensure that Wifi and data are stopped.
3. While charging in on state dont use the phone - also monitor the temperature- if its getting beyond 61degrees switch off the phone and give some time and then recharge.
Your phone has a new battery so 4 to 6 hrs is company recommended charging. So I dont see any issues at this moment.
Hope it helps, let me know.
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I dont see any issues with battery. Two thing:
1. Switch off the phone, charge, check how much time it takes. My phone as mentioned earlier takes 3 hrs to a 100%.
2. ensure that Wifi and data are stopped.
3. While charging in on state dont use the phone - also monitor the temperature- if its getting beyond 61degrees switch off the phone and give some time and then recharge.
Your phone has a new battery so 4 to 6 hrs is company recommended charging. So I dont see any issues at this moment.
Hope it helps, let me know.
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Thanks For the info. Bro......... i'll let u know the details tomorrow...
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I dont see any issues with battery. Two thing:
1. Switch off the phone, charge, check how much time it takes. My phone as mentioned earlier takes 3 hrs to a 100%.
2. ensure that Wifi and data are stopped.
3. While charging in on state dont use the phone - also monitor the temperature- if its getting beyond 61degrees switch off the phone and give some time and then recharge.
Your phone has a new battery so 4 to 6 hrs is company recommended charging. So I dont see any issues at this moment.
Hope it helps, let me know.
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Bro ..... it takes about 5 hrs....
well you may want to see is the charger plug is properly inserted into the socket. a loose contact does affect the charging time largely. anyway from the above posts there isn't any problem with your battery. I srtonglt recommend you to plug the charger properly and also check for proper connection in the charger usb contact. let me know if that helped
M pretty sure that it is the problem of my charger .......
As when i connected my note to a pc with bb data cable ..... my note gets charged very fast ...... btw thanks bro...
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The title says it,don't tell me somethin like "look at the top right of your screen" cause I offline charge it. Now I turn off the phone,plugged in the charger,yay its charging. 5 hours later I go check on da phone,WTF? It doesn't say anything,the battery logo with the lighting icon is still da same! So how can you tell if its fully charged? Cause It never says anything. And don't tell me to turn it on and see if its a 100%.
Now that's pretty odd. Hmm, maybe its nothing. Try this,if you are running on an old firmware install the latest from the update centre,if you already are using the latest firmware try resetting it,not just the settings but with the data being wiped as well.
Michealtbh said:
Now that's pretty odd. Hmm, maybe its nothing. Try this,if you are running on an old firmware install the latest from the update centre,if you already are using the latest firmware try resetting it,not just the settings but with the data being wiped as well.
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Oh yeah,I did that,it didn't fixed it though,thank you for your suggestion. Ain't gonna click tha Thanks Button though.
When charging is complete phone stops to charge. And when battery drains some juice it starts to charge again
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Daryll99 said:
Oh yeah,I did that,it didn't fixed it though,thank you for your suggestion. Ain't gonna click tha Thanks Button though.
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LOL
when the led turn green that means it's fully charged(90% and above).
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gm007 said:
LOL
when the led turn green that means it's fully charged(90% and above).
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I know that. So How will I know if its a 100?
Daryll99 said:
I know that. So How will I know if its a 100?
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Why do you turn your phone off?
DoubleYouPee said:
Why do you turn your phone off?
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Cause if you charge your phone while its off,its a thorugh charge. If its own it won't be fully charge,its resources are still used. I called Sony and asked them about it,also years back when I owned a lg,nokia and samsung device. They all said the same charging your phone while its off is the best thing,cause its a thorough charge.
Daryll99 said:
Cause if you charge your phone while its off,its a thorugh charge. If its own it won't be fully charge,its resources are still used. I called Sony and asked them about it,also years back when I owned a lg,nokia and samsung device. They all said the same charging your phone while its off is the best thing,cause its a thorough charge.
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Yeh and that's gonna save you what.. 1% better battery life over 2 years? And you gotta turn off/on your phone every night/morning.
With idle usage of XZ and 1500mAh charger it will charge 100% no problem
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I know that. So How will I know if its a 100?
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When the green light lit it's on 90% so wait another 15 minutes and i can give you guaranty that's i should be at 100%
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Daryll99 said:
Cause if you charge your phone while its off,its a thorugh charge. If its own it won't be fully charge,its resources are still used. I called Sony and asked them about it,also years back when I owned a lg,nokia and samsung device. They all said the same charging your phone while its off is the best thing,cause its a thorough charge.
