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Does S-Off hurt battery life?

I've noticed a significant drop in battery life over the last few months corresponding directly to when I S-off'd my device. I've RUU'd, wiped, reformat, all of the usual stuff to make sure it's not crud apps, sync off, wifi scanning off, google now off, etc etc.
The reason I'm wondering about specifically S-off being the culprit is due to the clause HTC includes at the beginning of phone setup.. 'regardless of your 'contact htc' option, your device is considered a test device so it doesn't matter what you choose, your phone will always talk to HTC' (paraphrased). If the phone is capturing and updating various testing metrics to HTC it's never really sleeping and constantly keeping a data connection alive (even if very little data is sent).
I'm attaching a screenshot of what really 'broke the camels back' (or however it goes..). I'm not sure why wifi is shown as being on, it is most definitely turned off from the drop down panel.
Less than 5H of the phone being off the charger, less than 30M of screen on time.. something is keeping it alive and I have no idea what. This is a fresh install, I wiped the phone (w/ no restore) 3 days earlier. Amazon, Plex, Chromecast and Netflix installed. (amazon downloaded an album i had purchased, but that's it)
I've never had good battery life, but this is now in abysmal territory.

pbassjunk said:
I've noticed a significant drop in battery life over the last few months corresponding directly to when I S-off'd my device. I've RUU'd, wiped, reformat, all of the usual stuff to make sure it's not crud apps, sync off, wifi scanning off, google now off, etc etc.
The reason I'm wondering about specifically S-off being the culprit is due to the clause HTC includes at the beginning of phone setup.. 'regardless of your 'contact htc' option, your device is considered a test device so it doesn't matter what you choose, your phone will always talk to HTC' (paraphrased). If the phone is capturing and updating various testing metrics to HTC it's never really sleeping and constantly keeping a data connection alive (even if very little data is sent).
I'm attaching a screenshot of what really 'broke the camels back' (or however it goes..). I'm not sure why wifi is shown as being on, it is most definitely turned off from the drop down panel.
Less than 5H of the phone being off the charger, less than 30M of screen on time.. something is keeping it alive and I have no idea what. This is a fresh install, I wiped the phone (w/ no restore) 3 days earlier. Amazon, Plex, Chromecast and Netflix installed. (amazon downloaded an album i had purchased, but that's it)
I've never had good battery life, but this is now in abysmal territory.
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S-OFF won't affect battery afaik, because on my One I'm getting the same battery life as I did before I did S-OFF. Try using a wakelock detector to see what's affecting your battery. Also, try flashing a custom kernel (such as Kangaroo Kernel) and see if that improves battery life.

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^^^
Correct me if I'm wrong, but rooting, custom recoveries, S-off, changing pretty much anything that isn't the OS or the kernel will not affect the operation of the device. It will only ALLOW you to change it.
On a side note, you know what scares the living crap out of me? When I'm on a stock ROM and the Dialer asks for superuser. What the hell is up with that?

sauprankul said:
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but rooting, custom recoveries, S-off, changing pretty much anything that isn't the OS or the kernel will not affect the operation of the device. It will only ALLOW you to change it.
On a side note, you know what scares the living crap out of me? When I'm on a stock ROM and the Dialer asks for superuser. What the hell is up with that?
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System apps in a stock ROM usually already have Super User permissions. When you root and install SuperSU all apps must ask for super user permissions again. There's a check box in the settings to auto allow them. Previously I don't think regular SuperUser made system apps get permission again.

spacious said:
System apps in a stock ROM usually already have Super User permissions. When you root and install SuperSU all apps must ask for super user permissions again. There's a check box in the settings to auto allow them. Previously I don't think regular SuperUser made system apps get permission again.
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Yeah I should have googled it before posting lol . Thanks

I S-Off'd on 1.55 Modified and have not seen any change in battery life, it should not be depended on S-Off but rather the Rom and Configuration you are using.

After upgrading to Tizen......

Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..

I am about to do this....
StephenLeo said:
Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
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I unraveled my Rooted/Custom Recovery/null ROM'd Galaxy Gear today and went back to stock in preparation for this update. I was wondering how it is and have been looking for some related reviews, etc.
Good to know a little bit more about this before I take the leap.
Thanks.:good:

flashred said:
I unraveled my Rooted/Custom Recovery/null ROM'd Galaxy Gear today and went back to stock in preparation for this update. I was wondering how it is and have been looking for some related reviews, etc.
Good to know a little bit more about this before I take the leap.
Thanks.:good:
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So you need to revert to stock in order to do the update to Tizen? I still haven't decided yet. I need to read up what Tizen can or cannot do compared to Gear stock and then Null ROM; and working non Samsung phones as well.

I havent played with it as android OS , bought it and went direct to update to tizen , its watch not phone , it so tiny cant do alot , and Samsung Market got most of things i want.If its works alone without phone , you may need to do some tricks and roots for it , but phone always be with ya , play with phone and keep watch stock
didnt find anythin interesting to go android that beats Tizen for That gear

fortissimo said:
So you need to revert to stock in order to do the update to Tizen? I still haven't decided yet. I need to read up what Tizen can or cannot do compared to Gear stock and then Null ROM; and working non Samsung phones as well.
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No you don't, upgrading to tizen will erase EVERYTHING as it will also change the bootloader of the watch You'll have to update from Odin while entering the watch in download mode, so again NO you don't need to revert
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mjrshark said:
I havent played with it as android OS , bought it and went direct to update to tizen , its watch not phone , it so tiny cant do alot , and Samsung Market got most of things i want.If its works alone without phone , you may need to do some tricks and roots for it , but phone always be with ya , play with phone and keep watch stock
didnt find anythin interesting to go android that beats Tizen for That gear
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To be frank, I have only one thing that I really miss and which is kind of a dealbreaker for me is the fact that you can't record more than 15sec in 720p, at least on android you could do 1min, and SVR was really convenient to record without others knowing it lol

Tizen = 0 app, Android = 500000000 apps. I love null rom! Thanks @fOmey
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I'm holding out for Android wear port and have ability to take a phone call. IMO not having this feature is its biggest failure. Yes I could tizen but in the end the wear app store will be where the apps are.
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gingerdude said:
I'm holding out for Android wear port and have ability to take a phone call. IMO not having this feature is its biggest failure. Yes I could tizen but in the end the wear app store will be where the apps are.
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In the mean time check out the app Sprocket on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-gear/themes-apps/app-sprocket-sms-mms-file-transfer-t2804294 . The Dev has been updating it and just dropped an update the other day, I also have an Alpha of the next release which should be any day which fixed some FC issues for me. Anyhow he has the notifications from the device showing up on the Gear and most of them are interactable like music apps and my remote app. Basically if it has functions and stay on your phone notification, then you can control them via Sprocket. Also on the next release he has the Whitelist so you can turn off unwanted notifications. Right now I have Google Now notifications on the gear. Plus you can transfer files and install any apps from your phone on the gear. And a full sms/mms function on the watch, but it's not very easy to type on the gear unless you have google now working offline or you tether to your phone.
Chris

Last couple of days Gear 1 w/Tizen won't shut off - restarts everytime - have reset, uninstalled/reinstalled everything, even reflashed firmware - any ideas? Thanks in advance

StephenLeo said:
Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
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I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.

Avignon said:
I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
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I would probably check out whether you have a faulty battery, the general consensis is battery life is better on tizen. My gear rarely saw more than a day of battery life on the stock kernel with android, but with tizen I frequently only use 30% per day.

Avignon said:
I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
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I've also just moved back to Tizen and was getting not so good battery life. I followed someone's advice to reset the gear in recovery and it actually worked perfect. It's 200% better after doing that. I also reset in Tizen, then booted to recovery and it automatically resets. I did the recovery reset 2x though just to be sure. Anyhow good luck. And if you haven't done the reset in recovery please try that.
Chris

noellenchris said:
I've also just moved back to Tizen and was getting not so good battery life. I followed someone's advice to reset the gear in recovery and it actually worked perfect. It's 200% better after doing that. I also reset in Tizen, then booted to recovery and it automatically resets. I did the recovery reset 2x though just to be sure. Anyhow good luck. And if you haven't done the reset in recovery please try that.
Chris
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yes - I've done the reinstall GM and reset in recovery several times.
My battery life is worse than the original firmware from last year.
I'm trying to figure out how to get it back to where it was last week with the previous GM and Android.