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Nonsense. It charges just fine whether it's on or off.
Michealtbh said:
Nonsense. It charges just fine whether it's on or off.
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Talk about paranoia, just use it normally, don't turn it off, unless you're planning to keep the phone for the next 10 years. It _might_ have made a difference in the past with the _old_ batteries, but with LiPo it makes little difference.
Safe yourself the trouble.
I thought the phone has a Li-Ion not Li-Po.
alias_neo said:
Talk about paranoia, just use it normally, don't turn it off, unless you're planning to keep the phone for the next 10 years. It _might_ have made a difference in the past with the _old_ batteries, but with LiPo it makes little difference.
Safe yourself the trouble.
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Remember your talking to the guy that thinks you can fix red water detection strips via firmware flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307808 .
When you guys gonna stop talking bout the water strip thing? Okay so you sayin its useless if its a Li-Ion battery right? Provide me some more details please, chemically or scientifically.
Daryll99 said:
When gonna stop talking bout the water strip thing?
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Haha never bro, you are an interwebs legend now... Only way people will forget is if you create another account without the signature on the bottom that gives you away. :good:
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Haha never bro, you are an interwebs legend now... Only way people will forget is if you create another account without the signature on the bottom that gives you away. :good:
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Oh well,it ain't bad. Now the goddamn battery?
Daryll99 said:
Oh well,it ain't bad. Now the goddamn battery?
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There is no way of telling short of changing the way the notification light works for charging and I wouldn't even know where to start with that. Just leave it on, the XZ charges (with official charger) in like under 2 hours anyway, you're only making things difficult for yourself.
Rekoil said:
There is no way of telling short of changing the way the notification light works for charging and I wouldn't even know where to start with that. Just leave it on, the XZ charges (with official charger) in like under 2 hours anyway, you're only making things difficult for yourself.
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I'm goin to have to give a feedback to Sony for this.
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I thought the phone has a Li-Ion not Li-Po.
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Xperia Z has Li-Po. Li-Po is a specific type of Li-ion.
I have not seen anyone posted about this so I'm raising one. Is there any kernel/app that has charging limit feature? What I meant about charging limit is when the battery reach a certain % i.e 60%, it will stop charging the battery and will only supply current to keep the phone going. There are quite a few laptops came with this feature like Sony and Lenovo. The purpose of this? To prolong the battery's life. You can read more about this here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
um i dont think so
idk abt any such kernels but definitely no such apps. But sammy says a full charge cycle from around 5 to 100% would help a lot.
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I have not seen anyone posted about this so I'm raising one. Is there any kernel/app that has charging limit feature? What I meant about charging limit is when the battery reach a certain % i.e 60%, it will stop charging the battery and will only supply current to keep the phone going. There are quite a few laptops came with this feature like Sony and Lenovo. The purpose of this? To prolong the battery's life. You can read more about this here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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I know its not really a solution, but I do have an idea for you.
Get a digital outlet timer... figure out how long it takes to charge your note...(i.e., lets say 4 hours full charge)
set a pre-programed time cycle. when you plug the phone in, run the time cycle, and it will shut off when done...
Just an idea... maybe not a good one, but it just popped into my head
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I know its not really a solution, but I do have an idea for you.
Get a digital outlet timer... figure out how long it takes to charge your note...(i.e., lets say 4 hours full charge)
set a pre-programed time cycle. when you plug the phone in, run the time cycle, and it will shut off when done...
Just an idea... maybe not a good one, but it just popped into my head
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Didn't thought of that. Not really innovative , but still gets the job done.
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Didn't thought of that. Not really innovative , but still gets the job done.
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I didn't realize I claimed it to be some amazingly innovative idea... How about just saying thanks for the input instead of insulting me
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The only solution i've found to this is to simply connect your phone to an usb charger... then run: shutdown -s -f -t 3600
I have try with three chargers and 1 powerbank. When i use quickcharge the current measured in Ampere is not steady, it can go from 800mah to 3400mah and this is not good at all for the battery. Can someone check if they are having the same problem?
Thank you in advance!