I also face some problems with battery life. But the problem appears not always. Sometimes it use 30% per day, but sometimes it discharges in couple our hours. Seems like some of the processes drains battery. Any ideas what?

hurdleman said:
I also face some problems with battery life. But the problem appears not always. Sometimes it use 30% per day, but sometimes it discharges in couple our hours. Seems like some of the processes drains battery. Any ideas what?
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Anything that may be using the camera or motion to wake would drain battery. Also I do frequently double tap and hold with 2 fingers to bring up the task manager and close all running apps just to be sure.
Chris

Good day. I have Gear 2 and is on Tizen and my battery life on the stock standard and standard watchfaces is 1.5 to 2 day. I have recently changed the watch face with a nice custom built one and then this change drained the battery within one day. Thus my conclusion, the fancier the stuff you load the more operating power it use and then it drains the battery. Also I had the Gear1 on Android. Android in my opinion use more battery life by meas of operating power.

Marshmallow Upgrade: Is It Worth It?

Hello everyone,
I'll make this short. Is it worth upgrading from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1? If so, should I do a Clean Install or Update OTA? I've been pondering the last few days, wondering if my T-Mobile S6 should update or not. I've already tripped KNOX, so I'm kinda reckless, but I don't want a 600$ brick.
(And if I do update, are there any rooting options?)
Thanks In advance,
- Matt :good:

Battery life for me went from plugging it in once every day and a half to having to plug it in daily and sometimes twice daily.
Streaming content pauses and stops constantly due to them using new schemes for lowering power consumption. These schemes don't work and now I cannot stream radio, music, videos or anything else unless I remove all battery helper schemes in the settings for Android. Totally blows!
The screen asking you if you want to set an app to default or use it just once is now gone. In its place it just automatically assigns any app used once as the default app. Totally blows and is a Samsung mod to Android that basically is crap. Which idiot thought it was a good idea to do this? Which committee also decided to include it in the update?
Other than that you will also have lots of annoying crap. Samsung bloatware apps are also installed and they constantly want to help you do something. But you don't want their crap.
Upgrade at your own peril.

V_RocKs said:
Battery life for me went from plugging it in once every day and a half to having to plug it in daily and sometimes twice daily.
Streaming content pauses and stops constantly due to them using new schemes for lowering power consumption. These schemes don't work and now I cannot stream radio, music, videos or anything else unless I remove all battery helper schemes in the settings for Android. Totally blows!
The screen asking you if you want to set an app to default or use it just once is now gone. In its place it just automatically assigns any app used once as the default app. Totally blows and is a Samsung mod to Android that basically is crap. Which idiot thought it was a good idea to do this? Which committee also decided to include it in the update?
Other than that you will also have lots of annoying crap. Samsung bloatware apps are also installed and they constantly want to help you do something. But you don't want their crap.
Upgrade at your own peril.
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Damn dude, 6.0.1 sounds like it's a nightmare for you. Did you OTA Update or flash it via Odin? If you updated OTA, then I'm swerving away from OTA.

Updated OTA

V_RocKs said:
Updated OTA
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Alright, that might be the source of your problems. Try downloading the update file to your PC, then install it via Odin. Make sure you do a clean install. From what I've heard, people who do that have very little problems. There's a guide around here, but I can't seem to find it...

The issues I am having are OS and Samsung mods related.

[Discussion] Micro lags in OOS 4.0.2

Hi All,
To everyone who is on nougat oos now with stock and stock based kernels, do you experience micro lags while playing music and videos? Like just a small pause, maybe else than a second. I use power amp and YouTube. This also happens when playing video on quick pic, or typing. And its becoming annoying now since I can notice it everytime I play a song or video. Could anyone else confirm?