Today i was charging my device witv a quicharge powerbank and it doesn't quickcharge at all and charge until 80%, and stop charging and start heating bad, i was slepping and wake up because of the heat. Is a problem with my device or it is common?
use original charger. i dont face any of these issues
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use original charger. i dont face any of these issues
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As i said i have try with a lot or charger, the original one included. Have you monitored the current? Also sometines it start conecting and disconecting or it get stuck at 80% and start heating up. It seems it only happen with quickcharge, if i use a normal one i don't have this problem.
Thank you very much for your help!
There is no one kind enougth to download ampere and test this???. It can take at most 5 minutes....
I tested and it goes from 1660 mA to 4050mA, the most time it spends on 3200-3600mA
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I tested and it goes from 1660 mA to 4050mA, the most time it spends on 3200-3600mA
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Thank you very much! I really apreciate this. Now i know it is not a problem with my phone but a bug from the software. Can i ask wich charger did you use?
Original charger that came with the phone
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The phone doesn't charge in full throttle while the display is turned on. So most of the time i charge with the display off. Keep it on and it will switch to 500 mah. Or max I have got with original charger and cable is 2500 mah
Tommylee567 said:
The phone doesn't charge in full throttle while the display is turned on. So most of the time i charge with the display off. Keep it on and it will switch to 500 mah. Or max I have got with original charger and cable is 2500 mah
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The problem is not that, the problem is that it fluctuates heavy, like in 10 seconds it goes up and down and it is not temperature related. With the screen turned off is the same, you can check. Also with some charges it doesn't even charge or stop charging from no where. It isn't ok by any means. Sometimes it even stop charing at 80% at stay heating up!
Can you confirm with ampere is yours is fluctuating like that too??? It will be nice to confirm that is in all the models.
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The problem is not that, the problem is that it fluctuates heavy, like in 10 seconds it goes up and down and it is not temperature related. With the screen turned off is the same, you can check. Also with some charges it doesn't even charge or stop charging from no where. It isn't ok by any means. Sometimes it even stop charing at 80% at stay heating up!
Can you confirm with ampere is yours is fluctuating like that too??? It will be nice to confirm that is in all the models.
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Oh like that, ok my phone is at 3%, let it die after some time then i will charge and see with Ampere
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Ok i have done a recording of the Ampere charging
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FhitxyAGuCHgDggw7
Added a pic when battery at 67%, 88% and 90%
At 100% it is 200 mah charging. Which should not at all
Tommylee567 said:
Oh like that, ok my phone is at 3%, let it die after some time then i will charge and see with Ampere
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Ok i have done a recording of the Ampere charging
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FhitxyAGuCHgDggw7
Added a pic when battery at 67%, 88% and 90%
At 100% it is 200 mah charging. Which should not at all
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Thank you very very very much. In your phone the current fluctuates but not that heavy, i will say that it is inside the normal parameters, like from 2900-3050. Anyway it should be able to charge a little more, like 3400mah. The problem at 95% is present at mine too. It charges really slow but it is normal, for security reasons.
So now i don't know, maybe my phone charging circuit is ****ed up or something .
It just fluctuates little that's not a problem.
But if it keeps jumping big levels then why not try with a different USB cable and see?
EDIT: Sorry just now I saw your first post. So it seems something else is wrong. I'm using the Nokia provided charger and USB and have been getting this much since the day I owned it. I think I would have seen 3500 in Oreo and now in Pie it seems to be pushing high current until about 80%. So not sure if it is just hardware only or software only problem on your phone.
Tommylee567 said:
It just fluctuates little that's not a problem.
But if it keeps jumping big levels then why not try with a different USB cable and see?
EDIT: Sorry just now I saw your first post. So it seems something else is wrong. I'm using the Nokia provided charger and USB and have been getting this much since the day I owned it. I think I would have seen 3500 in Oreo and now in Pie it seems to be pushing high current until about 80%. So not sure if it is just hardware only or software only problem on your phone.
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I have tried with different cables and chargers, also i think the problem is not the usb-c port. Maybe the charge system is ****ed up or maybe something in the battery. Sometimes it is more steady but sometimes it start jumping from 1000ma to 3500ma and start going lower again. For example after 60% it charges steady at 1840mah like nothing. So i am not sure what is the real problem. Thank you for sharing!
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I have tried with different cables and chargers, also i think the problem is not the usb-c port. Maybe the charge system is ****ed up or maybe something in the battery. Sometimes it is more steady but sometimes it start jumping from 1000ma to 3500ma and start going lower again. For example after 60% it charges steady at 1840mah like nothing. So i am not sure what is the real problem. Thank you for sharing!