Yes. I use blackplayer ex and my songs skip sometimes when im listening to music on my bose soundlink 2 via Bluetooth.
I'm on 4.0.2 as well.

abhibnl said:
Hi All,
To everyone who is on nougat oos now with stock and stock based kernels, do you experience micro lags while playing music and videos? Like just a small pause, maybe else than a second. I use power amp and YouTube. This also happens when playing video on quick pic, or typing. And its becoming annoying now since I can notice it everytime I play a song or video. Could anyone else confirm?
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Zero issues here. Running 4.0.2

This happens to me only when I am using Saavn app with screen off. The song just stutters once and then everything is normal. I had no issues with YouTube though or even when typing. Did you do a clean flash of OOS?

IVBlindfireVI said:
Yes. I use blackplayer ex and my songs skip sometimes when im listening to music on my bose soundlink 2 via Bluetooth.
I'm on 4.0.2 as well.
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It happens to me even when I am totally using wired headphones.

daninantro said:
This happens to me only when I am using Saavn app with screen off. The song just stutters once and then everything is normal. I had no issues with YouTube though or even when typing. Did you do a clean flash of OOS?
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Yes, it was a clean flash. But I can't blame the apps because they are popular and no one else reported this. Maybe only I'm facing the issue?

jim262 said:
Zero issues here. Running 4.0.2
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Thanks for responding. I need to make a clean flash again and then test. But it's highly unlikely that a clean flash "again" will solve this.

abhibnl said:
Thanks for responding. I need to make a clean flash again and then test. But it's highly unlikely that a clean flash "again" will solve this.
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Are you using any kernels and related mods? May happen because of it also..

daninantro said:
Are you using any kernels and related mods? May happen because of it also..
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It happened on stock kernel first. I flashed a custom kernel but this also persists with the custom kernel. Seems like something in rom or stock kernel sources.

abhibnl said:
Thanks for responding. I need to make a clean flash again and then test. But it's highly unlikely that a clean flash "again" will solve this.
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Not necessarily true. I always wipe everything on my internal storage and never experience all the problems everyone else claims to have. The roms I have experienced is fast and smooth. Remember, when a ROM is developed, it is not created on a device with old data from previous roms and third party apps. If you want the ROM to do what it is supposed to do, one should try to emulate their environment since there is absolutely zero way for them to emulate yours.
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daninantro said:
This happens to me only when I am using Saavn app with screen off. The song just stutters once and then everything is normal. I had no issues with YouTube though or even when typing. Did you do a clean flash of OOS?
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Try doing an absolutely clean install, wipe everything on internal storage and restore old data one app at a time until you locate your offending app or data. The ROM is quite stable and smooth. I have been involved with IT for over 30 years and whenever a new server was built or upgraded, a backup was done, followed by a clean install in order to eliminate as many issues as possible. I am currently on a stock ROM, 4.0.2, rooted with substratum with a memory hog like Facebook and it's messenger app, as well as others, and I still scored 157,630 on my OP3.

jim262 said:
Not necessarily true. I always wipe everything on my internal storage and never experience all the problems everyone else claims to have. The roms I have experienced is fast and smooth. Remember, when a ROM is developed, it is not created on a device with old data from previous roms and third party apps. If you want the ROM to do what it is supposed to do, one should try to emulate their environment since there is absolutely zero way for them to emulate yours.
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Try doing an absolutely clean install, wipe everything on internal storage and restore old data one app at a time until you locate your offending app or data. The ROM is quite stable and smooth. I have been involved with IT for over 30 years and whenever a new server was built or upgraded, a backup was done, followed by a clean install in order to eliminate as many issues as possible. I am currently on a stock ROM, 4.0.2, rooted with substratum with a memory hog like Facebook and it's messenger app, as well as others, and I still scored 157,630 on my OP3.
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Wiping internal storage is not an option for me, i don't simply have the time to do that honestly. But i'l definitely do a clean flash this weekend. The apps are the same that i'm using from MM days as i rarely use a new app, but the issue is definitely new. I will report back after performing a clean flash.

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abhibnl said:
Wiping internal storage is not an option for me, i don't simply have the time to do that honestly. But i'l definitely do a clean flash this weekend. The apps are the same that i'm using from MM days as i rarely use a new app, but the issue is definitely new. I will report back after performing a clean flash.
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Then it isn't truly a clean install. Do a complete Nandroid backup. Why can't you do a backup? Do you have a Google account? All your apps and pictures are saved to their cloud and if you do a manual backup, all your data, is saved and can be restored as well.

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8 Then it isn't truly a clean install. Do a complete Nandroid backup. Why can't you do a backup? Do you have a Google account? All your apps and pictures are saved to their cloud and if you do a manual backup, all your data, is saved and can be restored as well.
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I understand your point man but i don't have the patience and time to copy almost 40GB of data from phone to computer and then back from computer to phone. That's how my lifestyle is. This is the reason i don't play with custom ROMs or kernels that much.

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I understand your point man but i don't have the patience and time to copy almost 40GB of data from phone to computer and then back from computer to phone. That's how my lifestyle is. This is the reason i don't play with custom ROMs or kernels that much.
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Then perhaps the issue is not a OnePlus software/hardware issue, but rather a user issue. Something to consider.

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Then perhaps the issue is not a OnePlus software/hardware issue, but rather a user issue. Something to consider.
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FYI i have clean flashed again and i am setting up my phone as a new one. (haven't wiped internal storage ofcourse). Hope it will improve things.

abhibnl said:
FYI i have clean flashed again and i am setting up my phone as a new one. (haven't wiped internal storage ofcourse). Hope it will improve things.
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Do report back.. If needed disable aggressive doze from battery settings. :fingers-crossed:

this is Nougat OS issues not just OOS 4
abhibnl said:
Hi All,
To everyone who is on nougat oos now with stock and stock based kernels, do you experience micro lags while playing music and videos? Like just a small pause, maybe else than a second. I use power amp and YouTube. This also happens when playing video on quick pic, or typing. And its becoming annoying now since I can notice it everytime I play a song or video. Could anyone else confirm?
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Some of my friends who upgraded to Android 7 Nougat have been experiencing Lags, app crashes, etc including op3 and other phones like nexus etc. this issue is with Nougat itself oos 4x is build on Nougat so, obviously oos 4 will have these issues.

abhibnl said:
It happens to me even when I am totally using wired headphones.
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I have a weired issue. My phone wouldn't let me use jio for calls if I turn off the data.
It should still allow me to make calls however moment I turn off data for jio, it loses network and shows no service

Cyberman5145 said:
I have a weired issue. My phone wouldn't let me use jio for calls if I turn off the data.
It should still allow me to make calls however moment I turn off data for jio, it loses network and shows no service
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Lel! No issues for me. Calls working fine on jio.

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Lel! No issues for me. Calls working fine on jio.
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Have u tried making calls when data for Jio is turned off and another sim's data service is kept on?

Question What's is the best firmware for battery ?

Hi i have a question my battery is very bad 3 4 hours normal usage and I must go to charger my oxygen firmware is C.30 its my last oneplus phone :/

So long as it's a clean install, they should be all very similar... I've always been able to go past a day / 2 days depending on my usage.
Your apps will determine how long it'll last, if you're constantly on social media, playing games and hammering the battery , then it really doesn't matter..
I'm still on android 12 and I get about 8-10 hours SOT over about 40 hours..

I try make a clean install for games i have steam deck my usage is normal Messenger Facebook Instagram sometimes YouTube tiktok but 3 4 hours and my battery have 20% battery. What's is the best app for backup all apps ?

Bartx96 said:
I try make a clean install for games i have steam deck my usage is normal Messenger Facebook Instagram sometimes YouTube tiktok but 3 4 hours and my battery have 20% battery. What's is the best app for backup all apps ?
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If you're rooted then swift back up... Bare in mind that all those apps you just mentioned are very heavy... So yes your battery will always be poor..
I made a comprehensive list of things to do to get the best from your battery.. it's in the battery life thread, have a search for it..