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Thanks for your confirmation. Hope you can get it serviced soon!
Seeing your situation it isn't normal I think you need to fix it asap All the best!
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Thanks for your confirmation. Hope you can get it serviced soon!
Seeing your situation it isn't normal I think you need to fix it asap All the best!
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I can't, i am travelling and will not go back to the country were i bougth it. Anyway i know i am not the only one with this kind of problem, is a common problem it seems... Thank you for your help!
With the announcement of the 1-year extended warranty, I went to go replace my battery today at ubreakifix. When I picked it up, the employee gave me the feeling they didn't actually work on my phone but billed Google for the work. Besides the fact that the things he said made me feel like they didn't actually work on it, I noticed when I picked it up the battery was within a few % of when I dropped it off. I'm trying to see if there's a way to check capacity or anything of that sort I can do to verify that my battery was or was not actually replaced.
I appreciate any help.
Your SOT should noticably longer.
New batteries typically have around a 50% charge on them.
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Your SOT should noticably longer.
New batteries typically have around a 50% charge on them.
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It was around 47% when I picked it up but I dropped it off at 53% which I thought was odd. That's good to know the range is correct for a new battery though. The guy was sketchy and made several comments that made me think he didn't actually touch it. I was hoping to check capacity or something to verify the change but I'll use it tomorrow and see how the battery life compares. If I'm still having battery issues, I just wanted to have concrete proof if I went back. He made a point to say "if it's still acting up then you'll just have to call Google and have the device replaced instead".
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It was around 47% when I picked it up but I dropped it off at 53% which I thought was odd. That's good to know the range is correct for a new battery though. The guy was sketchy and made several comments that made me think he didn't actually touch it. I was hoping to check capacity or something to verify the change but I'll use it tomorrow and see how the battery life compares. If I'm still having battery issues, I just wanted to have concrete proof if I went back. He made a point to say "if it's still acting up then you'll just have to call Google and have the device replaced instead".
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I've seen a lot of bad techs. You could always take it to a 3rd party repair if it turns out the battery is still defective.
Maybe he's just shifty acting in appearance only.
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I've seen a lot of bad techs. You could always take it to a 3rd party repair if it turns out the battery is still defective.
Maybe he's just shifty acting in appearance only.
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Yeah hopefully he was just awkward or something lol. I'll see how it plays out the next few days. Hopefully he replaced it. I plan on buying the Pixel 6 Pro but it would be nice for this to hold off until that comes out.
uoY_redruM said:
With the announcement of the 1-year extended warranty, I went to go replace my battery today at ubreakifix. When I picked it up, the employee gave me the feeling they didn't actually work on my phone but billed Google for the work. Besides the fact that the things he said made me feel like they didn't actually work on it, I noticed when I picked it up the battery was within a few % of when I dropped it off. I'm trying to see if there's a way to check capacity or anything of that sort I can do to verify that my battery was or was not actually replaced.
I appreciate any help.
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You can use AccuBattery to check estimated battery capacity. You'll have to go through a few charge cycles to get an accurate estimation.
Lughnasadh said:
You can use AccuBattery to check estimated battery capacity. You'll have to go through a few charge cycles to get an accurate estimation.
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I might give that a try as well. I heard that just estimates but I guess that's better than not having any idea at all. I'm doing the first full charge since I got it so I'll download AccuBattery and run it the next couple days. Thanks for the suggestion.
uoY_redruM said:
I might give that a try as well. I heard that just estimates but I guess that's better than not having any idea at all. I'm doing the first full charge since I got it so I'll download AccuBattery and run it the next couple days. Thanks for the suggestion.
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It's total battery capacity estimates are not accurate. If you had been using it before it's SOT/% history would be useful.
I use it track my battery usage % vs SOT to spot misbehavior.
It's charging time/% history is also useful for monitoring charging. Erratic fast charging is one of the signs of a battery failure.
uoY_redruM said:
I might give that a try as well. I heard that just estimates but I guess that's better than not having any idea at all. I'm doing the first full charge since I got it so I'll download AccuBattery and run it the next couple days. Thanks for the suggestion.
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It's accurate enough to give you an idea if you got a new battery or not.
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It's accurate enough to give you an idea if you got a new battery or not.
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It can be off quit a bit, 10% is typical.
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It can be off quit a bit, 10% is typical.