Thanks

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If you're rooted then swift back up... Bare in mind that all those apps you just mentioned are very heavy... So yes your battery will always be poor..
I made a comprehensive list of things to do to get the best from your battery.. it's in the battery life thread, have a search for it..
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I hava a question how to delete current os and install fresh oxygen in twrp is option wipe system but in current phone I don't have twrp

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I hava a question how to delete current os and install fresh oxygen in twrp is option wipe system but in current phone I don't have twrp
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You really don't need twrp... You could go a full back up with twrp but it's not needed. Just factory wipe.. back up first

dladz said:
So long as it's a clean install, they should be all very similar... I've always been able to go past a day / 2 days depending on my usage.
Your apps will determine how long it'll last, if you're constantly on social media, playing games and hammering the battery , then it really doesn't matter..
I'm still on android 12 and I get about 8-10 hours SOT over about 40 hours..
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Interesting. I noticed my battery life took a nosedive after I let it update to 13. Some folks told me its just coincidence but I think 12 was better on battery.
I am not rooted, is there any way to back up apps so I don't have to find and login to them all again without root?
I have things like smart home applications to control outlets, my DJI mavic app, control for an LED sign, my air conditioner, etc that I'll never remember all the logins to if I format right now.
I know from experience that I'll forget what they even are until I need to use it and then spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember not only what the app was, but also what email I used as a recovery for lost my password.
I'd give a fresh installation a try if I weren't afraid of it being a multi day ordeal to put everything back.

dishe2 said:
Interesting. I noticed my battery life took a nosedive after I let it update to 13. Some folks told me its just coincidence but I think 12 was better on battery.
I am not rooted, is there any way to back up apps so I don't have to find and login to them all again without root?
I have things like smart home applications to control outlets, my DJI mavic app, control for an LED sign, my air conditioner, etc that I'll never remember all the logins to if I format right now.
I know from experience that I'll forget what they even are until I need to use it and then spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember not only what the app was, but also what email I used as a recovery for lost my password.
I'd give a fresh installation a try if I weren't afraid of it being a multi day ordeal to put everything back.
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If you're not rooted then no I don't think you can back up your apps in their current state like you would with let's say swift or titanium, but you can restore them using Google.
I think you need to take a look at your situation, it's always a faff when you full wipe.
Personally I would always root. I use two banks which are just fine with root.. I need root for my mods and for a few other apps I use that require it, it's not a battery issue, In fact quite the opposite as I can tweak my device using a kernel manager whilst a non root user won't be able to, not to mention adaway and swift backup.
I do a few things to make sure everything works..
1. Allow Google/chrome to remember my passwords for all sites, if I wasn't going to do this then I'd make an offline list of them and then go from there or even use 1password, that way you only have to remember 1 whilst it'll last every single site for you.
2. As im rooted I use the mod I posted to allow free back up to Google photos so I don't have to worry about media.
Same goes with my contacts.
3. Finally copy out critical files that I'd otherwise miss, I do this locally via PC, like the swift back up folder after the main back up, then others like emulators and their folders as they contain settings to my custom setup, my nova custom desktop back up, my downloads folder or categorise the contents into their own folders, anything else I can think of that I'll need (you get used to your routine, most of the time it's simply a case of adding the additional files that are different from your last back up, the more you do it the quicker it gets)
4. Get my boot images ready (patched and stock) a copy of the full firmwares I'm going to plus what I'm on and a note of both unless I can remember.
Done.
PS: reason I'm suggesting looking into it is you could be forced into it by something as simple as an error or device fault, so best to get your ducks in a row..
Overall I think I've seen better battery life from 12 if I'm being honest, but again it's down to the apps you use, what used to be quite light on android 12 may not be as friendly on 13 and vice versa, it's extremely difficult to get a bearing between devices as no two are the same, plus the apps each person has is so different.
If you really wanted to test then you'd need to remain as the device was then run tests on solitary apps and see what was lost over a period of time.
Also bare in mind that the device will begin to remember your habits over time too which helps write a lot with battery on both firmwares but it does take time to happen, a week I would give it.

Swift backup is the best backup app for rooted phones. You can back up everything completely along with its settings.