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It can also be pretty accurate, in my experience.
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It can also be pretty accurate, in my experience.
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It's history is but the actual mAh measurement isn't.
With no calibrated reference of the voltage to mAh ratio it can only do so much. I believe it's measuring voltage drop and calculating current and mAh from that instead of voltage×current.
Whatever the reason(s) it's absolute battery capacity isn't accurate.
I maybe mistaken but even though some power controller chips have current sensing capabilities, Android doesn't use that readout or make it available to any apks.
An Android shortcoming.
A Developer here maybe could or has shed light on this before.
Edit: some brands/models can apparently:
Measuring Device Power | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
No information on Samsung models that I could easily find.
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It's history is but the actual mAh measurement isn't.
With no calibrated reference of the voltage to mAh ratio it can only do so much. I believe it's measuring voltage drop and calculating current and mAh from that instead of voltage×current.
Whatever the reason(s) it's absolute battery capacity isn't accurate.
I maybe mistaken but even though some power controller chips have current sensing capabilities, Android doesn't use that readout or make it available to any apks.
An Android shortcoming.
A Developer here maybe could or has shed light on this before.
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Like I said, I have found it accurate enough in my experience. New phone is around 100% estimated capacity. Year later, 90% or so. Year later 85% or so. Done this with several phones.
Not here to debate or argue about it. If the OP doesn't want to use it, they don't have to.
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Like I said, I have found it accurate enough in my experience. New phone is around 100% estimated capacity. Year later, 90% or so. Year later 85% or so. Done this with several phones.
Not here to debate or argue about it. If the OP doesn't want to use it, they don't have to.
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That 10% is from the original OEM battery and the replacement. Android it's self lists it at 4100 when it should be 4300 new. Accubattery uses the Android figure unless you change that value.
He'll get a good enough idea if the phone last longer during usage. It should be a noticable improvement... and I hope it is.
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That 10% is from the original OEM battery and the replacement. Android it's self lists it at 4100 when it should be 4300 new. Accubattery uses the Android figure unless you change that value.
He'll get a good enough idea if the phone last longer during usage. It should be a noticable improvement... and I hope it is.
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The battery capacity for this phone is 3,700. Like I said, I'm not here to argue or debate it. You do what you want and the OP will do what they want. So please stop quoting me. Let it go...
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The battery capacity for this phone is 3,700. Like I said, I'm not here to argue or debate it. You do what you want and the OP will do what they want. So please stop quoting me. Let it go...
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Ok
blackhawk said:
He'll get a good enough idea if the phone last longer during usage. It should be a noticable improvement... and I hope it is.
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Just reporting back that it was definitely changed. I charged it before bed and decided not to put it in the charger over night to see what happened. I woke up and it was still at 99%.
It's been off the charger since 11pm yesterday, it's 8pm now and I still have 16%.
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Just reporting back that it was definitely changed. I charged it before bed and decided not to put it in the charger over night to see what happened. I woke up and it was still at 99%.
It's been off the charger since 11pm yesterday, it's 8pm now and I still have 16%.
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Good deal
Guess the tech just has a guilty face
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Just reporting back that it was definitely changed. I charged it before bed and decided not to put it in the charger over night to see what happened. I woke up and it was still at 99%.
It's been off the charger since 11pm yesterday, it's 8pm now and I still have 16%.
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Another way to check is with this online tool https://bathist.ef.lc/ Battery Historian. Make sure to charge your phone to full keep on the charger for a bit longer even after 100% If you can do it with the phone powered off that's even better. Turn the device back on take a bug report and upload it to the site. Then look for the "Coulomb charge" value and mouse over it. It will show you how much the device charged in Mah say for example you see 3650 then you divide it by the battery capacity for our device which is 3700. This means your battery health/capacity would be about 98.6%.
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Another way to check is with this online tool https://bathist.ef.lc/ Battery Historian. Make sure to charge your phone to full keep on the charger for a bit longer even after 100% If you can do it with the phone powered off that's even better. Turn the device back on take a bug report and upload it to the site. Then look for the "Coulomb charge" value and mouse over it. It will show you how much the device charged in Mah say for example you see 3650 then you divide it by the battery capacity for our device which is 3700. This means your battery health/capacity would be about 98.6%.
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Assuming that phone has accurate current sensing hardware and it's readout is available. All Androids report voltage relatively accurately... current not as much so.